I am not disagreeing with you. Gentoo as it exists today is exclusionary in terms of bandwidth (though I wouldn't be suprised if there already exists an undocumented portage on CD hack like you describe). This is necessarily by design but should probably be recognized as a consiquence of that design rather than a goal.
Its also possible that Gentoo is in its infancy and can be expected at some point to provide all of the niceties and conveniences you expect from other distros.
Gentoo is currently not for the faint of heart or bandwidth.
"trademark law requires a vigorous defense of one's brand at all times"
This has more to do with the silliness of precedent in trademark law than anything else. Unfortunatly no matter what kind of trademark you had you would be expected to go the distance defending it or risk losing it. Of course you know this because ou read the article:).
Maybe someone should apply this logic to the registration of domain names. Then possibly I could get ahold of a few that have been squated on for several years with no actual site.
I have been thinking about starting a distro with this specificly in mind. Both of the ideas you bring up here will be extremely important for a truely common friendly desktop linux distro. I don't believe that any truely userspace (primarily X) progs should be installed by default. When I start my wm for the first time I don't want my apps menu filled with lots of programs starting with 'g' or 'k' or 'x' without knowing what the hell they are or what they do. I would "Like" to have a package manager present me with my options and good (read: simple) descriptions of what the heck I'm installing. Then, possibly, I might actually use some of this wonderful free software.
It is a far more familiar process for the end user to aquire the software they use, whether is be to buy it or download it. Preinstalled software (excluding IE, including Notepad) tends to be ignored in the rush to go get some software for their OS.
I didn't notice any mention of the underlying FreeBSD based server achitecture during the broadcast today on TechTV. I do wonder how much server will remain behind the client-centric GUI. Will this be something to replace our Linux/XFree setup?
Jabber has submitted a draft to the IETF. It is still a working draft but with features including:
XML based (lots of ideas here:)
Anyone can run a server
Support for SSL connections
Ad free
I don't think an AOL/ICQ combo will have any longterm effect as the market will have a clear leader. The only way for AOL to compete will be for them to adopt the standard too (which isn't foreseeable).
The Judge wasn't origionally very fond of the 2 company idea because, realizing that there will be little or no reason for the companies to compete, that it would only distinguish them as two companies monopolizing their respective markets. Anyone know how they plan to actually help the industry with this rash but meaningless punishment?
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I am not disagreeing with you. Gentoo as it exists today is exclusionary in terms of bandwidth (though I wouldn't be suprised if there already exists an undocumented portage on CD hack like you describe). This is necessarily by design but should probably be recognized as a consiquence of that design rather than a goal.
Its also possible that Gentoo is in its infancy and can be expected at some point to provide all of the niceties and conveniences you expect from other distros.
Gentoo is currently not for the faint of heart or bandwidth.
"trademark law requires a vigorous defense of one's brand at all times"
:).
This has more to do with the silliness of precedent in trademark law than anything else. Unfortunatly no matter what kind of trademark you had you would be expected to go the distance defending it or risk losing it. Of course you know this because ou read the article
Maybe someone should apply this logic to the registration of domain names. Then possibly I could get ahold of a few that have been squated on for several years with no actual site.
I agree totally.
I have been thinking about starting a distro with this specificly in mind. Both of the ideas you bring up here will be extremely important for a truely common friendly desktop linux distro. I don't believe that any truely userspace (primarily X) progs should be installed by default. When I start my wm for the first time I don't want my apps menu filled with lots of programs starting with 'g' or 'k' or 'x' without knowing what the hell they are or what they do. I would "Like" to have a package manager present me with my options and good (read: simple) descriptions of what the heck I'm installing. Then, possibly, I might actually use some of this wonderful free software.
It is a far more familiar process for the end user to aquire the software they use, whether is be to buy it or download it. Preinstalled software (excluding IE, including Notepad) tends to be ignored in the rush to go get some software for their OS.
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I didn't notice any mention of the underlying FreeBSD based server achitecture during the broadcast today on TechTV. I do wonder how much server will remain behind the client-centric GUI. Will this be something to replace our Linux/XFree setup?
- XML based (lots of ideas here
:)
- Anyone can run a server
- Support for SSL connections
- Ad free
I don't think an AOL/ICQ combo will have any longterm effect as the market will have a clear leader. The only way for AOL to compete will be for them to adopt the standard too (which isn't foreseeable).The Judge wasn't origionally very fond of the 2 company idea because, realizing that there will be little or no reason for the companies to compete, that it would only distinguish them as two companies monopolizing their respective markets. Anyone know how they plan to actually help the industry with this rash but meaningless punishment?