The Inquirer has a story about MS Longhorn and its need for better than entry level graphics cards
Does it need one, or is the new GUI optional ala Windows XP? I've personally heard of the latter, and too many months back to recall the actual article, I read something about there being about three modes -- one bare bones, one spiffed up and one bells & whistles mode.
While I'm not sure it's a good idea to fuel a browser war ( I rarely see someone coming out victorious anyway;-) ), I *do* believe Opera should have a lot of respect for innovating tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, and several more features that have later been adopted in other browses. It's technologically an extremely nice browser with DOM caching for almost instant back/forward navigation that still is in the state of an unfixed Bugzilla bug for Firefox' part. The memory management is also nice and to the level that although it's like a extension-packed Firefox, it usually consumes less resources than Firefox in its stock configuration.
On the other hand, Firefox has a previously unseen extension system to bring it up to Opera's feature set in many cases, and in some cases surpass it. It's also open source, which appeals to those preferring that model. And even if you don't care, the lack of cost is of course appealing.
I for one really enjoy both browsers and is always on the lookout for the latest beta versions of Opera. There's a lot of happening in that camp, much like Firefox have an interesting future in Firefox 1.1 and onwards.
I prefer to look at it as a fight against IE, not a free-for-all.;-)
Opera has a very loyal fan base that isn't going away soon, so I'm hoping to see coming years of browser development. It would be sad to lose the creative minds on Opera Software and their interesting browser, and I'm pretty sure some members of the Mozilla Foundation agree. Respect to everyone trying to give the software behemoth a fight.:-)
So 'we' say Opera, FF etc are all secure and IE isn't.
"Secure" is relative;-)
So far, it seems like Opera and Firefox is more secure than IE, but neither have been without their quirks.
Neither of those support ActiveX objects like IE does, and neither are integrated in the OS. So a bunch of problems are fixed already on a software design level. But that's basically all we can say about it. All your mentioned browsers have had their shares of severe security exploits, some more than others.
Is there a way to evaluate this? It seems like simply something you have to wait and see.
Yes, you can use for example the software design as indications of where it could be in security. You can also look at their respective exploit histories on sites like e.g. Secunia: Opera 7, Firefox 1.x, IE 6.
There you can find exactly how severe their exploits are, how many there have been, how many are still unpatched, what kind of exploits are most common in the products, etc. I'm not sure how much research is done for IE in comparison to e.g. Firefox though. Since IE is by far the most used browser, it seems logical to think it has most reported bugs simply because most are checking for bugs in that browser. I could be wrong though:-)
Well, we can be pretty confident that Mozilla is more secure than IE because Netscape was in the same market position as IE is now for a long time, and yet didn't see the same problems we now have with IE.
Back then, Netscape didn't use the same HTML rendering engine. It was rewritten so you can't make this assumption with the "modern" Netscape 7.
I find it amazing somebody points out that he makes the same choice on slashdot (of all places) and not only gets flack about it but gets modded down for it.
I think the moderation was done not because of his software preference, not because of which software development model he supported, but because of the (in my opinion as well) completely redundant rambling on about the GPL, what it implies, and how Opera shouldn't be called free software. I quote:
Software isn't free unless you have specific rights over the source code to basically do what you want with the code.
While I think many here believe the word "free" can have multiple meanings, one of them being "gratis". That's why I think he was modded down, since some saw that statement as a flamebait.
Software isn't free unless you have specific rights over the source code to basically do what you want with the code.
They obviously meant in the meaning of beer, you know what you typed in the title. We don't need yet another rambling post about the GPL. It's not the law, and free as in beer is a perfectly valid usage of the word, even when speaking of software.
First, Secunia released the advisory for Windows security update 890175 (MS05-001) back in 2004-10-20. Secunia linked to a workaround for the flaw 8 days after this, that was posted by Microsoft. Secunia increased the severity rating in 2005-01-07, and 4 days later, Microsoft has now posted an actual fix.
Now, the story, unfortunately for Windows users, and fortunately for e.g. open source evangelists, it seems like there is some things to be aware of if needing to uninstall the fix, for example due to possible problems caused by this fix, which are mentioned here, under the "Known Issues" heading.
In other words, we're talking about one issue that may appear as a direct consequence of installing this (my first link) and another one if you then decide to uninstall this fix (my second link).
Of course, if you aren't subject to the first problem, you don't need to do a thing and you are indeed living in the environment Microsoft was crossing their fingers for that you would be in.
"It was like a dream come true," said Britney, who has wide-set brown eyes and a broad smile. "It was all I'd really wanted since I was 8. They called on the phone and said, 'You're going to be a Mouseketeer,' and I just started screaming. 'I'm so excited, I'm so excited,' and jumping up and down."
-snip-
The Mouseketeers don't wear Mouse ears and uniforms; they wear colorful, stylish clothes. They sing the old theme ("M-I-C -- 'see you real soon' -- K-E-Y -- 'Why? Because we like you' -- M-O-U-S-E"), but follow with a song that has a hip-hop beat and lyrics like "MMC is always in the groove!"
It was like a dream come true It was all I'd really wanted I'm so excited I'm so excited and jumping up and down
M-I-C -- see you real soon K-E-Y -- why? Because we like you! M-O-U-S-E MMC is always in the groove!
Hmmm, this is turning out to be on par on Britney's other songs!
Or just donate to reliable organizations, like the Red Cross, etc. Some have been listed in the newspapers. It's not that hard if you stay up to date with the news. The problems arise if you surf off on your own and enter keywords in Google, or think people e-mailing you are automatically honest.
I was just going to post the same. There's more to a game than graphics, but decent graphics is pretty much a requirement today to attract the large masses of gamers, which is probably required to fund a MMORPG as well. With screenshots as abysmal as this , it being a beta is not really an excuse. Thesescreenshots are for example from Guild Wars, which had a beta weekend event end today.
Sometimes these exploits can target you even if you don't use IE due to the integration. Hopefully not the case here.:-/ Otherwise it'd be scary to use XP for gaming...
Yeah, I also found it a bit funny... Do the article submitter think Microsoft has done an awesome stabilization effort with Windows 64-bit? I can't see how it's much different than regular XP (possibly with SP2 though) if that's backported into it. Do 64-bit code a more stable OS make? No.
When seeing an article like this going on about command line histories and 3D desktops, it's interesting that a major new feature in Microsoft Longhorn will be the completely new shell code-named Monad. Hm. Better late than never, I guess. I wonder why they see a need for it though; aren't they trying to move away from a command line? Maybe it's an attempt to get back users having switched from Windows. Who knows, but that sounds a bit strange too, since it won't be very compatible with a *nix shell either.:-/
IMHO, it's one of the strangest and most surprising moves in Longhorn.
Yes, I'm wondering what they mean when they're comparing to "VB".
The one Microsoft is trying to make deprecated, or the new (as in "four years old"-new) VB?
It makes a pretty big difference regarding basically everything, including the database support I'm wondering about where they're boldly saying VB will be crushed in that field, even in (apparently from the release notes) unfinished quality. I just kind of assumed they're comparing to the latest version of Microsoft's app when they're talking about the latest version of their app, but in case they aren't, it should really have been mentioned in the article as it's two very different products.
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The Inquirer has a story about MS Longhorn and its need for better than entry level graphics cards
Does it need one, or is the new GUI optional ala Windows XP? I've personally heard of the latter, and too many months back to recall the actual article, I read something about there being about three modes -- one bare bones, one spiffed up and one bells & whistles mode.
Hopefully, we will all soon realize that... ....we really don't know all that much YET about biology and about how the universe works.
What do you mean "soon"?
Most serious researchers understand this already.
That's probably what they love too, and what motivates them.
While I'm not sure it's a good idea to fuel a browser war ( I rarely see someone coming out victorious anyway ;-) ), I *do* believe Opera should have a lot of respect for innovating tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, and several more features that have later been adopted in other browses. It's technologically an extremely nice browser with DOM caching for almost instant back/forward navigation that still is in the state of an unfixed Bugzilla bug for Firefox' part. The memory management is also nice and to the level that although it's like a extension-packed Firefox, it usually consumes less resources than Firefox in its stock configuration.
;-)
:-)
On the other hand, Firefox has a previously unseen extension system to bring it up to Opera's feature set in many cases, and in some cases surpass it. It's also open source, which appeals to those preferring that model. And even if you don't care, the lack of cost is of course appealing.
I for one really enjoy both browsers and is always on the lookout for the latest beta versions of Opera. There's a lot of happening in that camp, much like Firefox have an interesting future in Firefox 1.1 and onwards.
I prefer to look at it as a fight against IE, not a free-for-all.
Opera has a very loyal fan base that isn't going away soon, so I'm hoping to see coming years of browser development. It would be sad to lose the creative minds on Opera Software and their interesting browser, and I'm pretty sure some members of the Mozilla Foundation agree. Respect to everyone trying to give the software behemoth a fight.
So 'we' say Opera, FF etc are all secure and IE isn't.
;-)
:-)
"Secure" is relative
So far, it seems like Opera and Firefox is more secure than IE, but neither have been without their quirks.
Neither of those support ActiveX objects like IE does, and neither are integrated in the OS. So a bunch of problems are fixed already on a software design level. But that's basically all we can say about it. All your mentioned browsers have had their shares of severe security exploits, some more than others.
Is there a way to evaluate this? It seems like simply something you have to wait and see.
Yes, you can use for example the software design as indications of where it could be in security. You can also look at their respective exploit histories on sites like e.g. Secunia: Opera 7, Firefox 1.x, IE 6.
There you can find exactly how severe their exploits are, how many there have been, how many are still unpatched, what kind of exploits are most common in the products, etc. I'm not sure how much research is done for IE in comparison to e.g. Firefox though. Since IE is by far the most used browser, it seems logical to think it has most reported bugs simply because most are checking for bugs in that browser. I could be wrong though
Well, we can be pretty confident that Mozilla is more secure than IE because Netscape was in the same market position as IE is now for a long time, and yet didn't see the same problems we now have with IE.
Back then, Netscape didn't use the same HTML rendering engine. It was rewritten so you can't make this assumption with the "modern" Netscape 7.
I find it amazing somebody points out that he makes the same choice on slashdot (of all places) and not only gets flack about it but gets modded down for it.
I think the moderation was done not because of his software preference, not because of which software development model he supported, but because of the (in my opinion as well) completely redundant rambling on about the GPL, what it implies, and how Opera shouldn't be called free software. I quote:
Software isn't free unless you have specific rights over the source code to basically do what you want with the code.
While I think many here believe the word "free" can have multiple meanings, one of them being "gratis".
That's why I think he was modded down, since some saw that statement as a flamebait.
Software isn't free unless you have specific rights over the source code to basically do what you want with the code.
They obviously meant in the meaning of beer, you know what you typed in the title.
We don't need yet another rambling post about the GPL.
It's not the law, and free as in beer is a perfectly valid usage of the word, even when speaking of software.
If we're speaking of flaws in graphics files, this one was of course not as bad since it wasn't limited to Windows, right? ;-)
That's darn expensive switch if you're already sitting on x86 hardware, which I have a feeling Windows uers do. :-)
I suggest another OS in that case.
First, Secunia released the advisory for Windows security update 890175 (MS05-001) back in 2004-10-20. Secunia linked to a workaround for the flaw 8 days after this, that was posted by Microsoft. Secunia increased the severity rating in 2005-01-07, and 4 days later, Microsoft has now posted an actual fix.
Now, the story, unfortunately for Windows users, and fortunately for e.g. open source evangelists, it seems like there is some things to be aware of if needing to uninstall the fix, for example due to possible problems caused by this fix, which are mentioned here, under the "Known Issues" heading.
In other words, we're talking about one issue that may appear as a direct consequence of installing this (my first link) and another one if you then decide to uninstall this fix (my second link).
Of course, if you aren't subject to the first problem, you don't need to do a thing and you are indeed living in the environment Microsoft was crossing their fingers for that you would be in.
Sorry, I can't count, it seems more like 8 or 9 days.
The workaround is in KB Article #888534.
On the other hand, Microsoft posted a workaround for the problem 6 days after Secunia discovered the flaw.
National Geographic? You were lucky having pictures. We had Reader's Digest.
You had paper??
We lied down on the grass, looking up at the clouds and imagining they were in sexual positions...
"It was like a dream come true," said Britney, who has
wide-set brown eyes and a broad smile. "It was all I'd really
wanted since I was 8. They called on the phone and said, 'You're
going to be a Mouseketeer,' and I just started screaming. 'I'm so
excited, I'm so excited,' and jumping up and down."
-snip-
The Mouseketeers don't wear Mouse
ears and uniforms; they wear colorful, stylish clothes. They sing
the old theme ("M-I-C -- 'see you real soon' -- K-E-Y -- 'Why?
Because we like you' -- M-O-U-S-E"), but follow with a song that
has a hip-hop beat and lyrics like "MMC is always in the groove!"
It was like a dream come true
It was all I'd really wanted
I'm so excited
I'm so excited
and jumping up and down
M-I-C -- see you real soon
K-E-Y -- why?
Because we like you!
M-O-U-S-E
MMC is always in the groove!
Hmmm, this is turning out to be on par on Britney's other songs!
Or just donate to reliable organizations, like the Red Cross, etc. Some have been listed in the newspapers. It's not that hard if you stay up to date with the news. The problems arise if you surf off on your own and enter keywords in Google, or think people e-mailing you are automatically honest.
I was just going to post the same. There's more to a game than graphics, but decent graphics is pretty much a requirement today to attract the large masses of gamers, which is probably required to fund a MMORPG as well. With screenshots as abysmal as this , it being a beta is not really an excuse. These screenshots are for example from Guild Wars, which had a beta weekend event end today.
Come on, it's a game for 2005...
Secunia says 'Solution: Use another product.'"
:-/ Otherwise it'd be scary to use XP for gaming...
Sometimes these exploits can target you even if you don't use IE due to the integration. Hopefully not the case here.
Yeah, I also found it a bit funny... Do the article submitter think Microsoft has done an awesome stabilization effort with Windows 64-bit? I can't see how it's much different than regular XP (possibly with SP2 though) if that's backported into it. Do 64-bit code a more stable OS make? No.
Yes, but that's way above 15 lines large. :-)
Sounds like the RIAA should be going after the real pirates, not little Susie or Grandma.
You do understand that they think they'd increase sales with, for example, 5% if they didn't try to stop piracy?
And who's to say they aren't right? Neither you or I have seen how much they'd sell without piracy.
Spyware is often sneaked in through license agreements people don't read through before clicking OK in the installer.
Ya they are moving away from the command line like Apple did when they switched from OS 9 to OS X
:-)
And that is exactly why I wonder why they spend a whole lot of effort to develop and push a new command line.
When seeing an article like this going on about command line histories and 3D desktops, it's interesting that a major new feature in Microsoft Longhorn will be the completely new shell code-named Monad. Hm. Better late than never, I guess. I wonder why they see a need for it though; aren't they trying to move away from a command line? Maybe it's an attempt to get back users having switched from Windows. Who knows, but that sounds a bit strange too, since it won't be very compatible with a *nix shell either. :-/
IMHO, it's one of the strangest and most surprising moves in Longhorn.
Yes, I'm wondering what they mean when they're comparing to "VB".
The one Microsoft is trying to make deprecated, or the new (as in "four years old"-new) VB?
It makes a pretty big difference regarding basically everything, including the database support I'm wondering about where they're boldly saying VB will be crushed in that field, even in (apparently from the release notes) unfinished quality. I just kind of assumed they're comparing to the latest version of Microsoft's app when they're talking about the latest version of their app, but in case they aren't, it should really have been mentioned in the article as it's two very different products.
Leave it to an apparent expert to get hung up on the wallpaper.
I'm asking because I'm not an expert.