Er... sort of. Not the Koch brothers, but the owners of Zuchati park certainly did. And, as you may have observed, the Courts reluctantly agreed it was their right.
There's a reason why "papers, please" has such a strong association with oppression.
Yes, because it refers to periods in history where individuals were not free to travel without a permission slip, like black's in the jim crow south, jews in Nazi Germany, Russian peasants . . . pretty much up to today. It's not a reference to "I know where you've been" its a reference to "You are not free to go where you want, and at any time I can review your right to be hear and jail / kill you if you are in the wrong place."
This has only the most tangential relationship to the current discussion.
Around here (Phoenix, AZ), I never see anyone ranting in public parks, so I really wonder if they don't have laws against it. I do see them ranting, with PA systems, in places like on Mill Ave. during the evenings or weekends (usually about fundie Christian stuff).
We haven't had much of a "go rant about politics in the park" culture for a hundred years or so.
A) This article is about a conservative "news" zine/website, not NPR.
B) No. Government contributions don't convert a private enterprise into a publicly organized entity.
C) Even if he worked for the federal government, the government could fire him -- if his public speech interfered with his public employment. You cannot take employment with the U.S. government without submitting to greater control by the Federal government. You can, however, quit.
or by tax write off which has the same effect on government.
This is such a specious argument. I get a standardized deduction for being alive and a citizen. Therefore the Federal Government is sponsoring everything I buy. After all, the U.S. Gov't could have elected to take that money from me. Ergo, every purchase I make is gov't spending. Apparently, the U.S. Gov't has a penchant for fine cheese, cigars, and port. I knew it! Those guys spend our money on the most wasteful things.
This is pretty much Citzenship 101 -- you are free to say whatever the hell crazy bullshit you want. The government will not arrest you or hold you hostage for your views.
I, however, as an individual citizen can hate you for what you say. I can exile you from my home, my office and my life. That is my freedom, I can choose not to associate with you, and I can choose not to allow your crazy into the places I control. I cannot, however, call a cop and have you thrown out of the public park where your ranting is bothering me.
I think less generous is a better term when the budget is still best measured in parts of trillions.
As someone who has had to say goodbye to numerous friends due to the fact that the only major employers of engineers in my area are defense contractors . ..
Dude, I trust they're not dead right, you mean to say fired yes? Otherwise, we may be focused on the wrong story.:D
Why do some people seem to have this mentality that someone getting offended will bring about the apocalypse?
Lo it is written, that the first seal shall break when some-random-school-marm-in-Minnesota hears the harsh sound of a cuss word uttered across the internet. On that day the skys shall darken with Orrlys and the deeps shall spill forth their Trolls. Also, 4chan and Reddit will merge.
Pray for the hour of thy death and be spared this dread vision.
I have a better idea. Get rid of political appointments entirely.
OMFG no. Do you really want to elect your garbage man? How about your public defender. Can you image the ads? "Soandso got John Murderer off on a technicality and he went on to murder three police officers and a reverend before being shot down in the street. Don't vote for Soandso, vote for Joe Letemhang for Public Defender. Putting the right amount of work in to make sure those bastards all pay."
My only purpose is to work. At the office I work for money. At home I work to keep my home clean and pleasent. I work to raise my children well. I work to keep my marriage happy -- work work work.
Yeah.. not every country. Of course the U.S. is rich in oil and other natural resources. We're now a net exporter of oil. Oh, sorry, did the facts get in your way? Let's just slide those aside again.
Actually... yes, that is the scientific method. Anecdotal evidence which disproves a theory (i.e. individual experiments that produce oddball results) are part of the scientific method. It's all about repetition and cross checking your result against others. Of course, the scientific method has nothing to do with statistics or vetting statistics, which are just compilations of data. Statistics/= science.
Not entirely true. There are times when working (for me) is more fun and relaxing than almost anything else I could think of doing with my time. If you've got the right job and the right temperament it can work. That said, I would fall out of love with my job if I was REQUIRED to put in the hours I put in freely. Its a psyche thing.
Apple, AT&T and Comcast FULLY endorse this. So do all the other big $$$ corporations that would then become effectively immune from anyone without corporation sized pockets to dip into for legal fees.
Slashdot Mirror
*cough* The U.S. is a net exporter of Oil this year. (First time since 1949)
citation: e.g. Bloomberg News
Er... sort of. Not the Koch brothers, but the owners of Zuchati park certainly did. And, as you may have observed, the Courts reluctantly agreed it was their right.
There's a reason why "papers, please" has such a strong association with oppression.
Yes, because it refers to periods in history where individuals were not free to travel without a permission slip, like black's in the jim crow south, jews in Nazi Germany, Russian peasants . . . pretty much up to today. It's not a reference to "I know where you've been" its a reference to "You are not free to go where you want, and at any time I can review your right to be hear and jail / kill you if you are in the wrong place."
This has only the most tangential relationship to the current discussion.
Around here (Phoenix, AZ), I never see anyone ranting in public parks, so I really wonder if they don't have laws against it. I do see them ranting, with PA systems, in places like on Mill Ave. during the evenings or weekends (usually about fundie Christian stuff).
We haven't had much of a "go rant about politics in the park" culture for a hundred years or so.
-GiH
A) This article is about a conservative "news" zine/website, not NPR.
B) No. Government contributions don't convert a private enterprise into a publicly organized entity.
C) Even if he worked for the federal government, the government could fire him -- if his public speech interfered with his public employment. You cannot take employment with the U.S. government without submitting to greater control by the Federal government. You can, however, quit.
-GiH
or by tax write off which has the same effect on government.
This is such a specious argument. I get a standardized deduction for being alive and a citizen. Therefore the Federal Government is sponsoring everything I buy. After all, the U.S. Gov't could have elected to take that money from me. Ergo, every purchase I make is gov't spending. Apparently, the U.S. Gov't has a penchant for fine cheese, cigars, and port. I knew it! Those guys spend our money on the most wasteful things.
-GiH
Yehp. And the entire concept of modding down is to say "this message isn't worth the space on my screen."
This is pretty much Citzenship 101 -- you are free to say whatever the hell crazy bullshit you want. The government will not arrest you or hold you hostage for your views.
I, however, as an individual citizen can hate you for what you say. I can exile you from my home, my office and my life. That is my freedom, I can choose not to associate with you, and I can choose not to allow your crazy into the places I control. I cannot, however, call a cop and have you thrown out of the public park where your ranting is bothering me.
See the difference?
-GiH
Congress is getting VERY stingy.
I think less generous is a better term when the budget is still best measured in parts of trillions.
As someone who has had to say goodbye to numerous friends due to the fact that the only major employers of engineers in my area are defense contractors . . .
Dude, I trust they're not dead right, you mean to say fired yes? Otherwise, we may be focused on the wrong story. :D
-GiH
Get off my Internets -- DARPA
Can you roll up your Ipad and jam it in your bag?
To each their own. DINKs aren't /bad/ for the economy really -- just lazier and less productive than the rest of us.
Why do some people seem to have this mentality that someone getting offended will bring about the apocalypse?
Lo it is written, that the first seal shall break when some-random-school-marm-in-Minnesota hears the harsh sound of a cuss word uttered across the internet. On that day the skys shall darken with Orrlys and the deeps shall spill forth their Trolls. Also, 4chan and Reddit will merge.
Pray for the hour of thy death and be spared this dread vision.
-GiH
And 4g is damn fast. Rivals my cable.
I have a better idea. Get rid of political appointments entirely.
OMFG no. Do you really want to elect your garbage man? How about your public defender. Can you image the ads? "Soandso got John Murderer off on a technicality and he went on to murder three police officers and a reverend before being shot down in the street. Don't vote for Soandso, vote for Joe Letemhang for Public Defender. Putting the right amount of work in to make sure those bastards all pay."
My only purpose is to work. At the office I work for money. At home I work to keep my home clean and pleasent. I work to raise my children well. I work to keep my marriage happy -- work work work.
-GiH
This has nothing to do with the fact that people who can work into their 90s have jobs that are not physically taxing and wearing on the body.
Yeah .. not every country. Of course the U.S. is rich in oil and other natural resources. We're now a net exporter of oil. Oh, sorry, did the facts get in your way? Let's just slide those aside again.
WOOOOSH
That's the scientific method alright!
Actually... yes, that is the scientific method. Anecdotal evidence which disproves a theory (i.e. individual experiments that produce oddball results) are part of the scientific method. It's all about repetition and cross checking your result against others. Of course, the scientific method has nothing to do with statistics or vetting statistics, which are just compilations of data. Statistics /= science.
-GiH
Not entirely true. There are times when working (for me) is more fun and relaxing than almost anything else I could think of doing with my time. If you've got the right job and the right temperament it can work. That said, I would fall out of love with my job if I was REQUIRED to put in the hours I put in freely. Its a psyche thing.
Yes, we'd never compete with those other industrialized countries ... most of which mandate 40 hours a week or less.
If you're competing for jobs with unskilled Chinese farmers, you're doing it wrong.
-GiH
May I suggest:
Hobbies
Charity work
Exercise!
Go back to school for an extra degree
Or, if you really want 80 hours, a second job.
-GiH
Apple, AT&T and Comcast FULLY endorse this. So do all the other big $$$ corporations that would then become effectively immune from anyone without corporation sized pockets to dip into for legal fees.
Its worth remembering that quite a few people who enter the system actually /are/ guilty. Maybe not even a majority sometimes, but many.