Never forward messages. The 'evil' JavaScript isn't going to be in an email from your boss asking you to send him some report, is it? Quit forwarding those damn jokes and chain mails and get your lazy ass back to work. As someone who never forwards anything unsolicited to anybody, I don't see how this affects me and, quite honestly, I'm a little shocked that so much of the/. crowd does forward stuff. Aren't you guys just poliferating this shit?
It just occured to me that I can probably remove the 'Forward' button in Outlook (I love MS's cool modifiable toolbars). I'm going to go take that sucker out right now:P
"Wireless communication device with distributed messaging based man-machine interface"
aka, the wireless email client. all that and I only substituted 2 words. I bet we could patent almost anything usefull with just a couple of changed words.
This is absolutely true. I used to work for Lucent Canada. We shared a building with Bell Labs and I got to know a few of the guys there. They showed me all kinds of crazy wacky stuff, including holographic storage. This has been a working technology for many years, but only in the last few has it been able to compete with standard technologies in performance and storage space.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The JVM is not cross-platform at all. It might as well be MS Word. Sure, Word is available for MacOS and has the same feature set, but no one think that it's the same code on both OS's.
My point being that.NET and the CLR are Windows-only, but the potential for them to become available on other platforms is there.
Now, just to add total subjectiveness (is that a word? Is now:P) to this conversation, MS has no reason not to port the framework and runtime to other OS's because it fits with the direction that they are heading. MS makes a lot more money from Office than they do from Windows. If they can deploy Office to every major OS without adding any development overhead they'll make even more money regardless if it hurts their OS sales or not.
That's the difference right there. Sun has nothing to compete with.NET, only C# and the CLR. Read a few of the other posts to find out what.NET itself is.
Well, you said that it can't do anything that can't be done with a computer. That seems like a pretty redundant question considering the topic is about computer software. I just don't understand what the argument is when you say that.
I think a fairer comparison would be to say that.NET can't do anything that can't also be done by the JVM. That's a better argument because it's on topic (unlike this post:P) and if expanded can refute the post at the root of this thread.
In other words, there's nothing here that can't be done with... a computer
Are you saying you expected.NET to do things that a computer can't do? Are you aware that.NET is a piece of computer software? I think your expectations might have been a little bit too high.
Come to think of it, I'm pretty disappointed with Linux 2.4. Everything it does is the same that my computer can do. The stupid kernel can't even make me coffee in the morning! I don't know what all this Linux hype is all about.
What is this supposed to mean? Is it like the schoolyard bully that your mommy tells you not to talk to so you don't "sink down to his level"? That's probably the most arrogant response I've ever seen on/.
FYI, the.NET framework is just as platform neutral as the JVM.
You read the book, take notes and keep track of what pages important things happen on. Then you use that information to allow readers of your book report to access that information faster than reading through the whole book. If the book were 100 000 000 000 pages long, it would be eerily similar. Maybe they'll go after high school English teachers next. yay!
I can't remember all the details, so sombody please correct any mistakes...
A Vancouver court heard a case like this a few years ago. The defendent claimed that his drawings of nude children engaging in sexual activities were both works of art and products of his imagination. While simply being "works of art" isn't a defense (photos can be art, but not if they're of nude children having sex), his argument about being products of his imagination stood up in court.
The court said that while they found the drawings disgusting and that they should be banned, it would be impossible for them to rule that they're illegal because that's one step away from declaring that a person's thoughts are under the control of the law.
In its most common state the Earth has no ice at its poles. The fact that we have adapted to expect Earth to stay the same forever just goes to show how naive we can be. So what if New Orleans sinks into the ocean? It was built on a piece of ground that has been underwater for most of the Earth's lifetime, so why should we expect it not to be underwater again in the future?
The Earth is 4.6 billion years old. Recorded history is only a couple thousand years and much of that is still not understood properly. What will the Earth be like a million years from now? We will most likely be long gone and another civilization will be digging up our remains and making crazy theories about how we lived. I bet they'll never think that we were afraid about spewing toxins into the air when a huge asteroid was hurtling toward us.
the standards-compliant Web, as we know it, will die
The standards-compliant web as I know it isn't very standards-compliant. If it dies, won't that make it even more standards-compliant?
The solution to the controversy...
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Make it law that all email must contain proper headers and that all email from an advertiser must also contain a phone number and mailing address for the company.
Since no normal internet user will forge headers and all legitimate advertisers will have an office, this will not be a problem for anybody except mass spammers. All other email can be sent to a government agency who tracks down the original senders and forces them to read 5000 spam emails every day for 5 years:)
Why do you believe that the only way to stop MS is to break it up? Isn't that anti-capitalist? MS is a huge corp. because they got themselves there. Ok, so if MS breaks up into 5 pieces it may give Linux a big boost, but then Linux will have become popular only because the government hindered MS's ability to do business. If Linux is truly better than Windows, it will win its way into people's hearts the fair way.
I really enjoy living in Canada. Moving here from the US would be really easy because of our lower dollar (for every US doller you have it would be worth ~$1.40 CA).
The UN ranks Canada as the best country in the world to live in and has done so for several years in a row. We have free health care for most basic health needs (not dental). Canada has one of the highest standards of living in the world (i think higher than the US).
For an American, moving to Canada isn't a huge step compared to most other countries. Our culture is very similar and we have access to the same entertainment at the same time.
Having never lived in the US - but visited many times - I can't say Canada is better, but I do know that over the past 100 years I wouldn't have wanted to live anywhere except Canada or the US, so for someone contemplating leaving the US, Canada is the obvious choice.
Not a corporation bent on maximizing profit. Not a monopoly unfairly using its marketshare to bludgeon potential competitors into submission
The Catholic Church is:
1) A corporation bent on maximizing profit (they make billions each year)
2) A near monopoly (in certain parts of the world) that uses its marketshare to force customers into buying into its view and stop all competitors from invading its marketplace.
erm... I don't really want to start an argument here, so I'm done.
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Why are you assuming people want what Linux has to offer over what Windows does? If you truly believe that Linux is a better OS then you are completely unaware of what most people want in an OS. The power user and developer community is very small.
.NET may become cross-platform, but that won't stop people from using Windows. You should really stop bashing MS just for the sake of it..NET is an amazing platform to develop for and if it does become cross-platform it will revolutionize the way most professional developers write web applications. If.NET doesn't become cross-platform then it will be neglected by all but VB and ASP developers.
What happens when the government makes filtering mandatory for ISPs? Clearly, this is the way the north american society is heading. It's kind of like the mandatory seat belt law: most people want to weat seat belts anyway and make sure their children wear them too. Those that don't want to wear one only hurt themselves.
I know plenty of people that, while interested in open source programs, couldn't care less about programming and many don't even have a C compiler (or don't know if they have one).
open source software doesn't just benefit programmers, it benefits all users of that program because of it hopefully superior design and clean coding.
I used to work as a programmer for Lucent in a shared building with Bell Labs. No one in either company was happy.
Lucent has become so geared toward profit rather than innovation that Bell Labs has been forced into a lesser role. I don't suppose Ken was happy these last several years.
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Media does not breed, does not struggle to remain alive or alter its own environment to increase survival rate. It does not prey, is not hunted and is not subject to the same laws that govern life. Darwin would be embarassed that his theories are being applied to such a ridiculous thing as media.
Media has a limiting factor: us. Media doesn't create itself, we create it. If every single person decided to publish 6 pieces of media each day online that would mean somewhere around 37 billion new pieces of media each day. The real number would be limited to people of a certain age that could actually publish the media and to those who have access to the Internet.
That number can only grow by the same rate as the population becomes of age minus those that die or become otherwise unable to publish any kind of media. For it to grow further, people would have to start publishing more than 6 pieces of media a day. Since there is a limit to how many a person could possibly publish, the number of pieces of media is limited.
Of course, anybody who can think realistically knows that the limiting number is actually far smaller, on the order of maybe a couple of billion new pieces of media each day.
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Never forward messages. The 'evil' JavaScript isn't going to be in an email from your boss asking you to send him some report, is it? Quit forwarding those damn jokes and chain mails and get your lazy ass back to work. As someone who never forwards anything unsolicited to anybody, I don't see how this affects me and, quite honestly, I'm a little shocked that so much of the /. crowd does forward stuff. Aren't you guys just poliferating this shit?
:P
It just occured to me that I can probably remove the 'Forward' button in Outlook (I love MS's cool modifiable toolbars). I'm going to go take that sucker out right now
"Wireless communication device with distributed messaging based man-machine interface"
aka, the wireless email client. all that and I only substituted 2 words. I bet we could patent almost anything usefull with just a couple of changed words.
This is absolutely true. I used to work for Lucent Canada. We shared a building with Bell Labs and I got to know a few of the guys there. They showed me all kinds of crazy wacky stuff, including holographic storage. This has been a working technology for many years, but only in the last few has it been able to compete with standard technologies in performance and storage space.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The JVM is not cross-platform at all. It might as well be MS Word. Sure, Word is available for MacOS and has the same feature set, but no one think that it's the same code on both OS's.
.NET and the CLR are Windows-only, but the potential for them to become available on other platforms is there.
:P) to this conversation, MS has no reason not to port the framework and runtime to other OS's because it fits with the direction that they are heading. MS makes a lot more money from Office than they do from Windows. If they can deploy Office to every major OS without adding any development overhead they'll make even more money regardless if it hurts their OS sales or not.
My point being that
Now, just to add total subjectiveness (is that a word? Is now
C# = Java
.NET = uh... sorry, no equivalent here.
.NET, only C# and the CLR. Read a few of the other posts to find out what .NET itself is.
CLR = JVM
That's the difference right there. Sun has nothing to compete with
Well, you said that it can't do anything that can't be done with a computer. That seems like a pretty redundant question considering the topic is about computer software. I just don't understand what the argument is when you say that.
.NET can't do anything that can't also be done by the JVM. That's a better argument because it's on topic (unlike this post :P) and if expanded can refute the post at the root of this thread.
I think a fairer comparison would be to say that
In other words, there's nothing here that can't be done with... a computer
.NET to do things that a computer can't do? Are you aware that .NET is a piece of computer software? I think your expectations might have been a little bit too high.
Are you saying you expected
Come to think of it, I'm pretty disappointed with Linux 2.4. Everything it does is the same that my computer can do. The stupid kernel can't even make me coffee in the morning! I don't know what all this Linux hype is all about.
"think down to Windows' level."
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.NET framework is just as platform neutral as the JVM.
What is this supposed to mean? Is it like the schoolyard bully that your mommy tells you not to talk to so you don't "sink down to his level"? That's probably the most arrogant response I've ever seen on
FYI, the
You read the book, take notes and keep track of what pages important things happen on. Then you use that information to allow readers of your book report to access that information faster than reading through the whole book. If the book were 100 000 000 000 pages long, it would be eerily similar. Maybe they'll go after high school English teachers next. yay!
I can't remember all the details, so sombody please correct any mistakes...
A Vancouver court heard a case like this a few years ago. The defendent claimed that his drawings of nude children engaging in sexual activities were both works of art and products of his imagination. While simply being "works of art" isn't a defense (photos can be art, but not if they're of nude children having sex), his argument about being products of his imagination stood up in court.
The court said that while they found the drawings disgusting and that they should be banned, it would be impossible for them to rule that they're illegal because that's one step away from declaring that a person's thoughts are under the control of the law.
In its most common state the Earth has no ice at its poles. The fact that we have adapted to expect Earth to stay the same forever just goes to show how naive we can be. So what if New Orleans sinks into the ocean? It was built on a piece of ground that has been underwater for most of the Earth's lifetime, so why should we expect it not to be underwater again in the future?
The Earth is 4.6 billion years old. Recorded history is only a couple thousand years and much of that is still not understood properly. What will the Earth be like a million years from now? We will most likely be long gone and another civilization will be digging up our remains and making crazy theories about how we lived. I bet they'll never think that we were afraid about spewing toxins into the air when a huge asteroid was hurtling toward us.
Odigo is an AOL and ICQ-compliant IM. Whenever AOL finds a way to cut them off, Odigo releases a patch fix a day later :)
the standards-compliant Web, as we know it, will die
The standards-compliant web as I know it isn't very standards-compliant. If it dies, won't that make it even more standards-compliant?
Make it law that all email must contain proper headers and that all email from an advertiser must also contain a phone number and mailing address for the company.
:)
Since no normal internet user will forge headers and all legitimate advertisers will have an office, this will not be a problem for anybody except mass spammers. All other email can be sent to a government agency who tracks down the original senders and forces them to read 5000 spam emails every day for 5 years
1) When it works, it works really well
2) When it doesn't work, nobody can understand what it is anymore.
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Why do you believe that the only way to stop MS is to break it up? Isn't that anti-capitalist? MS is a huge corp. because they got themselves there. Ok, so if MS breaks up into 5 pieces it may give Linux a big boost, but then Linux will have become popular only because the government hindered MS's ability to do business. If Linux is truly better than Windows, it will win its way into people's hearts the fair way.
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I really enjoy living in Canada. Moving here from the US would be really easy because of our lower dollar (for every US doller you have it would be worth ~$1.40 CA).
The UN ranks Canada as the best country in the world to live in and has done so for several years in a row. We have free health care for most basic health needs (not dental). Canada has one of the highest standards of living in the world (i think higher than the US).
For an American, moving to Canada isn't a huge step compared to most other countries. Our culture is very similar and we have access to the same entertainment at the same time.
Having never lived in the US - but visited many times - I can't say Canada is better, but I do know that over the past 100 years I wouldn't have wanted to live anywhere except Canada or the US, so for someone contemplating leaving the US, Canada is the obvious choice.
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Not a corporation bent on maximizing profit. Not a monopoly unfairly using its marketshare to bludgeon potential competitors into submission The Catholic Church is:
1) A corporation bent on maximizing profit (they make billions each year)
2) A near monopoly (in certain parts of the world) that uses its marketshare to force customers into buying into its view and stop all competitors from invading its marketplace.
erm... I don't really want to start an argument here, so I'm done.
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Why are you assuming people want what Linux has to offer over what Windows does? If you truly believe that Linux is a better OS then you are completely unaware of what most people want in an OS. The power user and developer community is very small.
.NET may become cross-platform, but that won't stop people from using Windows. You should really stop bashing MS just for the sake of it. .NET is an amazing platform to develop for and if it does become cross-platform it will revolutionize the way most professional developers write web applications. If .NET doesn't become cross-platform then it will be neglected by all but VB and ASP developers.
What happens when the government makes filtering mandatory for ISPs? Clearly, this is the way the north american society is heading. It's kind of like the mandatory seat belt law: most people want to weat seat belts anyway and make sure their children wear them too. Those that don't want to wear one only hurt themselves.
I know plenty of people that, while interested in open source programs, couldn't care less about programming and many don't even have a C compiler (or don't know if they have one). open source software doesn't just benefit programmers, it benefits all users of that program because of it hopefully superior design and clean coding.
I used to work as a programmer for Lucent in a shared building with Bell Labs. No one in either company was happy.
Lucent has become so geared toward profit rather than innovation that Bell Labs has been forced into a lesser role. I don't suppose Ken was happy these last several years.
Media does not breed, does not struggle to remain alive or alter its own environment to increase survival rate. It does not prey, is not hunted and is not subject to the same laws that govern life. Darwin would be embarassed that his theories are being applied to such a ridiculous thing as media.
Media has a limiting factor: us. Media doesn't create itself, we create it. If every single person decided to publish 6 pieces of media each day online that would mean somewhere around 37 billion new pieces of media each day. The real number would be limited to people of a certain age that could actually publish the media and to those who have access to the Internet.
That number can only grow by the same rate as the population becomes of age minus those that die or become otherwise unable to publish any kind of media. For it to grow further, people would have to start publishing more than 6 pieces of media a day. Since there is a limit to how many a person could possibly publish, the number of pieces of media is limited.
Of course, anybody who can think realistically knows that the limiting number is actually far smaller, on the order of maybe a couple of billion new pieces of media each day.
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