You are wrong. Humanity is larger than entire solar systems which we will one day colonize as well.
Look, the environment has been damaged yes but not irreperably so. We can survive and adapt and later on fix the things we've done. Our damage to the environment is not some pathetic goth emo justification for letting our civilization die out.
Quit being a traitor to your DNA's intrinsic instincts for self-preservation and knock off the self hate already!
You are 1 for 2. Yes I am a Sociopath, but I like to get my freak on so I usually vote Democrat.
Thanks for being a stereotyping jerk though!
Us Sociopaths need to form a lobbying organization to advance our rights. How about the National Sociopath Association? We can call it the NSA! Wait that one's taken...
Before the Gore/Bush election there was widespread sentiment that the two parties were too similar to care about who won. A lot of people simply did not vote because they couldn't see a real difference between the Republican and Democratic parties.
That was generally seen as a bad attitude for the electorate to have. SO, the Republicans kicked it up a notch and broadcast to the world stark reminders that they are super-religous, over-judgemental, pricks.
So now that the two sides have re-declared their base positions you think thats a BAD thing? Which one do you want? Are we partisan or non-partisan? I don't think there's a middle ground. I don't want to be sorta-partisan. Thats just half assing it. Who wants to phone in hate? COME ON, PUT YOUR BACK INTO IT!
What you say philosophically is true but in reality no one is going to start a revolution over DRM'd media. I'm not about to put my life on the line for an episode of Charles in Charge or a Madonna album.
On both OS X and Linux you can always access the terminal. So for those who abhor the GUI the terminal is always there. In such a case why is it such a bad thing if the GUI is constantly improved?
As for task switching, in addition to Expose Leopard (the next version of OS X) will have Spaces which is just their late entry into the virtual desktops arena. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/spaces.html
Perhaps Expose doesn't organize YOUR workflow, but it organizes mine just fine. All I have to do is hit F10 and I see all the open windows in an app and can switch to any of them by just clicking on them. How is that hard? If I want to switch programs I can hit Apple+Tab to select a different application. In browsers and in other apps that have tabs I can hit Apple+Shift+Left/Right to move between tabs. Keyboard navigation on OS X at least is amazing. Most of that stuff applies to Windows as well. I have a box running Kubuntu up but I haven't really used it in months.
You have also yet to supply evidence that Aqua "falls apart as soon as you try to do more complex tasks" Like what? I prepare reports on OS X, use Quicken, sync my Treo to iPhoto and TheMissingSync, surf the web, play games. I don't personally program but lots of people program on Macs. Seriously what freaking modern OS these days falls apart when you try to do something complex, and this includes Windows?
Because it requires no effort on the part of the user. Pay-per-use requires signing up for something or logging into Paypal or whatever. Its just hassle most people don't want to deal with.
Of course double clicking setup.exe is the right way to do things. You are talking youself out of common sense. Self installing programs are the easist to install. Anything else is an advocacy for more effort than is necessary. Its a free country so thats your right, but it is the silly way to do things.
First of all, I am in no position to profit from increased usage of Linux. There I've laid it out. I have no personal vested financial interest in it. So no one needs to bend over for me to profit at "your" expense. I don't own or work for a software company nor do I write it myself. Where the fuck did THAT assumption come from?
No there will not always be people motivated to solve problems for free. Where's the free solution to the crappy WPA solution on Linux Laptops? Where's the free solution to the crappy video game situation on Linux? Huh? Just because a few people will continue to tinker does not mean they'll be successful. You are under some crazy delusion that acceptable progress can continue to be made without corporate support and or involvement. Its a daydream, a fantasy. Do you get it? Organized corporate development is greater than and not equal to distributed amatuerish open source development. Paid people work, volunteers piss away time.
Without a large userbase, corporations won't be involved. Without corporate involvement then Linux development is confined to tiny sporadic contributions by amatuers. That means the OS for all intents and purposes is dead. Most of the development going on today in Linux is from corporate involvement from Red Had, IBM, Suse, Mandriva, Novell, Linspire, Conexion (Ubuntu)...etc. Subtract all of their contributions and sure you could replace them with community volunteer efforts......in a few decades. By then we'll have AI and won't give a shit about Linux.
So, dumbfuck, let me brake it down for you how that hurts YOU. With fewer users and less corporate involvement Linux starts to suck badly and quickly. No more ATI drivers, no more NVIDIA drivers, no more wifi drivers. No more video game ports or support for Windows games under Wine and VMWare. You'll have a bare bones shitty OS that will barely be able to surf the web. No flash plugins, crappy to non-existent Quicktime/WMA support. Oh but you'll be "keeping it real" of course so none of that will matter. THIS is the impending future ESR is trying to warn us all against. Right now while interest in Linux is still adequate things are still progressing nicely, but people's patience on Linux is wearing thin. Once its gone, Linux is a dead man walking. Development will drop off and eventually it will come to resemble those pathetic BeOS clones that are still being developed. Did ya hear that? Yes, people are still working on BeOS clones. About 5 people per project. They still suck and have sucked for years but I guess that doesn't matter since in the year 2540 when they finally finish you'll be proven right that corporate involvement isn't necessary or beneficial.
The simplest explanation I can think of is that if Linux were more widespread then there would be greater application and driver support for it. So the more people who use Linux, the better the experience of using it becomes. Its like a chicken and egg type thing.
The very freedom in Free Software is what I conclude that most people find is worthless. Whenever I try to explain the political/idealistic reasons why they should chose Free Software over proprietary software their eyes glaze over. Some, including myself, ponder the mental stability of those who would compare a software movement to a civil rights movement where as in one case you're just talking about software and in another you are talking about the equality of treatment for all human lives.
So unless the economics of free software can overwhelmingly beat that of proprietary software then I don't see it winning. Its not enough for MS Windows to cost $250 per license over free for Linux. Linux has to be easier/cheaper to use, admin, insure....etc. It also needs to be suavely marketed. I don't see that happening for Linux/Free Software anytime soon. Apple seems to be the only company that knows how to make software "sexy" and appealing to the masses. Microsoft succeeds via brute force. What does that leave Linux aside from a generally unappealing and irrelevant idealogy of "freedom"?
You say ruthless monopolist like anyone cares. Like it rises to the level that AT&T or US Steel were monopolists. Those were REAL robber barrons.
Why change strategy? ESR already laid it out. There's a time limit for how long people will wait for Linux to become a "good enough alternative" to Windows. Its closing, closing fast. Without solving this multimedia issue the chance for Linux will be lost. Linux will continue to exist of course, its just its chance of ever over-taking Windows will be forever lost.
Its like the BeOS. Did you know there's still people working on free BeOS clones? Thats great and all but their user/developer base has shrunk to very very tiny levels. Their chance was their heyday during the.com days when they were close to getting OEM install deals. That OS for all intents and purposes is dead. The fact that a few people continue to tinker on it does not make it "alive". The lack of interest in the OS has caused development to lag and its pretty much unusuable as a modern OS anymore. The same fate awaits Linux if action on the multimedia front, yes idealistically compromising action is not taken quickly.
I personally have very little confidence in the ability of extrmely introspective, idealistic and sometimes aspergers/autistic open source developers to see/understand this. I fully expect them to say "Well we don't need them anyway! I'm not gonna compromise my values for Free Software for ANYTHING!" and then as a consequence have Linux fade into irrelevance. Its a sad sad turn of events but with this kind of people as your developer core was any other outcome ever possible in the first place?
You may not care if anyone develops for Linux but I do. If no one develops for the platform then the platform dies. In essense we will have "rebel'd without a cause'd" ourselves out of an operating system. Too cool too survive. Gotta remain true to the cause! Never sell out man!
So says the lone man to the company making billions of dollars every month.
Its not a matter of time. Its not certain at all. In fact its highly unlikely. People are deeply suspicious of "free" things thinking rightly so that in most cases you get what you pay for. If it isn't worth anything, then why use it is the mentality? Unless Microsoft software is prohibitively expensive (which in most cases it is not) it will continue to dominate.
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It isn't capitalized because it is an amateurish way to run a business. You don't roll your own Linux to run your company's infrastructure on unless you own the company yourself. Do you think limo companies build their own limos? Or computer retailers build their own computers?
I know those two items have intrinsic costs that free software doesn't but still the one common cost they ALL have is time and a lack of someone else to call and blame if something goes wrong.
Did it ever occur to you that the overwhelming majority of computer users has absolutely no desire to progress onto more complex tasks? They only want to surf the web, send emails, play video games and use office software. For those who want more they're pros and they're extremely rare among the general computing population.
And how can you possibly have trouble managing more than a few windows or apps on OS X with Expose? Are you the one lacking in intelligence here or something? Its brain dead simple.
Proposing that the command line is easier to use than a GUI is the definition of a geek who just utterly does not understand what regular people prefer to use on a computer. You say that everyone coped when there was no GUI available. That would be wrong. Computer usage did not take off until GUI's made them easier to use. Until that point only geeks and folks who HAD to use them used them. After the GUI computers were bought by the rest of the public who merely "wanted" a computer.
To learn about it. Sometimes you gotta kill something to learn about it. Its all for the greater good in the end. If they are endangered the information learned from their bodies will help us save them when the time comes.
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You are wrong. Humanity is larger than entire solar systems which we will one day colonize as well.
Look, the environment has been damaged yes but not irreperably so. We can survive and adapt and later on fix the things we've done. Our damage to the environment is not some pathetic goth emo justification for letting our civilization die out.
Quit being a traitor to your DNA's intrinsic instincts for self-preservation and knock off the self hate already!
You are 1 for 2. Yes I am a Sociopath, but I like to get my freak on so I usually vote Democrat.
Thanks for being a stereotyping jerk though!
Us Sociopaths need to form a lobbying organization to advance our rights. How about the National Sociopath Association? We can call it the NSA! Wait that one's taken...
You are still bitter about that aren't you?
I suppose what the lie was about doesn't matter in the least does it?
Which is it?
Before the Gore/Bush election there was widespread sentiment that the two parties were too similar to care about who won. A lot of people simply did not vote because they couldn't see a real difference between the Republican and Democratic parties.
That was generally seen as a bad attitude for the electorate to have. SO, the Republicans kicked it up a notch and broadcast to the world stark reminders that they are super-religous, over-judgemental, pricks.
So now that the two sides have re-declared their base positions you think thats a BAD thing? Which one do you want? Are we partisan or non-partisan? I don't think there's a middle ground. I don't want to be sorta-partisan. Thats just half assing it. Who wants to phone in hate? COME ON, PUT YOUR BACK INTO IT!
How would you propose a company should be run? Can you provide any current examples of any modern companies run this way or close to it?
What you say philosophically is true but in reality no one is going to start a revolution over DRM'd media. I'm not about to put my life on the line for an episode of Charles in Charge or a Madonna album.
Who besides you gives a flying fuck about the East Timorese?
On both OS X and Linux you can always access the terminal. So for those who abhor the GUI the terminal is always there. In such a case why is it such a bad thing if the GUI is constantly improved?
As for task switching, in addition to Expose Leopard (the next version of OS X) will have Spaces which is just their late entry into the virtual desktops arena. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/spaces.html
Perhaps Expose doesn't organize YOUR workflow, but it organizes mine just fine. All I have to do is hit F10 and I see all the open windows in an app and can switch to any of them by just clicking on them. How is that hard? If I want to switch programs I can hit Apple+Tab to select a different application. In browsers and in other apps that have tabs I can hit Apple+Shift+Left/Right to move between tabs. Keyboard navigation on OS X at least is amazing. Most of that stuff applies to Windows as well. I have a box running Kubuntu up but I haven't really used it in months.
You have also yet to supply evidence that Aqua "falls apart as soon as you try to do more complex tasks" Like what? I prepare reports on OS X, use Quicken, sync my Treo to iPhoto and TheMissingSync, surf the web, play games. I don't personally program but lots of people program on Macs. Seriously what freaking modern OS these days falls apart when you try to do something complex, and this includes Windows?
Because it requires no effort on the part of the user. Pay-per-use requires signing up for something or logging into Paypal or whatever. Its just hassle most people don't want to deal with.
Of course double clicking setup.exe is the right way to do things. You are talking youself out of common sense. Self installing programs are the easist to install. Anything else is an advocacy for more effort than is necessary. Its a free country so thats your right, but it is the silly way to do things.
First of all, I am in no position to profit from increased usage of Linux. There I've laid it out. I have no personal vested financial interest in it. So no one needs to bend over for me to profit at "your" expense. I don't own or work for a software company nor do I write it myself. Where the fuck did THAT assumption come from?
No there will not always be people motivated to solve problems for free. Where's the free solution to the crappy WPA solution on Linux Laptops? Where's the free solution to the crappy video game situation on Linux? Huh? Just because a few people will continue to tinker does not mean they'll be successful. You are under some crazy delusion that acceptable progress can continue to be made without corporate support and or involvement. Its a daydream, a fantasy. Do you get it? Organized corporate development is greater than and not equal to distributed amatuerish open source development. Paid people work, volunteers piss away time.
Without a large userbase, corporations won't be involved. Without corporate involvement then Linux development is confined to tiny sporadic contributions by amatuers. That means the OS for all intents and purposes is dead. Most of the development going on today in Linux is from corporate involvement from Red Had, IBM, Suse, Mandriva, Novell, Linspire, Conexion (Ubuntu)...etc. Subtract all of their contributions and sure you could replace them with community volunteer efforts......in a few decades. By then we'll have AI and won't give a shit about Linux.
So, dumbfuck, let me brake it down for you how that hurts YOU. With fewer users and less corporate involvement Linux starts to suck badly and quickly. No more ATI drivers, no more NVIDIA drivers, no more wifi drivers. No more video game ports or support for Windows games under Wine and VMWare. You'll have a bare bones shitty OS that will barely be able to surf the web. No flash plugins, crappy to non-existent Quicktime/WMA support. Oh but you'll be "keeping it real" of course so none of that will matter. THIS is the impending future ESR is trying to warn us all against. Right now while interest in Linux is still adequate things are still progressing nicely, but people's patience on Linux is wearing thin. Once its gone, Linux is a dead man walking. Development will drop off and eventually it will come to resemble those pathetic BeOS clones that are still being developed. Did ya hear that? Yes, people are still working on BeOS clones. About 5 people per project. They still suck and have sucked for years but I guess that doesn't matter since in the year 2540 when they finally finish you'll be proven right that corporate involvement isn't necessary or beneficial.
In the course of your life....has anyone ever told you to fucking grow up?
The simplest explanation I can think of is that if Linux were more widespread then there would be greater application and driver support for it. So the more people who use Linux, the better the experience of using it becomes. Its like a chicken and egg type thing.
The very freedom in Free Software is what I conclude that most people find is worthless. Whenever I try to explain the political/idealistic reasons why they should chose Free Software over proprietary software their eyes glaze over. Some, including myself, ponder the mental stability of those who would compare a software movement to a civil rights movement where as in one case you're just talking about software and in another you are talking about the equality of treatment for all human lives.
So unless the economics of free software can overwhelmingly beat that of proprietary software then I don't see it winning. Its not enough for MS Windows to cost $250 per license over free for Linux. Linux has to be easier/cheaper to use, admin, insure....etc. It also needs to be suavely marketed. I don't see that happening for Linux/Free Software anytime soon. Apple seems to be the only company that knows how to make software "sexy" and appealing to the masses. Microsoft succeeds via brute force. What does that leave Linux aside from a generally unappealing and irrelevant idealogy of "freedom"?
How about you not use niche hardware?
lol and its also why it always fails even when going up against the most incompetent of centralized organizations/nations/etc.
You say ruthless monopolist like anyone cares. Like it rises to the level that AT&T or US Steel were monopolists. Those were REAL robber barrons.
.com days when they were close to getting OEM install deals. That OS for all intents and purposes is dead. The fact that a few people continue to tinker on it does not make it "alive". The lack of interest in the OS has caused development to lag and its pretty much unusuable as a modern OS anymore. The same fate awaits Linux if action on the multimedia front, yes idealistically compromising action is not taken quickly.
Why change strategy? ESR already laid it out. There's a time limit for how long people will wait for Linux to become a "good enough alternative" to Windows. Its closing, closing fast. Without solving this multimedia issue the chance for Linux will be lost. Linux will continue to exist of course, its just its chance of ever over-taking Windows will be forever lost.
Its like the BeOS. Did you know there's still people working on free BeOS clones? Thats great and all but their user/developer base has shrunk to very very tiny levels. Their chance was their heyday during the
I personally have very little confidence in the ability of extrmely introspective, idealistic and sometimes aspergers/autistic open source developers to see/understand this. I fully expect them to say "Well we don't need them anyway! I'm not gonna compromise my values for Free Software for ANYTHING!" and then as a consequence have Linux fade into irrelevance. Its a sad sad turn of events but with this kind of people as your developer core was any other outcome ever possible in the first place?
Truth and idiocy both hurt.
You may not care if anyone develops for Linux but I do. If no one develops for the platform then the platform dies. In essense we will have "rebel'd without a cause'd" ourselves out of an operating system. Too cool too survive. Gotta remain true to the cause! Never sell out man!
How fucking pathetic.
So says the lone man to the company making billions of dollars every month.
Its not a matter of time. Its not certain at all. In fact its highly unlikely. People are deeply suspicious of "free" things thinking rightly so that in most cases you get what you pay for. If it isn't worth anything, then why use it is the mentality? Unless Microsoft software is prohibitively expensive (which in most cases it is not) it will continue to dominate.
It isn't capitalized because it is an amateurish way to run a business. You don't roll your own Linux to run your company's infrastructure on unless you own the company yourself. Do you think limo companies build their own limos? Or computer retailers build their own computers?
I know those two items have intrinsic costs that free software doesn't but still the one common cost they ALL have is time and a lack of someone else to call and blame if something goes wrong.
Did it ever occur to you that the overwhelming majority of computer users has absolutely no desire to progress onto more complex tasks? They only want to surf the web, send emails, play video games and use office software. For those who want more they're pros and they're extremely rare among the general computing population.
And how can you possibly have trouble managing more than a few windows or apps on OS X with Expose? Are you the one lacking in intelligence here or something? Its brain dead simple.
Proposing that the command line is easier to use than a GUI is the definition of a geek who just utterly does not understand what regular people prefer to use on a computer. You say that everyone coped when there was no GUI available. That would be wrong. Computer usage did not take off until GUI's made them easier to use. Until that point only geeks and folks who HAD to use them used them. After the GUI computers were bought by the rest of the public who merely "wanted" a computer.
To learn about it. Sometimes you gotta kill something to learn about it. Its all for the greater good in the end. If they are endangered the information learned from their bodies will help us save them when the time comes.
One individual is not the entire species.
People die in all the systems we have devised to date. Until we can think of something better, capitalism kills the least.
Socialism is to open source as capitalism is to propietary software development.