Most of the windows licences must be void then, I sure didn't see any license before I bought my laptop (the only windows license I own). But as far as I remember all you got is a you must agree to the license included before installing this software.
Sure I am not aggainst this, I think this is the way of linux success first in the enterprise servers, then to their desktops and finaly into the homes of the employees. But I don't think this should be in detriment of the other users. As many have stated those joystiks and music drivers are optional parts of the kernel. Just don't compile them and you have a slimer kernel.
Linux kernel is extremely flexible and there is room for everyone, let's embrace all people instead of dividing them into different sects. If linus start giving his blessing to joystiks, sound cards and other gimmicks soon I can see a fork happening, and this is bad for everyone.
They should then hire them and pay their accounts. It is as aimple as that, if you expect to be able demand them how they should expend their time, hire them. But good luck expecting that they will stay as maintainers if they sudenly forget about a hole part of the comunity who expect to run linux on their desktop.
how can you be sure that there isn't a sticker in the wrap of this camera that basicly says "all your base are belong to us"?? Many manual have small letters on them now, and for what I see happening is just getting worst. Your coffe can be free now, but if I were you I woudn't upgrade it to the 2.0 version before reading the little sticker on the wrap...:-D
No seriously, I was just pointing out that the fact that they selled you the hardware don't mean that they are not requiring to agree with a license agreement, that covers the software inside, before using it.
ou have millions of sites, but you do not have millions of users requesting all those sites. Usually you won't need much more than a few site per minute for each user you have, and many of them will be of large sites that you will probably have cached in your DNS.
TTL and cache is significative for DNS that are in the lower part of the DNS tree. If there were no caches every request would end up in one of the root servers and this would be (very?) serious.
They can sell you the camera (hardware) and licence the software that runs in it. It is the same with your computer, you have the hardware but all the software in it is licensed from another party (even if the license is open source one, like GPL or BSD).
In these days of darkness you don't own nothing, every single thing arrond is licensed and has terms of use. You can't take it apart and remount it, make it do what you want. You are not free.
I was under the impression that word also get the page definition based in the installed printer, so your page can mysteriously completely re-flow in a computer with a different printer.
But this problem with the styles is even worst, it is confusing to the user that don't know about them, and for a program that claims to be the easiest thing in the world this should be done as a default.
No one said they do not exchange or refund you, they are simply stating that they are making the users the tester.
1. skip the test phase 2. Let the user complain and exchange faulty item by a wroking one. 3. profit...:-)
The falty ram would get to the trash anyway, in this way they are skiping a pricy test phase and given the burden (and anoyance) to the user and who knows the user may even not notice the problem until is too late to return the bad memory...:-P
Well acording to a friend of mine (I don't use word or OO) that works in a printing bureau he have nigthmares about printing.doc. The point is that even a word from another computer is unable to handle and render the contents of a file consistent with what the user wants. He states that he always have to review the content with the user, when he prints a word document.
cool.:-) It's always nice to see my own culture being apreciated by foreingers.:-D I, myself, do not know much capoeira, but it is a very beautiful dance (I am not sure how effective it is as martial art though).
And that's what is all about in the end, controll every one (if you only have the resources)? If this is all about it I woudn't blame half of the world for hating you.
Iraq was a bad idea from start, just to help some companies to make a few bucks and the spetacular capture of Saddam that surely helped Bush win a second term. Now you're in a no-win situation, if you leave Iraq the country will most surely turn to chaos in no time, if you stay more americans will die and more dollars will go into ocupation forces. I am sure that this will take much more time until you can finaly leave Iraq.
<irony>Well at least Bush was reelected so the war was not tottaly in vain... </irony>
But at least they are found and fixed, you think that is better to wait until some evil dude with time on his hands to decompile your program and discover the problems? The more secrets you have in your design, more points of failure in your security system. The best pratice is to have the less secrecy possible and use this secret as little as possible.
As for staying on top of the patches MS is no diferent, an unpatched windows cannot survive much in the wild.
Do you think the US would face china, india or any other strong countrie directly? I doubt it. And the inverse is also true, I don't think is a direct interest in creating a war for neither china and much less for india. I would expect a second cold war in the worst case.
out of curiosity, where did you taken your nick from? I would swear it is from a fellow Brasilian.:-)
Somewhere in my edit frenzy I lost the part where I said that I agree with you, that this is surely an effective way to disable your enemy. But so is nuking everyother city, there is probably a middle ground somewhere. To me this middle ground is "don't go to war, try to reach an agreement" ^_^
The US is not about to enter no lasting war, in fact it avoids this with all it's powers. To my understanding a "clean" war now and then is very helpful to pump the popularity of the current US president (be it Bush, Clinton or any other I can remember). A long standing war is a burden, since this would imply in too many american casualities, so the popular opinion starts to change.
I'm not sure how able this special unity will be at disabling the said infrastructures, but assuming that it could I can surely seen CNN advertising that this is a humanitarian way to solve the problem, while in my opinion is just the inverse. It will first affect all the civilians to then start affecting the military.
Atacking civil infrastructuer will cause many, many civil casualities and probably none at the militar camp. Remeber that military are prepared for acting in adverse conditions, civil hospitals, trafic, trains are not. This to me sounds much more like terrorism.
All of this, and the funny part is that every time they release a new technology they limit it more and more, while on the corner you will have a black market that has the same content without all the problems you get from the official versions. Sure some of the rips will be of a lower quality, more compression or maybe bootleged from a movie theather, but still it will work with your equipment.
There was a case here in Brasil a few years back, a company have launched a dictionary software that has a very intrusive copy protection. This protection would fail regurlarly on paying customers, who had to reinstall (only possible a few times, after that he should call the publisher). Meanwhile the pirated version have hitted the street almost at the same time, who ever had the pirated version had no problem and the program worked as it should.
My vision is that this and other Digital Restrictions (DRM) will come to this end. Paying custumers will have huge headaches while non-payed "pirated" will work flawlessly.
A little bit off topic pehaps, but anyway, is it just me or they are reviving the ducks... ops, dragons from the atari 2600 adventure game? I woundn't like to be a square near that thing, at least not without my slaying-duck arrow.:-D
I disagree with you, finished paint give you much more information to people to copy or base new art on it then a binary. This is so true that there is a real problem with falsification, some flase paints are so close to the original that only an expert can tell them apart.
A binary only distribution don't give society nothing (or very little) of value, and even this very little is being thought by the big evil corporations (see all the reverse engeniering is evil vibe you get from them). If you're going to recieve protection from the goverment and laws, you should at least give some back to the society that this goverment and laws should be protecting. This should be at least in the form of enabling the average joe to reverse engenier the code as he wish, and in utopian worlds in the form of open-source.
The Brazillian people will use what the Brazillian government give them, and couldn't give a fuck what operating system they use.
Well I am not 100% sure about that. My guess is that many of those cheap machines will have it's linux erased to install a pirated version of windows. Here in Rio de Janeiro the lower classes are not completely illiterate in computers, or at least is not much more then the middle and upper class.
Also the "pirate industry" is a way of many of those poor and unemployed people to make a buck in the informal market (very strong here). So I would guess that there is many people in the background of this market that are quite comfortable with computers and windows. But I could be wrong, this is based in my uninformed observation though.
The good thing is that even if there is only a few (say 10%) that stay with linux, this will open the minds of the people that there is an alternative.
Kernel modules and kernel bundling and updates are one thing that I don't like in fedora. Also I think the grand-parent meant that if you add a package to ignore list in the applet, this action does not appear in the system-wide ignore list fo updates.
I already have most of the keys I need installed. Sure there is a possibility of installing a fake key, if you need a package from a repository in the first time. but since each user will do this operation only once, this is much more unlikely to happen as it is now.
And as you mentioned in the future a web of trust could be stablished. Sure it can be tricky to make this easy to use, all security issues are somewhat hard to use (almost by definition). How to convince users not to use a simple password? How to make them not entring their Credit card information or ebay password in a random site that he received by email?
It is hard, but should we giveup just because it is hard? Autopackage simply ignore those issues and for me this is not acceptable. Sure it is simpler, but at what cost?
MS is trying to introduce this "starter edition" in Brasil because the goverment is planing in creating a cheap computer to connect the lower classes to the internet. This sheap computer is planed to be shipped with linux, but MS is trying to convince the goverment that this "crippled edition" is better.
The best quote I heard from a goverment official is that the Brasilian goverment will not help to stablish the MS monopoly.
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Most of the windows licences must be void then, I sure didn't see any license before I bought my laptop (the only windows license I own). But as far as I remember all you got is a you must agree to the license included before installing this software.
Sure I am not aggainst this, I think this is the way of linux success first in the enterprise servers, then to their desktops and finaly into the homes of the employees. But I don't think this should be in detriment of the other users. As many have stated those joystiks and music drivers are optional parts of the kernel. Just don't compile them and you have a slimer kernel.
Linux kernel is extremely flexible and there is room for everyone, let's embrace all people instead of dividing them into different sects. If linus start giving his blessing to joystiks, sound cards and other gimmicks soon I can see a fork happening, and this is bad for everyone.
They should then hire them and pay their accounts. It is as aimple as that, if you expect to be able demand them how they should expend their time, hire them. But good luck expecting that they will stay as maintainers if they sudenly forget about a hole part of the comunity who expect to run linux on their desktop.
how can you be sure that there isn't a sticker in the wrap of this camera that basicly says "all your base are belong to us"?? Many manual have small letters on them now, and for what I see happening is just getting worst. Your coffe can be free now, but if I were you I woudn't upgrade it to the 2.0 version before reading the little sticker on the wrap... :-D
No seriously, I was just pointing out that the fact that they selled you the hardware don't mean that they are not requiring to agree with a license agreement, that covers the software inside, before using it.
ou have millions of sites, but you do not have millions of users requesting all those sites. Usually you won't need much more than a few site per minute for each user you have, and many of them will be of large sites that you will probably have cached in your DNS.
TTL and cache is significative for DNS that are in the lower part of the DNS tree. If there were no caches every request would end up in one of the root servers and this would be (very?) serious.
They can sell you the camera (hardware) and licence the software that runs in it. It is the same with your computer, you have the hardware but all the software in it is licensed from another party (even if the license is open source one, like GPL or BSD).
In these days of darkness you don't own nothing, every single thing arrond is licensed and has terms of use. You can't take it apart and remount it, make it do what you want. You are not free.
I was under the impression that word also get the page definition based in the installed printer, so your page can mysteriously completely re-flow in a computer with a different printer.
But this problem with the styles is even worst, it is confusing to the user that don't know about them, and for a program that claims to be the easiest thing in the world this should be done as a default.
No one said they do not exchange or refund you, they are simply stating that they are making the users the tester.
:-)
:-P
1. skip the test phase
2. Let the user complain and exchange faulty item by a wroking one.
3. profit...
The falty ram would get to the trash anyway, in this way they are skiping a pricy test phase and given the burden (and anoyance) to the user and who knows the user may even not notice the problem until is too late to return the bad memory...
Well acording to a friend of mine (I don't use word or OO) that works in a printing bureau he have nigthmares about printing .doc. The point is that even a word from another computer is unable to handle and render the contents of a file consistent with what the user wants. He states that he always have to review the content with the user, when he prints a word document.
cool. :-) It's always nice to see my own culture being apreciated by foreingers. :-D I, myself, do not know much capoeira, but it is a very beautiful dance (I am not sure how effective it is as martial art though).
And that's what is all about in the end, controll every one (if you only have the resources)? If this is all about it I woudn't blame half of the world for hating you.
Iraq was a bad idea from start, just to help some companies to make a few bucks and the spetacular capture of Saddam that surely helped Bush win a second term. Now you're in a no-win situation, if you leave Iraq the country will most surely turn to chaos in no time, if you stay more americans will die and more dollars will go into ocupation forces. I am sure that this will take much more time until you can finaly leave Iraq.
<irony>Well at least Bush was reelected so the war was not tottaly in vain... </irony>
But at least they are found and fixed, you think that is better to wait until some evil dude with time on his hands to decompile your program and discover the problems? The more secrets you have in your design, more points of failure in your security system. The best pratice is to have the less secrecy possible and use this secret as little as possible.
As for staying on top of the patches MS is no diferent, an unpatched windows cannot survive much in the wild.
Do you think the US would face china, india or any other strong countrie directly? I doubt it. And the inverse is also true, I don't think is a direct interest in creating a war for neither china and much less for india. I would expect a second cold war in the worst case.
:-)
out of curiosity, where did you taken your nick from? I would swear it is from a fellow Brasilian.
Somewhere in my edit frenzy I lost the part where I said that I agree with you, that this is surely an effective way to disable your enemy. But so is nuking everyother city, there is probably a middle ground somewhere. To me this middle ground is "don't go to war, try to reach an agreement" ^_^
The US is not about to enter no lasting war, in fact it avoids this with all it's powers. To my understanding a "clean" war now and then is very helpful to pump the popularity of the current US president (be it Bush, Clinton or any other I can remember). A long standing war is a burden, since this would imply in too many american casualities, so the popular opinion starts to change.
I'm not sure how able this special unity will be at disabling the said infrastructures, but assuming that it could I can surely seen CNN advertising that this is a humanitarian way to solve the problem, while in my opinion is just the inverse. It will first affect all the civilians to then start affecting the military.
Atacking civil infrastructuer will cause many, many civil casualities and probably none at the militar camp. Remeber that military are prepared for acting in adverse conditions, civil hospitals, trafic, trains are not. This to me sounds much more like terrorism.
Easier said then done. It's very hard to vote someone out. The money of the big spenders count in a big way, much much more then what you can.
All of this, and the funny part is that every time they release a new technology they limit it more and more, while on the corner you will have a black market that has the same content without all the problems you get from the official versions. Sure some of the rips will be of a lower quality, more compression or maybe bootleged from a movie theather, but still it will work with your equipment.
There was a case here in Brasil a few years back, a company have launched a dictionary software that has a very intrusive copy protection. This protection would fail regurlarly on paying customers, who had to reinstall (only possible a few times, after that he should call the publisher). Meanwhile the pirated version have hitted the street almost at the same time, who ever had the pirated version had no problem and the program worked as it should.
My vision is that this and other Digital Restrictions (DRM) will come to this end. Paying custumers will have huge headaches while non-payed "pirated" will work flawlessly.
A little bit off topic pehaps, but anyway, is it just me or they are reviving the ducks... ops, dragons from the atari 2600 adventure game? I woundn't like to be a square near that thing, at least not without my slaying-duck arrow. :-D
I disagree with you, finished paint give you much more information to people to copy or base new art on it then a binary. This is so true that there is a real problem with falsification, some flase paints are so close to the original that only an expert can tell them apart.
A binary only distribution don't give society nothing (or very little) of value, and even this very little is being thought by the big evil corporations (see all the reverse engeniering is evil vibe you get from them). If you're going to recieve protection from the goverment and laws, you should at least give some back to the society that this goverment and laws should be protecting. This should be at least in the form of enabling the average joe to reverse engenier the code as he wish, and in utopian worlds in the form of open-source.
Well I am not 100% sure about that. My guess is that many of those cheap machines will have it's linux erased to install a pirated version of windows. Here in Rio de Janeiro the lower classes are not completely illiterate in computers, or at least is not much more then the middle and upper class.
Also the "pirate industry" is a way of many of those poor and unemployed people to make a buck in the informal market (very strong here). So I would guess that there is many people in the background of this market that are quite comfortable with computers and windows. But I could be wrong, this is based in my uninformed observation though.
The good thing is that even if there is only a few (say 10%) that stay with linux, this will open the minds of the people that there is an alternative.
Kernel modules and kernel bundling and updates are one thing that I don't like in fedora. Also I think the grand-parent meant that if you add a package to ignore list in the applet, this action does not appear in the system-wide ignore list fo updates.
Unless you're in Brazil or Uk where domains usually have 4 levels (www.yourcompany.com.br or www.yourcompany.co.uk).
I already have most of the keys I need installed. Sure there is a possibility of installing a fake key, if you need a package from a repository in the first time. but since each user will do this operation only once, this is much more unlikely to happen as it is now.
And as you mentioned in the future a web of trust could be stablished. Sure it can be tricky to make this easy to use, all security issues are somewhat hard to use (almost by definition). How to convince users not to use a simple password? How to make them not entring their Credit card information or ebay password in a random site that he received by email?
It is hard, but should we giveup just because it is hard? Autopackage simply ignore those issues and for me this is not acceptable. Sure it is simpler, but at what cost?
MS is trying to introduce this "starter edition" in Brasil because the goverment is planing in creating a cheap computer to connect the lower classes to the internet. This sheap computer is planed to be shipped with linux, but MS is trying to convince the goverment that this "crippled edition" is better.
The best quote I heard from a goverment official is that the Brasilian goverment will not help to stablish the MS monopoly.