Capitalism is the only thing that has lifted the standard of living for billions of people on this planet. Not generosity, not socialism, not "living wages" but pure bloodthirsty competition. This competition has made everyday products cheaper for all allowing more and more people to enjoy a decent life.
I wouldn't expect a lover of Marx to understand that though.
A lack of concern for prostitutes is not identical to a lack of concerns for women in general. Prostitutes put themselves in their positions, no one makes someone walk the streets at night. There's nothing unhealthy about heaping scorn on a whore. Even if you'd use them yourself.
My example doesn't contradict my point. Most street walkers simply don't get a fair value for their sex. $20 a blow job? $50 for intercourse? Admist the risk for lifelong disease? The prostitutes are getting screwed on a major scale just as BSD license developers are. The BSD developers work their butts off and still have to beg at the end of the day for funds to continue their work. Its a pretty pathetic place to be...not unlike the position in society afforded to prostitutes.
Isn't it pretty amazing that when you purposefully select a license (the BSD license) that allows both individuals and corporations to use your code without contributing so much as a bad thought in return you get angry when people aren't rushing out to fund your project. The begging was just flat out shameless.
"Jeremy Andrews: I use OpenSSH every single day. I use it at home, and have used it at every computer job I've ever worked. I imagine this is true for a lot of people. What was the reaction to your recent request for donations from people and companies that benefit from OpenSSH?
Theo de Raadt: There were many reactions. Some people thought that the tie between OpenBSD and OpenSSH is the problem, and thus they would not donate. Those selfish people apparently don't realize that OpenSSH-p is maintained by OpenBSD people, who don't need to do so, of course. Roughly stated, painting with some broad strokes, the Linux vendors flat out refused to help. They have not even really replied to requests. The commercial Unix vendors have tried to stay away from funding us as well, hiding in their castles, especially when users of our software sent them requests for action. Hundreds of people donated! Smoothwall, Mozilla, and GoDaddy made some large contributions, as large users of OpenSSH. A few other large players (users, not Unix/Linux vendors) have something happening inside their accounting departments.
I don't understand why the Unix/Linux vendors (and Cisco) who ship our product are avoiding us. Maybe they are afraid to give to the first project, because then other projects will come asking too.
I think that contributions should have come first from the vendors, secondly from the corporate users, and thirdly from individual users. But the response has been almost entirely the opposite, with almost a 15 to 1 dollar ratio in favor of the little people. Thanks a lot, little people!"
No one owes any BSD licensed project anything, no matter how useful the project is. It was his choice to choose a license that basically says "Come on, steal what I have and give me nothing in return people!"
For a lot of folks the thinking is like this. A little self respect goes a LONG way, and if you don't respect yourself and your skills enough to charge something for your software or at the very least require that no one can take advantage of your code without giving something back (via the GPL) then you deserve to be used and abused like a cheap hooker. In this case with Theo De Radt we have the hooker following her John home to his suburban house, knocking loudly on the door and demanding additional money in front of his alarmed wife and children.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. You are suggesting we do nothing for this evil because there are greater evils out there. How about we take care of them ALL?
You want some perspective? Here's some, quit crap settling.
I know its not right but bicyclists are just annoying. I can't help but wanting to mow them down. Its like ride your bike on a car path. Roads aren't really meant for bikes even though legally they can be on them. They slow down traffic and you have to be so careful around them. They're like Amish carriages in that regard.
I have news for you. Microsoft has been evil before Google was founded. They have essentially two giant products, Windows and Office and they leverage their marketshare with those two products to squash innovation throughout the industry. So yeah, they're evil and there's nothing wrong with saying that. Its not adolescent to state that.
At the same time if you just don't care about such things, and many people don't then there's no real reason why you shouldn't be able to like the company. Lots of folks like Darth Vader for example even though he's a murder for example.
1. You only need an operating system to run apps. 2. If Google provides apps for everything you need, then it doesn't matter what OS you have as long as you have an operating system. So for example if Google provided a Google Office and Google Calender and say Google AV....etc and then Google has just cut Microsoft's revenue in half by taking out Microsoft Office. People would still need an OS to get online of course but any OS would do for that so people could stick with XP forever or get Macs, Linux...etc.
MMORPGs have not begun with WoW. You must have missed the entire phenomenon until now. On Everquest and other MMORPGs people do in fact meet. Entire families have been brought together and ripped apart because of people leaving their spouses or finding their spouses because of who they have met on these games. People have lost jobs because they play them too much. They are very clearly way more than just a game to a lot of folks. Sure to some who just plug in for a few (less than 10) hours a week they are just a game. To everyone else they've become a lifestyle.
I am a bit confused. Are you saying the total number of elected officials should be capped at 60k or that governments shouldn't govern populations larger than 60k?
As to your point of governments working together but not becoming cover-all laws like the US has. Well there are some points there you need to consider. The first is when the Constitution was written the nation was tiny and no one envisioned it ballooning to 290 million people. Also our nation is more efficient this way. With one federal government and only 50 state governments things get done much faster than they would then if there were say a few thousand micro-governments. People don't want to deal with that level of beauracracy and red tape....something I assumed an anti-statist would instinctively recognize. It would be crazy for a company to have to deal with a thousand different laws just to work across the nation. Without a well run economy, micro governments wouldn't last and power would again centralize. About Marx, I don't understand how our republic has been weakened by democracy. The most successful states in the world today are democracies, republic or parlimentary or whatever. Communism whereever its been attempted has failed horribly and is being abandonded. I just don't get where you were going on that last point.
There is the possibility for abuse of power in any form of government, democracy included. Its just that its greatly limited in a democracy, via term limits and political competition. When there is no government at all, its basically a might makes right proposition in which case a government quickly reforms only this time around a dictator who is in power for as long as he can hold onto it...which in some cases can be quite long.
It is assumed that everyone is heterosexual by default. Its what non-gay acting people or straight acting people radiate, which means most of the population. The very reason why you don't notice it is because it is so prevalaent. So yes, every non-explicitly gay guild out there IS proclaiming their heterosexualness and there's nothing wrong with that. The gay guild is just trying to do the same thing, the only problem here is that people can notice them because and only because they ARE different. And because they can now spot them out in the crowd that is the WoW userbase, they (some people not all, just the homophobes and or the politically fatigued) don't want to have to deal with them.
Also this isn't just a game. Its a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. So you have a lot of people, with all their inherent issues and personal foibles, and you have role playing. Thats two ins for any issue right there. The only way to avoid them is to not play a game involving other humans.
1. Yes I do believe those groups you mention should be able to express themselves fully. I completely believe in the First Amendment and while I may not agree with what you have to say I will defend to the death your right to say it.
2. The way some people talk, merely stating one is gay is somehow "talking about their sex life". I could understand if you were talking about someone going around the office saying they just put their cock into someone else but if they are just relaying a state of being, that they are in fact gay, then no that is not discussing their sex life. Thats stating their sexuality. And for the record everyone is assumed to be straight until otherwise informed so everyone is already radiating their sexuality. To say that gay people can't correct people in their personal sphere's of contact is ludicris. Then again I could have misread you. You are not saying that someone merely telling you that they are gay and only that is talking about their sex life are you?
In order to be as you say you are, pro-freedom, you have to understand what freedom really is. You basically advocate personal anarchy with your views. And as I have explained to many anarchists and libertarians that when people have to be afraid in their everyday lives about certain sentiments negatively affecting them just because of the way they live their lives and when there is no governing authority to protect them...then they aren't truly free. Being free isn't about having the liberty to make someone's life a living hell by discriminating against them for their gender or sexuality.
Without authority and government and inscribed rights and rules and regulations limiting what others do, no one is truly free. Absolute freedom as you advocate for is nothing short of a world of living terror.
And lastly, one one can regulate your speech inside your own home so that was a strawman and you know it. Shame on you.
The only way to prevent those things from entering an escapist world is to have an escapist world consisting of only you yourself. The moment there's more than one person it becomes "people" and people bring their politics with them where-ever they go. You yourself are a perfect example. You brought your personal politics of avoiding supporting equal rights because you just wanna play a game.
I wonder how many people said that same thing when black people or women were fighting for their rights. It doesn't matter what the platform, until those rights are attained, no one should be "safe" from the message of those fighting for equality.
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Capitalism is the only thing that has lifted the standard of living for billions of people on this planet. Not generosity, not socialism, not "living wages" but pure bloodthirsty competition. This competition has made everyday products cheaper for all allowing more and more people to enjoy a decent life.
I wouldn't expect a lover of Marx to understand that though.
A lack of concern for prostitutes is not identical to a lack of concerns for women in general. Prostitutes put themselves in their positions, no one makes someone walk the streets at night. There's nothing unhealthy about heaping scorn on a whore. Even if you'd use them yourself.
My example doesn't contradict my point. Most street walkers simply don't get a fair value for their sex. $20 a blow job? $50 for intercourse? Admist the risk for lifelong disease? The prostitutes are getting screwed on a major scale just as BSD license developers are. The BSD developers work their butts off and still have to beg at the end of the day for funds to continue their work. Its a pretty pathetic place to be...not unlike the position in society afforded to prostitutes.
Prostitutes do not equal women. Although they are women, not all women are prostitutes. Nice try.
Isn't it pretty amazing that when you purposefully select a license (the BSD license) that allows both individuals and corporations to use your code without contributing so much as a bad thought in return you get angry when people aren't rushing out to fund your project. The begging was just flat out shameless.
"Jeremy Andrews: I use OpenSSH every single day. I use it at home, and have used it at every computer job I've ever worked. I imagine this is true for a lot of people. What was the reaction to your recent request for donations from people and companies that benefit from OpenSSH?
Theo de Raadt: There were many reactions.
Some people thought that the tie between OpenBSD and OpenSSH is the problem, and thus they would not donate. Those selfish people apparently don't realize that OpenSSH-p is maintained by OpenBSD people, who don't need to do so, of course.
Roughly stated, painting with some broad strokes, the Linux vendors flat out refused to help. They have not even really replied to requests. The commercial Unix vendors have tried to stay away from funding us as well, hiding in their castles, especially when users of our software sent them requests for action.
Hundreds of people donated!
Smoothwall, Mozilla, and GoDaddy made some large contributions, as large users of OpenSSH. A few other large players (users, not Unix/Linux vendors) have something happening inside their accounting departments.
I don't understand why the Unix/Linux vendors (and Cisco) who ship our product are avoiding us. Maybe they are afraid to give to the first project, because then other projects will come asking too.
I think that contributions should have come first from the vendors, secondly from the corporate users, and thirdly from individual users. But the response has been almost entirely the opposite, with almost a 15 to 1 dollar ratio in favor of the little people. Thanks a lot, little people!"
No one owes any BSD licensed project anything, no matter how useful the project is. It was his choice to choose a license that basically says "Come on, steal what I have and give me nothing in return people!"
For a lot of folks the thinking is like this. A little self respect goes a LONG way, and if you don't respect yourself and your skills enough to charge something for your software or at the very least require that no one can take advantage of your code without giving something back (via the GPL) then you deserve to be used and abused like a cheap hooker. In this case with Theo De Radt we have the hooker following her John home to his suburban house, knocking loudly on the door and demanding additional money in front of his alarmed wife and children.
Incredible.
I'm thinking the parent is a troll. Any point on a sphere is sitting directly above the center.
It might have something to do with Microsoft producing things of value whereas RMS produces mainly hot air.
I think most mature folks recognize "Trusted Computing" and "Digital Rights Management" as marketing.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. You are suggesting we do nothing for this evil because there are greater evils out there. How about we take care of them ALL?
You want some perspective? Here's some, quit crap settling.
Darth Vader turning good in the end cannot possibly make up for the billions of lives he took while he was alive. Come on man, get some perspective.
I know its not right but bicyclists are just annoying. I can't help but wanting to mow them down. Its like ride your bike on a car path. Roads aren't really meant for bikes even though legally they can be on them. They slow down traffic and you have to be so careful around them. They're like Amish carriages in that regard.
So when Hitler walked the earth, less successful murderers stopped being evil?
Even the littler evils are still evil.
You're fired.
I have news for you. Microsoft has been evil before Google was founded. They have essentially two giant products, Windows and Office and they leverage their marketshare with those two products to squash innovation throughout the industry. So yeah, they're evil and there's nothing wrong with saying that. Its not adolescent to state that.
At the same time if you just don't care about such things, and many people don't then there's no real reason why you shouldn't be able to like the company. Lots of folks like Darth Vader for example even though he's a murder for example.
It would be pretty simple.
1. You only need an operating system to run apps.
2. If Google provides apps for everything you need, then it doesn't matter what OS you have as long as you have an operating system. So for example if Google provided a Google Office and Google Calender and say Google AV....etc and then Google has just cut Microsoft's revenue in half by taking out Microsoft Office. People would still need an OS to get online of course but any OS would do for that so people could stick with XP forever or get Macs, Linux...etc.
And thats how it would be done.
No they promised to deliver it in 2004 back when it was still being called Longhorn. So its still 2 years late.
Apple's Developer tools are free and use GCC.
Yeah because SOOOO many people are clamoring for Ogg support. You know, all those folks who don't even know what Ogg is...
MMORPGs have not begun with WoW. You must have missed the entire phenomenon until now. On Everquest and other MMORPGs people do in fact meet. Entire families have been brought together and ripped apart because of people leaving their spouses or finding their spouses because of who they have met on these games. People have lost jobs because they play them too much. They are very clearly way more than just a game to a lot of folks. Sure to some who just plug in for a few (less than 10) hours a week they are just a game. To everyone else they've become a lifestyle.
I am a bit confused. Are you saying the total number of elected officials should be capped at 60k or that governments shouldn't govern populations larger than 60k?
As to your point of governments working together but not becoming cover-all laws like the US has. Well there are some points there you need to consider. The first is when the Constitution was written the nation was tiny and no one envisioned it ballooning to 290 million people. Also our nation is more efficient this way. With one federal government and only 50 state governments things get done much faster than they would then if there were say a few thousand micro-governments. People don't want to deal with that level of beauracracy and red tape....something I assumed an anti-statist would instinctively recognize. It would be crazy for a company to have to deal with a thousand different laws just to work across the nation. Without a well run economy, micro governments wouldn't last and power would again centralize. About Marx, I don't understand how our republic has been weakened by democracy. The most successful states in the world today are democracies, republic or parlimentary or whatever. Communism whereever its been attempted has failed horribly and is being abandonded. I just don't get where you were going on that last point.
There is the possibility for abuse of power in any form of government, democracy included. Its just that its greatly limited in a democracy, via term limits and political competition. When there is no government at all, its basically a might makes right proposition in which case a government quickly reforms only this time around a dictator who is in power for as long as he can hold onto it...which in some cases can be quite long.
It is assumed that everyone is heterosexual by default. Its what non-gay acting people or straight acting people radiate, which means most of the population. The very reason why you don't notice it is because it is so prevalaent. So yes, every non-explicitly gay guild out there IS proclaiming their heterosexualness and there's nothing wrong with that. The gay guild is just trying to do the same thing, the only problem here is that people can notice them because and only because they ARE different. And because they can now spot them out in the crowd that is the WoW userbase, they (some people not all, just the homophobes and or the politically fatigued) don't want to have to deal with them.
Also this isn't just a game. Its a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. So you have a lot of people, with all their inherent issues and personal foibles, and you have role playing. Thats two ins for any issue right there. The only way to avoid them is to not play a game involving other humans.
1. Yes I do believe those groups you mention should be able to express themselves fully. I completely believe in the First Amendment and while I may not agree with what you have to say I will defend to the death your right to say it.
2. The way some people talk, merely stating one is gay is somehow "talking about their sex life". I could understand if you were talking about someone going around the office saying they just put their cock into someone else but if they are just relaying a state of being, that they are in fact gay, then no that is not discussing their sex life. Thats stating their sexuality. And for the record everyone is assumed to be straight until otherwise informed so everyone is already radiating their sexuality. To say that gay people can't correct people in their personal sphere's of contact is ludicris. Then again I could have misread you. You are not saying that someone merely telling you that they are gay and only that is talking about their sex life are you?
In order to be as you say you are, pro-freedom, you have to understand what freedom really is. You basically advocate personal anarchy with your views. And as I have explained to many anarchists and libertarians that when people have to be afraid in their everyday lives about certain sentiments negatively affecting them just because of the way they live their lives and when there is no governing authority to protect them...then they aren't truly free. Being free isn't about having the liberty to make someone's life a living hell by discriminating against them for their gender or sexuality.
Without authority and government and inscribed rights and rules and regulations limiting what others do, no one is truly free. Absolute freedom as you advocate for is nothing short of a world of living terror.
And lastly, one one can regulate your speech inside your own home so that was a strawman and you know it. Shame on you.
The only way to prevent those things from entering an escapist world is to have an escapist world consisting of only you yourself. The moment there's more than one person it becomes "people" and people bring their politics with them where-ever they go. You yourself are a perfect example. You brought your personal politics of avoiding supporting equal rights because you just wanna play a game.
Amazing self centeredness.
I wonder how many people said that same thing when black people or women were fighting for their rights. It doesn't matter what the platform, until those rights are attained, no one should be "safe" from the message of those fighting for equality.