Yeah, considering how much of a target their site may become, they should considering digitally signing their EXE. Windows nowadays supports digitally signed EXE files.
Which is great... until Jane Soccermom stumbles upon a website that detects the browser and instructs the user to turn it on for "optimal performance". Jane Soccermom flips the switch, worm says thank you in its special ActiveX way, chaos ensues...
If he couldn't do this with Netscape, he'd just switch to Microsoft's browser. What do you feel is better?
They did support the Mozilla development environment for a good many years for like 0 profit
Actually did far more than that...
They donated $2 million to the Mozilla Foundation to get them going and willingly donated the mozilla.org domain name, the Mozilla-related trademarks, and related equipment such as the mozilla.org servers, to Mozilla Foundation. They was obliged to do none of this, just having purchased Netscape and got all this along with them.
Oh, and by the way, I realize Gentoo offers greater customizability, I was mostly just commenting on what you said about being hell bent on throwing everything in. I think these new distros are great for people who don't really care about spending time to customize every little detail and is just looking for a package without a lot of junk inside so one can download it from the internet instead, if one really needs something. Like you do with most other operating systems besides the Linux-based ones.:-)
I like Gentoo for its customisability. All the other distros are hell bent on throwing in everything which is great, but uses up so much RAM. I've seen SuSE use a full gig before just running KDE. With Gentoo I can leave all the little things I don't want out.
No.
Distros to fill in this gap has become more and more common lately. See also Knoppix, Mepis, and Ubuntu. It's almost like a new generation of Linux distros taking form, and I personally like those better than the Lindows abomination.:-S I like distros to have a goal to be only on one CD. Usually stability and user friendless come more easily from that as well, since there's less that can go wrong and less options to confuse the user.
I'm now using Mepis as a Linux amateur and it's great!:-) I can choose to run it off CD and get an excellent rescue disk that way with on-the-fly NTFS and SATA support, and also automatic network configuration. And if I like it enough, like I did, I can just install it on disk and it still has everything I can ask for from a basic OS as a normal user. It felt funny to install the OS from within the OS.:-)
And if I need more, it's an excellent Debian-based distro I can use simple apt-get commands or even simpler installer GUIs if I like it that way. Has been rock solid so far, as opposed to Mandrake 10 after around 5 days of regular use.:-P
Suddenly, multi-CD (or even multi-DVD *gasp*) distros feel so... yesterday.
Does that matter when we're talking Delpi 2005? We aren't comparing Turbo C with an early version of Visual C.
And then whole new proprietary languages like C# at the same time...
They're preserving and improving C++ support. Don't care about C# if you don't wish to care.
The marketing goal is to capture developers, yes?
Yes, as with all companies, including Borland.
The more bells and whistles the better
I'm sure you'll find the same in Delphi 2005. Heck, they're even applying the Microsoft Versioning Scheme(tm).
It was, and still is, probably the wrong strategy for a commercial company.
Why do you believe that is the wrong strategy?
I fully agree that technical quality is a very nice thing to have, but I'm just questioning how much they'll achieve with a release like this. How are they going to convince the Visual C++ devs that their product is significantly better? It's easy if you compare Firefox with IE as there are major notable improvements while IE is almost daily suffering from security problems. But in this case I don't see a reason to shout "wow" even if I'm interested in developer IDE's. I've even tried Delphi in the past, but didn't see why I should learn Pascal when it seems like 95% of all developers use either Java, VB or C++ today.
Keep in mind you're mostly talking in past sense now. Today, things seem to be far from the days of Turbo Pascal to me, both in the Microsoft and Borland camps.
In my opinion Microsoft has taken a great leap forward especially with the new compiler in.NET that actually *gasp* is starting to follow standards pretty well. We also cut the size on our compiled files across the board with that one in our flagship product, sometimes as much as halving them compared to Visual C++ 6. And then that compiler didn't even have any significant problems I could notice us or our customers suffering from. So I a renaissance this day is honorable, but also logical to question the value of, especially with the enormous amount of add-on libraries for C++ as opposed to Pascal.
For this particular type of application, Delphi is great. For example - you can get a pointer when you need to, but you don't have to drown yourself with them all the time.
If you believe DNA is what determines human-ness, then all the cellular detritus that you leave scattered about every day is just as human as you are.
Yes, I do believe they're a part of me and therefore human, anything else is simply not true. What else? Being alien? Or do you mean something else with "human"? I agree they're not humane if that's what you're saying...?
You would have to claim that the snot you pick out of your nose has the same human rights as your mother.
No, because my mother is a human with humanity, while my snot is human but with no humane characteristics.
What constitutes human then? The sensible answer is my view (and others) is that it depends upon the thing's ability to be part of a society with other 'humans', and to have qualities such as empathy, self-consciousness and the like which are regarded as human qualities. Without those, a thing is no more human than its DNA might be.
You seem to be saying that if one acts humane, one is human. I'm not sure everyone agree with that these terms are interchangible, and in this case things get a bit complex, since there are several definitions for both words if you look them up, and one of them is that "being human" can mean "having the form of a human" which is probably where this discussion/disagreement probably has its roots in. Since that definition is in direct conflict with "a robot can be human". However, to make matters worse, there are other definitions that don't seem to conflict.:-P
Given how unimportant it really is, it seems quite possible in the future that there will be (human-constructed) things which are human in all the important senses, even if they don't have the same DNA as my toe-nail clippings.
This is another example of definition problems and where I'd like to make a difference between humane and human... I would agree with you that we might have humane beings with non-human DNA (at least not to 100%) in the future, however I wouldn't really want to call a strange robot looking like a box human even if it might have humane qualities. But yeah, it's hard to make a difference and I fully understand you when you say "a human-constructed object can be human". It just depends on which definition of human I'd use if I would agree with you or not.
I'd dare saying it's all a definition question anyway...
Commercials. If advertisers know their audience won't see their commercials, they lose incentive to invest in advertising, and the networks lose money.
Meh.. So they still think people will sit through the commercials like zombies, never switching away from them or using them as a break to do other things.:-P
Yeah, well, this is why I'm probably just going to get Guild Wars instead. No monthly fees, and while it's not a true MMORPG, it's not a true kind of anything else either, but a new kind of genre, or maybe could call it a mix of genres -- MMORPG's and Action RPG's / PvP games.
The focus on the game is to get rid of the grinding aspects in MMORPG's too. I wonder if those parts are really just there for you to stick with their games for a longer time.:-P
Ok, I guess the "please don't submit to high traffic websites" in red wasn't enough, perhaps I should have used <blink> tags;-) Since you are here, please heed the warning that this is at an early stage of development, if you are interested please sign up to our announcement mailing list so that we can let you know when its ready for primetime. Otherwise, we do need testers, so feel free to poke around.
They should learn to use robots.txt files, and as for the other sites, it's those that are infringing on copyrights, not Google so if they should sue any, it's the wrong company. But, of course, Google probably have more money they can try to get.:-P
Google should just say "oh, sorry we listed you incorrectly" and block their domain.:-P
The court ruled that the device doesn't violate the federal Wiretap Act because it only intercepted signals off a keyboard cable, not an interstate network
Who cares about the source of the signals. It *do* send the intercepted signals over an interstate network. But I guess that doesn't matter...
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Yeah, considering how much of a target their site may become, they should considering digitally signing their EXE. Windows nowadays supports digitally signed EXE files.
Or maybe it's just a joke -- can you ever tell?
Yes, since it's working now again, it was probably unintentional.
Hey, what's wrong with the interface??
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... and why would AOL want to do this? :-/
Which is great ... until Jane Soccermom stumbles upon a website that detects the browser and instructs the user to turn it on for "optimal performance". Jane Soccermom flips the switch, worm says thank you in its special ActiveX way, chaos ensues...
If he couldn't do this with Netscape, he'd just switch to Microsoft's browser. What do you feel is better?
They did support the Mozilla development environment for a good many years for like 0 profit
Actually did far more than that...
They donated $2 million to the Mozilla Foundation to get them going and willingly donated the mozilla.org domain name, the Mozilla-related trademarks, and related equipment such as the mozilla.org servers, to Mozilla Foundation. They was obliged to do none of this, just having purchased Netscape and got all this along with them.
See also this story.
The scouring of the shrie is NOT in the EE due to dramatic pacing for the big screen (according to Jackson) ~and~ considerations regarding length.
Huh? EE on big screen? You must be talking about the version for the theaters, not EE.
Oh, and by the way, I realize Gentoo offers greater customizability, I was mostly just commenting on what you said about being hell bent on throwing everything in. I think these new distros are great for people who don't really care about spending time to customize every little detail and is just looking for a package without a lot of junk inside so one can download it from the internet instead, if one really needs something. Like you do with most other operating systems besides the Linux-based ones. :-)
I like Gentoo for its customisability. All the other distros are hell bent on throwing in everything which is great, but uses up so much RAM. I've seen SuSE use a full gig before just running KDE. With Gentoo I can leave all the little things I don't want out.
:-S I like distros to have a goal to be only on one CD. Usually stability and user friendless come more easily from that as well, since there's less that can go wrong and less options to confuse the user.
:-) I can choose to run it off CD and get an excellent rescue disk that way with on-the-fly NTFS and SATA support, and also automatic network configuration. And if I like it enough, like I did, I can just install it on disk and it still has everything I can ask for from a basic OS as a normal user. It felt funny to install the OS from within the OS. :-)
:-P
No.
Distros to fill in this gap has become more and more common lately. See also Knoppix, Mepis, and Ubuntu. It's almost like a new generation of Linux distros taking form, and I personally like those better than the Lindows abomination.
I'm now using Mepis as a Linux amateur and it's great!
And if I need more, it's an excellent Debian-based distro I can use simple apt-get commands or even simpler installer GUIs if I like it that way. Has been rock solid so far, as opposed to Mandrake 10 after around 5 days of regular use.
Suddenly, multi-CD (or even multi-DVD *gasp*) distros feel so... yesterday.
Well, after how many years?
Does that matter when we're talking Delpi 2005?
We aren't comparing Turbo C with an early version of Visual C.
And then whole new proprietary languages like C# at the same time...
They're preserving and improving C++ support. Don't care about C# if you don't wish to care.
The marketing goal is to capture developers, yes?
Yes, as with all companies, including Borland.
The more bells and whistles the better
I'm sure you'll find the same in Delphi 2005. Heck, they're even applying the Microsoft Versioning Scheme(tm).
It was, and still is, probably the wrong strategy for a commercial company.
Why do you believe that is the wrong strategy?
I fully agree that technical quality is a very nice thing to have, but I'm just questioning how much they'll achieve with a release like this. How are they going to convince the Visual C++ devs that their product is significantly better? It's easy if you compare Firefox with IE as there are major notable improvements while IE is almost daily suffering from security problems. But in this case I don't see a reason to shout "wow" even if I'm interested in developer IDE's. I've even tried Delphi in the past, but didn't see why I should learn Pascal when it seems like 95% of all developers use either Java, VB or C++ today.
Is that including the .net runtime that you have to distribute in addition to your compiled files?
.NET runtimes required as I don't use the .NET libraries.
I wasn't talking about managed code, just regular C++. So there are no
Java doesn't HAVE pointers. No pointers at all. That's the point about Java.
Java supports JNI, right?
But yes, it's not part of the main language, although JNI is used quite frequently in the core libraries if you look.
Not sure 'bout C#, but then again, I don't care
I can assure you C# has pointers "if you need them".
Keep in mind you're mostly talking in past sense now. Today, things seem to be far from the days of Turbo Pascal to me, both in the Microsoft and Borland camps.
.NET that actually *gasp* is starting to follow standards pretty well. We also cut the size on our compiled files across the board with that one in our flagship product, sometimes as much as halving them compared to Visual C++ 6. And then that compiler didn't even have any significant problems I could notice us or our customers suffering from. So I a renaissance this day is honorable, but also logical to question the value of, especially with the enormous amount of add-on libraries for C++ as opposed to Pascal.
In my opinion Microsoft has taken a great leap forward especially with the new compiler in
For this particular type of application, Delphi is great. For example - you can get a pointer when you need to, but you don't have to drown yourself with them all the time.
You mean like in Java and C#?
If you believe DNA is what determines human-ness, then all the cellular detritus that you leave scattered about every day is just as human as you are.
:-P
Yes, I do believe they're a part of me and therefore human, anything else is simply not true. What else? Being alien? Or do you mean something else with "human"? I agree they're not humane if that's what you're saying...?
You would have to claim that the snot you pick out of your nose has the same human rights as your mother.
No, because my mother is a human with humanity, while my snot is human but with no humane characteristics.
What constitutes human then? The sensible answer is my view (and others) is that it depends upon the thing's ability to be part of a society with other 'humans', and to have qualities such as empathy, self-consciousness and the like which are regarded as human qualities. Without those, a thing is no more human than its DNA might be.
You seem to be saying that if one acts humane, one is human. I'm not sure everyone agree with that these terms are interchangible, and in this case things get a bit complex, since there are several definitions for both words if you look them up, and one of them is that "being human" can mean "having the form of a human" which is probably where this discussion/disagreement probably has its roots in. Since that definition is in direct conflict with "a robot can be human". However, to make matters worse, there are other definitions that don't seem to conflict.
Given how unimportant it really is, it seems quite possible in the future that there will be (human-constructed) things which are human in all the important senses, even if they don't have the same DNA as my toe-nail clippings.
This is another example of definition problems and where I'd like to make a difference between humane and human... I would agree with you that we might have humane beings with non-human DNA (at least not to 100%) in the future, however I wouldn't really want to call a strange robot looking like a box human even if it might have humane qualities. But yeah, it's hard to make a difference and I fully understand you when you say "a human-constructed object can be human". It just depends on which definition of human I'd use if I would agree with you or not.
I'd dare saying it's all a definition question anyway...
Get the fabricator to fabricate itself
universe panic: stack overflow
Here I come, naked and petrified miss Portman!
Or are you saying it can make living things?!
Wow, I think that's dangerously close a geek's sex fantasy.
Jeez, sometimes Slashdot readers are blind and zealous like headless chickens...
1. The patch they tried to update with wasn't a complete one for an OS upgrade.
2. Then they deployed it to their entire network by mistake.
This interesting piece of information can be gathered by RTFA.
I wonder what would happen to, say, Linux boxes if they had 60,000 and they applied an incomplete kernel patch?
Maybe some... thing... would panic?
Commercials. If advertisers know their audience won't see their commercials, they lose incentive to invest in advertising, and the networks lose money.
:-P
Meh.. So they still think people will sit through the commercials like zombies, never switching away from them or using them as a break to do other things.
Yeah, well, this is why I'm probably just going to get Guild Wars instead. No monthly fees, and while it's not a true MMORPG, it's not a true kind of anything else either, but a new kind of genre, or maybe could call it a mix of genres -- MMORPG's and Action RPG's / PvP games.
:-P
The focus on the game is to get rid of the grinding aspects in MMORPG's too. I wonder if those parts are really just there for you to stick with their games for a longer time.
They should learn to use robots.txt files, and as for the other sites, it's those that are infringing on copyrights, not Google so if they should sue any, it's the wrong company. But, of course, Google probably have more money they can try to get. :-P
:-P
Google should just say "oh, sorry we listed you incorrectly" and block their domain.
The court ruled that the device doesn't violate the federal Wiretap Act because it only intercepted signals off a keyboard cable, not an interstate network
Who cares about the source of the signals. It *do* send the intercepted signals over an interstate network. But I guess that doesn't matter...
Who is at fault here, the company for paying low wages or the people for accepting them?
:-)
You mean...
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
Hey, his post was useful to the majority of Slashdot readers (who ignore the actual article).