How exactly would "Owning what you produce" work in certain situations. Why isn't earning a wage for your labor enough? If I hire someone to say build a house for me, would they then end up owning the house since they built it themselves even though I paid for the labor and materials?
Under such a system how could anyone anywhere start up a business? How would enterprenuership survive? Do you think that everyone is qualified to be a leader?
As for those people in Socialist countries seeing their tax dollars at work... be careful there. Have you visited most socialist nations? Even Canada? Have you seen the lower quality of healthcare? I'd rather get a high quality of care and a huge bill than a lower but standard quality of care for free. Canada routinely has to pay to ship their citizens down to the States for cancer screenings because there aren't enough doctors up there to do it. Why not? Well under nationalized healthcare doctors only get paid so much and that in turn leads many to consider another form of employment than medicine. The same problem is happening in other nationalized healthcare nations such as the UK, France, and Germany.
In France for instance the scientists there got so fed up with their extremely low salaries that they have staged a strike. Government scientists over there, there aren't that many private sector scientists btw, get paid a pittance for what their skills merit on the free market. Sometimes as low as $23,000 a year. Buying new equipment is a quagmire because of all the government red tape. France is suffering a very serious brain drain to other countries, namely the US, which treats people who wish to start businesses much better than their home country does. Here are some links on the issue: http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/815 0970.htm and http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/247-0309200 4-261376.html
The thing about socialism is its built on pyramid schemes. Even the US's socialist programs such as Social Security and Medicare are affected by this. Its all fine and good when you have more workers than recipients but when those numbers even out or worse reverse you have disaster again. Its best to encourage folks to always look out and care for themselves with a system that is as capitalist as possible and humanly decent, such as the US has, then to provide people with the false promises and pipe dreams of a socialist paradise.
So we'd be going back to vigilante squads who do not go thru proper investigations and round up concrete evidence before metting out their brand of "justice"? So mob rule is really an advancement over our current justice system in your mind?
Anarchy doesn't have negative connotations thanks to propaganda but because of what it really is. In anarchy people just aren't safe. There's no police or government to protect the people from being robbed and murdered. If you think that people can effectively protect themselves by forming free contracts and free association that it just shows how little you know about human nature.
Hint: The bad guys won't give a rats ass about your "contracts".
Uh no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pay an inflated price for any item. If you don't want to pay that much all you have to do is walk away. All these thoughts about "evil, volent, and needing to be destroyed" are just unnecessary.
You don't happen to have a URL to that movie do you? I looked on imdb.com and I don't think the movies named "Network" that they had were what you are talking about.
I'm just curious how a clearly logical person like a software coder could state "that the Bible is an accurate and uncorrupted historical document".
Surely you must know the Bible wasn't written first in English and wasn't written yesterday. It was written thousands of years ago in another language. Its journey to its current form traversed many many different languages with each translator having their own agendas. This is in addition to the fact that whenever you translate something as large as the Bible you lose things or translate some of them wrongly.
How people could dedicate a way of life to a book that is in no way verifiable and is certainly not in the same state it was originally written boggles my mind.
If you can throw a football really well that implies future financial success, fame, power and a party atmosphere. Thus you are attractive to women. Whats so hard to understand about that?
If your wife came home one day and flat out told you she didn't love you anymore and was leaving what would you do, forcibly stop her from leaving? How long would that work?
What if she told you she was a lesbian and needed to be with a woman now?
What if she told you she had an affair with a man who was better in bed then you'll ever be and can't bare the thought of having to go back to the unsatisfying sex that you give her?
What if she just can't stand the sight of you anymore?
These are the changes I am talking about. Not the small time career-change or midlife crisis crap. Real fundamental changes in a person's personality. There's nothing you can do to prevent this or remedy the situation. The marriage is over whether you like it or not.
Its an absolute fairy tale that all marriages should never end. Somehow some folks have confused the periods in history when women did not have the legal rights or economic capabilities to leave their loveless marriages for the "good old days".
As for parental licensing such a thing only sounds horrible, but once put into practice you'll quickly see why its a very very bad idea. One group would not want licenses given out to say people who are not "patriotic" enough to serve in the military. Another group would not want licenses given to those who used to be incarcerated. It would go on and on hijacked by special interest after special interest until only a very narrow sliver of people were given the "right" of reproduction.
Nevermind the people would never stand for this. There would be bloody revolution in the streets and the first ones to die would be the inventors and administrators of such a program.
As for Saddam yes I can look you in the eye and tell you it was immoral and unlawful. There is a bigger picture here. There are plenty of evil despots on the earth who could use a good ass kicking but there's something called international stability we have to look out for here. If the rest of the world begins to feel genuinely threatened by unchecked American military hegemony we will find ourselves in a much worse position than we began in. Fortunately the hawkish sentiments of the republican party seem to be confined to those unfriendly nations who happen to contain large stores of exploitable natural resources with which to extract and fund the non-open bid industrial contractors such as Bechtel and Halliburton, the latter of which has improrper influence in Washington due to their ex-ceo kinda being the Vice President.
The United States is part of an international community. Iraq was obviously no threat to us. A few more years arguing over the issue in the UN would have been the better route as it would have gotten us a REAL co-alition of the willing instead of the co-operation of the bribed and threatened.
There's absolutely no point in staying in a loveless marriage and remaining miserable just for "the children". People have gone way overboard with this "everything for the children" sentiment. They're resilient creatures and do not need to be sheilded from actual real life events in order to grow up healthily.
What they do need are people who love them and look out for their best interests and the adults around them are hardly at their best if they have to sleep with someone they vehemently hate. I am not a Democrat but you are dead wrong about Democrats not being big on resposibility. I don't see how anyone can say that when the current Republican administrtation adamantly refuses to take responsibility for its actions getting us involved in an immoral and unlawful war to look for something that wasn't there, for failing to allow people to marry whom they wish, for failing to balance the budget I could go on and on.
Some fundies (fundamentalists) or fundie groupies however seem to not be satisfied if people seek to live their lives as they see fit without subscribing to the "consequence" belief systems that they themselves believe in. For example, parents who divorce and get on with their lives are seen as selfish when its actually a very appropriate thing to do to seek happiness for yourself. Just because one has a child doesn't mean your life completely comes to an end and you must drop everything for your child. Such action is spoiling, not helping them. The last lesson I would ever want to empart to my own children would be to stay in a horribly loveless marriage just because there are kids involved. Do you think its healthy for the child to see the constant unhappiness on their parent's faces day in and day out? Yes a marriage is supposed to be a lifelong committment, but its not supposed to be state sanction BDSM of the physical, mental OR physical variety. Blatant abuse? So only abuse others can clearly see right? Fuck that. You can live with less than blatant abuse if you want to but its damn ignorant and arrogant to advocate it "for the children."
If you are married to someone who clearly does_not_love you then they have already failed the marriage. The other person leaving it is just saying to themselves, I can be a good parent without going thru my own personal hell on a daily basis no matter what the 700 Club thinks.
Also people DO change over time. The person you married 25 years ago may be a completely differnt person today. It smacks of ripe ignorance to say "you should have thought about that before". If someone changes their behavior you can't help that. It is unhealthy to the max for yourself and your children to remain in a dysfunctional marriage. There is absolutely no honor or nobility in deciding to live that kind of a life. You are only deluding yourself and harming any kids under your care.
In the future try not to be so obessesd about children that you forget to allow basic common sense to enter your thought processes.
Stop trying to turn one group into the other. Instead associate yourself with those who share the same sentiments on communication and socialization that you do. Otherwise you're just going to be around a bunch of pissed off people who are annoyed by your constant attempts to engage them in your needy grabs for attention.
Again you have made an incredibly ignorant statement. Not all families are two parent families to begin with. There are many one parent families for many reasons, not all of them selfish. If one parent runs off, is killed, or the child is the result of rape what is the single parent supposed to do? Kick themself in the head everyday until the end of time because some Young Republican on the internet considers them a "lousy parent"? No you make do with the best you have in the way you deem appropriate.
Whether its apple or not is irrelevant. Economies of scale come into play here. Since less of them are produced then the cost is higher for non-intel/amd platforms.
PPC? Using "free software" on a MORE EXPENSIVE hardware platform is highly illogical. Lack of drivers is an appropriate punishment for such silly shenanigans.
I'm pretty sure the overwhelming bulk of OSS is taking what has already been created in the proprietary world, emulating or outright copying it and then releasing it to everyone else as "free" software.
Of course SOME actual innovation occurs but its very very minor.
Are you in any way equating the creation of most software which is just nuts and bolts stuff with the lifelong charitable works of Mother Theresa? Enabling corporations to increase their productivity by.0005% is not in any way a noble endeavour.
Thus you should charge as much as the market will allow for such work.
What quantifiable proof do you have that geeks, outcasts and losers are any better than jocks and preppies?
So being good at sports or wearing a certain type of clean cut clothing makes you somehow less worthy than say a goth? I don't get this.
Simply saying x is better than y doesn't work. You have to prove that it is so. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass and trying to justifiy why you are a miserable people hating person.
Another thing, how can you possibly know when and if other people have original thoughts? Are you a mind reader on par with Professor X? What if someone has an original thought yet doesn't articulate it. Does that mean it still didn't happen?
The two are intertwined but I DID think the term "Unsustainable" referred to that new crappy movement where people only buy certain products if they believe they are produced using "sustainable" policies.
It may be an entertaining read but it is far from true. Using science and technology the wasteful and consumerist American lifestyle can be enjoyed by every man woman and child on Earth without wrecking the planet.
The key to saving our world is not reducing consumption but making consumption less costly to the environment.
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How exactly would "Owning what you produce" work in certain situations. Why isn't earning a wage for your labor enough? If I hire someone to say build a house for me, would they then end up owning the house since they built it themselves even though I paid for the labor and materials?
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Under such a system how could anyone anywhere start up a business? How would enterprenuership survive? Do you think that everyone is qualified to be a leader?
As for those people in Socialist countries seeing their tax dollars at work... be careful there. Have you visited most socialist nations? Even Canada? Have you seen the lower quality of healthcare? I'd rather get a high quality of care and a huge bill than a lower but standard quality of care for free. Canada routinely has to pay to ship their citizens down to the States for cancer screenings because there aren't enough doctors up there to do it. Why not? Well under nationalized healthcare doctors only get paid so much and that in turn leads many to consider another form of employment than medicine. The same problem is happening in other nationalized healthcare nations such as the UK, France, and Germany.
In France for instance the scientists there got so fed up with their extremely low salaries that they have staged a strike. Government scientists over there, there aren't that many private sector scientists btw, get paid a pittance for what their skills merit on the free market. Sometimes as low as $23,000 a year. Buying new equipment is a quagmire because of all the government red tape. France is suffering a very serious brain drain to other countries, namely the US, which treats people who wish to start businesses much better than their home country does. Here are some links on the issue:
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/81
and http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/247-030920
The thing about socialism is its built on pyramid schemes. Even the US's socialist programs such as Social Security and Medicare are affected by this. Its all fine and good when you have more workers than recipients but when those numbers even out or worse reverse you have disaster again. Its best to encourage folks to always look out and care for themselves with a system that is as capitalist as possible and humanly decent, such as the US has, then to provide people with the false promises and pipe dreams of a socialist paradise.
So we'd be going back to vigilante squads who do not go thru proper investigations and round up concrete evidence before metting out their brand of "justice"? So mob rule is really an advancement over our current justice system in your mind?
Anarchy doesn't have negative connotations thanks to propaganda but because of what it really is. In anarchy people just aren't safe. There's no police or government to protect the people from being robbed and murdered. If you think that people can effectively protect themselves by forming free contracts and free association that it just shows how little you know about human nature.
Hint: The bad guys won't give a rats ass about your "contracts".
Uh no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pay an inflated price for any item. If you don't want to pay that much all you have to do is walk away. All these thoughts about "evil, volent, and needing to be destroyed" are just unnecessary.
Cool. So you belong to the ever shrinking group of folks who still believe Linux is going to overtake the desktop huh?
With Windows being easier to use than Linux, why on earth would people install Linux on their home desktop computers?
Haven't you gotten it yet? Desktop linux just isn't going anywhere. There apps aren't there, the games aren't there, and the ease of use isn't there.
You don't happen to have a URL to that movie do you? I looked on imdb.com and I don't think the movies named "Network" that they had were what you are talking about.
I'm just curious how a clearly logical person like a software coder could state "that the Bible is an accurate and uncorrupted historical document".
Surely you must know the Bible wasn't written first in English and wasn't written yesterday. It was written thousands of years ago in another language. Its journey to its current form traversed many many different languages with each translator having their own agendas. This is in addition to the fact that whenever you translate something as large as the Bible you lose things or translate some of them wrongly.
How people could dedicate a way of life to a book that is in no way verifiable and is certainly not in the same state it was originally written boggles my mind.
We may have a 50% divorce rate for people today, but what you don't hear is a lot of those folks get married again, and STAY married.
As long as you don't make marriage into some sacred never-undoable thing, people will be able to repair their own mistakes and go on with their lives.
If you can throw a football really well that implies future financial success, fame, power and a party atmosphere. Thus you are attractive to women. Whats so hard to understand about that?
If your wife came home one day and flat out told you she didn't love you anymore and was leaving what would you do, forcibly stop her from leaving? How long would that work?
What if she told you she was a lesbian and needed to be with a woman now?
What if she told you she had an affair with a man who was better in bed then you'll ever be and can't bare the thought of having to go back to the unsatisfying sex that you give her?
What if she just can't stand the sight of you anymore?
These are the changes I am talking about. Not the small time career-change or midlife crisis crap. Real fundamental changes in a person's personality. There's nothing you can do to prevent this or remedy the situation. The marriage is over whether you like it or not.
Its an absolute fairy tale that all marriages should never end. Somehow some folks have confused the periods in history when women did not have the legal rights or economic capabilities to leave their loveless marriages for the "good old days".
As for parental licensing such a thing only sounds horrible, but once put into practice you'll quickly see why its a very very bad idea. One group would not want licenses given out to say people who are not "patriotic" enough to serve in the military. Another group would not want licenses given to those who used to be incarcerated. It would go on and on hijacked by special interest after special interest until only a very narrow sliver of people were given the "right" of reproduction.
Nevermind the people would never stand for this. There would be bloody revolution in the streets and the first ones to die would be the inventors and administrators of such a program.
As for Saddam yes I can look you in the eye and tell you it was immoral and unlawful. There is a bigger picture here. There are plenty of evil despots on the earth who could use a good ass kicking but there's something called international stability we have to look out for here. If the rest of the world begins to feel genuinely threatened by unchecked American military hegemony we will find ourselves in a much worse position than we began in. Fortunately the hawkish sentiments of the republican party seem to be confined to those unfriendly nations who happen to contain large stores of exploitable natural resources with which to extract and fund the non-open bid industrial contractors such as Bechtel and Halliburton, the latter of which has improrper influence in Washington due to their ex-ceo kinda being the Vice President.
The United States is part of an international community. Iraq was obviously no threat to us. A few more years arguing over the issue in the UN would have been the better route as it would have gotten us a REAL co-alition of the willing instead of the co-operation of the bribed and threatened.
There's absolutely no point in staying in a loveless marriage and remaining miserable just for "the children". People have gone way overboard with this "everything for the children" sentiment. They're resilient creatures and do not need to be sheilded from actual real life events in order to grow up healthily.
What they do need are people who love them and look out for their best interests and the adults around them are hardly at their best if they have to sleep with someone they vehemently hate. I am not a Democrat but you are dead wrong about Democrats not being big on resposibility. I don't see how anyone can say that when the current Republican administrtation adamantly refuses to take responsibility for its actions getting us involved in an immoral and unlawful war to look for something that wasn't there, for failing to allow people to marry whom they wish, for failing to balance the budget I could go on and on.
Some fundies (fundamentalists) or fundie groupies however seem to not be satisfied if people seek to live their lives as they see fit without subscribing to the "consequence" belief systems that they themselves believe in. For example, parents who divorce and get on with their lives are seen as selfish when its actually a very appropriate thing to do to seek happiness for yourself. Just because one has a child doesn't mean your life completely comes to an end and you must drop everything for your child. Such action is spoiling, not helping them. The last lesson I would ever want to empart to my own children would be to stay in a horribly loveless marriage just because there are kids involved. Do you think its healthy for the child to see the constant unhappiness on their parent's faces day in and day out? Yes a marriage is supposed to be a lifelong committment, but its not supposed to be state sanction BDSM of the physical, mental OR physical variety. Blatant abuse? So only abuse others can clearly see right? Fuck that. You can live with less than blatant abuse if you want to but its damn ignorant and arrogant to advocate it "for the children."
If you are married to someone who clearly does_not_love you then they have already failed the marriage. The other person leaving it is just saying to themselves, I can be a good parent without going thru my own personal hell on a daily basis no matter what the 700 Club thinks.
Also people DO change over time. The person you married 25 years ago may be a completely differnt person today. It smacks of ripe ignorance to say "you should have thought about that before". If someone changes their behavior you can't help that. It is unhealthy to the max for yourself and your children to remain in a dysfunctional marriage. There is absolutely no honor or nobility in deciding to live that kind of a life. You are only deluding yourself and harming any kids under your care.
In the future try not to be so obessesd about children that you forget to allow basic common sense to enter your thought processes.
Except that it didn't work for Howard Dean....
YOU are the one with a mental illness if you think people wanting to be alone in their free time is somehow "wrong".
There are social people.
There are anti-social people.
Stop trying to turn one group into the other. Instead associate yourself with those who share the same sentiments on communication and socialization that you do. Otherwise you're just going to be around a bunch of pissed off people who are annoyed by your constant attempts to engage them in your needy grabs for attention.
Honestly if by the year 2007 you don't have a computer with 4gigs of ram then you're just lame, regardless if you use Linux or Windows.
Again you have made an incredibly ignorant statement. Not all families are two parent families to begin with. There are many one parent families for many reasons, not all of them selfish. If one parent runs off, is killed, or the child is the result of rape what is the single parent supposed to do? Kick themself in the head everyday until the end of time because some Young Republican on the internet considers them a "lousy parent"? No you make do with the best you have in the way you deem appropriate.
Whether its apple or not is irrelevant. Economies of scale come into play here. Since less of them are produced then the cost is higher for non-intel/amd platforms.
PPC? Using "free software" on a MORE EXPENSIVE hardware platform is highly illogical. Lack of drivers is an appropriate punishment for such silly shenanigans.
I'm pretty sure the overwhelming bulk of OSS is taking what has already been created in the proprietary world, emulating or outright copying it and then releasing it to everyone else as "free" software.
Of course SOME actual innovation occurs but its very very minor.
Are you in any way equating the creation of most software which is just nuts and bolts stuff with the lifelong charitable works of Mother Theresa? Enabling corporations to increase their productivity by .0005% is not in any way a noble endeavour.
Thus you should charge as much as the market will allow for such work.
What quantifiable proof do you have that geeks, outcasts and losers are any better than jocks and preppies?
So being good at sports or wearing a certain type of clean cut clothing makes you somehow less worthy than say a goth? I don't get this.
Simply saying x is better than y doesn't work. You have to prove that it is so. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass and trying to justifiy why you are a miserable people hating person.
Another thing, how can you possibly know when and if other people have original thoughts? Are you a mind reader on par with Professor X? What if someone has an original thought yet doesn't articulate it. Does that mean it still didn't happen?
I'll tell you why.
Because when women have sex its for LOVE or LOVE MAKING and thus appropriate cause such a thing supposedly bolsters relationships.
When men have sex its for LUST or PURIENT interests and destroys our communities and our neighborhoods!
The two are intertwined but I DID think the term "Unsustainable" referred to that new crappy movement where people only buy certain products if they believe they are produced using "sustainable" policies.
It may be an entertaining read but it is far from true. Using science and technology the wasteful and consumerist American lifestyle can be enjoyed by every man woman and child on Earth without wrecking the planet.
The key to saving our world is not reducing consumption but making consumption less costly to the environment.