The least NASA wants right now is further Shuttle problems -- imagine what another severe shuttle problem would do to the entire NASA program and funding now. And if they are to be cautious I think it was surprising that given the doubts they had from staff (that happened to be related to their security as well), when they have already gone through all these months of preparations. It will likely add for some increased costs, sure, but I'm sure the public won't care and take it as a sign of weakness or something, but rather the opposite.
Yep, see also Firefox and Opera for moreexamples of this mindset. I think it's a decent solution. Those not including a DOCTYPE were hardly understanding exactly what they were coding for anyway, and then it's a pretty darn tough job for a web browser to act a mind reader.
Of course, the Lawful Evil solution would be to pop up a message saing "Invalid HTML document" if no DOCTYPE was present.
... and watch your browser's usage share plummet.:-p
It's great that IE7 users are getting some UI hotness
Why do you neglect all the dozens of CSS fixes made in IE 7? To make your point more easily? To ignore that they felt their resources is better diverted at CSS now than XHTML? Many web developers coding in "XHTML" even belives it's mostly just a matter of casing your tags properly, which it's not. I really think layouts on web pages are more important for a web browser than following a reformulation of HTML in XML. Sure, the latter can be useful for e.g mobile devices with more limited parsers, but which kind of device do you believe is most common to read web pages on?
Maybe a comment from Microsoft themselves on this topic would also be of interest to some:
In that vein, Ive seen a lot of comments asking if we will pass the Acid2 browser test published by the Web Standards Project when IE7 ships. Ill go ahead and relieve the suspense by saying we will not pass this test when IE7 ships. The original Acid Test tested only the CSS 1 box model, and actually became part of the W3C CSS1 Test Suite since it was a fairly narrow test but the Acid 2 Test covers a wide set of functionality and standards, not just from CSS2.1 and HTML 4.01, selected by the authors as a wish list of features theyd like to have. Its pointedly not a compliance test (from the Test Guide: Acid2 does not guarantee conformance with any specification). As a wish list, it is really important and useful to my team, but it isnt even intended, in my understanding, as our priority list for IE7.
Source (that also contains a brief summary of the most important fixed in IE7)
Seriously, people have been trying to make good object identification from picture systems for as long as there have been pictures stored on computers. It has never worked very well.
So, what are you saying people doing research in these fields should do?
Illegalized P2P won't stop piracy by FTP or e.g simple "friend-to-friend" physical sharing, so they of course have to stop other "loopholes" by taxing?
Linux users will say you can get that stuff for free (watch the demo of Novell Linux 10 with xgl, it demonstrates all the cool windows effects MS is saying will be in Vista, and then some)
Vista may not end up being the best thing since sliced bread, but let's act as introduced geeks on the subject and not compare Vista to xgl.
xgl is a layer for the window manager, Vista is an operating system. Graphics subsystem. Operating system. Apples. Oranges.
I mean, does xgl come with the BitLocker technology? Does it let Linux make use of USB memory sticks as virtual RAM? See also its new features. I know, many features are already shared by Linux distros, but that still doesn't make an xgl <-> Vista comparison any less idiotic. Compare with Aero as you like, but not Vista. You don't compare KDE with e.g a full distro often, now do you?
I don't understand how such major flaws in an argument can give a +5 Insightful.
Doesn't that mean that porting those games to other platforms would end up being very difficult, and if you wanted to play games on your PC, you practically needed Windows (well, that's true even today, but the reasons for that are elsewhere).
Yes, but Windows is hardly a gaming platform monopoly. Consoles seem to be holding their ground pretty well, and many game developers these days simply give Windows the finger and makes pretty big profits.
The full Windows XP lifetime doesn't apply to updates not essential to run the OS itself well, so DirectX has little to do with Microsoft's lifecycle policies beyond the mainstream support. This ends at earliest this year; 5 years after the product has been released. After this, the product enters the extended support phase, but then mostly just security updates and paid support is available. Customers can find out this policy before purchasing any Windows version to decide what OS is right for them and if Windows is appropriate for their scenario at all.
The Windows XP end of life has not been decided according to their pages, and is not necessarily in 2009.
I'm also a bit unsure of exactly why hardware upgrades requires some sort of obligation by the vendor to have their software be backwards compatible? (your opinions about this matter seem to go in that direction) Do you believe this because it is proprietary software? Would you not ask for this if it was an open source OS? Is the obligation a moral one? Proprietary software ethics? But in that case, do you also request that computer game and software applications should scale back well to support older hardware because otherwise they'd be doing an immoral act of breaking functionality with older hardware? Or does this only apply to proprietary operating systems, like Windows and Mac OS?
Microsoft still has an obligation to (legal) users of XP.
Oh, so they still have?
Where is the formula to decide how much service depending on product cost a company should give to their consumers?
Because Microsoft has already supported their XP users for years in non-essential software to use the OS. For how much longer should they do so? Many here seem to know the answer because they seem to say Microsoft is doing something wrong here. Please don't leave out the details for me and give me the date.
If this was essential updates and about security, stability, and so on, the answer would be simple: during the product lifetime that Microsoft sets up for all their operating systems. But this is glitz to play some new games.
Agreed these are good years, especially for adventure gaming.:-)
Also... - Day of the Tentacle, 1993 - Sam & Max, 1993 - Legend of Kyrandia, 1992-1994 - Simon the Sorcerer, 1993 - Myst, 1993
But not just that genre, how about: - DOOM - X-Wing - Pirates! - Syndicate ( I hope you didn't miss this one!:-) ) - X-COM - Frontier: Elite 2 (some purists didn't like it, but I did)
A funny aspect of this is that these games look pretty old and bland in effects and such things, but then you consider Jurassic Park with its realistic dinosaurs and breakthrough in CGI was also done in 1993 and the mind boggles a bit.
Over time, people caring about their privacy will maybe just move to socialize on anonymous and encrypted networks.
But then I can already see the news headlines...
Local Network of 34 Terrorist Suspects Arrested
The suspected terrorists were allegedly using an anonymous network to actively avoid law enforcement agencies, blah, blah, blah.
- "We cannot comment on the situation that has developed and ongoing investigations, but we are looking very seriously at the situation", police officer John Doe said.
These networks have been known to be used by terrrorists and paedophiles alike, and are frequently used to cover digital tracks left on the Internet.
Nevermind that cleaning your tracks can be preferred by some simply because law enforcements have no rights to mess with your life with no suspicions of crime. And if you get into that deep shit, I wonder how easy it is to get out. Since they may not have *seen* the traffic that passed, it's pretty hard for you to also prove that nothing bad did pass and wasn't just deleted or transferred further away since.
That would only happen if isps were to begin doing image-recognition/manual looking at all images sent through email... the first is probably technically possible but doubtfully legal, and the second is physically impossible
If they try to be "smart" about it, they'll try to check image similarities, in order to e.g find the same images with various amounts of JPEG compression applied to them. (when common images spread throughout a community, they always seem to somehow get various JPEG (re)compressions, become resized, etc:-p)
And then they could cause an innocent user to fall into this trap, at least if they don't manually verify that it's not child porn.
I think the grandparent comment is quite valid when discussing these things, and easily things that can ruin your career pretty good. No one wants to hire a former paedophile suspect. That person would just be too fishy.
It's not an easy problem to solve though. Even if it was a picture of your own kid in a bathtub, the police could go "omgwtf" and come knock on your door when seeing fully naked genitals in an "amateur" and home environment. I'm really not sure how to protect people from the horrors of being suspected for these things when innocent. The punishment could be as bad as for a real paedophile, minus the jailtime.
Stockpile of what? Not actual nuclear weapons anyway.
It's like stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons by creating a stockpile of blueprints telling what various nuclear weapon looks like so they can easier be detected.
So you basically don't care about whether a child was abused? Instead, you convict people who might be helping themselves with this fake child porn, who would otherwise turn to real child porn?
So actually, you are not for the children, but against child porn (even fake) consumers. Interesting..
Why do you assume he shares these views just because of commenting on the legal status of that stuff?
Try to picture seeing an ad that doesn't inform well, but try to use patriotism and that it's free to get you to download it as a substitute for information. To me that would just seem like a hell of a suspicious piece of software. Did the designers really try to put themselves into the same mindset as the readers? Additionally, keep in mind that many may already own a copy of MS Office, so the money has either already been spent, or they don't care about piracy in that case. So saying it's a free office suite that the men of Mt. Rushmore would use may not be overly convincing to those. Now, maybe if they listed exclusive features the story would change.
And don't be so desperate and play on people's patriotism, please! You aren't a virgin trying to get laid on prom night here.
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It's a sad day when MS actually have to go out in the press and deny a story that lacked foundation in facts in the first place.
The least NASA wants right now is further Shuttle problems -- imagine what another severe shuttle problem would do to the entire NASA program and funding now. And if they are to be cautious I think it was surprising that given the doubts they had from staff (that happened to be related to their security as well), when they have already gone through all these months of preparations. It will likely add for some increased costs, sure, but I'm sure the public won't care and take it as a sign of weakness or something, but rather the opposite.
Of course, the Lawful Evil solution would be to pop up a message saing "Invalid HTML document" if no DOCTYPE was present.
Why do you neglect all the dozens of CSS fixes made in IE 7? To make your point more easily? To ignore that they felt their resources is better diverted at CSS now than XHTML? Many web developers coding in "XHTML" even belives it's mostly just a matter of casing your tags properly, which it's not. I really think layouts on web pages are more important for a web browser than following a reformulation of HTML in XML. Sure, the latter can be useful for e.g mobile devices with more limited parsers, but which kind of device do you believe is most common to read web pages on?
Like XPS?
Or maybe XAML?
Yes, it's a bit funny, especially since those two technologies are definitely something IE 7 might have integrated support for.
Hmm.. I bet the parent is using an encryption to turn Arab terrorist plans into plain English.
Damn, we need to crack that message before this timer runs out! >>> 5:32 <<<
Source (that also contains a brief summary of the most important fixed in IE7)
Simple: because Microsoft developed Flight Simulator.
:-p
See also: Why is the Windows Explorer integrated with Internet Explorer.
Hehe... "Designed some levels, did a little game design"...
He was the lead designer of Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, and Quake and co-founder of id Software.
Lead designers are kinda important for these projects and influence the gameplay quite a bit.
But conversely, it's not enough with just one decent lead designer when making a game, as Daikatana showed.
So, what are you saying people doing research in these fields should do?
Illegalized P2P won't stop piracy by FTP or e.g simple "friend-to-friend" physical sharing, so they of course have to stop other "loopholes" by taxing?
Vista may not end up being the best thing since sliced bread, but let's act as introduced geeks on the subject and not compare Vista to xgl.
xgl is a layer for the window manager, Vista is an operating system. Graphics subsystem. Operating system. Apples. Oranges.
I mean, does xgl come with the BitLocker technology? Does it let Linux make use of USB memory sticks as virtual RAM? See also its new features. I know, many features are already shared by Linux distros, but that still doesn't make an xgl <-> Vista comparison any less idiotic. Compare with Aero as you like, but not Vista. You don't compare KDE with e.g a full distro often, now do you?
I don't understand how such major flaws in an argument can give a +5 Insightful.
No wait, it was defending Linux.
Nevermind.
Yes, but Windows is hardly a gaming platform monopoly. Consoles seem to be holding their ground pretty well, and many game developers these days simply give Windows the finger and makes pretty big profits.
The full Windows XP lifetime doesn't apply to updates not essential to run the OS itself well, so DirectX has little to do with Microsoft's lifecycle policies beyond the mainstream support. This ends at earliest this year; 5 years after the product has been released. After this, the product enters the extended support phase, but then mostly just security updates and paid support is available. Customers can find out this policy before purchasing any Windows version to decide what OS is right for them and if Windows is appropriate for their scenario at all.
The Windows XP end of life has not been decided according to their pages, and is not necessarily in 2009.
I'm also a bit unsure of exactly why hardware upgrades requires some sort of obligation by the vendor to have their software be backwards compatible? (your opinions about this matter seem to go in that direction) Do you believe this because it is proprietary software? Would you not ask for this if it was an open source OS? Is the obligation a moral one? Proprietary software ethics? But in that case, do you also request that computer game and software applications should scale back well to support older hardware because otherwise they'd be doing an immoral act of breaking functionality with older hardware? Or does this only apply to proprietary operating systems, like Windows and Mac OS?
Microsoft still has an obligation to (legal) users of XP.
Oh, so they still have?
Where is the formula to decide how much service depending on product cost a company should give to their consumers?
Because Microsoft has already supported their XP users for years in non-essential software to use the OS. For how much longer should they do so? Many here seem to know the answer because they seem to say Microsoft is doing something wrong here. Please don't leave out the details for me and give me the date.
If this was essential updates and about security, stability, and so on, the answer would be simple: during the product lifetime that Microsoft sets up for all their operating systems. But this is glitz to play some new games.
The compensation may come in reduced prices as the price of bandwidth isn't 100% theirs and doesn't need to be covered by the video costs.
I played Star Control 2 too, back then with a class mate in some furious battles. :-)
But the parent I replied to already brought it up so I just didn't bring it up.
Agreed these are good years, especially for adventure gaming. :-)
:-) )
Also...
- Day of the Tentacle, 1993
- Sam & Max, 1993
- Legend of Kyrandia, 1992-1994
- Simon the Sorcerer, 1993
- Myst, 1993
But not just that genre, how about:
- DOOM
- X-Wing
- Pirates!
- Syndicate ( I hope you didn't miss this one!
- X-COM
- Frontier: Elite 2 (some purists didn't like it, but I did)
A funny aspect of this is that these games look pretty old and bland in effects and such things, but then you consider Jurassic Park with its realistic dinosaurs and breakthrough in CGI was also done in 1993 and the mind boggles a bit.
Over time, people caring about their privacy will maybe just move to socialize on anonymous and encrypted networks.
But then I can already see the news headlines...
Local Network of 34 Terrorist Suspects Arrested
The suspected terrorists were allegedly using an anonymous network to actively avoid law enforcement agencies, blah, blah, blah.
- "We cannot comment on the situation that has developed and ongoing investigations, but we are looking very seriously at the situation", police officer John Doe said.
These networks have been known to be used by terrrorists and paedophiles alike, and are frequently used to cover digital tracks left on the Internet.
Nevermind that cleaning your tracks can be preferred by some simply because law enforcements have no rights to mess with your life with no suspicions of crime. And if you get into that deep shit, I wonder how easy it is to get out. Since they may not have *seen* the traffic that passed, it's pretty hard for you to also prove that nothing bad did pass and wasn't just deleted or transferred further away since.
If they try to be "smart" about it, they'll try to check image similarities, in order to e.g find the same images with various amounts of JPEG compression applied to them. (when common images spread throughout a community, they always seem to somehow get various JPEG (re)compressions, become resized, etc
And then they could cause an innocent user to fall into this trap, at least if they don't manually verify that it's not child porn.
I think the grandparent comment is quite valid when discussing these things, and easily things that can ruin your career pretty good. No one wants to hire a former paedophile suspect. That person would just be too fishy.
It's not an easy problem to solve though. Even if it was a picture of your own kid in a bathtub, the police could go "omgwtf" and come knock on your door when seeing fully naked genitals in an "amateur" and home environment. I'm really not sure how to protect people from the horrors of being suspected for these things when innocent. The punishment could be as bad as for a real paedophile, minus the jailtime.
Stockpile of what? Not actual nuclear weapons anyway.
It's like stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons by creating a stockpile of blueprints telling what various nuclear weapon looks like so they can easier be detected.
Why do you assume he shares these views just because of commenting on the legal status of that stuff?
4chan you say? I guess the ORLY owl was a bit too much for their tastes? ;-)
HD-DVD: Expensive, higher res, more storage, etc. FAILURE?
Why is so many assuming they will stay very expensive?
Anyone remember what CD's and DVD's cost in the beginning?
Not to mention their respective recorders.
Try to picture seeing an ad that doesn't inform well, but try to use patriotism and that it's free to get you to download it as a substitute for information. To me that would just seem like a hell of a suspicious piece of software. Did the designers really try to put themselves into the same mindset as the readers? Additionally, keep in mind that many may already own a copy of MS Office, so the money has either already been spent, or they don't care about piracy in that case. So saying it's a free office suite that the men of Mt. Rushmore would use may not be overly convincing to those. Now, maybe if they listed exclusive features the story would change.
And don't be so desperate and play on people's patriotism, please! You aren't a virgin trying to get laid on prom night here.