Why the government? I think what he really meant to say is we could use that $23 million to fund public works projects. I could imagine what $23 million could do for some struggling Free software projects that might really help people, such as some of the bio-punks bio-hacker scene, help them turn into non-profit proffesional units doing good in medicine, and bio-engineering, taking tech from the hands of corporate and putting it back in the hands of the people, saving lives by making lifesaving devices and medicine affordable.
well, for one you don't act like a utility. If you did, I'd hope someone would fucking regulate you.
As far as the government pushing around the internet, that ship has come and past. They didn't need regulation to install the "light refraction" monitoring system. They send court orders and takedown notices as they please. They show up with men in suits, with badges and guns as they please. They hand out gag orders as they please.
When it comes to limiting the ability to communicate, and over what subjects the government has already limited both you, and the utilities.
Common carrier protects the people from being regulated by the utility. But I guess we don't have freedoms if its a private company doing the impinging.
I love the constitutional argument. The concept of this documenting protecing people's rights is absurd. It doesn't work that way. The first amendment has been trash since the alien and sedition act of 1796.
If you need more examples of how futile document worship is, you should look up the old constitution of the USSR. You'll get a real laugh. In it are things like guaruntees of freedom of speech, right ot assemble, and lots of freedomy feel good stuff. I mean they had a constitution protecting their rights. What could possibly go wrong.
Lets be frank here. The government isn't "taking over" the ISP business, and it wouldn't be any diffrent than now. ISPs comply with all requests by the government, co-operated with the government for all intents and purposes. The government mandating ISPs be common carrier is a lot diffrent than the government restricting content on the internet, or performing mass surviallence of the same.
That said, they didn't need nationalization of the internet to do the latter. They just walked into datacenters with suits and badges(presumably guns, and the threat of detention) and said "we are doing XYZ".
Making the ISP common carriers does not grant government control over content of the internet, or technical operations of such. All it does is prevent edge networks from doing exactly what your affraid the government will do. Don't give it 10 years, we are being censored today. the NSA has been wiretapping the entire country since at least 2005, and in reality, using carnivore, raptor, and before that echelon, much longer.
Which leads me to the question for you: Why do you get so upset when the government restricts you, but keep silent when comcast does it? Either way its the same net effect for you. Why do you only get mad when our current government does it?
but this is capitalism, even the liberals believe that "investing/spending money" are the people doing the work, and everyone else is just there. Not even the so called left believes work is work.
or mabey you can consult outside sources, before "ask a veteran what he learned in bootcamp", which is a basic history lesson for someone with an IQ of 85, which is exactly what basic military and just about all non SF infantry courses are.
military weapons are designed to be praticle, and no bayonets, ever were serrated, which were obsolete before the 1949 first geneva conventions you speak.
Before then, no military issued serrated bayonets for their lethality, only the mistaken impression they could be used as cutting tools, which they could not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet
>One of these multipurpose designs was the 'sawback' bayonet, which incorporated saw teeth on the spine of the blade.[6] The sawback bayonet was intended for use as a general-purpose utility tool as well as a weapon; the teeth were meant to facilitate the cutting of wood for various defensive works such as barbed-wire posts, as well as for butchering livestock.[1][7][8][9] It was initially adopted by the German states in 1865; until the middle of WWI approximately 5% of every bayonet style was complemented with a sawback version, countries such as Belgium in 1868, Great Britain in 1869 and Switzerland in 1878; (the latter introduced their last model in 1914).[1][7][8][9][10] The original sawback bayonets were typically of the heavy sword-type, they were issued to engineers, with to some extent the bayonet aspect being secondary to the "tool" aspect. Later German sawbacks were more of a rank indicator than a functional saw. The sawback proved relatively ineffective as a cutting tool, and was soon outmoded by improvements in military logistics and transportation; most nations dropped the sawback feature by 1900.[
welp, I didn't expect you to actually do your homework, that some fucking convention has nothing to do with it. serrated blades are not effective weapons. Sorry.
>From a military perspective, this is not true. You don't want to blind someone for 24 hours and have them back on the battlefield (as one example of obviously many).
unless you want to capture someone alive, intact, with no visable damage. The military faces many scenarios where it wants to use force and kill someone, such as driving civilians out of a battlefield, and capturing enemy forces.
1. Jews are a people, Israel is a state. The Israeli state murdered
2. Stop pretending America was any diffrent before or after your imaginary jew take over. The problem is a system, not a group of people, and especially not a race.
no, its because the original 5.56 55 grain round tumbled, causing it to do more damage, while having less of a kick, so it would be feasible to fire in automatic mode with reasonable recoil, and higher mag capacities
what happened with the M16 is one giant fiasco after another, and we got left with the 65 grain round which does nothing well. There is no good reason for it, and it sucks, and no one likes it, and it has terrible stopping power.
> This is why it's perfectly fine to stab someone with a smooth bayonet but you can not stab someone with a serrated bayonet, even though death from serrated bayonet was more likely.
then we get to this nonsense. a serrated edge, it gets stuck in its victim, and you can't pull it out. All bayonets and all knifes designed for stabbing are smooth for this reason.
Serrated edges on military weapons are general near the base and are meant for cutting rope and vegitation.
due proccess keeps innocent men from getting framed as murderers. Its an imperative for law enforcement to act proffesionally, to the end it keeps then honest, and makes them engage in fact based investigations, not willy nilly witch hunts.
did these people actually touch kids, or did they just get caught with verboten images. Because there is a pretty big diffrence.
It seems to me "child porn" is always brought up when the government is caught snooping online where they shouldn't be. I think there is no way of knowing what other stuff he was *really* looking for, when they drag up a handful of kiddie porn cases to justify their abuses.
Thats the war on drugs in a nutshell, its a wanton power grab, where everyone has become a suspect, and all rights are at the whim of the government, and all they need to do is find a few really dirty scumbags to haul in front of the public to justify their continued operations.
But you see, the larger problem isn't drugs or pedophiles, its well placed cynacism of the government. What you have with them is an British India Python problem, where the enforcers made a business out of enforcement, and see a gain at breeding problems to solve for fun and profit.
bullshit. He's been randomly searching intertubes, in a gross violation of civil liberties, and just so happened to be caught when he brought criminal charges.
I don't like pedophiles either, but when you commit extra-legal investigations, its rarely what makes headlines are you sole motivation.
Don't tell me you actually beileve either internet censorship or internet surviallence is actually in place to stop pedophiles.
So let me get this straight, not only does the oil industry run on razor thin margins that they need subsidizing(its only wrong when solar does it), they need solar energy to help them get out their precious oil, and they are now suddenly worried about enviromental impact?
I remember this. It was a big hassle. Its the reason most people stick with windows, and its the reason that most FreeDesktop compliant UNIX desktops work just like Windows, down to the tabstops, decoration buttons, and until recently, start menu.
People bitch when it doesn't work exactly like it used to work. If they were in the mood to try something completely new, they would most likely ditch windows in the first place.
MSNBC is hardly "extreme left wing", that would imply socialism of some variety, of which they are not. Not even mild ones.
MSNBC tells zingers that support the democratic party. That is all. CNN doesn't tell zingers but they are still extremely biased on how they tell stories.
>IMHO, i think Stallman gets tripped up with execution...which is guided by those uber-specific obtuse definitions he uses for concepts like what 'free and open source' mean
not really. He's addressing the "open source" movement, which came afterwards as an attempt to confuse the issue. He's not being obtuse, he's being co-opted, and addressing the very real social politics. Say what you will. There really is a mass slander campaign against him. Its not an unreasonable point.
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Why the government? I think what he really meant to say is we could use that $23 million to fund public works projects. I could imagine what $23 million could do for some struggling Free software projects that might really help people, such as some of the bio-punks bio-hacker scene, help them turn into non-profit proffesional units doing good in medicine, and bio-engineering, taking tech from the hands of corporate and putting it back in the hands of the people, saving lives by making lifesaving devices and medicine affordable.
cable is a closed service.
internet providers are a common carrier.
if you signed a contract with them, not really. They have to prove you violated the terms of the contract. Something that can be settled in court.
well, for one you don't act like a utility. If you did, I'd hope someone would fucking regulate you.
As far as the government pushing around the internet, that ship has come and past. They didn't need regulation to install the "light refraction" monitoring system. They send court orders and takedown notices as they please. They show up with men in suits, with badges and guns as they please. They hand out gag orders as they please.
When it comes to limiting the ability to communicate, and over what subjects the government has already limited both you, and the utilities.
Common carrier protects the people from being regulated by the utility. But I guess we don't have freedoms if its a private company doing the impinging.
I love the constitutional argument. The concept of this documenting protecing people's rights is absurd. It doesn't work that way. The first amendment has been trash since the alien and sedition act of 1796.
If you need more examples of how futile document worship is, you should look up the old constitution of the USSR. You'll get a real laugh. In it are things like guaruntees of freedom of speech, right ot assemble, and lots of freedomy feel good stuff. I mean they had a constitution protecting their rights. What could possibly go wrong.
Lets be frank here. The government isn't "taking over" the ISP business, and it wouldn't be any diffrent than now. ISPs comply with all requests by the government, co-operated with the government for all intents and purposes. The government mandating ISPs be common carrier is a lot diffrent than the government restricting content on the internet, or performing mass surviallence of the same.
That said, they didn't need nationalization of the internet to do the latter. They just walked into datacenters with suits and badges(presumably guns, and the threat of detention) and said "we are doing XYZ".
Making the ISP common carriers does not grant government control over content of the internet, or technical operations of such. All it does is prevent edge networks from doing exactly what your affraid the government will do. Don't give it 10 years, we are being censored today. the NSA has been wiretapping the entire country since at least 2005, and in reality, using carnivore, raptor, and before that echelon, much longer.
Which leads me to the question for you: Why do you get so upset when the government restricts you, but keep silent when comcast does it? Either way its the same net effect for you. Why do you only get mad when our current government does it?
thats why they should be regulated as a utility or common carrier.
but this is capitalism, even the liberals believe that "investing/spending money" are the people doing the work, and everyone else is just there. Not even the so called left believes work is work.
only if their enemies are the ones doing the violating of conventions or treaties, otherwise
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or mabey you can consult outside sources, before "ask a veteran what he learned in bootcamp", which is a basic history lesson for someone with an IQ of 85, which is exactly what basic military and just about all non SF infantry courses are.
military weapons are designed to be praticle, and no bayonets, ever were serrated, which were obsolete before the 1949 first geneva conventions you speak.
Before then, no military issued serrated bayonets for their lethality, only the mistaken impression they could be used as cutting tools, which they could not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet
>One of these multipurpose designs was the 'sawback' bayonet, which incorporated saw teeth on the spine of the blade.[6] The sawback bayonet was intended for use as a general-purpose utility tool as well as a weapon; the teeth were meant to facilitate the cutting of wood for various defensive works such as barbed-wire posts, as well as for butchering livestock.[1][7][8][9] It was initially adopted by the German states in 1865; until the middle of WWI approximately 5% of every bayonet style was complemented with a sawback version, countries such as Belgium in 1868, Great Britain in 1869 and Switzerland in 1878; (the latter introduced their last model in 1914).[1][7][8][9][10] The original sawback bayonets were typically of the heavy sword-type, they were issued to engineers, with to some extent the bayonet aspect being secondary to the "tool" aspect. Later German sawbacks were more of a rank indicator than a functional saw. The sawback proved relatively ineffective as a cutting tool, and was soon outmoded by improvements in military logistics and transportation; most nations dropped the sawback feature by 1900.[
welp, I didn't expect you to actually do your homework, that some fucking convention has nothing to do with it. serrated blades are not effective weapons. Sorry.
>From a military perspective, this is not true. You don't want to blind someone for 24 hours and have them back on the battlefield (as one example of obviously many).
unless you want to capture someone alive, intact, with no visable damage. The military faces many scenarios where it wants to use force and kill someone, such as driving civilians out of a battlefield, and capturing enemy forces.
Yes, they occationally like to capture people.
1. Jews are a people, Israel is a state. The Israeli state murdered
2. Stop pretending America was any diffrent before or after your imaginary jew take over. The problem is a system, not a group of people, and especially not a race.
I'm guessing logic isn't strong with you.
no, its because the original 5.56 55 grain round tumbled, causing it to do more damage, while having less of a kick, so it would be feasible to fire in automatic mode with reasonable recoil, and higher mag capacities
what happened with the M16 is one giant fiasco after another, and we got left with the 65 grain round which does nothing well. There is no good reason for it, and it sucks, and no one likes it, and it has terrible stopping power.
> This is why it's perfectly fine to stab someone with a smooth bayonet but you can not stab someone with a serrated bayonet, even though death from serrated bayonet was more likely.
then we get to this nonsense. a serrated edge, it gets stuck in its victim, and you can't pull it out. All bayonets and all knifes designed for stabbing are smooth for this reason.
Serrated edges on military weapons are general near the base and are meant for cutting rope and vegitation.
> Due process lets murderers run the streets
due proccess keeps innocent men from getting framed as murderers. Its an imperative for law enforcement to act proffesionally, to the end it keeps then honest, and makes them engage in fact based investigations, not willy nilly witch hunts.
did these people actually touch kids, or did they just get caught with verboten images. Because there is a pretty big diffrence.
It seems to me "child porn" is always brought up when the government is caught snooping online where they shouldn't be. I think there is no way of knowing what other stuff he was *really* looking for, when they drag up a handful of kiddie porn cases to justify their abuses.
Thats the war on drugs in a nutshell, its a wanton power grab, where everyone has become a suspect, and all rights are at the whim of the government, and all they need to do is find a few really dirty scumbags to haul in front of the public to justify their continued operations.
But you see, the larger problem isn't drugs or pedophiles, its well placed cynacism of the government. What you have with them is an British India Python problem, where the enforcers made a business out of enforcement, and see a gain at breeding problems to solve for fun and profit.
>pursuit of actual crimes.
bullshit. He's been randomly searching intertubes, in a gross violation of civil liberties, and just so happened to be caught when he brought criminal charges.
I don't like pedophiles either, but when you commit extra-legal investigations, its rarely what makes headlines are you sole motivation.
Don't tell me you actually beileve either internet censorship or internet surviallence is actually in place to stop pedophiles.
So let me get this straight, not only does the oil industry run on razor thin margins that they need subsidizing(its only wrong when solar does it), they need solar energy to help them get out their precious oil, and they are now suddenly worried about enviromental impact?
my sides, my sides.
I remember this. It was a big hassle. Its the reason most people stick with windows, and its the reason that most FreeDesktop compliant UNIX desktops work just like Windows, down to the tabstops, decoration buttons, and until recently, start menu.
People bitch when it doesn't work exactly like it used to work. If they were in the mood to try something completely new, they would most likely ditch windows in the first place.
MSNBC is hardly "extreme left wing", that would imply socialism of some variety, of which they are not. Not even mild ones.
MSNBC tells zingers that support the democratic party. That is all. CNN doesn't tell zingers but they are still extremely biased on how they tell stories.
>IMHO, i think Stallman gets tripped up with execution...which is guided by those uber-specific obtuse definitions he uses for concepts like what 'free and open source' mean
not really. He's addressing the "open source" movement, which came afterwards as an attempt to confuse the issue. He's not being obtuse, he's being co-opted, and addressing the very real social politics. Say what you will. There really is a mass slander campaign against him. Its not an unreasonable point.
fetus are not children
abortion is not murder
your the idiot.
false question. pro-life radicals aren't in touch with reality.
I read the first line, and then I read the rest of if, than I was like 'wat'
>That is why snowboarders are the worst people
sounds like another country I know of, and live in currenty.
It starts with a U, and ends with a nited States of America.
Wait, lets say the entire concept of a constitution as this iron clad protection of rights is a silly concept because the world doesn't work that way.