Not only that. The so called "obvious" is a very dangerous thing. So dangerous I and a few colleagues of mine are writing a paper about it.
The point here is that the "obvious" is so "obvious", and many (most?) time you will fail to notice it.
On the other hand, I do have to diagree with you on this one. This thing is not "obvious". It's just plain stupid. It's called "killing the golden egg goose". I won't what will happen when they find out there is no gold inside the goose, and that the only way was to wait the goose to lay eggs (which, once dead, it can't to any longer) ?
Will they start sueing the artist ? Or maybe sueing hardware manufacturers ? Maybe sueing Microsoft and the Linux community ?
No, I don't think that is unlikely to happen. We have seen that kind of crap before, and sadly, know it all too well.
Even if it is only based on the concepts stablished by UNIX, it is still UNIX-based. Take the SysV-IPC as a proof of this. The name it self should show you Linux is, in fact, UNIX-based.
As previously stated on another comment, this has nothing to do with SCO's FUD. SCO claims Linux is based on UNIX code. Being based on UNIX has nothing to do with it.
But in online games, it seems that there are hordes of people who never learned to act above the age of 12
You do realize that there are hordes of people, on online games, that are in fact not about 12yo, right ?
I do ocasionally play MMORPGs, expecially The Realm. Out of curiosity, I do ask for other players ages. With very rare exceptions, most are 16 or under.
I'll probably get modded down into the next eon by this, but I can't refrain myself any longer, and I have to rant somewhere. So, please be patient with me.
What the crap is this ? They say their rights are being hurt ? That they are causing no damage to the internet ?
Heck, they want to put on a search engine, want to make a profit from it. Well and good. Then DO one. A complete one, that looks at all TLD (not just.com and.net, but.org too), make it look good and work flawlessly. What is the problem ? Altavista used to the THE search engine. Google cameup and took over. Why can't they do the same ? It is possible to overthrow google with the resources they have, without having to create havok for everyone else.
This kind of behaviour is the same thing herbalife has been doing for years. Annoying the heck of everyone, and playing the innocent.
You know what ? I do miss the time when internic.net was the only registrar avaliable, and I had to pay US$50/year for each domain. I didn't have to put you with this kind of crap back then.
I wonder if people at ICANN knows what will happen to them politically, in the imediate future, if they let this kind of thing pass. What is out there to stop Verisign from buying other TLD holders ? This kind of event make me think Microsoft is correct, and buying the internet itself is not only possible, easy.
"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down the Site Finder service," said VeriSign spokesman Tom Galvin. "We will accede to their request while we explore all of our options."
If you want to change the behaviour of web browsers, it should be coded on the browsers it self. A few (several?) browsers already do it. Why would anyone want to add another layer of complexity to DNS, which is already a painful and bug-prone protocol ?
Changing the fundamental base of the Internet just to affect one kind of application it not only stupid , but totally irresponsable.
This is something to think about. But, I have to ask. How much money did they make during this time ? Maybe enough to be sued and still make a profit ?
This is not the first time we see hit&run tactics, and will probably not be the last time.
>ICANN can always instruct the root DNS servers to point elsewhere for com. and net. instead of verisigns gTLD servers. That would effectivly remove verisign from the game totally.
What would happen to the domains that are registered at Verisign. I know it SHOULD still work, but will it ?
Maybe it is time for Verisign's clients to start moving their domains, and now it's not only a matter of Verisign being a bad guy. Your domains COULD stop working.
There is one thing you have not considered. This sitefinder only works for.com and.net. But not on the sense that it only answers to.com and.net errors, but the alternative sites it presents are only on.com and.net domains.
If you type asdqweasd.com, and the correct site is asdqweasd.org, you will get no answer.
So, the argument of "helping the comunity to locate the sites" falls down to earth.
I for once, am glad for ICANN behaviour. I only hope they do manage to enforce it, not only now, but also in the future.
On hehalf of all non-EU and non-US nerds: There is a world outside EU and US.
But I do tend to agree. And why would it not be ? It is based on the US, is it not ? Just like ICANN is US-centric. Isn't that the way things always are ?
Well, I, for once, am worried about this. Microsoft and Disney (don't know about the others) are not well known to be worried about public rights. What could this mean ? Content restrictions ? "IP protection" systems ? Cell phones with BSOD ? I do own a Nokia cell phone, and I'm very happy with it. It is probably one of the most shock resistant devices I ever owned. But when you band these companies together, the least one can do is to hold on for trouble.
This study is completly wrong. You see, I bet all they did was to look at the number of developers _listed_ on the project page at SourceForge. But that number does not refrect the truth. That number only represent the number of SF accounts with development priviledges for the projects. Usualy there are other people working on it that don't even have a SF account.
You can bet that sourceforge (and others) will make UnitedLinux machines avaliable on their compile farms( if not UnitedLinux companies themselves ). That pretty much solves most of the problem.
Man, Tradewars 2K ruled. I used to play it in 6 different BBSs. 5 paying long distance. And this is Brazil here, where telefone rates, even today, would make any american cry. My father used to hate me those days lol.
(full quote for those who read at +1) ? Why? The companies' respective geographic markets are almost completely separate, so there's no overlap - the staffing currently needed in one area will continue to be needed once the UnifiedLinux (or whatsoever its name will be) comes out. Technical staff, development staff, international sales, support clerks, documentation writes etc. There are lots of places where I'm sure the capitalist partners would love to see some cuts. Then again, I might be wrong.
Slashdot Mirror
(...)non-obvoius technological invention(...)
You are kidding, right ? I mean, we are talking about the USPO here, are we not ?
There is no shift key on most t-shirts. So, it should be pretty easy :)
Just insert the CD. The code should install itself in no time.
How long before they start loosing these litigations ?
Would you emply a lawyer that sued a 12 y/o and lost ?
Not only that. The so called "obvious" is a very dangerous thing. So dangerous I and a few colleagues of mine are writing a paper about it.
The point here is that the "obvious" is so "obvious", and many (most?) time you will fail to notice it.
On the other hand, I do have to diagree with you on this one. This thing is not "obvious". It's just plain stupid. It's called "killing the golden egg goose". I won't what will happen when they find out there is no gold inside the goose, and that the only way was to wait the goose to lay eggs (which, once dead, it can't to any longer) ?
Will they start sueing the artist ? Or maybe sueing hardware manufacturers ? Maybe sueing Microsoft and the Linux community ?
No, I don't think that is unlikely to happen. We have seen that kind of crap before, and sadly, know it all too well.
Actually, and someone please correct it I'm wrong, I do remember Mosaic having bookmarks.
I think he means that a rootkit is simply a virus whose medium is the people who install it.
:)
You know, you just described a Trojan (Horse), not a Virus.
Unless, of couse, you mean stupid users are the real virus. In that case, I do have to agree with you
Even if it is only based on the concepts stablished by UNIX, it is still UNIX-based. Take the SysV-IPC as a proof of this. The name it self should show you Linux is, in fact, UNIX-based.
As previously stated on another comment, this has nothing to do with SCO's FUD. SCO claims Linux is based on UNIX code. Being based on UNIX has nothing to do with it.
But in online games, it seems that there are hordes of people who never learned to act above the age of 12
You do realize that there are hordes of people, on online games, that are in fact not about 12yo, right ?
I do ocasionally play MMORPGs, expecially The Realm. Out of curiosity, I do ask for other players ages. With very rare exceptions, most are 16 or under.
I'll probably get modded down into the next eon by this, but I can't refrain myself any longer, and I have to rant somewhere. So, please be patient with me.
.com and .net, but .org too), make it look good and work flawlessly. What is the problem ?
What the crap is this ? They say their rights are being hurt ? That they are causing no damage to the internet ?
Heck, they want to put on a search engine, want to make a profit from it. Well and good. Then DO one. A complete one, that looks at all TLD (not just
Altavista used to the THE search engine. Google cameup and took over. Why can't they do the same ? It is possible to overthrow google with the resources they have, without having to create havok for everyone else.
This kind of behaviour is the same thing herbalife has been doing for years. Annoying the heck of everyone, and playing the innocent.
You know what ? I do miss the time when internic.net was the only registrar avaliable, and I had to pay US$50/year for each domain. I didn't have to put you with this kind of crap back then.
I wonder if people at ICANN knows what will happen to them politically, in the imediate future, if they let this kind of thing pass. What is out there to stop Verisign from buying other TLD holders ? This kind of event make me think Microsoft is correct, and buying the internet itself is not only possible, easy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A402 41-2003Oct3.html
"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down
the Site Finder service," said VeriSign spokesman Tom Galvin. "We will
accede to their request while we explore all of our options."
Are they kidding or something ?
If you want to change the behaviour of web browsers, it should be coded on the browsers it self. A few (several?) browsers already do it. Why would anyone want to add another layer of complexity to DNS, which is already a painful and bug-prone protocol ?
Changing the fundamental base of the Internet just to affect one kind of application it not only stupid , but totally irresponsable.
This is something to think about.
But, I have to ask. How much money did they make during this time ? Maybe enough to be sued and still make a profit ?
This is not the first time we see hit&run tactics, and will probably not be the last time.
Sorry to disagree, but I would do the same on ICANN's place.
The choice between sueing and being sued it very clear to me.
I'm probably going to hell to saying this, but I think, given the current scenary, ICANN did the right thing.
>ICANN can always instruct the root DNS servers to point elsewhere for com. and net. instead of verisigns gTLD servers. That would effectivly remove verisign from the game totally.
What would happen to the domains that are registered at Verisign. I know it SHOULD still work, but will it ?
Maybe it is time for Verisign's clients to start moving their domains, and now it's not only a matter of Verisign being a bad guy. Your domains COULD stop working.
There is one thing you have not considered. .com and .net. .com and .net errors, but the alternative sites it presents are only on .com and .net domains.
This sitefinder only works for
But not on the sense that it only answers to
If you type asdqweasd.com, and the correct site is asdqweasd.org, you will get no answer.
So, the argument of "helping the comunity to locate the sites" falls down to earth.
I for once, am glad for ICANN behaviour. I only hope they do manage to enforce it, not only now, but also in the future.
Hope you have better luck.
> host www.google.com
www.google.com is an alias for www.google.akadns.net.
www.google.akadns.net has address 216.239.59.99
> host www.google.com.br
www.google.com.br is an alias for www.google.akadns.net.
www.google.akadns.net has address 216.239.59.99
Same site for Brazil. Nice....
On hehalf of all non-EU and non-US nerds:
There is a world outside EU and US.
But I do tend to agree. And why would it not be ? It is based on the US, is it not ? Just like ICANN is US-centric. Isn't that the way things always are ?
You can now mod me troll.
Yeah, I can just picture something:
Newbie: Hey, I just got this CD for Free on the Microsoft booth. Can you help me install it in Linux ?
Well, I, for once, am worried about this.
Microsoft and Disney (don't know about the others) are not well known to be worried about public rights. What could this mean ? Content restrictions ? "IP protection" systems ? Cell phones with BSOD ?
I do own a Nokia cell phone, and I'm very happy with it. It is probably one of the most shock resistant devices I ever owned. But when you band these companies together, the least one can do is to hold on for trouble.
This study is completly wrong.
You see, I bet all they did was to look at the number of developers _listed_ on the project page at SourceForge. But that number does not refrect the truth.
That number only represent the number of SF accounts with development priviledges for the projects. Usualy there are other people working on it that don't even have a SF account.
Paypal ? Reputable ?
Surely, you must be kidding.
This is my sarcastic way of saying I don't understand what the $%^@! this guy is trying to sell us by saying the universe is a computer.
:-)
Support contracts ?
You can bet that sourceforge (and others) will make UnitedLinux machines avaliable on their compile farms( if not UnitedLinux companies themselves ).
That pretty much solves most of the problem.
Man, Tradewars 2K ruled.
I used to play it in 6 different BBSs. 5 paying long distance. And this is Brazil here, where telefone rates, even today, would make any american cry.
My father used to hate me those days lol.
(full quote for those who read at +1)
? Why? The companies' respective geographic markets are almost completely separate, so there's no overlap - the staffing currently needed in one area will continue to be needed once the UnifiedLinux (or whatsoever its name will be) comes out.
Technical staff, development staff, international sales, support clerks, documentation writes etc.
There are lots of places where I'm sure the capitalist partners would love to see some cuts.
Then again, I might be wrong.