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Google Adds Location Targeted Searching

miradu writes "Many Slashdot users may remember that the winner of last year's Google programming contest's entry was a location specific search. Now, Google has made a version of Daniel's idea available to use on Google Labs. Google Search By Location lets you search for things near some zipcode, or city/state. It then gives you a map with each search result pinned on it. V"

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  1. Useful service by esconsult1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is google going to eventually require some kind of stripped down registration for this service? They've slowly (over the past year or so), started to roll out a pervasive registration for their various services (Adsense, Adwords), and optional registration would make sense here too.

    On the other side of things, Google stands to make a killing here. Google can sell a new class of ads to people like plumbers, who don't need a webpage. In fact, they could possibly host a minimal web page for those kind of advertisers who just want to show some simple text and services.

    Hey, perhaps Google wants to give me some kind of idea fee???

    1. Re:Useful service by rekkanoryo · · Score: 1

      You have an excellent idea. Beyond plumbers, electricians, contractors, and even grocery stores and pharmacies could advertise like this if it wasn't too expensive. But asking for an idea fee...well, I think there'll be some outdoor ice skating in the middle of the rain forest before we see the fee paid.

    2. Re:Useful service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because of copyright infringement and naming of essential business facts of patent No.xxx.xx.xxxx you've been fined for USD 500,000.

    3. Re:Useful service by thedillybar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is a wonderful idea. Sites like Yahoo already have Yellow Pages that do similar things. Hopefully Google can make it even better. I definitely believe MapQuest is a big improvement over Yahoo Maps. Nice to see that Google has started out small (just search engine), made their services FAR better than any competitor, and are now, finally, expanding.

    4. Re:Useful service by u01000101 · · Score: 4, Funny

      On the other side of things, Google stands to make a killing here. Google can sell a new class of ads to people like plumbers, who don't need a webpage.

      Wait, I have a better idea: why not put together a collection of local info (maybe print it also) and call that, say, Yellow Pages? :-)

      In other words, I call "prior art".

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    5. Re:Useful service by `Sean · · Score: 1

      > I definitely believe MapQuest is a big improvement over Yahoo Maps.

      No kidding. Completely off-topic, but Yahoo! Maps tends to give street names instead of route numbers. So, even though a route number continues for 50 miles I get 100 different street names. Oak St. becomes Pine St. becomes Smith St. becomes Wethufagawi St. Guh. Now difficult is it for them to figure out the route number?

    6. Re:Useful service by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      Someone tried that and decided to make it "more profitable" and killed the idea with citysearch.com. When it first came out they were very reasonable in prices and did quite a bit of radio advertising to get people signed up on the searches. Too bad all of the cool stuff that used to be free on the internet has either gone pay or spam-registration based.

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    7. Re:Useful service by gothicpoet · · Score: 1
      It's an interesting idea... except you aren't the first to come up with it.

      I worked for a .com that went bust a few years ago. We were developing a web portal that did pretty much what Google is testing plus what you are suggesting. A localized search engine (searchable by city, state and zip) that included putting up billboard type web pages for local businesses who didn't have their own, and also selling a ad space targeted to the zip code that people searched. There were some other localization features included as well.

      I'll be interested to see what comes of this. (And if the folks I worked for take notice of it.)

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    8. Re:Useful service by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't feel bad. I live in Northern Virginia, where about two-thirds of all roads are named "Glebe". There's North, South, East, and West Glebe Road. North Glebe runs roughly north, while South Glebe runs east-west. West Glebe goes south, and is south of South Glebe. All of them have different route numbers, and the route numbers change.

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    9. Re:Useful service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've slowly (over the past year or so), started to roll out a pervasive registration for their various services (Adsense, Adwords), and optional registration would make sense here too.

      If you can show me a per-click advertising program that doesn't require registration (and thus payment) and can deliver the volume of non-porn, non-chinese, non-404 traffic that google can, I'd be there in an instant. Registration for advertisers is a complete non-issue. If I was going to fault adwords for anything it would be that their interface is slow and sucks, and that they are a bit too hyperactive when it comes to shutting down unproductive ad groups.

      It would be nice if google would give unlimited access to their API for high-volume advertisers, but I'm not holding my breath.

    10. Re:Useful service by Wateshay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words, I call "prior art".

      So? I didn't see anyone mentioning that Google was going to try to patent the idea. They're not Amazon.com.

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    11. Re:Useful service by the_riaa · · Score: 1
      Don't even complain until you live in Atlanta.

      Peachtree? Which one?

    12. Re:Useful service by TommyTyker · · Score: 1

      Yeah, real useful. I was feeling a little horny so searched for a Hooker in Scottsdale, AZ. The first result pointed me to PGATOURS.Com Licensees. Hmm.. hookers in the PGA..

    13. Re:Useful service by falconed · · Score: 1

      okay, but when's the last time you actually used the yellow pages? All I ever use is Yahoo Yellow Pages unless I don't have an internet connection for some reason (Isabel). Yahoo YP is far more useful; it gives maps, links to websites when available, and best of all: it's searchable. Google came along and beat yahoo's search engine, now they have a contender for yahoo's yellow pages.

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    14. Re:Useful service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've slowly (over the past year or so), started to roll out a pervasive registration for their various services (Adsense, Adwords)

      Well, duh. They need to know who you are to send you your cheques when you use Adsense, and they need to know who you are to bill you when you use Adwords.

      optional registration would make sense here too

      Why? They don't need to bill you or send you a cheque.

    15. Re:Useful service by saforrest · · Score: 1

      Wait, I have a better idea: why not put together a collection of local info (maybe print it also) and call that, say, Yellow Pages? :-)

      Because they might have to rename it to NIS? :)

    16. Re:Useful service by pmz · · Score: 1


      Yellow Pages don't allow flexible queries, like, potentially, "show me all liquor stores along my route to/from work." If google pushes this far enough, this could be very widely useful for things we struggle to imagine, right now.

    17. Re:Useful service by Mozo · · Score: 1

      ...and in Minneapolis, most north-south roads are named alphabetically (each block east uses the next letter to start the name of the road). For uncommon letters, the same name gets used over and over again, leading to a curious abundance of Zinran Avenues and Xerxes Avenues.

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    18. Re:Useful service by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      a town i drove through in western colorado was pretty bad too. usually when you see north 3rd street or something, and are trying to get to south 3rd street, you just stay on the same road and go south because the north/south designation means north end or south end of the SAME road. well in this town (unfortunately i forgot the name) the north/south designation was for different roads. the road through center of town was 1st street. then on each side of 1st street was north 2nd and south 2nd, and then north 3rd and south 3rd, this continued to extend this way out of town.

      ------N 3rd st-----
      ------N 2nd st-----
      --------1st st-----
      ------S 2nd st-----
      ------S 3rd st-----

      i was lost in that town for quite a while :)

    19. Re:Useful service by JWW · · Score: 1

      Well its not a town in Colorado, but Brookings, South Dakota is laid out exactly like this, with North and South streets. Yes, it is really annoying.

      The Avenues, luckily, just go up in number going from west to east.

    20. Re:Useful service by hazem · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure this is so unusual. In Portland, Oregon (not necessarily a bastion of "normalcy"), the avenues work just like that. The Willamette river, running North, splits the city. Avenues (which run generally north-south) are numbered going out from the river. Avenues on the east side are #E, and avenues on the west side are #W. 180E is quite a ways from 185W.

    21. Re:Useful service by magores · · Score: 1

      Having grown up in Tacoma, WA I consider this to be "normal".

      Thats they way they did it there, so thats what I got used to.

      Of course, in Tacoma, the change-over isn't at 1st... It's at 6th.

    22. Re:Useful service by lacrymology.com · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the whole Fair Lakes debacle. Fair Lakes is essentially a grid of roads all called Fair Lakes Rd. If you want to tell some one directions you basically have to say: "turn left on Fair lakes, then right onto Fair Lakes, then go past 2 Fair Lakes and make another right onto Fair Lakes." You'd be better off giving the index to your address. "Oh, I live at 666 Fair Lakes[0][4] Rd."

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    23. Re:Useful service by flatface · · Score: 1

      I feel your pain. I was in Atlanta during the summer on Vacation and I was following somebody's directions somewhere.. Somehow, I ended up at the corner of "Peachtree St NW" and "W Peachtree St NW". Apparently there are 52 streets there with that name.

      Oh yeah, I didn't see a single peach until I crossed into North Carolina.

    24. Re:Useful service by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 2, Informative
      D.C. has this, but they have it from E to W. Then for N and S they have letters. For example, there is a N. D street and a S. D street. Once, before I realized the implications of this, I was looking for something at I and 3rd. Unfortunately I forgot which ones ... And, as ususal, I was late.

      I believe I hit it on the 4th try.

    25. Re:Useful service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yellow pages don't have glossaries, either.

    26. Re:Useful service by Jmstuckman · · Score: 1

      The one thing that I'm still getting used to in MN is all the "Frontage Roads." North Frontage road, East Frontage Road, West Frontage road...and nobody knows what in the hell "frontage" is!!

    27. Re:Useful service by thetamind_pyros · · Score: 1

      If you thinik MapQuest is good...check out Maporama.

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    28. Re:Useful service by pmz · · Score: 1


      I'm glad Google let you research your hobbies, so you are sure you aren't missing out on anything. Bon Appetit!

    29. Re:Useful service by newcombe · · Score: 1

      Not a new idea really, as seen on www.upmystreet.co.uk

  2. Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?

    1. Re:Great, but... by scumbucket · · Score: 3, Funny

      Probably because you put 'Ann Arbor, MI' (Taco's current area of residence) in the address.........

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    2. Re:Great, but... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because there ARE no hot single geek chicks - they're all hot single NERD chicks. Sheesh.

    3. Re:Great, but... by iapetus · · Score: 1

      Because Google doesn't cope well with vagueness. Try searching for "Single female geeks with body temperature of 40C or greater".

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    4. Re:Great, but... by red+elk · · Score: 1

      Now that's the first set of oximorons I've heard today... Hot, Single, Geek, and chick...

    5. Re:Great, but... by hornrimsylvia · · Score: 1

      it is that great new google "scan potential stalkers" feature. obviously all of the gals in your area ran it before your query.

    6. Re:Great, but... by orangepeel · · Score: 5, Funny

      body temperature of 40C or greater

      So you're searching for SARS victims?

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    7. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Victims of any kind. Beggars cannot be choosers, my friend.

    8. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    9. Re:Great, but... by MessageFactory · · Score: 2, Funny

      How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?
      I tried "single geek" and found 4 billion results. Yippee me!

      ...oh wait...damn.

      ....it's a joke people :-)

    10. Re:Great, but... by ForemastJack · · Score: 1

      Because the set returned is the null set, silly.

    11. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have a ZIP code you insensitive clod!

  3. Most popular /. search so far by Superfreaker · · Score: 0, Funny

    Donuts

    1. Re:Most popular /. search so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Donuts before pr0n and pizza? Which slashdot are you reading?

    2. Re:Most popular /. search so far by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 2, Funny
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    3. Re:Most popular /. search so far by Superfreaker · · Score: 1

      LOL! First result:

      1. Donuts on eBay
      Find donuts at low prices. With over 5 million items for sale every day, you'll find all kinds of unique things on eBay - the World's Online Marketplace.
      www.ebay.com

    4. Re:Most popular /. search so far by typobox43 · · Score: 1

      Looks like evidence that the Verisign search is at least slightly tainted? ;)

    5. Re:Most popular /. search so far by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 0

      Not in the least. Check out result #5 when you search for Michael Sims. Ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha.

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  4. I know, i allways complane by sjwt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But wouldnt be cool to see this applyed to
    more then just the US?

    With all the talk about Google being
    'The' serch engine, id love to see
    something like this applyed on a
    world wide base.

    mind you not knowing how it works
    it may require ppl to put decent
    contact info on there pages,
    ie country name.

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    1. Re:I know, i allways complane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since it's still in the labs, it's still an experimental project. They may eventually abandon the idea, or they may take it mainstream. Google News started out with a US-centric version, and has since expanded to cover a number of other countries.

    2. Re:I know, i allways complane by Karamchand · · Score: 1

      It's still just a try - you can't see it on the usual Google search page (like you can see web, groups, images, news..), it's in the Labs at the moment. And I guess the group of people willing to try it out, to test it, is large enough.

      Unfortunately.. I'd love to see it world wide as well.

    3. Re:I know, i allways complane by EinarH · · Score: 1
      On behalf of all europeans:
      Google is US-centric!

      Ok serious: This is a beta thing, and second they probably want to roll it out in a area where its easier to sell ads based on location.

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    4. Re:I know, i allways complane by jrumney · · Score: 1

      The UK already has this (kind of). www.upmystreet.com.

    5. Re:I know, i allways complane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not to be confused with www.upmyass.com

    6. Re:I know, i allways complane by morcego · · Score: 1

      On hehalf of all non-EU and non-US nerds:
      There is a world outside EU and US.

      But I do tend to agree. And why would it not be ? It is based on the US, is it not ? Just like ICANN is US-centric. Isn't that the way things always are ?

      You can now mod me troll.

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    7. Re:I know, i allways complane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be Australian.

    8. Re:I know, i allways complane by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      It is based on the US, is it not ? Just like ICANN is US-centric. Isn't that the way things always are ?

      No!

      Aah, finally found a place to post that web server based in antarctica. What a relief! :)

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    9. Re:I know, i allways complane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say from his accent his first language is Portuguese, so if not in EU then probably Brazil, or Goa, or Macow, ......

    10. Re:I know, i allways complane by gdavidp · · Score: 1

      Well with support of the "modernized" postal services of the United States, this service should also soon work in Iraq.

    11. Re:I know, i allways complane by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      The logic that fishes addresses out of web pages might not be as flexible as you think. There might be quite a lot of work involved in making it work for different places in the US. Each other nation may require a lot of customization as well.

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  5. Still needs work: by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    It's a great idea but the heuristics need work:

    "Your search for money grubbing scumbags near Lindon, UT did not match any documents within 15 miles."

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    1. Re:Still needs work: by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a great idea but the heuristics need work:

      "Your search for money grubbing scumbags near Lindon, UT did not match any documents within 15 miles."


      That's because your spelling is wrong: it's
      money grubbing SCOumbags

    2. Re:Still needs work: by Tuna_Shooter · · Score: 1

      Actually if you search Google for "google heuristics work" you end up with quite a few links from within google itself.

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  6. OMG! Google got slashdoted! by bflong · · Score: 5, Funny

    Server Error
    The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
    Please try again in a minute or so.

    Does anyone have a link to the google cache of this page?

    er.... nevermind...

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    1. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by ephemeraleuphoria · · Score: 1

      Despite the fact that I'm sure the server's just having some "normal" difficulties, you could always try one of the thousands of other mirror googles for each country.

    2. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Well, I got to play with it for a while before it was slashdotted (hint: get a subscription).

      It's kind of cool, but pretty lame. Most searches matched something on the edge of the page with and address from the other edge. They just weren't related. About 1/5 pages weren't even online anymore. For some reason, the location search doesn't include a cache link, but you can get the cache via the normal google interface.

    3. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by no+soup+for+you · · Score: 5, Funny
      Sometimes it decides on its own to break for a nice pot of Earl Grey and some fresh silicon wafers. We'll keep it running as much as possible, but please bear with us as we work to make it faster and more reliable.

      From the Google Search By Location FAQ

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    4. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by Poeir · · Score: 1

      Then they suggest you try again in a minute or so.

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    5. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by squidfood · · Score: 4, Funny
      So,

      Is it better to slashdot google or google slashdot?

    6. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by morcego · · Score: 1

      Hope you have better luck.

      > host www.google.com
      www.google.com is an alias for www.google.akadns.net.
      www.google.akadns.net has address 216.239.59.99

      > host www.google.com.br
      www.google.com.br is an alias for www.google.akadns.net.
      www.google.akadns.net has address 216.239.59.99

      Same site for Brazil. Nice....

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    7. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by mrtroy · · Score: 1

      Server Error
      The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
      If the problem persists, please mail google@google.com and mention this error message and the query that caused it.

      Apparently they dont want to hook me up with any prostitutes in my area. Cock blockers.

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    8. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      That, is an achievement! Maybe its on a development server :)

      Behold the fury! muahahaha.

  7. Who would ever have guessed. by FreeLinux · · Score: 0, Redundant

    We're actually Slashdotting Google.

    Stop. Stop

  8. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the end of the article: "V" ????...

  9. You Know It's Bad News... by ferrellcat · · Score: 0

    When /. brings a Google server to its knees!

  10. Uh Oh by baldass_newbie · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was searching for a non-slashdotted version near me when it borked.

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  11. Oh, it's location by imbedded street addresses by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At first, I thought this was going to function by mapping the web server IP address to a geological location. This is much better. It is a logical extension from the feature where Google gives you street addresses when you search on business, etc. This could be really useful for finding local clubs and organizations that share a common interest.

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    1. Re:Oh, it's location by imbedded street addresses by Cy+Guy · · Score: 1
      It is a logical extension from the feature where Google gives you street addresses when you search on business, etc.

      And I don't think its mere coincidence that Google is launching this at the same time Yahoo is launching a competitor to Google's Froogle service.

    2. Re:Oh, it's location by imbedded street addresses by generic-man · · Score: 1

      You know, Yahoo! Shopping supported searches before Froogle was ever invented. Yahoo!'s original site only returned listings from (thousands of) Yahoo! shops, whereas Froogle sometimes returns listings from web sites that aren't stores at all. For example, two of the 12 links from a Froogle search for an import video game lead to discussions about the game; some lead to stores where I as an American can't shop. On the other hand, Yahoo!'s search gives me five shops where I can check out right away.

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    3. Re:Oh, it's location by imbedded street addresses by flatface · · Score: 1

      I checked out your Froogle search, and it seemed like you were right. Then I clicked on the complete list of results link. Yahoo!'s might be a bit more developed, I can give you that. I still like Froogle better.

  12. Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by Thinkit3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Once GPS becames much more universal, it would be great for us all to move to latitude and longitude. That's a truly international standard.

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    1. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by zangdesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd think GPS would have to be damn near ubiquitous for that to work. Which would require that education be improved so that graduating seniors actually knew what lat/long is.

      I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. Give it a hundred years or so.

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    2. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by KrackHouse · · Score: 1

      Lat/Long works on bigger communities such as counties in America because you already have approximate geographic data for any address which is embedded in the zipcode. My search engine uses lat/long and the end user doesn't have to know that that's the reason you can do radius searches.

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    3. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by pavon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, no I don't think it would be more elegant. Latitude and longitude tell you where something is located, it doesn't tell you how to get there. "On Adams street, just north of McAlister", will always be more usefull to humans than 35.31234' N 108.47343' W (and we would need that many decimal places). That, however, does not mean that the underlying implementation can't use lat, long.

    4. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by Quino · · Score: 1

      For me, the hard part in finding stuff around town isn't the exact location (though I agree that this also might be useful in certain circumstances, that is if I knew what my address was in Lat/Long!), but how to navigate the streets.

      So, a left at Main and a right 1.5 miles later on to Central is about as useful as directions get for me ... (especially in cities with tons of 1-way streets and "No Turns" intersections, which is where I'm most likely to be lost!)

      Even in the states, if you need to get around town, I'm not sure coordinates would be of much use (I think for the most part we don't really care where stuff is, just how to get there)

    5. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by battjt · · Score: 1

      I live here http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=16&x=5 2&y=347&z=16&w=1 If you can't get there knowing where (i.e. third house west of 100 W by 500 N is the third house west of the intersection 1 mile west of town and 5 miles north of town) then you are an idiot. :-) Then again, I always get lost navigating cities for just that reason. Joe

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  13. Wrong by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

    Most popular search will certainly be...

    Babes | Chicks | Hot Teens | Nude | Sexy

  14. Interesting Idea... by -Grover · · Score: 1

    It'd be nice if it worked though. The two main things I tried to look up by my zip code came up with nothing but a fat server error.

    Both Hotels and Restaurants plus my zip code don't function, Schools doesn't work....

    Just typing in my town name and searching in my zip code works just fine, but I think they have a few kinks to work out before this is even moderatley useful.

    1. Re:Interesting Idea... by -Grover · · Score: 1

      Scratch that...

      It didn't even occur to me that we could have /.'d Google, but since it's on labs. I suppose we just nuked that portion of it...I'll just wait a few hours ;)

  15. using a city name in your website/URL name? by Cryofan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would it be more effective for a small business that depends on local business (such as a house roofing or a plumbing company) to have a business name and a website that includes the name of the city? For example, "www.dallasplumbing.com" or www.dallas-plumbing.com? Which would be better at getting higher up in the google query? It would seem that with this IP location factor in the query that maybe such a URL scheme would be effective? Your opinions, please.....

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    1. Re:using a city name in your website/URL name? by FrankoBoy · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer www.plumbing.dallas

    2. Re:using a city name in your website/URL name? by FroMan · · Score: 1

      Or even plumbers.dallas.tx.us?

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  16. Easy to fix by setzman · · Score: 1, Funny

    You should have typed "Washington, DC" for your location.

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    1. Re:Easy to fix by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      clark who? If I am going vote him for pres, i need a full name.

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    2. Re:Easy to fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      isn't it great to know your chosen canidate doesn't have a chance in hell?

    3. Re:Easy to fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. Perhaps I should vote to continue the oil junta's control? Yes/No?

  17. Google's evolution by Peterus7 · · Score: 4, Funny
    What next, Google-RIAA search; 'enter a kazaa username and google will give you the IP address, personal information, credit card number, and home address of the user!'

    or, using google-patriot act search, type in a person's name, and you get all the secret cameras in their home, their entire geneology, pictures from their past, and other weird things that only the conspiracy theorists know...

    Or, even better, using google for moms, a google that scans the computer for cookies to find out what site her kid has been visiting via a cookie scan or something.

    I dunno, but eventually it's going to seem like an invasion of privacy with these search engines, but then again, once you put something online without any protection, it *is* public domain.

  18. Yahoo Yellow Pages by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is this different from Yahoo Yellow Pages ( http://yp.yahoo.com )? I've been using that service for half a decade. It searches by zipcode / address as well.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by Andorion · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yahoo only shows Yellow Pages listings - the Google search basically finds *web pages* with some reference to that location with the search words in it.

      ~Berj

    2. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by Spleenl3oy · · Score: 0

      It is different in that yp.yahoo.com, only searches business listings in your area, the Google Location searches all websites that contain any address that matches the location specified.

    3. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by pavon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well from what I can tell it doesn't just look in the yellow pages. For example I think I could do a search for linux, and it would display any addresses in my area that appeared on a linux website. Or I could search for the words "sale", and "shoes".

      Unfortunately, I was about to try some searches to see what other usefull things it could do other than yellow pages searches, when the site came to grinding halt. Sure enough, the story had just made the front page for non subscribers :)

      For yellow page type searches, I usually use mapquest, and I'm sure if this is better. The mapquest yellow page info seems to be out of data as it has turned up places that are out of business, and ommitted new ones. On the other hand the listing of results is much simple to read on mapquest. In addition, I don't know how smart google is on dealing with pages that have lists of addresses.

    4. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 0

      Yahoo Yellow Pages is run by Yahoo!, an evil organization that secretly manipulates search results to present you with sponsored links first without telling you.

      Google, on the other hand, clearly separates AdWords partners from search results, displaying a much greater regard for relevant search results.

      In short: Google good, everyone else bad.

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    5. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by gilmour14 · · Score: 1

      Because "Tom and Chuck's Super Cool Garage Band" may have a webpage but not a yellow page listing.

    6. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by dissy · · Score: 1

      > How is this different from Yahoo Yellow Pages

      Its different because yellow pages list phone numbers and addresses.
      You can pay for an ad and put a URL in it, but not without the phonenumber as well.

      Google holds web pages.

      Phone number.. web page.. phone number.. webpage..
      See the difference now?

      By the way, if the yellow pages is the only way you have been searching for webpages, I'd like to be the first to tell you that there is alot of web sites out there that you may find interesting that im sure you dont know about yet.

      Give google a try, or any web search engine. I think you will like what you see.

    7. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by generic-man · · Score: 1

      If the web is the only way you have been searching for local businesses, I'd like to be the first to tell you that there are a lot of companies that don't have web sites yet.

      Local restaurants, pharmacies, and other shops are listed in the yellow pages, but many don't have web sites. Yahoo! Yellow Pages finds these shops. A web search engine won't.

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    8. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by dissy · · Score: 1

      > If the web is the only way you have been searching for local businesses [snip]

      Of course its not.

      The article is about _google_ and it was claimed that the yellow pages do the same exact thing as what googles new tool does. It doesnt. That was the extent of the point I had to make.

      So lets see, back on topic... As you said:
      > I'd like to be the first to tell you that there are a lot of companies that
      > don't have web sites yet.

      Ok. I agree. So, how would googles website location tool help you find companys without a webpage?
      It cant. Why are you even trying to claim it will?
      Why are you pointing out something else that can, when it has nothing to do with what this article is about?

      > Yellow Pages finds these shops. A web search engine won't.

      Ok, and a car will let you drive places, google wont. A gun lets you shoot things, google wont. I can add 2 and 2 to get 4, but I cant do that with google.

      These are all equally as nonrelivant as 'yahoo yellow pages are a phone book and google isnt!'

      Sorry to sound like im attacking you here, i'm really trying not to, but I dont know how else to make my point.

    9. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I can add 2 and 2 to get 4

      Google calculator:

      2 + 2?

      Yes, yes, flippant I know. But hey man, you can do it.

    10. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by dissy · · Score: 1

      heh cute

      My point was taking two things (the digits 2) you can add them together.
      I cant add google.com plus google.com :)
      Well, i guess i can.. either google.comgoogle.com or ggooooggllee..ccoomm or something.. but generally math is reserved for numbers and not letters or companys or services

  19. A search for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    goats near Christmas Island is too disturbing for me.

    1. Re:A search for... by geschild · · Score: 1

      As long as you don't use 'I feel lucky' you should be ok.

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  20. Overloaded... by Xentax · · Score: 1

    That sure didn't take long.

    I wonder if it's because the feature needs performance tuning, or if it simply hasn't been deployed to handle a Slashdotting's worth of load yet.

    Either way, I'm sure it'll be a learning experience for the project team.

    Given Google's amazing general search capability, though, I won't be prepared to call this new Location feature a comparable success until I can search for "winning lottery ticket" near my zip code and get driving directions...

    Xentax

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  21. I'm more worried.. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What google is censoring. Knowing that any DMCA 'request' Google deletes any record from them being.. How do we trust them?

    They've showed that they have no regard for true searchfulness as they cut out Kazaa Lite, Clambake, many parts of scientology debunking. What else do they cut out that we dont know?

    I have at least 8 search engines that I use constantly. And slowly, google is lowering itself in my eyes.

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    1. Re:I'm more worried.. by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google gives good search results except when the law tells them not to -- and even then, they give you a link telling you that results were removed, and why.

      Google self-censors already, anyway -- by altering their PageLink algorithm when certain dishonest sites try rigging Google's system for better page results. This sort of self-censorship is a Good Thing.

      If you want a completely "open" search engine, you're probably going to keep looking. Other engines are increasingly giving into advertising boosting search results, and probably nobody has the breadth and depth of Google's database. You might not like the fact that they have to comply with the law in order to keep returning results at all, but believe me, they don't like it either, and they do all they can to remain honest.

    2. Re:I'm more worried.. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      wtf is your problem?

      Anybody will remove links to sites after a legitimate DMCA request. Either that or they go out of business. It's not up to Google.

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    3. Re:I'm more worried.. by ikkonoishi · · Score: 0

      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF -8&q=scientology operation clambake Second Result http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF -8&q=kazaa Kazaa lite third result. You were saying?

    4. Re:I'm more worried.. by kfg · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, if you're really, really good at finding things you immdiately become a target for those with a vested interest in certain things not being found.

      Go watch Chinatown.

      It isn't really Google's fault. Find a way to guaruntee the lawyers won't give them a "nose job" and I'm sure all those sites would reappear.

      Note that even though they took down the Kazaa Lite search listing they still found a subversive way to pass the url along.

      KFG

    5. Re:I'm more worried.. by Downtown · · Score: 1

      Could someone explain what exactly they 'cut out'?

      Kazaa lite came up when I did a search...

    6. Re:I'm more worried.. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      Damn. And I thought that Linux Zealots were bad.

      My main concern is that the 3 examples given were shoddy "censorship". What about other censorships done by Google that we havent been informed.

      The thougt I'm trying to convey is that "everybody" uses google. Because they control what sites 'exist', they can make sites disappear. It's sort of like controlling somebodys language. If they dont know the word to convey something, how can they describe it? That's what Orwell was worried about.

      After I describe it, it's not so trollish, is it? After all, I figured the /. community couldve picked up on that... but I guess not.

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  22. Wow! by stratjakt · · Score: 1

    Google seems to be suffering from feature overload of late.

    Why is this more useful than just going to yellowpages.com, and maybe mapquest if I need directions?

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    1. Re:Wow! by Fred+IV · · Score: 1

      Google seems to be suffering from feature overload of late.

      In what way are they suffering? Google continues to be the most useful search engine on the web. They're trying new things, but not at the cost of their core business. This feature isn't even out of development. It may never be on the Google home page. Would it be better if they never tried doing anything new?

    2. Re:Wow! by Tenareth · · Score: 1

      Agreed, they have added other products/features without really messing with the core search engine at all.

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    3. Re:Wow! by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Their core search engine becomes more and more useless every time I use it. It's now almost like thumbing blindly through the yellow pages, hoping to stumble on what I was looking for.

      I used to use it in troubleshooting all the time. I'd type in a verbatim error message, and almost always directly hit a forum post or KB article about that error. Now I get four thousand ebay redirects and amazon links.. bah

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  23. Looking for telecommuters? by Ophidian+P.+Jones · · Score: 1, Interesting
    This is an interesting way of looking for recruits. An individual interview is one thing -- I've seen some real losers get past that process. Google seems to be looking for a way to entice and reward developers who can use their l33t coding sk1llz in a team environment. It's one thing to be able to write good code -- the ability to work with other great coders is valuable indeed.

    Here's what Google values, from their Job Opportunities [google.com] page:
    What we look for when hiring great people:
    * People with broad knowledge and expertise in many different areas of computer science and mathematics, including distributed systems, operating systems, data mining, information retrieval, machine learning, performance optimization, algorithms, user interface design, statistical inference and information theory, and related areas.
    * People with world-class programming skills.
    * People with excellent communication and organizational skills.
    * People who are passionate about their work and are great colleagues.
    * People who enjoy working in a high-energy, unstructured environment on very small project teams to build amazing products used by millions of people every day.
    * People with diverse interests and skills.
    What intrigues me personally is that this contest took place in an online collaborative environment. Does this mean that Google is considering opening up to remote working -- as in, I can live in Dallas and "work" in the Googleplex? As much as I'd love to work at a place like Google, there's no way I'm moving to California.

    1. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by ikkonoishi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't mod this guy up.

      He is stealing someone else's post

      Original post Damn plagerist.
    2. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by WhiteBandit · · Score: 1

      The problem with crap like that is that you get nailed in Meta-Moderation since many moderators don't look at what context the comment was written in, nor do they look at the replies.

      Marking something like that as redundant/off-topic will most likely be over ruled in M2. :-/

    3. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      Yeah and looking at that guy's recent streak of glowing karma I would say that it has become a lifestyle.

      The karma system is starting to need a bit of an overhaul.

      Slashdot makes posters wait 20 seconds to post maybe it should make mods wait 60 to moderate.

    4. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hence, under/over-rated.

    5. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I'm metamoderating that post, and I am looking at the replies. You've got nothing to worry about...

  24. wrong, foo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    labs.google.com is slashdotted, not google.com.

  25. yp.yahoo.com by aberson · · Score: 1
    Is this really such a large step from yahoo yellow pages? I put in my location, search for bookstore, it sorts them by distance (after you ignore the sponsors)

    Is the point here that it also searches for each bookstore's website? Doesn't seem like a huge extension. What am I missing?

    1. Re:yp.yahoo.com by negative0 · · Score: 1

      It's not really such a huge leap. Normally yellow pages sites rely on databases of businesses, and the business addresses are geocoded into a lat/long point that can be mapped. Google is just taking addresses out of webpages and geocoding the page. This means you can search for more than just businesses near you. That is the innovation. Not the map display.

    2. Re:yp.yahoo.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Is this really such a large step from yahoo yellow pages? I put in my location, search for bookstore, it sorts them by distance (after you ignore the sponsors)

      Is the point here that it also searches for each bookstore's website? Doesn't seem like a huge extension. What am I missing?"


      Google is good at finding results that are considered "good" through its pagerank system. So, If I want to find a good pizza place in Anytown, USA maybe google's ranking system will let me know which places are most popular. If the first result is on "123 Fake St." that's where I'd go.

  26. I coudn't resist either. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was the guy standing in line behind you.

    You could have at least cleaned up a bit after you were done.

    1. Re:I coudn't resist either. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAH.. sloppy seconds..

  27. How about Google takes over Real Estate. by ahfoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That would be a trip.
    I tried the search and it failed on my quite a few times, but the potential is huge. The first thing that came to my mind was real estate.
    I've gone out looking for land with realtors that can't even find the lots they're supposed to be showing, and look how much they take in transaction fees for their "service." It' not like they do the Escrow themselves. I suppose it's a bit different for houses, but for land sales they act like they're doing you a favor.
    Not only that, but I've gone in with aerial photos and maps from the County that all come off of county maintained computer databases and the realtors inevitably insist their little hand drawn map that doesn't even accurately map the parcels is the more accurate solution.
    This could be the beginning of something huge for Google.

    1. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by revco_38 · · Score: 1

      I work with "County maintained maps" all day long and let me insist that the realtors (however much I might not want to argue this) will be more accurate half of the time. Most of the time the realtors work with Title Companies who have huge databases that trace every single property back lien by lien or "title chain". They have access to every deed filed of record and are able to present a more accurate representation of properties than the County half of the time. Or at least that is the story here in Texas. I could bore you all day long about property taxes and tax maps...

    2. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by Ryoji+Kaji · · Score: 1

      They ARE doing you a favor. They are providing you with their experience. Most people have no clue how the process of selling/buying real estate works, like how most people have no clue how to use a computer reasonably. A real estate agent, and more specifically realtors are expected to know fair price on lots and houses, and will generally get a better deal than someone working without an agent. Not using a real estate agent is like going to court without a lawyer. You might win, but your chances are generally much lower. This Google service could be used to help people find land for sale, but google won't compare to the service a realtor will give you.

    3. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by donutello · · Score: 1

      Your realtor is not charging you anything when you're buying a house. Your realtor does get paid, but not by you. Realtors are marginally useful when buying is concerned but unless you're buying a "For Sale by Owner", going with a realtor is not cheaper than going by yourself - so it's basically free to you.

      Realtors do offer tremendous value to the seller, however - whether or not this justifies the 6% that they charge is debatable but the value in terms of advising you on when and where to advertise, timing the sale, setting the price right, making the right fixes to improve the sale value, logistics such as working with the escrow company and lawyers to protect your rights, etc. can make you/save you a LOT of money when it comes to selling a house.

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    4. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by ahfoo · · Score: 1

      "Work with Title companies who have huge databases . . . "
      That's right. Realtors don't have these things at all, they just work WITH people who do. That's still not coming from the realtors themselves, is it? I mean, isn't it theoretically possible that a land management branch of Google could also work with a title company?
      It's like implying that travel agents work WITH the airlines so you can only buy tickets from them. But that's not the case. Why should real estate, and expecially raw land, be any different.

    5. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Not using a real estate agent is like going to court without a lawyer."
      Let me guess, you or someone in your family is in real estate.
      Speaking of service, I did, in fact, have a realtor offer to hook me up with his coke dealer once, so I suppose there is some truth to what you're saying.

    6. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's get this straight. There's a transaction going on. Two parties are making an exchange of money for property. A third party is taking six percent of the total transaction. But according to this amazing new math technique apparently involving looped boolean algebra, it's only going to cost one of the parties involved in the transaction.
      That is amazing. You should apply for a patent.

    7. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All your web are belong to us....

    8. Re:How about Google takes over Real Estate. by donutello · · Score: 1

      The seller pays both the buying and the selling agents commissions. If there is no buying agent, the selling agent keeps the commission - the seller does not get it back.

      Yes, if the seller chooses not to use a realtor, the seller could in theory sell the home cheaper (since they don't have to pay the 6%) and that's where the "For Sale by Owner" comes in, however as the buyer, whether or not YOU use a realtor, it still costs you the same.

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  28. Re:US-only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    260,000 of us might find it interesting :)

  29. Here's one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  30. Me by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    I am not one of the few dozen humans to ever leave our atmosphere, therefore space travel is not interesting. Just because you don't get personal benefit from it doesn't mean it is not interesting or news-worthy.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:Me by leandrod · · Score: 1
      > Just because you don't get personal benefit from it doesn't mean it is not interesting or news-worthy.

      It may be news-worthy -- for the US. It is not interesting to 90% of humankind until there are plans to expand it out of the US.

      Perhaps time to start an "International edition" of /.?

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    2. Re:Me by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      You're exactly right. It is far better to be completely ignorant of technology advances when they do not involve 100% of "humankind" during the development process.

      Dan East

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    3. Re:Me by leandrod · · Score: 1
      > far better to be completely ignorant of technology advances

      Which advances? There's nothing technological here, just another application. The only news here is that it is Google doing it.

      > when they do not involve 100% of "humankind" during the development process.

      I just want to be able to filter out US-specific stuff. Do you want to get every piece of tech news from Brazil or Switzerland or Ghana? And what do you have against humankind, do you want chimp news as well?

      Finally, I found no word about if and when Google intends to internationalise this stuff. There are loads of interesting stuf that never gets internationalised.

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  31. labs.google.com IS NOT google.com by s88 · · Score: 4, Informative

    How many posts are going to say "OMG we slashdotted google." This clearly is not running on there huge cluster. Its probably just a single server or something. Settle down, pigs are not flying.

    Scott

    1. Re:labs.google.com IS NOT google.com by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      Settle down, pigs are not flying.

      Somebody hasn't looked outside in the last 15 minutes.

    2. Re:labs.google.com IS NOT google.com by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Informative

      It probably is running on some kind of cluster. They're trying to get it up to production strength, and there wouldn't be much point in a public beta if they still haven't made it clusterable (ie scalable).

      Of course, you're right, that doesn't mean it's scaled. It's likely on ten machines, not a few thousand.

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  32. Already got it. by Spudley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here in the UK, you can use Multimap to acheive something close to this.

    Multimap's main use is simple as an online map, and it's used heavily here in the UK, but they do show pin-marks on the location of any services they know about.

    They only show links to certain categories of service (hotels, and the like), but limited though it is, the search by location service has been available for some time.

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    1. Re:Already got it. by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      Multimap is truly awesome... I started using it when I planned my trip to Ireland/England back in 2001. I really like the aerial map overlay feature... Using that, I was able to memorize what certain parts of London would look like, which allowed me to find my way around often times without a map. It was a weird feeling being able to find my way around without having been there before. :^)

    2. Re:Already got it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't work very well. I entered in "prostitute" and it gave me a list of train stations.

    3. Re:Already got it. by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      One other thing -- I am envious of the fact that British and Canadian postal codes resolve down to an exact building. I can just enter a postal code into a mapping website and know exactly where to go. Here in the states, a 5-digit ZIP code resolves to a huge area (not useful for finding a building), and a 9-digit ZIP code only resolves to a few buildings (more helpful, but not unless you like going door-to-door to find the right place). I think we could achieve single-building resolution if we use a 10-digit ZIP code, but I imagine this will probably never happen because people will be happy enough with nine digits. Sadly, it reminds me of the "640k is enough for anybody" argument. :^)

    4. Re:Already got it. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Yahoo Yellow Pages also does a similar thing.

      The novel part is that it gleans all of its information from web pages. Not from listing services with well formatted address fields.

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  33. Needs some work by jvmatthe · · Score: 1
    I searched for "used video games" and "Raleigh, NC" and the first ten results are about anything but video games. Try it for yourself, and figure out why the Teachers.Net trade show is listed.

    Bizarre.

  34. What if's by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I wonder how they will be enforcing the zip code registration. The main drive behind google and the page rank thing was to take search engine optimization off the page and out of the hands of the web master so as to avoid keyword stuffing and not-quite-honest optimization techniques.

    But it seems sort of hard to determine the "location" of a website without input from the people behind the site. There are possibilities for abuse.

    But maybe there's no incentive to be listed in the wrong zip code... well, maybe there is.

    If you do a lot of business on the web or by mail, and your physical location doesn't matter, you might post 100 versions of your site, each with the zip code of a large metropolitan area. But then how many people would do that?

    Ah hell, I don't know. I'm rambling...

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    1. Re:What if's by cybermace5 · · Score: 1

      If you do a lot of business on the web or by mail, and your physical location doesn't matter, you might post 100 versions of your site, each with the zip code of a large metropolitan area. But then how many people would do that?

      Far too many. It's already rampant on job sites where you can search by location. Those annoying link-portal sites will also offer "localized exposure" services or some other buzzphrase.

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    2. Re:What if's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Large metropolitan areas are broken down into smaller zip code sections. All Google has to do is limit a website to a single 5-digit zip code and use that as the center of its search. Yup, a company could put together 100 sites ... but if I am looking for a restaurant in an area and the restaurant isn't actually in that area ... no sale. Ditto for barbers or any other business that I would have to physically travel to. If the business (a plumber, for instance) is willing to travel to me without additional charge, I don't care where it is based.

      It isn't likely that I would even bother with a location search if I am looking for a mail order product. Location only matters if I and the service must somehow come physically together. A haircut, dental / medical work, home remodeling, taxicab, food delivery and so on. But, for a packet of seeds ... who cares where they start out?

    3. Re:What if's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      All Google has to do is limit a website to a single 5-digit zip
      Not feasible. It gets the zip codes from within the web page itself... If the page lists several addresses, and all of them are legitimate, how do you choose which one to use? And why should you choose only one? Most of the results I've gotten for my searches so far have been for directories and the like -- pages that list the addresses of several different businesses.
  35. Slashdotted Google !!! by Enzo1977 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Great, now its been slashdotted. Way to go people.

    Server Error
    The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
    Please try again in a minute or so.

    Google Labs - Search by Location FAQ - Terms of Use

    This map is informational only and user assumes all risk of use. MapQuest and its suppliers assume
    no responsibility for any losses or delays resulting from any such use.
    Use subject to license and copyright
    (C)2003 Google

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  36. This still needs work. by gatekeep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The results returned by this thing seem to be fairly irrelevant.

    When searching for 'food' with my office location I received the following results;

    -Food allergy and intolerances, fact sheet
    -Oriental grocery stores list for my area
    -Sources of free or low cost
    -Food science publications & journals
    -Thoughts on Food Safety
    -History of Hannakuh foods
    -Oriental grocery stores list (again)
    -foodandwine.com's best new chefs list

    Admittedly, 'food' is a pretty lame search, but I would've hoped to see a couple restaurants and grocery stores in the list.

    1. Re:This still needs work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're fairly irrelevant.

    2. Re:This still needs work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Admit it. You are that annoying guy in my office, who answers "what do you want for lunch" with the unhelpful "food", then vetos every suggestion.

  37. What you thought. by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

    Did you think it was like this? IP Address Locator

  38. Nice idea, but other pages are more useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's a nice idea in many respects but as a few people have posted, how is it really innovative?

    Here in the UK I've been using www.upmystreet.com, with which - based on a poscode that can usually locate an individual property - one can find businesses based on location, local representation, council performance, maps and all sorts of other information and even discussions based on location of user. It's a great idea and extremely well implemented and - which it might not be as elegant as searching the entire internet for web pages - is genuinely useful and adds hugely to what's possible through the yellow pages.

  39. Amazing... by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 1

    Try "Google LBS Server" as address and you should get a picture of a dust cloud which once has been just that server... ;)

  40. yahoo by yukster · · Score: 1

    Yahoo has had this capability for months. I was excited about it at first but a) I never do anything in this town and b) I'm lazy and always type my searches into Mozilla's address bar... so I always use google. Which is funny, cuz I think Google sucks!

    Oh, and it's still slashdotted at 10:05... har har har...

  41. Other map based searches.. by spludge · · Score: 1

    Personally I think that the superpages.com map based search is the best thing since sliced bread, I use it extensively to find businesses near me. The google search and the superpages search are different attacks at the same problem, I think that they complement each other well, but the superpages search is likely to turn up more information..

    Superpages map search

  42. Google cache? by LilJC · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Can someone post a google cache to this?

    (yes, I am joking)

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  43. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages - mod parent up. by esome · · Score: 1

    yeah, i had this same question. i mean, by definition it's looking for exactly the same sort of brinck and mortar places that have been in the phone book for ever. so, what would this have that the yahoo yellow pages doesn't?

  44. A San Diego Version by KrackHouse · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a (hopefully) non-slashdotted site that does the same thing although it only works in San Diego. SDcommunities.net
    I got the latitude and longitude data from the Census for zip codes and created a HUGE reference tables for the distances between zip codes. Lots of math in the search code.

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  45. nope.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it doesn't know where saddam is either.

    ph

  46. Obg South Park quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh my god, you slashdotted Google!

    You bastards!

  47. It's not new by f00zbll · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.superpages.com/ came out with mapbased search that uses an Applet a while back. And for those who remember Mapquest use to offer a similar feature back in the 90's. Google is a little late to the game. The application itself isn't all that hard to build. The real trick is providing a way for listees to correct the gps coordinates. For those familiar with GIS, that is the biggest problems. To my knowledge, VeriZon offers that capability to listees. You can easily test the accuracy of Goecodes by doing a search for the same address in mapquest, yahoo, and mappoint. You'll see the coordinates are not identical. Not only that, but each system uses a different level of precision. Only the military uses full precision, but then again they have to.

  48. WMD? by deltagreen · · Score: 1

    How come I get hundreds of documents when I search for "Weapons of mass destruction" in Washington DC?

    Oh wait, maybe an international version of this location-search is what the intelligence agencies have been using for finding WMD in Iraq. ;)

    1. Re:WMD? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      404 WMD NOT FOUND

      (yeah this is old, but still funny)

  49. Yahoo Yellow Pages - Not the same thing by coinreturn · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is this different from Yahoo Yellow Pages?

    Um, quite a bit of difference, theoretically. How about searching for parks, lakes, fire hydrants, mailboxes, phone booths, one-way streets, registered sex offenders, gullible people, etc.

  50. Wonderful, great! by realdpk · · Score: 1

    That's a great way to spend effort. I'm glad Google is concentrating on that rather than on making their search engine usable once again.

    The day they figure out a way to stop the keyword spammers will be a very, very good day for the Internet as a whole. Location targetted searching... er.. yawn.. any business out there that wants us to visit already has their city on their website anyways.

  51. Mobile applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There are a couple of wireless companies that do location based searches based on handset GPS coordinates. I worked on a location search application a long time ago using smart phones. It's not new. We even had a webpage that allowed you to track where the user was.

  52. Maybe not such a good thing? by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Slashdot seems to be very pro-Google, and I admit to using their search the majority of the time as well, but everyone should at least take a glance at google watch. Of most interest is the privacy section. If any other site were to track the stuff Google does, /. would be up in arms protesting.

    "Google currently does not allow outsiders to gain access to raw data because of privacy concerns. Searches are logged by time of day, originating I.P. address (information that can be used to link searches to a specific computer), and the sites on which the user clicked. People tell things to search engines that they would never talk about publicly -- Viagra, pregnancy scares, fraud, face lifts. What is interesting in the aggregate can seem an invasion of privacy if narrowed to an individual."

    Please note, this isn't a troll, and I'm not wearing a tin-foil hat (maybe I should?). Imagine the following scenario: a bomb goes off in the US. By tracing searches for "anarchist cookbook" to zipcodes within the area of the bomb blast, the FBI could have access to information that makes TIA look like a better alternative.

    Maybe this isn't such a good feature after all...

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    1. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by docwardo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Question here:

      But all this info IP address, variable values, and sites on which the user clicked....

      isn't that all just from most standard web server log?

      Technically doesn't /. record every page I click on, my orginating IP address and any searches I perform?

    2. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and for two weeks, they record which comments you write. Most other search engines will record the exact same information, and if someone is that paranoid, they should probably be using an anonymous proxy.

    3. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by DarthBobo · · Score: 1

      Oh my god!!!! Google keeps web server logs.

      OH MY F#@*&*(@# GOD! Somebody call John Ashcroft!

      Better keep this quiet, other companies might start keeping server logs as well ....

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    4. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by multi+io · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Searches are logged by [...] the sites on which the user clicked

      How is this done? The result links don't point to redirections...

    5. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 1

      Oh my god!!!! Google keeps web server logs.

      If it's just web logs, then while do they need that cookie on your computer with the unique ID and an expiry set to 2038?

      I can understand tracking search terms, but not when those searches are correlated to a unique cookie ID. What value is it to google be able to answer the question "what searches did the computer with cookie ID XYZ perform?" I don't think you'll find an answer to that question that doesn't make you want to buy reams of tin foil.

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    6. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't *need* a cookie unless you want to save your search preferences. Google works just fine without one.

    7. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not thinking with your conspiracy tinfoil hat on! Think of all the sites with Google ads now! They'll know when you visit any site with their ads, and they can link that to your searches. Also, Google occasionally does link tracking on random people to determine search result quality... or so they say! They're out to get you!

    8. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by anethema · · Score: 1

      Its exactly that. the only cookie google puts on your machine is to save search preferences like language. The other stuff is just regular weblog stuff that everyone, including /. records.

      If you're worried, disable cookies for google. It will work just fine.

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    9. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, every now and then the result links are redirects. Just not very often, perhaps it even depends on what was searched.

    10. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by EinarH · · Score: 1
      I think the difference could be that Google collects the data not for the standard "we are keeping the server logs for security" but more as a future business opportunity or in case they can construct some new search options. They can collect enormous amounts of data no one else can collect. Some day they might sell accsess to "trusted partners" that can mine the data.
      Don't blame them, after all they can earn huge amounts of money on this, but that does not mean that we should not be worried.

      I think this is yet another reason to turn of those cookies and browse through a proxy if you are conserned about privacy. Not exactly bulletproff privacy, but better that nothing.

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    11. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 1

      isn't that all just from most standard web server log?

      I already said this for the post below yours, but it bears repeating.

      Yes, web sites keep logs of a lot of this stuff. I guess it's even possible that slashdot could store a bunch of info about logged in users with regards to links that they've clicked on, etc.

      However, we are talking about Google here. For most people, Google is the starting point for any web traversing they'll do that doesn't involve bookmarked-sites.
      I'll try to provide a decent analogy that explains why I'd be more worried about Google tracking this stuff than /.: If you go to the grocery store and use their "club card", you are having personal information stored into a database about your purchases -- consider that the same as /. storing stuff about you. Now imagine that some company is tracking your car/bike/and walking habits. They know where you've travelled to, what you were looking for when you travelled there, and when you started your journey. That worries me far more than some grocery store keeping track of the fact I like fruit rollups.

      And it's not just a simple matter of web logs. Why does google need a cookie on your computer with a unique ID? Why is that cookie set to (effectivly) never expire? What possible reason could Google have for linking your unique ID to your search terms....

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    12. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly is Google tracking what you link? 99.999% of the time, they're not doing link tracking. All they know is what you search for the rest of the time.

      Google does NOT need a cookie. It's totally optional, and it save your settings.

    13. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      90% of the complaints on Google-Watch are from "search engine optimizers."

      That is, people are upset that they can't manipulate listings on Google for money. (Hint: Buy a fucking ad.) Forgive me if that makes me want to ignore Google-Watch.

      Google's privacy policy is well defined. If you've got a problem with it, holler. Your scenario would pretty clearly violate their policy. If you've got some other way that they should do their business without losing features, holler.

      Till then, quit hinting.

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    14. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by oojah · · Score: 1

      buy reams of tin foil

      It occurs to me that a ream refers to a number of sheets (nothing to do with the size of the sheet), and that a roll of tin foil is a single sheet. This means that "reams of tin foil" would refer to at least 1000 rolls and at, say 10m in length, 40cm in width (both guesses), you would end up with 10km*40cm (or 10m*400m) of tin foil.

      Are you that paranoid? :)

      Anyway, apologies, it's 9pm and I've been at work since 9am...

      Cheers,

      Roger

      --
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    15. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 1

      Are you that paranoid? :)

      Heh...I, too, have been at work for too long. ;-)

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    16. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by sbszine · · Score: 1

      Google Watch was set up by a guy who felt slighted that he couldn't unfairly manipulate his PageRank. Full story here.

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    17. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by twiin · · Score: 1

      And for those of you visiting Google Watch, I also suggest a trip to Google Watch Watch.

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  53. Last I checked by Kjella · · Score: 1

    ...they linked to the subpoena stating that they couldn't link to said site. Which is about as much as I'd expect them to do. At least you know they're being censored, and can dispute it. I really don't expect Google as a business to get involved in a long and costly lawsuit over the legality of linking. Particularly when the "censoring" only makes it more interesting and popular, and they can laugh at whoever tried to censor it in the first place...

    Kjella

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  54. unstoppable force by Docrates · · Score: 1, Redundant

    So the unstoppable force won against the unmovable object... This google feature has been slashdotted.

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  55. maybe I can find the lonely horny housewifes.. by johoho · · Score: 0

    .. in my area that all the spam promises to me :-)

    Wiktor

  56. nope... by professorhojo · · Score: 5, Funny

    it doesn't know where saddam is either...

    ph

    1. Re:nope... by MImeKillEr · · Score: 1

      It can't find Bin Laden anywhere either!

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    2. Re:nope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only can it not find Saddam, but it can't locate the Weapons of Mass Destruction homepage. It just returns a 404 error. You'd think with VeriSign's nifty new service, you would be redirected magically to the right page, but noooooo...

    3. Re:nope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "it doesn't know where saddam is either.."

      It would only work if he were in the US

  57. It works so good its scary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I searched for unlaid, unwashed geeks sitting in darkened rooms in the middle of the day bathed only in the light from an LCD while posting to Slashdot anonymously and it fired up the quickcam sitting on top of my monitor and automatically made a picture of me the desktop background image.

  58. Already done... by cnelzie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Check out www.smartpages.com

    It is an online yellow pages. Each listed company has a small 'web-page' that provides a link to the actual external web-page, if available, as well as a mapquest map, address and main contact phone number.

    I use that site ALL the time looking up potential service vendors for the company I work for.

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    1. Re:Already done... by Wonderkid · · Score: 1

      And we are soon to start seeking businesses to be listed at www.gonumber.net. Some initial customers can be seen at GoNumber.net/hot. The major upgrade we are working on is based on Open Source too and will offer the kind of affordable location based listings small businesses desire - photos included.

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  59. PLAGIARIZED POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a direct paste of comment #6986714 attached
    to the article on the Google Jam contest (search
    for page keyword GooglePlex). I would've posted
    a direct link, but due to a combination of unfortunate factors,
    I'm stuck to lynx for today.

  60. Congratulations, you've slashdotted Google! by redbaron7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    After a lot of trying, you've finally slashdotted Google! lol

    I keep getting server errors when I try searching for things like donuts or my own webpage. Either that, or it thinks Irving,TX is a black hole. Hmm, don't answer that.

    RB

  61. Re:Great, but... (the three Ls) by gosand · · Score: 5, Funny
    How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?

    You should probably change the location to something other than "my parent's basement".

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  62. Tori Amos, ewww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After putting up with a year of a roommate obsessed with her, I don't think I could ever be friends with anyone that likes her.

  63. Re:US-only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wait...there's something outside the US? ;)

  64. Did Daniel Get any $$ for this? by mogrinz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, beyond the 10K he made in the contest. Did Google give him a job? Or did they basically get this great idea (and a lot of others) for the low-low price of $10,000?

  65. John Ashcroft can relax, Google is on the case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Google can entice enough people into registering for some cool new service, Google will be able to connect your identity to your searches and your surfing habits. No need for TIA.

    And by the way, it's only a matter of time before you can type in a person's name and find their location.

  66. Google keeps a logfile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Searches are logged by time of day, originating I.P. address (information that can be used to link searches to a specific computer), and the sites on which the user clicked."

    Incredible! Their webservers have logfiles, you say? I'm very concerned.

  67. ./ed already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is a wimp compared to the power of ./!!

  68. Re:US-only by KGBear · · Score: 1
    Sim, poderia server para outros paises - se esses outros paises tivessem um banco de dados publico de enderecos por CEP tao bom quanto o americano. De qualquer forma, pra mim e interessante: moro no Colorado, EUA.

    Translation from Portuguese:

    Yes, it might be useful in other countries, if said countries had a public ZIP code database as good as the American one. Anyway, it's interesting to me: I live in Colorado, USA.

  69. Subversive? Hardly... by Midnight+Ryder · · Score: 1

    Note that even though they took down the Kazaa Lite search listing they still found a subversive way to pass the url along.

    I wouldn't call it subversive - just enter "Kazaa Lite" into Google's search box, and hit the button. KazaaLite's main site comes up as the first hit! :-)

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  70. New slogan by Wuffle · · Score: 1

    Google, making identity theft and stalking easier for you, one day at a time....

  71. IT'S OFFICIAL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taken from http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_pa ge/0,5936,7351084%255E1702,00.html.

    Australia 'world's gayest country'

    23sep03
    MORE than 47 per cent of Australians are involved in gay or lesbian relationships, putting the country equal first in the world for its proportion of homosexuals, according to a new worldwide survey.

    The survey of sexual habits by international condom maker Durex found that together with Americans, Australians had the highest proportion of same-sex relationships.

    At the other end of the scale, Vietnam recorded the lowest proportion of gay and lesbian relationships, at three per cent.

    The company said Australians enjoyed a busy love life, having sex on average 125 times per year.

    Hungarians came out on top, having sex 152 times per year.

    But Australians were still ahead of Americans, at 118 times a year.

    The survey also found phone, text and cyber sex were gaining in popularity in Australia, with 43 per cent indulging in "virtual reality sex".

    The company said faking orgasms was also common in Australia, with 47 per cent of respondents admitting to doing so at least once.

    This was almost twice the global average of 26 per cent.

    The survey found 41 per cent of Australian men and women had sex for the first time because they were in love, and most agreed that more foreplay would improve their sex life.

    The company said more than 150,000 people took part in the on-line survey, which was now in its seventh year.

  72. No useful service.... by mseeger · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... covers only one country with unreliable power supply ;-).

    Regards, Martin

    1. Re:No useful service.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FOAD

    2. Re:No useful service.... by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 1

      Covering how many countries with unreliable power supplies would make make this useful to you? :)

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  73. Pigeonrank II(?) by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    Would this now be Homing pigeonrank?

    These are the jokes, folks, these are the jokes...

  74. Re:Subversive? Hardly... by kfg · · Score: 1

    And the ninth hit is still the link to the C&D letter listing all the urls they were "ordered" to remove.

    KFG

  75. sex : berkeley by Dysphoric · · Score: 1

    J00 BR0K3 D4 53RV3R ?00 !! 7H3 53Rv3R 15 |)3d !!1F d4 pR0bL3m p3r5i57Z, pl34Z3 m41L google@google.com(teh win) 4nD m3n710N 7H15 3rr0R M3554G3 aNd d4 qu3Ry 7H4T C4U53D i7.

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  76. The Future for this Search by Ridgelift · · Score: 1

    At the rate Microsoft is going, soon every search will result in a location of Redmond, Washington.

    All roads lead to Gates

  77. Google and your location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


    Type in a US phone number with area code into google and if your phone number is not a private number/mobile phone google will display your name, address and a map to your house.

  78. US ZIp?! by anonieuweling · · Score: 1

    Just a US zip. How lame. I expected more from Google. Really!

    1. Re:US ZIp?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, I accidentally modded you up. Your comment sucks. Please do not take this as encouragement to ever post anything ever again.

  79. MapQuest MapBlast by hey · · Score: 1

    I see Google uses MapQuest.
    For a second I thought of MapBlast!
    Which is now owned by the evil empire (MSFT).
    Its getting harder and harder to avoid their
    tentacles these days.

  80. Yeah, let's try that by michiel.h · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What next, Google-RIAA search; 'enter a kazaa username and google will give you the IP address, personal information, credit card number, and home address of the user!'
    Alright, let's try that.
    First, a quick search of most active username on kazaa.
    Ah, there we have it. Now, let's find some info on this bastard.

    -- --
    Google 'Search by location' search term: kazaaliteuser@kazaa.com
    Google 'Search by location' region: USA

    Google found 2.304.942 search results:

    Alabama

    A. Allan
    1425 21st Street South, Suite 208
    Anniston, AL 12205

    A. Andrews
    517 Beacon Parkway West
    Anniston, AL 25209

    A. Baccus
    106 W Third St
    Birmingham, AL 35674

    ......
    ....
    ..


  81. Imagine... by Cranx · · Score: 1

    Combining this service with RFID tags...

  82. Well... by belgar · · Score: 1

    It then gives you a map with each search result pinned on it. V"

    I don't get V, you insensitive clod!

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  83. Kicks Ass! by keester · · Score: 1

    Anyone interested in a steak dinner in Chicago? http://labs.google.com/location?q=steak&geo_near=c hicago+IL&Search=Google+Search

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  84. Bush can use this by g8oz · · Score: 1

    I can just see Bush now....

    Search Term: Osama
    Location: Afghanistan

    Then its a simple matter of tying the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button to a GPS controlled cruise missile.

  85. Duh, where do you think the geek-girls go? by sillypixie · · Score: 1
    I'd have to guess, that if you wanted to meet geek chicks, you're already in the right place...

    As for hot and single, I guess you'll actually have to talk to them and find out, hmm? Did you actually want to talk to a geek, or were you just looking for porno pics of someone with big jugs, playing with a slide rule in interesting ways?

    It's funny, I tend to get modded up when I identify myself as a geek-girl, so if that phenomenon holds true for others like me, wouldn't that mean that when you surf at a decent threshold, you should have a good chance of meeting one of us?

    BTW - full disclosure: not single (or looking), just trying to find out if you geek-boys really want what you say you want...

    pixie

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  86. Watch the neighborhood by manmanic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is great... combined with something like GoogleAlert you could watch for anything new springing up in your neighborhood!

    1. Re:Watch the neighborhood by markkellman · · Score: 1

      This would definitely work to create a local awareness service. Interesting if you could also combine the RSS feeds on the back end to get automation. I think Google Alert has RSS operable. I wonder if Google will open up the location search results to RSS output.

  87. Google Geographoogle by lorenbake · · Score: 1

    Is Geographic Google going to make the search engine optimization heads go crazy with spamming zip codes all over their sites or creating multiple geographic pages? http://blogsearchengine.com/blog/index.php?p=13

  88. name? by myusername · · Score: 1

    They have google and froogle. I wonder if they will call this Locoogle, or Locationoogle?
    Just a thought...

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  89. Geographoogle by lorenbake · · Score: 0, Redundant

    On Monday, Google released an experiment on Google Labs, a pre-launch beta testing site, called Google Search by Location which enables users to find information by geographic location. Search Engine Ranking Nuts gonna start posting zip codes all over their sites? Geographoogle

  90. Could it work another way? by Marcus+Brody · · Score: 1

    It works like this, according to the FAQ:

    How does Google search by location work? Google search by location takes a new approach to helping users find geographic information on the web. For this experiment, we've done something new by analyzing the entire content of a page to extract hints or, what we call "signals," about the geographic nature of a page. From this information, Google determines the corresponding physical location and returns results that match the geographic range you specify (e.g., "near Jacksonville, Florida"). This provides a much broader range of businesses in most cases.

    Could it also use the addresses from the WHOIS database? I think this could help in many instances - e.g. alot of personal and bussiness addresses will be correct in the WHOIS database. This could very easily provide correct location data worldwide.

    Also, what about those network tools ("hacker trackers") that provide location information according to IP address. I do not think this would work as well, as it would obviously give the server address, rather than the location relevant to the website.

  91. Appears buggy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that Google link has a lot of bugs... I crashed their server with one of my test searches.

  92. Eariler this month Overture tested this by Syncalot · · Score: 1

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?sou rce=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7B60B5E8C 0%2D9BC1%2D421E%2D95FE%2D56071793DABD%7D bascially the same idea, the site is no longer working since they where running a test.. http://localdemo.overture.com/

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  93. Don't feel bad... by John3 · · Score: 1

    ...as I also had no luck with my search.

    "Your search for intelligent executive branch leadership near Washington, DC did not match any documents within 15 miles."

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    1. Re:Don't feel bad... by bluGill · · Score: 1

      Your search was for too narrow. Even my search for intelligent political leadership near the Milky Way yielded no results.

      My search for intellicent future leadership revealed only one canidate: me. Saddly I suspect that your results will varry on this one. Write me in for the next ellection though.

  94. not foo... fubar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "foo" is a term we use when referring to an arbitrary variable. The word you're looking for in relation to this particular server in the google.com domain is "fubar."

    1. Re:not foo... fubar by eatdave13 · · Score: 1

      You're wrong too, f00l!

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  95. Europe should be fairly easy... by Ian.Waring · · Score: 1

    About two years ago, I proposed a project to build a UDDI directory covering every web site "in" Europe. We reckoned it would cost around $3 million and 18 months to get to full flight, including adding new sites as they popped up (and allowing people to reclassify themselves if needed). This was to include geocoding so that we could return search results in order of proximity to the end user (when most people here look up Yellow pages, they typically look for local suppliers first).

    There are some fairly inexpensive geocoding products around that can map any European postal address to longitude/latitude (some places like Eire don't have ZIP codes implemented, and in other places like Spain, the geography covered by a single code is quite big. For the UK, a postcode covers around 10 houses).

    The main issues are having enough elves (University Students with sector expertise - most asked to be paid in Amazon vouchers!) to verify the machine guessed classifications - there are around 14,000 categories to choose from). And to be able to handle situations where one web site maps onto a list of 600 local stores (often hidden behind the scenes in a database), or to know the size of geography each serves.

    At the time, the telco where I worked got hit with the bursting bubble, and all the funds for more speculative projects dried up overnight.

    I wonder how much effort it would take for Google to become *the* definitive UDDI directory now?

  96. Patent issue prediction... by braddock · · Score: 1

    I'm betting there is going to be a lot of patent litigation in this area of location-based web searching. This is an area that a lot of small R&D companies have been toying with for years now, and they all think they're really damn clever. A friend of mine applied for a job with a location-based web search start-up in Massachusetts, and they allowed him onto their demo server; it was quite impressive (far better than this google system), but they had such an air of secrecy about them that you could smell the patents being printed in the back room.

    -braddock

  97. Re:Duh, where do you think the geek-girls go? by bluGill · · Score: 1

    As soon as I know what I want...

    Several times I've made a long list of things that I'd like in the perfect girl (each list very different). Then I found a girl that met everything on the latest list, with one exception: we could not stand each other.

    My list is now down to: Single girl who I can stand to be around. Unfortunatly I'm still a geek, given an opportunity to meet new girls I'd get scared and run to the computer for a nice coding session.

  98. Stop hitting it, geez! by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    "strip clubs in LA"

    Server Error
    The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
    Please try again in a minute or so.

    arrrgh!

  99. I, for one ... by Greedo · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new US overlords.

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  100. error by mlong · · Score: 1
    Server Error The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.

    Please try again in a minute or so.

    Yep...that's great. I wonder if it gives the same error in every zip code?

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  101. WMD search finds results in Washington! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Searched for "weapons of mass destruction" in "washington dc" and got lots of hits:
    http://labs.google.com/location?q=weapons+o f+mass+ destruction&geo_near=washington+dc&Search=Google+S earch

    "empty warhead" in the same area got me a server error. Strange, I thought there was at least one in the white house.

  102. Wouldn't this be easier with DNS LOC records? by bastion · · Score: 1

    I admit that this would be more overhead for DNS administration but the capability resides within DNS to effectively tag sites (even on thousands of virtual servers in an apache farm) using LOC records. Maybe I'm totally wrong but wouldn't it just be easier to do a reverse lookup of the user (getting the LOC for the ISP IP pool) and matching it to a corresponding LOC record from a pool of service types?

    Of course LOC records are not widely used.

  103. not single building accuracy but nearly by fantomas · · Score: 1

    Alas British postcode doesn't resolve to single buildings, Jon Abbott, it varies depending on where you live. My parents postcode gives even numbered houses on their suburban street, 21 properties. My postcode resolves to 3 houses ( I live on the edge of town near a farm).


    You can have a play by going to http://www.royalmail.com (free login required) and trying "address finder" and typing in a postcode. Choice of English language or Welsh.

    1. Re:not single building accuracy but nearly by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      Interesting... Whenever I tried an address, it always resolved down to one building. Then again, I only used the feature for London addresses -- do you think this may have made a difference?

    2. Re:not single building accuracy but nearly by fantomas · · Score: 1

      no idea, maybe you got lucky or are looking at big houses? :-)


      I used to live at E8 3PR (Hackney, east London) and that gives all the even numbered houses in the street (London Lane)

  104. A great day! by Michael+Crutcher · · Score: 1

    I just tried to do a search for chinese delivery near my house. Google responded with a server too busy message. Granted, I'm sure this service isn't on Google's main cluster of servers, but nontheless, we slashdotted google!!

    This is indeed a monumentous occassion for geeks everywhere.

  105. Server Error by cpopin · · Score: 1

    The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request. Please try again in a minute or so. Google got /.ed!

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  106. Still Some Bugs? by technix4beos · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hrm... Not quite there yet.

    Searching for Microsoft and Redmond in the search and location fields yields nothing.

    From Google's regular search engine I get these results.

    I think they still have some work cut out for them. Granted, it's a great feature, but nothing earth-shattering, since the concept of "yellow pages" has been online for a very long time.

    Some notable YP type engines that I might suggest:

    - Yahoo Yellow Pages
    - InfoSpace
    - Bigfoot

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    1. Re:Still Some Bugs? by indianajones428 · · Score: 1

      Try searching for Redmond, Washington

      Granted, the results aren't nearly as relevant as when using Google's main page, but there ARE results if you follow the instructions.

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    2. Re:Still Some Bugs? by sholden · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the ability of idiots to ignore instructions.

      Which one of the three options given for location: "US address", "city & state", and "zip", does "Redmond" fit into?

      RTFM

  107. Oh yeah! by r_j_prahad · · Score: 1

    Your search for "nudie bars" in "Portland, OR" returned 26 locations.

    This service definitely has possibilities. Oh BTW, I'll be calling in sick tomorrow.

    1. Re:Oh yeah! by valkraider · · Score: 1

      How hard is it to find one in Portland? For crying out loud, there is just about one on every major street...

      Er, I mean, I would guess there were - only from driving by on my way to church...

  108. Too Yank-centric! by JudgeDredd · · Score: 1

    I live in Canada, you insensitive Clod!

  109. Gimme a T, T-R-O-L-L by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy's a troll. Mod down. He's not SETH FINKELSTEIN.

  110. You Slashdotted Google? - You're going to HELL! ; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/m

  111. Page errored out by $exyNerdie · · Score: 1

    It is not ready yet. I just ran that search on my zip code with term "storage" and it gave the following error message:


    Server Error
    The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
    If the problem persists, please mail google@google.com and mention this error message and the query that caused it.


    Google Labs - Search by Location FAQ - Terms of Use

    This map is informational only and user assumes all risk of use. MapQuest and its suppliers assume
    no responsibility for any losses or delays resulting from any such use.
    Use subject to license and copyright
    (C)2003 Google

  112. Quick, someone search for WMD! by indros13 · · Score: 1
    Hey Google Labs,

    This is just what we needed, thanks!

    -GWB, DC, and DR

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  113. we found the WMDs!!!!!! by xutopia · · Score: 1

    http://labs.google.com/location?q=weapons+of+mass+ destruction&geo_near=washington+dc&Search=Google+S earch

  114. Google Code Jam 20037 by teko_teko · · Score: 1

    Something that's also interesting: The Google Code Jam 2003

    Anyone can hack together a linked list inverter. A lot of programmers can put out something more elegant, given unlimited time and resources. Some can even solve complex problems under pressure. But only a handful of coders crank out brilliant code when faced with a mind-bending challenge and a looming deadline. For them, impossible demands are the ones that begin to get just a bit interesting.

    We have some serious problems and we'd like to share them with people who are motivated by that kind of challenge. So, you're invited to take part in the Google Code Jam 2003, a programming competition that will be worthy of your time, your skills and your interest.

    There are rewards up to $10,000. Check the link above for more info.

  115. Towards a stock IPO? by whovian · · Score: 1

    Such a useful service smells of another link in the chain toward a blockbuster initial public offering of stock, though the company has maintained staying private during 2003.

    Here's a recent article at Mercury News.

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  116. Re:US-only by leandrod · · Score: 1
    > might be useful in other countries, if said countries had a public ZIP code database as good as the American one

    The Brazilian for one is even better. Google just has to pay for it, since access is public but has a cost.

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  117. GPS location by PeterJFraser · · Score: 1

    I have wished for some time that there was a standard way of putting a GPS location into a html document. The GPS location would default to a server supplied location if it was set explicitly set by the writer, and hopefully system administrators could be convinced to supply default locations.

    It would be so nice to be able to ask Google where the closest Mexican restaurant was.

  118. Usefull if you live in the region... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....which most don't...

  119. Just in time! by Fishstick · · Score: 1

    I really need this!

    I was searching yesterday for possum traps, animal control, suchlike because I have a possum living under my back step I want to get rid of. Nothing personal, he just smells really bad and I want to find someone who will trap and release him somewhere else.

    My seach came up with lots of hits, but all were in .au or .nz

    Is possum trapping a big thing down-under? I tried to change my search to look for midwest suppliers, but I couldn't come up with anything.

    Hope this helps (when it recovers from whatever is wrong with it right now).

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    Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  120. Hmm by christoofar · · Score: 1

    I tried searching for "Crack Dealers" in "Dallas, TX" and couldn't find any. Oh well.

  121. Does it work? by malachid69 · · Score: 1

    I tried 3-4 different search criteria (ie: address, city/state, zip, etc)... but everytime I got a server error. Has anyone got it to work?

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  122. It appears you are getting on everyone's shitlist. by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    :-)

    HAND

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  123. Google has been slashdotted! by Jason+Mark · · Score: 1

    Server Error The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. If the problem persists, please mail google@google.com and mention this error message and the query that caused it.

  124. It works for me! by GQuon · · Score: 1

    This search works.

    Your search for "people with a clue" near 355 S 520 W, Lindon, UT did not match any documents within 15 miles.

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  125. LoL by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    Man are the guys at Google monitoring this thing gonna get a kick when they see a search pop up for "WMD" originating from the Whitehouse.

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  126. Re:It appears you are getting on everyone's shitli by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? With 4 accounts at capped karma, I can't help but wonder if he's just on your shitlist.

  127. I gotta move by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    Your search for hookers near 08234 did not match any documents within 15 miles.
    Your search for sluts near 08234 did not match any documents within 15 miles.
    Your search for cheap beer near 08234 did not match any documents within 15 miles.

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  128. What data to use? by spruce · · Score: 1

    Well if you look at the original description of the project it used data from TIGER and
    FIPS , which are US centric, so if that's the way it's still being done, I guess they'd need that data for the rest of the world.

  129. Not just food by Daetrin · · Score: 1
    I tried "coffee shops", and the first 25 or so pages it returned were all from "www.laokay.com" because the advertisement link at the bottom of each of the pages had "California Coffee Shops of the 1950's and 60's from the archives of Armet and Davis" as the alternate text. One of those pages was about coffee shops, the others were about sushi, chicken, gardens, academic libraries, and all other kinds of irrelevant crap.

    Clearly they need some kind of ranking system like with the normal search engine.

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  130. Re:It appears you are getting on everyone's shitli by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With four accounts at capped karma, I can't help but wonder what the fuck is wrong with this person.

  131. interesting but... by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 1

    Today trying to send flowers to a friend I found it much faster to search for florists in the proper area using the phone company's online directory than google's location based search. The google search came up with the usual national online services I was trying to avoid rather than truly local florists.

  132. privacy by noelo · · Score: 2

    type in 'sex' and 'new york' as the location and the first thing it comes up with is the registry of sex offenders...hmmm very useful for vigilantes

  133. No, this is new by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Smartpages.com is built around the same database they use to generate the classifed listings (Yellow Pages) in the phone book. Which makes each entry a kind of advertisement: you have to pay to get into the Yellow Pages in the first place, and you have to pay extra to get your web page linked in Smartpages.com.

    For example, search for "books" in a particular area code. You get a bunch of YP categories. Drill down to a particular bookstore and you get the YP listing, plus the obligatory Yahoo map. Since the bookstore didn't pay for a link to their own web site Smartpages.com doesn't provide one.

    Now do the same search on Google location. You get bunch of book-related links for the area, all nicely plotted on a map. What's really interesting is that many of the links are not for the home page of the business or entity being found, but for a more popular page that references it. (The abovementioned bookstore is represented by an entry on a publisher site.) I suppose that counts as a bug, since you usually want to go straight to someone's own web site. Still, it's terribly impressive that they can so consistently associate address with the correct adressee based on free-form information.

    Google does so much neat stuff, I can almost forgive them for moving into the ugliest building in Silicon Valley.

  134. US-only... by ZvlvLord · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good day,
    Would it hurt the story submitters and/or the moderators to mention it when something is US specific ? Not that we have anything against it, but I'm tired on clicking on a link to only find out that whatever the link is pointing to is US-specific. I was excited by this search-by-location feature and then... saw that it was only for the US. Feel free to mod me down if you want, but Slashdot's readership is NOT 100% American. Get a clue.

  135. Which Redmond did you mean? by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Try entering "Redmond WA". No geographic engine can work with an ambiguous place name -- try it with one of the mapping sites. Of course, the correct response is to give the user a list of matching locations, not just fail the search. But hey, it's beta software, and very impressive beta software at that.

    I'm bemused by all the posts that insist that this is nothing new, because there are all these Yellow Page database sites. Does it not occur to anybody that (a) you have to pay for a YP listing and (b) pulling street addresses out of a massive collection of free-form web pages is a lot more impressive than retrieving them for a standard relational database?

  136. A Fondue Restaurant by cpopin · · Score: 1

    Localized search found it!

    The Melting Pot is an interesting twist on an old 70's family fun fad, only upscale. My wife and I dined there in Chicago and fell in love.

    You table has it's own hot grill. Everything is cooked, served, melted, right in front of you. It's a great date experience!

    The Melting Pot

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  137. And now thanks to Google: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strip Clubs have never been easier to find.

  138. Re:Duh, where do you think the geek-girls go? by CoolQ · · Score: 1

    BTW - full disclosure: not single (or looking), just trying to find out if you geek-boys really want what you say you want...

    (emphasis mine)

    See, that's the problem. All (most?) the geek girls are already taken. And so are all the hot girls (and of course all the hot geek girls :P)

    Of course, a bigger problem is our lack of social skills. I was talking to a relatively tech-savvy semi-loner girl (someone who is conceivably within my reach), and I literally tripped over my own bag, and threw the Palm in my hand 20 feet while walking and talking to her. Luckily, she didn't say anything about it. But you get the idea...

    --Quentin
  139. Re:Duh, where do you think the geek-girls go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chicks like guys who fall for them. :)

    Seriously, dude ... if she at least waited until you got back up, you're on the "A" list!

  140. WAIT A MINUTE......... by Allnighterking · · Score: 1

    Please don't forget yp.yahoo.com....... Yep once again google comes out with a brand new technology that yahoo has had for ages (*evile grin*)

    Oh... if I live in California but my web server is in Edmonton and my files are served from a box in Michigan...... who gets to see my pages?

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  141. Re:Useful service - Lets find jobs by thenumberone · · Score: 1

    I've been wating this for a long while now. For us slashdotters that are looking for jobs this can help. I've been able to do a search for employment for my city. It came back with some sites that I had would never of found before.

  142. well, it's just not fair. by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    That's too much work: logging in and out and everything.
    In fact, I was plesantly surprised that other people started to notice after my prodding.

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    1. Re:well, it's just not fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my god, you're a fucking loser.

      get a life.

  143. My favorite Google Hack... by jbum · · Score: 1

    ...is MetaScope, which performs Google Image searches inside a Windows screensaver.

    The real hack is the bizarre mind-reading trick:

    http://www.krazydad.com/metascope_mindreading.ht ml

    A brilliant, yet very simple idea. Wish I'd thought of it :)

  144. Locality-based sites already exist by Krellan · · Score: 1

    Locality-based sites already exist, and are eager for location-based advertising as you suggest. Here's one of the better ones (and quite possibly the very first one):

    http://www.local2me.com/

    There's a thriving community of people here, who swap recommendations for services such as plumbers and veterinarians. It's essentially a nationwide message board that filters by distance from you to the poster, so you end up only seeing the very few posts that are pertinent to your location. Advertisements are also filtered by the relevancy of their location to you. A nice idea that seems to work well!

  145. Don't you see, it's the REACH that betrays you... by sillypixie · · Score: 1
    Yes, the big problem is your social skills, but maybe not in the way you think.

    This whole concept of a girl being in your reach is something that guys do that I don't understand. I will admit to you that there are very few geeks that I find attractive, but it's mostly because of that exact attitude.

    I don't know how to say this and not sound stupid, but you are worthy of anything that you believe you are worthy of. Having been through a computer science degree in a major university, where I was one of very few girls, I have seen it all, and there are a few things that I can guarantee:

    • confident girls won't date guys who don't have a basic level of confidence themselves
    • by judging someone "out of your reach" you are by definition not confident in your abilities
    • what most guys don't get, is that by judging a woman "within your reach", if she suspects that you have that whole system of "reach" to start with, you are wrecking your chances. Nobody wants to be a consolation prize, or the "best" that can be hoped for.
    So, WTF, right? Here's the truth (according to me, for whatever that's worth) - I am not attracted to someone who fearfully calculates their chances with me - I want someone who believes that if they want me they can have me. If you can look me in the eye, with no apology for who you are, and better yet, if I can see a gleam of intelligence and humor there too... well that's about the most attractive thing I can dream of, intellectually and emotionally. Getting to the place where you can do that is the hard part - for myself, it's taken a long time. But the rewards are plentiful.

    pixie

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