'We' as in the few people that are wasting their times talking to you in this thread, all people considerably more informed about the case than you and the jurors. And fear not, the decision certainly won't be reached by us, but it will be reached when this trial is voided, which will happen very soon if the jurors keep giving interviews about how clever they were in ignoring several of their instructions and skipping the boring stuff. The truth is things happen regardless of your wishes, Mr. little and irrelevant troll. Now be a good pet and go lick your iPad.
There are Indians that can afford Ferraris, my dear troll. Because most of them can't afford 2K cars doesn't mean none can. And "just a few" Indians is still a hell lot of people as I showed. Now be a nice troll and go back to your cave.
Well said! And I do believe IP laws will be ignored more and more until copyright is finally broken. Regardless of any amount of money you put at it there is no way to force millions of people to obey unjust laws unless you have a gun pointed to each of their heads.
If your garbage can kept filling faster each day it would be smart on your part to stop emptying it and trying to figure other ways to get rid of your garbage, because even if you do not at some point your efforts will make very little difference.
You do have the right to share sell or destroy it and by the current laws of some countries you also have the right of monopoly over it. Fortunately this right is each day more difficult to be enforced because most people in our World disagree with your idea that thoughts and ideas can be owned and neither you nor any government can't really force them to do what you want in this matter.
Laws that are unenforceable are moot. Copyright laws are unenforceable in the current world. So lets stop wasting our efforts trying to preserve outdated business models that can't be possibly preserved.
One of the elements is a square grid of icons with a dock. Which is a design currently used in most Android devices. It is a very silly patent because there is plenty of prior art, which was.blatantly ignored in the judgement, and is ridiculously obvious, but still it is there,
You do not have a point. Your math makes exactly the same sense as your Ferrari analogy: none. No, the average Canadian does not have 100x the purchasing power of the average Indian. Not even close. You are off by a factor of 10.
And yes, 40 million people is a huge car market by any standard, at a price of 10K USD that equates to 350 billion dollars of potential sells. If just a tenth of those people buy a car each year you will have 35 billion dollars of annual income to the seller.
Most of Samsung UI is the vanilla Android. Unlike Sony who completely defaces the Android interface, Samsung uses pretty much the standard interface with just a few tweaks. At least that is the case with both Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 which I own.
Around 70 years ago it was illegal for black people to enter places and use buses in US. That was the law, and, thanks to people who defied those laws, sometimes at great cost to themselves, they changed. That is called civil disobedience and is many many times the only way to change things, especially against corrupt governments that have the power to perpetuate themselves, like US government, for example.
Furthermore laws are not absolute. Laws are only obeyed in 2 situations:
- When people agree with them
- When they can be forced upon people
A lot of people do not agree with IP laws, and those laws can't be really forced upon them. Add that to the fact that IP law can be very different from country to country and you will see the futility of fighting for IP in our world.
All the claimed patents related to the UI of Samsung's devices target Android and can be extended to other devices that use it, if the verdict stands (which hopefully won't happen).
Well historically right and wrong has been defined by the wining side. That is why we shouldn't give too much credit to people saying stuff is "wrong". They just don't really understand the concept.
In average Indians do have a low income in USD. Still if just 3% of then can afford this car that makes roughly 40 million people. Which is more than the whole population of Canada, for example. I am quite sure that more than 3% of its population can afford this price, especially considering that ontrary to your belief conventional cars already sell more than this there at considerably higher prices than this.
And no, there isn't a huge market for Ferraris anywhere in the world. Ferrari doesn't need a huge market though, it is quite content with its very small market of very rich people.
Now compare this with the costs of conventional cars, which they currently buy and you will see the poster you are criticizing is right. Truth is, there is a huge market in India for conventional cars, despite the low average income of its citizens, and conventional cars are more expensive than this.
The flaw in your analysis is that you forget India Population is just well above a billion people, so even a relatively small percentage of the population is still a lot of people.
His comment about the middle class is considerably more relevant than yours about the poor. Yes, there are many many poor people in India, but there are also many many middle class people capable of buying such cars.
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'We' as in the few people that are wasting their times talking to you in this thread, all people considerably more informed about the case than you and the jurors. And fear not, the decision certainly won't be reached by us, but it will be reached when this trial is voided, which will happen very soon if the jurors keep giving interviews about how clever they were in ignoring several of their instructions and skipping the boring stuff. The truth is things happen regardless of your wishes, Mr. little and irrelevant troll. Now be a good pet and go lick your iPad.
Considering the time they took to judge it, the jury read far less evidence than we did, rest assured, Mr Troll.
The fact that corporate lobbyists managed to change the legislation says otherwise...
There are Indians that can afford Ferraris, my dear troll. Because most of them can't afford 2K cars doesn't mean none can. And "just a few" Indians is still a hell lot of people as I showed. Now be a nice troll and go back to your cave.
Well said! And I do believe IP laws will be ignored more and more until copyright is finally broken. Regardless of any amount of money you put at it there is no way to force millions of people to obey unjust laws unless you have a gun pointed to each of their heads.
If your garbage can kept filling faster each day it would be smart on your part to stop emptying it and trying to figure other ways to get rid of your garbage, because even if you do not at some point your efforts will make very little difference.
You do have the right to share sell or destroy it and by the current laws of some countries you also have the right of monopoly over it. Fortunately this right is each day more difficult to be enforced because most people in our World disagree with your idea that thoughts and ideas can be owned and neither you nor any government can't really force them to do what you want in this matter.
Laws that are unenforceable are moot. Copyright laws are unenforceable in the current world. So lets stop wasting our efforts trying to preserve outdated business models that can't be possibly preserved.
Or when they brag about punishing the defendant even after being instructed not to do so, or when they say they didn't really read the instructions...
And if the target dies it is proven that he was one of these pesky immortals. :)
One of the elements is a square grid of icons with a dock. Which is a design currently used in most Android devices. It is a very silly patent because there is plenty of prior art, which was.blatantly ignored in the judgement, and is ridiculously obvious, but still it is there,
You do not have a point. Your math makes exactly the same sense as your Ferrari analogy: none. No, the average Canadian does not have 100x the purchasing power of the average Indian. Not even close. You are off by a factor of 10.
And yes, 40 million people is a huge car market by any standard, at a price of 10K USD that equates to 350 billion dollars of potential sells. If just a tenth of those people buy a car each year you will have 35 billion dollars of annual income to the seller.
Most of Samsung UI is the vanilla Android. Unlike Sony who completely defaces the Android interface, Samsung uses pretty much the standard interface with just a few tweaks. At least that is the case with both Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 which I own.
Around 70 years ago it was illegal for black people to enter places and use buses in US. That was the law, and, thanks to people who defied those laws, sometimes at great cost to themselves, they changed. That is called civil disobedience and is many many times the only way to change things, especially against corrupt governments that have the power to perpetuate themselves, like US government, for example.
Furthermore laws are not absolute. Laws are only obeyed in 2 situations:
- When people agree with them
- When they can be forced upon people
A lot of people do not agree with IP laws, and those laws can't be really forced upon them. Add that to the fact that IP law can be very different from country to country and you will see the futility of fighting for IP in our world.
All the claimed patents related to the UI of Samsung's devices target Android and can be extended to other devices that use it, if the verdict stands (which hopefully won't happen).
Well historically right and wrong has been defined by the wining side. That is why we shouldn't give too much credit to people saying stuff is "wrong". They just don't really understand the concept.
They have all the freedom to create or not. They do not the sacred right of exclusive control over which they created though.
Only if you consider the square "Apple stuff", and there are a lot of dead Greek mathematicians that would disagree.
They can, have been and will be.
See the excerpts he is quoting and you will see his post makes a hell lot more sense than yours.
In average Indians do have a low income in USD. Still if just 3% of then can afford this car that makes roughly 40 million people. Which is more than the whole population of Canada, for example. I am quite sure that more than 3% of its population can afford this price, especially considering that ontrary to your belief conventional cars already sell more than this there at considerably higher prices than this.
And no, there isn't a huge market for Ferraris anywhere in the world. Ferrari doesn't need a huge market though, it is quite content with its very small market of very rich people.
An opinion is nothing more than an assumption. If you consider A=B you are assuming A=B.
And we consider you wrong in both assumptions. ;)
Now compare this with the costs of conventional cars, which they currently buy and you will see the poster you are criticizing is right. Truth is, there is a huge market in India for conventional cars, despite the low average income of its citizens, and conventional cars are more expensive than this.
The flaw in your analysis is that you forget India Population is just well above a billion people, so even a relatively small percentage of the population is still a lot of people.
His comment about the middle class is considerably more relevant than yours about the poor. Yes, there are many many poor people in India, but there are also many many middle class people capable of buying such cars.