Yeah, something doesn't click - your "idea". You mistake "best service" for "most profitable" service. It doesn't make sense for the telcos (I just mistyped that "telcons". Subconscious??) to spend more than they already are on infrastructure (witness Verizon with FiOS this year).
The device is a factor, though. Just because you can get a reading with "only" 4 satellites, more help. A lot. Check out survey-grade GPS (not including DGPS w/ base stations...). There's also WAAS.
While your noble intentions are great (honest), what's the problem with giving me the choice about what to do with what's probably the most private of all property?
Noone's stopping you from giving away your organs for free - that's great. But why are there laws preventing me from making a buck for my heirs?
The fact is there's an organ shortage - so why not open up a market for them and see if monetary incentive helps?
"They picked their location, so now they have to deal with the consequences."
That works both ways. I never claimed it didn't. I'm just saying "you" (whoever the hell started this thread I'm replying to) have a choice. You (if I want to believe a word of what you're saying) seem to have made perfectly good choices. Congrats. So have I (and I live in DC, and I am doing just fine, thanks for asking).
And yeah. You were demanding 100k out of school just because you like your current alleged standard of living. That's an entitlement complex.
When selling your organs is illegal, only criminals will sell organs.
If I want to sell my dead body for a certain price, get some extra cash for my beneficiaries, why the hell can't I?
If it were legal and not some spooooooooky nonsense via Newsweek, the price would come down, and there'd be no shortage of spare parts.
Lots of possibilities that we're missing... (and yeah, jokes ha ha, or whine about the 3rd worlders getting chopped, but come on - get it out in the open and shine light on it, and the black market has a chance to disappear).
I didn't say because I don't make that kind of decision. Here's a hint though: NOONE is paying > 70k for a starting programmer in DC fresh out of school. NOONE.
You have a massive entitlement complex. I suggest you lose it as quickly as possible, otherwise you'll be in for a shock.
You're right - it is also tough noogies for the employer - the employer has to boost salary and benefits to entice people to join them. It's a nice cycle to be in, rather than the economic troubles going on in whatever dump you live in (I say this having grown up in Buffalo).
100k for school? You're a moron. Pay less than half that and go to a public uni. Or pay around 20k and live at home. Here's a hint: Noone gives a shit where you went to school as long as it's a real school.
And yeah, small apartment. It's called "starting out". You think you're entitled to a goddamn 3000 sq ft house straight out of school? No wonder you're angry at the world for doing you wrong. You live with someone else (friends, one would hope. But I'd guess not in your case) for a year, save up money, then buy a condo. It's called progression. You might want to think about that.
HVAC: Go for it. I've seen HVAC jobs requiring top secret security clearances around here - you can make a fortune.
Just quit whining about it. Noone wants to hear a whiny college kid who thinks just because he has a degree he's "earned" 6 figures somehow. You got a lot to learn about the world.
It's not naive to think otherwise: It's to simply look at the state of public education in America today and think "ye, gods!" If our public education system is so grand, why are we getting our asses handed to us from the east AND west? Why can parochial schools spending a tenth of the budget (there's some of your private education working, by the way) turn out kids that do just as well or better on any standardized test?
You want to bring this whole thing into a big old debate about libertarianism, have fun talking to yourself (and don't give me your absolute trash about modern liberalism being so much better - the corruption is abhorrent; I can't believe you don't see it).
Then you go into something about how a democracy lets you vote yourself some "free" stuff. Yeah, fantastic.
Private education CAN take up the slack. You bullshit line about capitalism is wrong, plain and simple. Private education will work because whether or not people have money at the time, businesses in America NEED BRAINS. How stupid would it be for a company in our info-tech economy to just assume it'll find brains somewhere?
People are using public education as a baby-sitter for their kids now, and it's NOT WORKING. How much money do we have to waste on the current system before we try something different? Before you're satisfied that it's a waste?
There are no open source projects you can volunteer on? Nothing you can do to help out with your church|society|gang?
Many people who want to get ahead work a hell of a lot more than one job, and many of them get somewhere in the end. Get your own 2-3 years experience!
"Forget being a college kid trying to land an entry level programming job, they just aren't available."
That is such nonsense it's unbelievable. Just because giant companies are throwing money away overseas doesn't mean there aren't any entry level jobs around. I'm dying to find a few good (young) folks. There's still more demand than people, at least around DC.
If that's not where you live, ask yourself why, and then move to DC.
"Unfortunately by that time, it's too late and the human race faces its planet becoming largely uninhabitable."
Really? When did that happen?
You can't claim it's failed spectacularly when it hasn't yet. The best you can do is make the doomsday prediction that it WILL fail spectacularly. I, and many others, will debate you on that prediction, however.
Nice try, but tell me this, genius: What is the incentive for said monopoly to provide good service? Oh that's right, there's isn't any. They're going to lose their monopoly? Not likely when they can buy off politicians with ease.
Noone's calling anyone "innocent" here. They are merely playing by the rules that were given to them, and taking advantage of those rules to the best of their ability. You do the same frigging thing. You don't like what the monopolies are doing? CHANGE THE RULES.
Lawyers end up killing ALL KINDS of construction projects, rail included. Don't be foolish, and stop conflating issues. Environmental groups/lawyers have vastly increased the cost of doing business in America. Ever hear of the EPA? Perhaps you should check it out.
Public transport is inefficient over the vast distribution of the American population. It can be efficient in close-in spaces. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that legal proceedings cost more than anything else these days.
Now, since you're not smart enough to check things out, I'll explain to you why rail is rarely faster than automobile travel. Better yet, I propose that you head on over to Amtrak.com and see how long it'll take you to ride on a train from NYC to Buffalo, NY. Then add in the time it takes to get to and from the rail station.
Again, so your feeblemindedness has a chance to catch up: Rail is rarely faster than automobiles because of the distances and distribution of population.
Note, I'm looking at the way things currently ARE in the US, not the way you or I might LIKE them to be.
My attitude has nothing to do with whether or not something can get done. I support all kinds of public transit options (I live in northern VA, it would be silly of me to do otherwise). However, you are the one jumping to conclusions and calling me names - the sign of a truly weak argument.
You even destroy your own point with your last two paragraphs. "It may be awkward now". What is the excuse when rail was king and the auto just starting? Why did rail ever fail? If rail is such a perfect mode of transportation, don't you think manufacturers and distributors of goods would have KEPT IT THAT WAY?
I'll say it once more: Trucks and planes are the most efficient way to get goods from point A to B in America. I'll caveat that by adding that in some limited circumstances, rail is better - you can see that because rail is USED in those circumstances. It's not that complicated.
I leave it up to you to go to college and study transportation.
Go ahead and call me names now. It's amusing, if pathetic.
Not trying to be a troll here or anything, but your quote "we're going to listen to the one which makes us the most profit" works equally well for the oil side and the global warming crowd. Climatologists would make themselves irrelevant if they came out and said, "You know what? The climate's great. See you in 50 years."
You'd never get enough high-speed rail in place to make an impact. Why, you ask? Lawyers. Lawyers for environmental groups, mainly, who fight any and all construction projects because they aren't good enough. Nothing gets done in America any more. Soul-sucking lawyers see big projects and think, "How can we sue and make a buck".
Rail is rarely faster than autos. Plus you have to get around once you get to your destination. Mass transit costs too much on the scale of America. But come on, New York is the only one with a good subway? There are subways in most large US cities that I've been to.
Rail is less efficient, more costly. If it was the other way around, business would be using it more. Trucks and planes are the most efficient way to get goods from point A to B in America. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Citizens of the rest of the world: Fuck off. 1. We're working on it, don't worry. 2. Don't forget who's been one of the leading nations in environmental science over the last few decades. 3. Let us know what you jokers plan to do about India and China.
You're making the libertarian argument yourself. You're right, it's not the consumer's responsibility to make sure that corporations are behaving in any particular way (except via government). The consumer should be doing something THEMSELVES rather than just sitting there taking it in the ass from companies doing things they don't like.
You don't have to buy shit from China. You'll pay more, but you'll feel good doing it. I know I do.
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Yeah, something doesn't click - your "idea". You mistake "best service" for "most profitable" service. It doesn't make sense for the telcos (I just mistyped that "telcons". Subconscious??) to spend more than they already are on infrastructure (witness Verizon with FiOS this year).
The device is a factor, though. Just because you can get a reading with "only" 4 satellites, more help. A lot. Check out survey-grade GPS (not including DGPS w/ base stations...). There's also WAAS.
Thank you hunterx, well said.
While your noble intentions are great (honest), what's the problem with giving me the choice about what to do with what's probably the most private of all property?
Noone's stopping you from giving away your organs for free - that's great. But why are there laws preventing me from making a buck for my heirs?
The fact is there's an organ shortage - so why not open up a market for them and see if monetary incentive helps?
Hey genius,
"They picked their location, so now they have to deal with the consequences."
That works both ways. I never claimed it didn't. I'm just saying "you" (whoever the hell started this thread I'm replying to) have a choice. You (if I want to believe a word of what you're saying) seem to have made perfectly good choices. Congrats. So have I (and I live in DC, and I am doing just fine, thanks for asking).
And yeah. You were demanding 100k out of school just because you like your current alleged standard of living. That's an entitlement complex.
When selling your organs is illegal, only criminals will sell organs.
If I want to sell my dead body for a certain price, get some extra cash for my beneficiaries, why the hell can't I?
If it were legal and not some spooooooooky nonsense via Newsweek, the price would come down, and there'd be no shortage of spare parts.
Lots of possibilities that we're missing... (and yeah, jokes ha ha, or whine about the 3rd worlders getting chopped, but come on - get it out in the open and shine light on it, and the black market has a chance to disappear).
I didn't say because I don't make that kind of decision. Here's a hint though: NOONE is paying > 70k for a starting programmer in DC fresh out of school. NOONE.
You have a massive entitlement complex. I suggest you lose it as quickly as possible, otherwise you'll be in for a shock.
You're right - it is also tough noogies for the employer - the employer has to boost salary and benefits to entice people to join them. It's a nice cycle to be in, rather than the economic troubles going on in whatever dump you live in (I say this having grown up in Buffalo).
100k for school? You're a moron. Pay less than half that and go to a public uni. Or pay around 20k and live at home. Here's a hint: Noone gives a shit where you went to school as long as it's a real school.
And yeah, small apartment. It's called "starting out". You think you're entitled to a goddamn 3000 sq ft house straight out of school? No wonder you're angry at the world for doing you wrong. You live with someone else (friends, one would hope. But I'd guess not in your case) for a year, save up money, then buy a condo. It's called progression. You might want to think about that.
HVAC: Go for it. I've seen HVAC jobs requiring top secret security clearances around here - you can make a fortune.
Just quit whining about it. Noone wants to hear a whiny college kid who thinks just because he has a degree he's "earned" 6 figures somehow. You got a lot to learn about the world.
It's not naive to think otherwise: It's to simply look at the state of public education in America today and think "ye, gods!" If our public education system is so grand, why are we getting our asses handed to us from the east AND west? Why can parochial schools spending a tenth of the budget (there's some of your private education working, by the way) turn out kids that do just as well or better on any standardized test?
You want to bring this whole thing into a big old debate about libertarianism, have fun talking to yourself (and don't give me your absolute trash about modern liberalism being so much better - the corruption is abhorrent; I can't believe you don't see it).
Then you go into something about how a democracy lets you vote yourself some "free" stuff. Yeah, fantastic.
Private education CAN take up the slack. You bullshit line about capitalism is wrong, plain and simple. Private education will work because whether or not people have money at the time, businesses in America NEED BRAINS. How stupid would it be for a company in our info-tech economy to just assume it'll find brains somewhere?
People are using public education as a baby-sitter for their kids now, and it's NOT WORKING. How much money do we have to waste on the current system before we try something different? Before you're satisfied that it's a waste?
You missed the sarcasm of my "benevolent" comment. I agree with you.
You can't fucking whine about there not being jobs just because they're in a place you don't want to go. Tough noogies if that's the case.
High cost of living is nonsense. The market pays for it. People room up. It works for everyone who's here.
There are no open source projects you can volunteer on? Nothing you can do to help out with your church|society|gang?
Many people who want to get ahead work a hell of a lot more than one job, and many of them get somewhere in the end. Get your own 2-3 years experience!
"Forget being a college kid trying to land an entry level programming job, they just aren't available."
That is such nonsense it's unbelievable. Just because giant companies are throwing money away overseas doesn't mean there aren't any entry level jobs around. I'm dying to find a few good (young) folks. There's still more demand than people, at least around DC.
If that's not where you live, ask yourself why, and then move to DC.
Move to DC. I could use a couple good programmers. They're fucking hard to find.
It's pretty naive of you to think that humans won't get any sort of education without the benevolent hand of government to guide them.
"any sane government".
Don't know about you, but I have yet to see one. Let me know if you find one. In the meantime, don't cry begging the blind man to show you the way...
If that's what you define as capitalism.... whooo boy.
"I hear capitalism works pretty well when jobs disappear and nobody can afford to buy anything."
Off-topic I admit, but really? You've heard this? It's happened somewhere? Where, praytell?
"Unfortunately by that time, it's too late and the human race faces its planet becoming largely uninhabitable."
Really? When did that happen?
You can't claim it's failed spectacularly when it hasn't yet. The best you can do is make the doomsday prediction that it WILL fail spectacularly. I, and many others, will debate you on that prediction, however.
Nice try, but tell me this, genius: What is the incentive for said monopoly to provide good service? Oh that's right, there's isn't any. They're going to lose their monopoly? Not likely when they can buy off politicians with ease.
Noone's calling anyone "innocent" here. They are merely playing by the rules that were given to them, and taking advantage of those rules to the best of their ability. You do the same frigging thing. You don't like what the monopolies are doing? CHANGE THE RULES.
Clueless AND profane. How original.
Lawyers end up killing ALL KINDS of construction projects, rail included. Don't be foolish, and stop conflating issues. Environmental groups/lawyers have vastly increased the cost of doing business in America. Ever hear of the EPA? Perhaps you should check it out.
Public transport is inefficient over the vast distribution of the American population. It can be efficient in close-in spaces. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that legal proceedings cost more than anything else these days.
Now, since you're not smart enough to check things out, I'll explain to you why rail is rarely faster than automobile travel. Better yet, I propose that you head on over to Amtrak.com and see how long it'll take you to ride on a train from NYC to Buffalo, NY. Then add in the time it takes to get to and from the rail station.
Again, so your feeblemindedness has a chance to catch up: Rail is rarely faster than automobiles because of the distances and distribution of population.
Note, I'm looking at the way things currently ARE in the US, not the way you or I might LIKE them to be.
My attitude has nothing to do with whether or not something can get done. I support all kinds of public transit options (I live in northern VA, it would be silly of me to do otherwise). However, you are the one jumping to conclusions and calling me names - the sign of a truly weak argument.
You even destroy your own point with your last two paragraphs. "It may be awkward now". What is the excuse when rail was king and the auto just starting? Why did rail ever fail? If rail is such a perfect mode of transportation, don't you think manufacturers and distributors of goods would have KEPT IT THAT WAY?
I'll say it once more: Trucks and planes are the most efficient way to get goods from point A to B in America. I'll caveat that by adding that in some limited circumstances, rail is better - you can see that because rail is USED in those circumstances. It's not that complicated.
I leave it up to you to go to college and study transportation.
Go ahead and call me names now. It's amusing, if pathetic.
Not trying to be a troll here or anything, but your quote "we're going to listen to the one which makes us the most profit" works equally well for the oil side and the global warming crowd. Climatologists would make themselves irrelevant if they came out and said, "You know what? The climate's great. See you in 50 years."
You'd never get enough high-speed rail in place to make an impact. Why, you ask? Lawyers. Lawyers for environmental groups, mainly, who fight any and all construction projects because they aren't good enough. Nothing gets done in America any more. Soul-sucking lawyers see big projects and think, "How can we sue and make a buck".
Rail is rarely faster than autos. Plus you have to get around once you get to your destination. Mass transit costs too much on the scale of America. But come on, New York is the only one with a good subway? There are subways in most large US cities that I've been to.
Rail is less efficient, more costly. If it was the other way around, business would be using it more. Trucks and planes are the most efficient way to get goods from point A to B in America. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Citizens of the rest of the world: Fuck off.
1. We're working on it, don't worry.
2. Don't forget who's been one of the leading nations in environmental science over the last few decades.
3. Let us know what you jokers plan to do about India and China.
You're making the libertarian argument yourself. You're right, it's not the consumer's responsibility to make sure that corporations are behaving in any particular way (except via government). The consumer should be doing something THEMSELVES rather than just sitting there taking it in the ass from companies doing things they don't like.
You don't have to buy shit from China. You'll pay more, but you'll feel good doing it. I know I do.