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The Psychology Behind Headphones

pvt_medic writes "The BBC has an interesting article today about portable music players and personal space. The article is on the research that Dr Michael Bull has done on portable music players. He analyzes them as a "tool whereby users manage space, time and the boundaries around the self." This article goes on to analyze the social and psychological aspects related to listening to music in public with headphones. A good quick read for those who do this."

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  1. anti-social behaviors... by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some women use earphones to deflect unwanted attention, finding it easier to avoid responding because they look already occupied.

    People in general do this. I work at a technical college and see numerous students with headphones on (I don't believe I have seen earbuds recently). I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution. I would guess that would be the equivalent of someone's body languge -- showing crossed arms during a conversation.

    I think that people are shy enough as it is. We do very little REAL social interaction as it is. Do we really want to become even more anti-social creatures by promoting music as some sort of "shield" from the outside world? Remember, the average person spends about 50% of their daily free time at home watching TV.

    Music is something I like to enjoy with others at concerts and at home. Music is something that should be passed on to others. Nothing like finding a new genre of music you have never heard before because a friend had it playing in the car or in his house.

    Just my worthless ramblings,

    1. Re:anti-social behaviors... by elykyllek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately a lot of the music other people listen to sucks. I'm glad they wear their headphones, it doesn't shield them, it sheilds me.

    2. Re:anti-social behaviors... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Funny

      I prefer being ignored by someone with headphones on than by someone putting their index fingers in their ears and yelling "I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALAAAA".

    3. Re:anti-social behaviors... by imAck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the contrary, I have spent many hours in group settings working on software projects at an educational institution. For one, I just write better code when I have some music to provide a rhythm to code to. For another, it's helpful to have a way to be isolated when working on a very difficult problem, but be able to return to the group setting as easily as taking off my headphones. I _do_ agree that as a culture we have become physically isolationists, but people have been using newspapers on subway commutes since the 1800's as a "shield" in much the same way. This is not a brand new social apparatus; Just a new instantiation of it.

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    4. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. Reading some things in the article, I got a very peculiar image.

      They let listeners become witnesses without the risk of getting too involved. The earphones absolve them of some responsibility.

      Is the author implying that we dampen reality through the use of mp3 players?

      Life is dynamic, exciting, uncertain. That's what makes it worth living.

      To me, this article is saying that we should use these mp3 players to exert a sort of control over our everyday experiences, altering them to conform to our desires. But that's not what life is about. Life isn't a solo venture.

    5. Re:anti-social behaviors... by niko9 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remember, the average person spends about 50% of their daily free time at home watching TV.

      I DON'T WATCH TV!

      I, um, spend my time here... and listening to songs thats have gratuitous amounts of cowbell.

    6. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      one of my own reasons for listening to music while in school is that it helps relax me and open my mind to whatever i'm studying at the time. nothing like bach, vivaldi, or some john williams to help you absorb vector calculus.

      unless of course the students you're talking about are wearing headphones while in class, which is an entirely different matter. music in your own free time is perfectly healthy diversion.

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    7. Re:anti-social behaviors... by WorkEmail · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had a friend who had a really old car and the radio and tape player didn't work in it, so he wore headphones while driving....really safe right? lol.

    8. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ichimunki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know about that. Up until last week, when the bus drivers here went on strike, I found I listened to more of "other people's" music as a result of walkman radios being played too loudly on the bus than all other sources of "external" music combined.

      For myself I realized that wearing headphones was not a good idea since the tendency was to drown out external stimuli.

      Anyway... was it just me or did this "article" read more like an ad for iPod than anything else?

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    9. Re:anti-social behaviors... by DougMackensie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And since when is anti-social behavior immediately seen as a negative thing. Is it a bad thing that Henry David Thoreau (walden) worked best when he removed himself from society? Is it a bad thing when Andrew Wiles (fermat solver) would hole himself up in his attic by himself to concentrate on his proof? Is it a bad thing when a CS student wants to put his headphones in the computer lab to block out all the other converstations (sometimes in different languages) around him so that he can concentrate?

      Why can't normally social people find auditory solitude in their headphones without people accusing them of being "shy, sheilding, or anti-social"? Realize that people work differently from yourself, and having the headphones on can make them work better?

    10. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is it a bad thing that Henry David Thoreau (walden) worked best when he removed himself from society?

      No, its certainly not a bad thing to take time off from the bustle of the world and engage in private work.

      However, how could Thoreau have been a humanist if he never took the time to interact and engage with humanity?

      Life experience is something that happens to you - you can't go looking for it.

      Social behavior is a defining characteristic of our species. It's true that different people have different appetites for social interaction, but you can never be truly human if you decide to block out everything.

    11. Re:anti-social behaviors... by angle_slam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      According to some ADHD experts, the rhythm of the music allows ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) to concentrate better, instead of being distracted by random conversations, etc. I know that I can't work without music on.

    12. Re:anti-social behaviors... by TwistedGreen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think that people are shy enough as it is. We do very little REAL social interaction as it is.

      Well thanks for you opinion regarding the behaviour of the people around you. But please note that it is none of your business to be telling people that they don't act like you envision. Are you going to force them into uncomfortable situations in order to get them to conform to some social aesthetic? Are you going to go on saying that people should act more like you because they couldn't possibly be happy otherwise?

      Worthless ramblings indeed.

    13. Re:anti-social behaviors... by garcia · · Score: 1

      And since when is anti-social behavior immediately seen as a negative thing.

      The examples you gave are good ones to support your side but they aren't valid for what I was saying. I was talking about the general public walking down the street blocking out the rest of the world because they wanted to be in their "cocoon". They don't want social interactions (my example of a student in the hallway at school). They just want to be seperated from everyone else.

      It is one thing to want to be alone and have quiet when you are working, researching, or whatever. It is another thing to be spending your FREE TIME being anti-social.

    14. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Genady · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to put too fine a point on it, but I wear headphones in cube-land because all of the other conversations going on around me are distracting, especially the ones in foreign languages.

      Background noise pulls at attention, at least it does for me. Now, I have been known to listen to 'pink' noise instead of music just to drown out the conversations. This actually works better than Music often times, but is just hell on my mild tinitus.

      I think the anti-social aspects are a bit over played as well. Ask the people you see wearing headphones in the office, or in public if they are extaverts or intraverts. I would bet a small sum of money that the majority of people that are 'enhansing their personal space' are introverts. I, as an introvert, don't see anything wrong with this. We are not flawed because we are anti-social, we are just different.

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    15. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 1

      Apologies, I re-read the parent post and realized that what he was referring to was not my classification of anti-social behavior.

      Someone anti-social is anti-social on a consistent basis.

      Sometimes we simply need some time to ourselves, to call us anti-social in that situation is to simply misunderstand the meaning of the term anti-social.

    16. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      Insightful, more like Flamebait and Troll.

    17. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I see absolutely no reason for
      > people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution. I

      How the fuck did this get marked as insightful? Perhaps they wanted to listen to music while they worked. Perhaps to block out the sound of other people talking.

      Jesus - I can't think of any reasons why you'd NOT want to listen to music - anywhere. I mean, unless you're talking to someone else.

    18. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Flamingcheeze · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I depend on my headphones at work in order to get any work done. For some reason, the way our offices are set up, I (an engineer) am stuck in the middle of the regulatory department. The conversations these people have could liquefy my brain.

      If not for my headphones and epitonic.com, I would have lost my mind months ago.

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    19. Re:anti-social behaviors... by moonbender · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unless he is using modern headphones which seal off the ear from everything but the music, it probably doesn't make that much of a difference compared to those morons whose car speakers are always run loud enough to entertain a whole traffic jam.

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    20. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ajservo · · Score: 1

      I disagree. I think kids at school should be allowed to wear them while not in a lesson or class. It's not disruptive to the neighbors, and like the article states, it gives the user back some control over their life.

      I don't know what school you went to, but when I was bombarded by ads and promotional people for:
      Red Bull, Pepsi, Coke, EMI, SONY Records, MTV, book manufacturers, Jostens, magazine subscription, and the like I would have killed to have an ipod. It's insane how badly companies want to advertise their crap on you in college.

      It's the same basis that I wear and carry my ipod with me everywhere now.

      If I want the social interaction, I turn the ipod off.

      That music that your students are listening to can help them focus during studying too.

    21. Re:anti-social behaviors... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      As I work in large research lab/room in a education institution, I can explain this. Perhaps it's the way that some people are wired, but may of us seem to use the audio buffers in our brains to store temporary information about the tasks we're doing. If there are any sudden loud noises, then we lose track of whatever we're doing, and have to start over again. Such noises include slamming door, someone racking their printouts from the laser printer to get the sides lined up (that seems to get to everyone), slamming shut the papers trays of the laser printer, rummaging through filing cabinets (opening and slamming doors). The only way to shield yourself from this continuous barrage of random "audio spam" is to wear a set of headphones and play something calming. (My favourite is Peter Gabriel's "Steam" or USURA's "Open Your Mind" for 3D animation work).

      Maybe I'm slightly autistic or something, but I've always found myself distracted by such information. Playing football on a playing field, and I'd find the wind turbulence patterns and the shadows of the clouds moving across the grass more interesting than the battle going on between two lumbering jocks at the centre of the field.

    22. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Chewie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wow, I'm glad to find that it's not just me. I have ADHD (non-medicated), but it's absolutely impossible for me to get any work done without listening to music. Headphones are great at work because even in an open cube, I can find some isolation without bothering people around me.

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    23. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Bigbutt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As someone with ADHD I can agree. I'm surrounded by cube dwellers working on similar problems (network group). I keep a music player running all the time, sometimes low, sometimes louder so I can maintain concentration on what I'm doing.

      I work better if I'm at home dialed in, but I also lose the interactivity that's sometimes necessary.

      I've asked to see if I can telecommute full time. We'll see how that goes.

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    24. Re:anti-social behaviors... by LeninZhiv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are we to infer from this that you regularly strike up conversations with members of the general public walking down the street? I'd be curious to know whether you (and particularly the strangers you approach) actually find this to be worthwhile socialising.

      For my own part, the only conversations strangers have initiated with me while I was walking down the street all begin with "spare some change?" Even that is rare enough that I have no problem listening to headphones to break up the monotony and don't feel it's being "anti-social". (Although I'll side with you in the case of being in a school--but not walking down the street or on the bus, those are just monotonous daily routines that never contain any socialising whether you're open to it or not.)

    25. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I choose to listen to music that's my business. *YOU* have no say in how I run my life, as much as that may bother you.

    26. Re:anti-social behaviors... by moonbender · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's true that different people have different appetites for social interaction, but you can never be truly human if you decide to block out everything.

      Of course one could argue that either a) your definition of what is human and what is not is sheer arrogance and simply wrong or b) that it is correct and being human in accordance with your definition is just not something everybody would aspire to.

      For instance, I might say that you can never be truly human unless you understand vector calculus, but my s.o. would either disagree - or shrug and admit to not even wanting to be human if that is what it takes. For another example, I can very well imagine some religious persons claiming that religion is a defining characteristic of our species (history and society tend to agree) and say that you can never be truly human if you decide to block out God. To both of that my reply above stands.

      Not that I necessarily disagree with what you say, but I think it's a fairly subjective point, and a fairly weak one in a discussion. Cheers, anyway. ;)

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    27. Re:anti-social behaviors... by WorkEmail · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Good point. I think a nice car system sound good, on the inside of the car. But when it gets beyond that I just don't see the point. Why spend so much money on a speaker system for such a little area? In a car system you should just aim for quality sound, instead of how loud it will go and how much bass you can thump.

      There is nothing more annoying than an old nasty car that has thousands of dollars in speaker equipment in it. Or nice rims. If you have the money for those, work on getting a new car first!

    28. Re:anti-social behaviors... by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And since when is anti-social behavior immediately seen as a negative thing.

      People are social animals. Period. Even when Thoreau was by himself at Walden Pond, he wrote about social things that he experienced before going to walden (Civil Disobedience, Self Reliance, etc), and he did eventually leave walden.

      A human that is not raised in a social environment would not be "human". Think Tarzan and whatnot.

      However, as with Self Reliance, it is nice, if not health and beneficial to be alone and in touch with one's "self", and I do not consider that to be anti-social. Nor do I see using headphones in a public place as being anti-social.

    29. Re:anti-social behaviors... by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah I do start conversations with strangers. Anything to get a smile. I don't know if they find it worthwhile but I most certainly do. Do you really prefer to hole up in your house and be force fed 50% of your free time?

    30. Re:anti-social behaviors... by yulek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I work at a technical college and see numerous students with headphones on (I don't believe I have seen earbuds recently). I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      How fascist of you.

      All of those who have worn headphones at the office without actually listening to anything raise your hand! [/me raises hand].

      It's a great way to get people to leave you alone when you're busy trying to concentrate; something that's very important in the modern office which often lacks even cubicles.

      Subconsciously or not, I sometimes put my headphones on, fully meaning to hit play on the playlist of the day but something takes my attention away and three hours later I'm still coding with winamp in stopped mode. But nevertheless, those were 3 uninterrupted hours.

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    31. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2, Funny

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    32. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too, but I also need either a couple shots of hard liquor or some ecstacy get anything done.

    33. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Is it a bad thing when a CS student wants to put his headphones in the computer lab to block out all the other converstations (sometimes in different languages) around him so that he can concentrate?"

      Holy shit dude, are you watching me or something??

    34. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Savatte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution

      Not even in, say, a school of music?

    35. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't possibly listen to music while writing code. You see, I'm a bass player too (the instrument, not the fish) and I wind up listening to bass parts and drum parts instead of thinking algorithms, functions and syntax. My coworkers get pissed, but I have this curse...

    36. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is it a bad thing that Henry David Thoreau (walden) worked best when he removed himself from society?

      Excuse me, but some people that are not full of themselves or the traditional literature that everyone is supposed to respect, are usually laughing at Thoreau's hypocritical ways.

    37. Re:anti-social behaviors... by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tarzan? No, not Tarzan. Think of mentally deficient, socially inept, and physically retarded.

      Kasper Hauser Syndrome has a lot to do w/a lack of social interaction as a child. It causes problems with stature, mental development (which is sometimes reversable), and social interactions.

      Book here at Amazon.

    38. Re:anti-social behaviors... by modecx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm with both of ya.

      Certianly, the variety of music influences me; fast punk rock gets me going, (some!)techno helps me concentrate for long periods of time, and most rap just about kills what little attention span I had (but most old-school rap I can live with).

      I can't--ABSOLUTELY CANNOT--stand music that has very many repeated samples. The exactitude of the repetition and timing for whatever reason take my attention away near instantaenously (example: a sampled clap.)

      Clapping ALWAYS sounds different. It's nigh impossible to make clapping sound the same EVERY time, but some musicians use this sampled clapping as a sort of metronome. It's too damned artificial--has no soul. This applies to repleated sampled voices, too... It's something that's plauged recent pop music; makes me sick (literally).

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    39. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Greedo · · Score: 1

      Unsafe, and illegal.

      At least here in Canada.

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    40. Re:anti-social behaviors... by mindstrm · · Score: 1

      Though that logic makes sense at first, it's not true.

      Certainly with a really loud car stereo, the effect is the same.. but there is somethin gabout the way headphones work that relatively quiet headphones really do cut you off from the outside world much more than speaker listening at the same volume... partly due to how your brain intereprets the sound, how your awareness focuses.

      Try this.. get a little stereo, and some headphones, and adjust both so listening to the same tune seems to be at the same volume. Don't pick a high volume.. a medium, easy listening one. Then try to have a conversation with someone in the room... you will find it's a lot easier to talk to them when listening to the stereo as opposed to the headphones, despite having the same volume at the ear.

    41. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cpex · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      my big distration in class is my laptop with 802.11 :)

      not just me either, at any time if you sit on the back about o third of the class will have laptops out doing spmething obviously not class related

    42. Re:anti-social behaviors... by WorkEmail · · Score: 1

      Driving with headphones on is illegal here in Minnesota also.

    43. Re:anti-social behaviors... by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      was it just me or did this "article" read more like an ad for iPod than anything else?

      I actually was discussing this article w/someone else and had metioned that the "research" had no real impact and I was saddened by yet another worthless grant giving to a professor.

      If this had been paid for by Apple then maybe I would have been ok w/it.

    44. Re:anti-social behaviors... by nate1138 · · Score: 1

      We do very little REAL social interaction as it is. Do we really want to become even more anti-social creatures by promoting music as some sort of "shield" from the outside world? Remember, the average person spends about 50% of their daily free time at home watching TV.

      I'm not so sure it is just about tuning out people. With the constant visual stimulus (advertising) that we are bombarded with every single waking moment, a little aural isolation isn't a bad thing at all.

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    45. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1
      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      In the computer lab at my university there are :
      • Annoying ventilation noises.
      • People discussing their projects.
      • People listening to loud hiphop on their headphones
      • The sounds of people coming and going.
      • People asking questions and being awnsered to.
      • People using that loud card reader to get access to the printer.
      • The printer.
      • People in the hall and adjacent cafeteria being loud.
      • People coughing, sneezing.

      I think that people are shy enough as it is. We do very little REAL social interaction as it is. Do we really want to become even more anti-social creatures by promoting music as some sort of "shield" from the outside world? Music is something I like to enjoy with others at concerts and at home..

      And
      • Extroverts who refuse to stop distracting people working quietly on their projects.


      Nothing like finding a new genre of music you have never heard before because a friend had it playing in the car or in his house.

      I see no reason to wear headphones at home or in a car with friends.
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    46. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Ghaki · · Score: 1

      The defining characteristic of our species is the ability to reason. We are the wise-wise-ape. Homo Sapien Sapien.

      Social behavior is found in many other animal species (ant hills, wolf packs, prairie dog communities, etc.) So it isn't unique to us, and for us, it is chosen - not an instinct. (i.e., our ability to reason, and hence choose our behavior, is primary.)

      So it would completely inappropriate to use that as a defining characteristic for our species.

      Just because extroverts make up the majority does not mean introverts are somehow less than human for not sharing your animalistic pre-human pack mentality. ;-)

    47. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      If there are any sudden loud noises, then we lose track of whatever we're doing, and have to start over again. Such noises include slamming door

      All my life, I've allways been the only one in my class NOT startled by slamming doors.
      I am, however, distracted by the mumblings of 30 students complaining about being startled.

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    48. Re:anti-social behaviors... by smcv · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      I'm a maths student; like many students here, I do a lot of work on problem sheets (i.e. homework) between or after lectures, in the university maths department canteen/common room. I find wearing earphones and listening to music helps me to concentrate on what I'm doing by masking out random noises, the conversation on the next table, or whatever; also, even if I'm not making progress, I find music makes it less frustrating/boring to work on one question for a long time.

      If I'm with friends I usually leave the headphones off, unless I want to concentrate (e.g. imminent deadline :-), in which case the headphones not only give me music to listen to, but act as a mild "do not disturb" sign (I suppose I mean "don't talk to me just for the sake of it, but if you want to ask me something specific, go ahead"). So, yes, I'm being slightly antisocial, but the alternative is hiding in the library or my room and being completely antisocial.

    49. Re:anti-social behaviors... by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Welcome to the REAL world!

      And don't think it stops with your school. It is like this at work too, get used to it and you'll never pay attention to it again. When you continously are using headphones to listen to music and suddenly take them off, the world around you will sound loud and very noisy. It's like living next door to a railroad line or an airport, after a while you'll never pay attention to a passing train or an airplane taking off. Using headphones all the time will give you a shock when you take them off and a train rambles by.

      With some practice, the noise around you is automatically shut out if you don't listen to music all the time.

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    50. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Sangui5 · · Score: 1

      Another thing, which is better--to tell people "Go away, I don't want to talk to you", or to wear headphones and let them figure it out on their own. If I'm going to be in a situation where I know people are going to be pestering me, I'll take my MP3 player along. I don't get hassled, and the hasslers don't get a punch in the mouth. Everybody is better off.

    51. Re:anti-social behaviors... by FePe · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Before in the article, he has said this:

      '"They construct their moods, they re-make the time of their day," says Dr Bull., "It's a much more active process even though it's dependent on the machinery."

      Choice is the key factor, he says. By choosing the music, you reclaim some of the world - it's no longer dominated by messages pointed at you.'

      I don't think he means that we should use mp3 players to leave the outside world out, but rather take more control of the outside world.

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    52. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How fascist of you.

      Get a clue before you use this word incorrectly again.

      He's absolutely correct, you should be LEARNING at a college not listening to music.

    53. Re:anti-social behaviors... by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Right, you might be listening to Prairie Home Companion and be bored into causing a massive accident.

      Well, we have Sue Scott with The Calico Monologues and Big Mike Thompson will do a series of tabby imitations. Later on, our special guests, The Nyquil Trio, will sing some songs about cats, then I'll talk about a loser detective and the case of the Swede who didn't like meatballs.

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    54. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      i prefer to strike up conversations with cute girls in my university. even just a smile and a 'hi'. since my college isn't really all that big, and for the most part everyone has at least one class in every building, i find myself saying hi to the same cute girls every so often. i've done this for around 2 years, and over the course of that time most of them will say 'hi' in return, and on good days most of them will smile back and hold eye contact. this may sound trivial, but for a lonely college student it can mean a lot!

      an interesting thing that happened as a direct result of this was that i bumped into one of the aforementioned girls while eating lunch outside of school, and she asked me if we had met before. i told her we had not. she proceeded to tell me that she didn't usually find complete strangers saying 'hi' to her in school - so i took a leap of faith and asked her out for coffee so we wouldn't be strangers anymore. and she accepted!

      so for simply being a little more courteous to the people around me, and taking some time out to think about whether the person beside me has been having a good day or not, i got an enjoyable date and a new (attractive) friend in return.

      if that isn't a good reason to start conversations with strangers then i don't know what is.

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    55. Re:anti-social behaviors... by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Just out of curiosity, are you making this up as you go (no offense) or do you have any background/references that confirm what you say? :)

      I haven't performed the experiment you suggest, but note that if it proves anything, then it's not entirely the same as what we were talking about (you didn't say it was, of course). Differences at a medium to low volume do not necessarily imply differences (of the same magnitude) at the high volumes I was referring to, ie. the guys whose bass makes the whole car jump.

      In fact I agree that when wearing headphones and listening to music that does not appear to be very loud, I have trouble talking to other people (which is why I never do that - not to mention that it's extremely impolite). On the other hand, my perception may be wrong, since I typically use headphones on the train ride to the uni, where the overall background noise level (due to the train, mostly) is already so high, you often can't talk to other people without raising your voice. And now that I think about it, my (in-ear) headphones do a fairly good job at canceling outside noise, so it's not surprising that I don't understand people talking to me very well.

      While looking to find out whether listening to music over headphones on a bike is illegal here in Germany, I found an interesting, if poorly designed page discussing, or maybe rather opining, why the legality is arguable since headphones on a bike are (allegedly) less problematic than car radio speakers. Of course the page is of little use to people unfamiliar with the language.

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    56. Re:anti-social behaviors... by yulek · · Score: 1

      Get a clue before you use this word incorrectly again.

      Fascism: 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
      Fascist: 1 : an advocate of fascism

      the poster i was replying to was saying that there's no place for headphones in an educational setting, but i say it's none of his goddamn business.

      He's absolutely correct, you should be LEARNING at a college not listening to music.

      who says you're not learning while you're listening to music???

      i'm guessing i just got trolled...

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    57. Re:anti-social behaviors... by doorbot.com · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately a lot of the music other people listen to sucks.

      I always see people with the earbud type headphones on the underground. When I can hear their music, that means it's too loud. When I'm standing five feet away on a crowded bus and I can hear your music through a 1 cm speaker pushed into your ear... my guess is you're going to have hearing problems in the future. Now I don't really mind because it's not like a boombox blaring, but at the same time, my experience with those kinds of headphones has been when you turn the volume up that loud, they sound worse.

    58. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      like me... right now....

      oh hi mister teacher! did you know about the new Slashdot context in Novell?

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    59. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      True, and the percentage of introverts that have driven, science, art, technology and civilization forward is far higher than you might think. As to why these people were introverted: well, that's another question. Perhaps they just wanted some QUIET to concentrate on bringing the human race out of the mud, which is often difficult what with all the (ahem) normal people running around trying to socialize with them, or kill them for trying to break the status-quo. Some of us do our best work alone, period. Hell, if we'd just left our best, brightest and most introverted types alone all these centuries, we'd have world peace, free fusion power and self-sustaining colonies on planets of the nearer stars by now.

      But it is also a mistake to pigeonhole someone as an "introvert" or "extrovert" based upon their behavior in one specific setting. For example, if I go to a party (rare, but I occasionally succumb) people think of me as being somewhat extroverted. I'm not the life of the party, but I'll get around and mix. On the other hand, at work I've deliberately encouraged people to think of me as in introvert. Why? Because at work I'm paid to write code, not socialize and make friends. As a software engineer my work entails sustained concentration that is easily disturbed by well-meaning cubemates: consequently I've had to train them to disturb me only when necessary, and at their peril. This helps me maintain productivity, and if they perceive me as strictly introverted that's just fine.

      See, the true introvert a. wants to be left alone and b. will cheerfully leave others alone. Many people just don't understand or accept that, and keep trying to break down walls that really aren't there. Furthermore, introvertedness/extrovertedness is really a spectrum, with many of us just not so dependent upon social interaction as others. And again, much of the behavior of people at either end of the spectrum is situational.

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    60. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      When you continously are using headphones to listen to music

      Shut up troll, I never said I was listening to music on headphones continuously.

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    61. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Phred+T.+Magnificent · · Score: 1

      In what way is anti-social behavior "bad"?

      I realize that all humans -- even people like me -- need some social interaction. But is it really a problem if we try to limit when, where and how much?

      It seems to me that people who want more social interaction can always find it. I fail to see anything wrong with wanting -- and finding -- less.

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    62. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Every time I hear folks complain about 'anti-social' people, I am reminded of this: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/03/rauch.ht m

    63. Re:anti-social behaviors... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

      Try dropping a whiteboard pen into a metal trash can - that's much more effective. Especially when next to a student who's sleeping.

    64. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cosmol · · Score: 1
      Do you really prefer to hole up in your house and be force fed 50% of your free time?

      Most of the time, yes. Let me tell you why.

      Like you (i presume), I'm a jamband fan and I enjoy the occasional show and collect as many live recordings as I can. I went to see my farvorite artist (keller williams) the other night and while the music was divine as usual, I couldn't hear/see it very well because of the mass of humanity that engulfed me. It seemed like half of them came to the show just to yell at each other over the music. Now If you like to socialize that's great, but I came there to listen to the music. I realized then that I enjoy listening to recordings at home many times more than being part of a noisy crowd.

      But that's just my preference. You aren't me, and I'm not you. To assume that I should enjoy what you enjoy is selfish and wrong-headed. Keirsey says this well. In our american culture, you are supposed to be outgoing and constantly seek the company of others, If you are reserved and solitutude seeking then there must be something wrong with you.

    65. Re:anti-social behaviors... by firewrought · · Score: 1
      Is it a bad thing when a CS student wants to put his headphones in the computer lab to block out all the other converstations (sometimes in different languages) around him so that he can concentrate?

      IMO, it's the conversations in my own language that tend to disrupt my conversation. With a few exceptions (like Cantonese), foreign languages generally sound like pleasant background music to me. (And bonus points if the speaker is French, Japanese, or female.)

      There use to be these two Asian kids in my computer lab that would discuss their projects with each other using really broken english in tense, panicy voices. They were rather loud. That always shot my concentration to complete hell.

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    66. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ADHD is a made up disorder. You're probably some idiot who has self-diagnosed yourself. Here's a cure: PAY ATTENTION MORON!!!

      Jesus Christ, this society is in trouble when people proclaim themselves to be afflicted with the inability to pay attention. You're an idiot - go fuck yourself.

    67. Re:anti-social behaviors... by 00420 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately a lot of the music other people listen to sucks. I'm glad they wear their headphones, it doesn't shield them, it sheilds me.

      I know you were joking, but at my school I've actually seen a couple of people walking through the halls listening to radios (no headphones). Nothing like a good(?) pop song to distract you from studying.

      So personally, I have to agree that it doesn't shield them, it shields me.

    68. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, KW is killer and all but I couldn't say that I would be able to afford 50% of my free time to be spend paying for his ticket prices.

    69. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cygnus · · Score: 1
      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.
      er... what if you're in music school?
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    70. Re:anti-social behaviors... by boneglorious · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If we have become "physically isolationists" (by which I assume you mean people who don't want to be accosted by random strangers) I wish the men who go about harassing women on the street would get a clue about that.

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    71. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 1

      Me, err., three...

      Now the next question:

      Which kind of music works BEST?

      I find classical too...pastoral. Tends to make me mellow out and REALLY not get anything done.

      Hard/classic/blues based rock is too likely to make me get a little mini-headbang going (a problem at work, not at home...)

      I've found so called 'jam band' music to be excellent... Phish, Widespread Panic, the Dead, etc...

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    72. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    73. Re:anti-social behaviors... by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      YOU are the one with a mental illness if you think people wanting to be alone in their free time is somehow "wrong".

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    74. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with what you're saying -- that it's easy to be distracted by noises that should be easy to ignore sometimes.

      personally, I end up fixated on mouth noises from people two cubes over eating lunch, or a bag of chips. I just can't ignore the noise -- I wish I could.

      It just interrupts whatever I'm thinking about so much that all I can do is sit and listen to them eating until they finish. Or grab some headphones to drown out the noise.

      I think it's a combination of sloppy manners some people have when they eat, and my hypersensitivity to small noises when I'm trying to work.

      But in the end, it's my problem to work around.

      I'll bet other people here can relate.

    75. Re:anti-social behaviors... by holizz · · Score: 1

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      You never had/have free periods at school (or any other educational institution) then?
      I have about four hours in a row free once a fortnight and plenty of three-hour and two-hour frees on my current timetable. I usually sleep in the three and four hour frees (I missed half a lesson once because I slept through the bell). If my mind was kept awake (by music, for example) I may be able to get some work done. It is VERY VERY boring in the common room.

    76. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Chewie · · Score: 1

      Oh, when I *have* to get things done, my normal plan of attack is to drink a bunch of coffee, and scan through my playlist trying to find the fastest, hardest music I can (early Fear Factory works well, as does some breakbeat techno). Then I just go. Otherwise, I'm a big live trance/hard house/breakbeat fan.

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    77. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember being told on more than a few occasions by friends, "If you move to New York City, make sure you bring a walkman or you'll get stopped every 30 seconds by people asking for stuff."

    78. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here, but I play the fish.

    79. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. The defining characteristic of our species is the ability to use language. While we've built reason on top of that, the biggest advantages that language gives us are social in nature: The ability to develop social structures far more complex and varied than those employed by the social animals you mention, and the ability to transmit complex ideas between individuals.

      Having a great ability to transmit ideas between individuals is actually more important than having many individuals who can develop ideas, because the transmission means that the 'developers' can benefit from each others insights.

    80. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the rhythm of the music allows ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) to concentrate better

      Is it a good thing that the disorder is better concentrated?

      Troll? Probably.

    81. Re:anti-social behaviors... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Here at work...everyone AROUND me uses headphones...because...I DON'T....hahaha.

      :-P

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    82. Re:anti-social behaviors... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      And I do. If I could, I'd have worn them for every test I took. Unfortunately, there are usually regulations against such devices at such times. There are many people out there that can focus much better with a familiar song playing in the background, and headphones would allow those people to perform best during the test without bothering those that prefer a more traditional test envoronment.

      But then someone that can see no reason for them to be worn at any time at an educational institution does not seem to be a very understanding person.

    83. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, know that I read and code better with music playing than without. I even type better. For the past semester, I did quite a bit of typesetting work in a few of my classes. I was the usually the fastest typographer and I always made the fewest errors as far as I could tell. I always finished either first or second and my work was always significantly more accurate (both with respect to typos and with respect to layout) than anyone who beat me in speed. Normally, it only took me a single proof and then my final to get everything correctly sized and spaced to within about a point. I did all of this while listening to various music, from vocal trance to classical to Rammstein.

    84. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...gratuitous amounts of cowbell."

      Man that's weird ... that's EXACTLY what my buddy said about my first attempt at arranging loops in GarageBand!

    85. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Belgand · · Score: 1

      I really like Godspeed You Black Emperor! for much of my daily task music. It's complex, instrumental, yet hard enough to prevent me from completely dozing off. As well their music is in long-form compositions of ~20 min or so divided into individual movements so you can just put on an album and allow yourself to wash in and out of it. Not to everybody's tastes though.

    86. Re:anti-social behaviors... by MoronBob · · Score: 1

      I have been diagnosed with Adult Attention Deficit Disorder and headphones seem to help a great deal. However I have a question. What kind of disorder do the women around me have that makes them yell into the telephone at the top of their voice as if noone can here them. Or maybe they want the entire office to know that they are going skiing for the weekend. I wish they would come up with some medication for that. Are they just complete morons or is it just me ? Should I like hearing that crap all day at full volume?

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    87. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Belgand · · Score: 1

      I'll admit that sometimes I'll just leave headphones in to avoid being accosted by people as I walk around campus. It's certainly saved me a number of times from Mormons, people giving out bibles, and all manner of people haranguing me during the day. Otherwise, well... it means that I have to wander around and I'd like to listen to music while I do it. Same reason I leave music on at home, I like to hear it. When I'm out in public though it's not only the only convenient method, but the only polite one not to inflict my music on other people. Look at assholes who drive around with their cars thumping bass to the next block over. They're the anti-social types here.

      Wanting to listen to Nine Inch Nails without inflicting it on the other members of my lab though is merely a polite action, keeping it in, not keeping others out.

    88. Re:anti-social behaviors... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > A human that is not raised in a social environment would not be "human". Think Tarzan and whatnot.

      Tarzan was not human??? (err... ignoring that it's fiction) He certainly was human. Human is defined by a species, not by social interaction. Stating otherwise is just incorrectly redefining a preexisting term. If Tarzan was not human, he could not have had children with Jane. Not all people are social. Period. Just saying "period" doesn't make it true. Thoreau wrote about other people because otherwise, it would not have been a very interesting story. Try telling a story with no characters. (Animal characters are still "human" characters if they can talk, do other human stuff, etc) It is extremely difficult to do well, so I wouldn't expect him to try.

    89. Re:anti-social behaviors... by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      "Which kind of music works BEST?"

      IIRC, that would be Baroque instrumental music. No, I can't remember where that study came from, I just remember reading it ~7-8 years ago.

      I also remember them discussing that, particularly if you're reading, you don't want vocals. It tends to cause cross-circuiting if someone's essentially talking in your ear while you're trying to read. Kind of like someone saying random numbers while you're trying to do a math problem in your head.

    90. Re:anti-social behaviors... by aoeu2 · · Score: 1

      I heard that listening to Mozart can help you do better on test and study because of the rythmn involved can stimulate your brain.

      Listening to Mozart @ this moment...

    91. Re:anti-social behaviors... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      Clickable Link because it's a good article. I enjoyed it.

    92. Re:anti-social behaviors... by jacoby · · Score: 1

      For myself I realized that wearing headphones was not a good idea since the tendency was to drown out external stimuli.

      Is there something wrong with drowning out unwanted external stimuli?

    93. Re:anti-social behaviors... by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      I was talking about the general public walking down the street blocking out the rest of the world because they wanted to be in their "cocoon".

      Or it can turn into a new social phenomenon!

    94. Re:anti-social behaviors... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Another thing that would help is if they stopped dressing like tramps

      Bah, it's their right to dress like sluts! But somehow it's not my right to react like they are sluts. I guess only women & minorities have full rights.

    95. Re:anti-social behaviors... by xanos3001 · · Score: 1

      I thought it was just me being weird. Now a days, with cellphones and nextel's two-ways, I need to create noise shut out the noise. Also, creating a perfect world with the music you like and all the images that make you happy. Creating that "happy place" so boy, I guess I need to psych-Doctor now???

    96. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

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    97. Re:anti-social behaviors... by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      We are not flawed because we are anti-social, we are just different.

      After seeing the term used so much in this discussion, I'm thinking anti-social just isn't quite right. Maybe asocial would be a bettern term. Its not like we're really anti-social, we just don't always want to be pro-social.

    98. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Portable music is getting more and more popular...Get used to it. If you pass me on the street and you have something to tell me, I'll take my headphones off. By the same token, if I want to speak to someone else, the headphones come off. I think that there's not much worthwhile about a discussion on this topic. It's all about what people want to do. To each their own.

    99. Re:anti-social behaviors... by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      I see absolutely no reason for people to be listening to music while in any sort of educational institution.

      Aside from all the other replies about blocking out distracting music. there are very good reasons to listen to music while studying. Try a quick Google search, there are all kinds of studies showing that listening to the right kind of music while studying can help increase productivity and retention. Dead silence really isn't all that conducive to learning.

    100. Re:anti-social behaviors... by dead+sun · · Score: 1
      Well, I don't watch TV. I think I've watched the news once in the past 3 months or so. I watch movies on a semi-regular basis, but that's at my discretion of movie and time. Most anything I watch is anime, and that tends not to be quite a bit less than even 10% of my free time.

      I find strangers that just walk up to me on the street and start talking to be extremely creepy. Yes, I'm an introvert, but I have plenty of friends and hold conversations and even arguements with people I know without issue. What in the world posseses somebody to just strike up a conversation with me I'll never know.

      I wear headphones when I'm out walking alone very often because I love listening to music and am not planning to interact with anybody. That doesn't mean I won't take them off if I see interaction coming up. I did so just last week to help somebody take a picture of themself against the Minneapolis skyline. No biggie, and it wasn't somebody randomly wanting to hear my life story or tell me theirs. The only time it has ever stopped interaction that I knew of and I didn't take them off is the religious nuts that stop everybody they think will listen. But I've stopped and played their games and debated philosophy with them too. At least I know why they're talking to random people.

      I smile at people as I walk past them, and often they smile back. It's polite and unobtrusive. I'll never just randomly start a conversation though. People that do just weird me out way too much.

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    101. Re:anti-social behaviors... by angle_slam · · Score: 1

      I used to have to listen to instrumental music to work. But now I realize that I usually filter out the words anyway, so words are fine.

    102. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who says you're not learning while you're listening to music???

      Oh you are fucking trolling now idiot. Don't be so fucking stupid. You knew exactly what he was talking about and you decided to play some sort of stupid devil's advocate.

      Don't be dumb.

    103. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides, there are other uses for that finger... Oh wait, are we talking of the same finger?
      crap...

    104. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Radnor · · Score: 1

      Yes, because everyone is JUST LIKE YOU! How stupid of us to realize that these silly diagnoses are just made up.

      Go back to the 18th century, asshole.

    105. Re:anti-social behaviors... by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      In some situations it's a handicap. In others a benefit. I find for myself that headphones are great at work and not-so-great on the bus. YMMV.

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    106. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      *shrug* eh, whatever.

      How're those anger management sessions going? It looks like you're getting better. Maybe they'll take you off of the drugs soon.

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    107. Re:anti-social behaviors... by SnappleMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That makes perfect sense to me as well. Therefore you and I are old!

      My $0.02 on the original topic: too much thought on too trivial an issue. So what if we isolate ourselves? Go to any big city and you'll find that people ignore and dehumanize each other 99.99% of the time anyways. Headphones don't help any experienced city-dweller in that area.

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    108. Re:anti-social behaviors... by silicon+not+in+the+v · · Score: 1

      There was a friend of mine who was on a long car trip. Instead of the tape player not working, it did play, but there was a tape stuck in it. Since there was a tape in, it wouldn't play the radio, so the sound options were either play the tape or nothing. Here is where it descends into the seventh circle of Hell. The tape was a cassette single of "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred.

      He said he would listen to the song a few times until it drove him nuts and then would have to turn it off. After about a half hour, the silence would get to be too much, so he would turn it on again for another time or two through the song. Repeat ad nauseam.

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    109. Re:anti-social behaviors... by hatter10_6 · · Score: 1

      This is interesting. The current theory on stimulant prescription for people with ADHD is that they activate parts of the brain that controls inhibition. Therefore, the thoughts would not go all over the place. I wonder if music does the same as stimulants such as Ritalin.

    110. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, I'm 22, and I've hated that sort of thumping since I can remember people doing it (mid 90's?)

      Argh. It fucking makes me angry! Nothing like shell shock to piss 'ya off on a nice sunny day.

    111. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I talk to strangers, too, not passer-bys, but someone that I have to communicate with anyway: clerks, and the like. If there's something intriguing (piece of clothing, jewelry, hair, eyes, or whatever) about a person that I might not otherwise have to deal with, I might compliment that, and that's almost always sure to get a smile, and I'll always be happy to smile or wave at someone who is also smiling or waving (even if it's not at me, and I realize it)

      But I'll have to admit, that I'm in a relatively rural area; this sort of social activity would be nearly impossible in downtown Manhattan--there's just way too many people to try to acknowledge, so you gotta tune them out.

    112. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Michael+Hunt · · Score: 1

      Just because someone has an old car with expensive rims doesn't infer that the car is shit.

      Quite the opposite, potentially; if somebody's gone to the effort of spending $3-5k on a nice set of wheels, what else have they spent money on that you can't see?

      Now ricers... There's another kettle of fish altogether.

    113. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... Did ya get any?

    114. Re:anti-social behaviors... by instarx · · Score: 1

      Your opinion that we do little "REAL" social interacting is pretty much defined by your egocentric view of what the rest of the world should be doing. (I'm not insulting you - everyone has an egocentric view of the world.) I think you are only qualified to opine that *you* do very little real social interacting. Even then I think you would be wrong. In reality you do lots of real interacting - it just doesn't seem significant to you because your brain filters most of it out as unimportant to the business of surviving - just like it filters awareness of breathing. I think what you meant by "real" was that very little interaction is significant, but even then what you should have said is that very little interaction is noteworthy. That is a big difference.

      It seems to me that every millisecond of social interacting that goes on is real - from paying for your gum to ignoring the street vendors to professing your undying love for another. The point could even be made that imagined or dreamed interactions with others are "real" because they change our behavior just as face-to-face interactions do.

    115. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Chacham · · Score: 1

      ADD is a mythical disease. It's nothing more than an excuse for poor teacher to drug their students into submission.

      As someone misdiagnosed with this terrible joke, i am fully aware of how poor most teachers are.

    116. Re:anti-social behaviors... by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      I dunno if it's thoughts related. I know that if I'm in a situation where several people are close by (like a party or a going-away luncheon) having different conversations, I keep focusing on snippets of each conversation. Eventually I'll focus on the music and fade back to a chair. If there's nothing I can focus on, I'll get a headache.

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  2. Written up in Wired magazine, too. by The+I+Shing · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dr. Michael Bull was written up in Wired magazine, too, and Slashdot carried that story last month. Here it is.

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  3. Half a dupe. by sammy+baby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wired ran an article on this guy a couple of weeks ago. So, if you wondering why this sounds familiar, now you know.

    1. Re:Half a dupe. by ThePretender · · Score: 1

      nah it sounds familiar because I'm listening to the original story on my iPod right now

  4. Other reasons... by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some of us have to use headphones, as our music of choice violates obsenity laws and may damage small buildings...

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    1. Re:Other reasons... by AsbestosRush · · Score: 1

      You listen to Disater Area as well?!?

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    2. Re:Other reasons... by tgd · · Score: 1

      Thats why I wear pants, too.

    3. Re:Other reasons... by mordejai · · Score: 0

      Yeah... I like NOFX too =)

    4. Re:Other reasons... by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

      Did they tatoo a 31 on you as well?

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    5. Re:Other reasons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL, I think that one went way over everyone's head but you're pretty fly for a white guy.

  5. I created my own personal space... by stevens · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...because the programmer over the cube wall was constantly humming songs to herself. There's nothing more maddening than listening to someone hum while you're trying to code. Headphones were mandatory.

    I dropped the headphones when I got an office. What a blessing.

    1. Re:I created my own personal space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      it had to be better than
      "Corporate Accounts, Miranda Speaking, Just a moment" over and over and over in the same voice

    2. Re:I created my own personal space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      ITYM:
      "Corporate accounts payable Nina speaking, Just a moment"

    3. Re:I created my own personal space... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's nothing more maddening than listening to someone hum while you're trying to code.

      What I hate the most is people with those hands free mobile ear/microphone sets. One of my colleagues whom I unfortunately have to work with alot has this annoying tendency to transition into a phonecall in the middle of a conversation. It annoys the hell out of everybody who has to deal with him since he has his phone switched to silent mode so there is no hint when somebody calls him, (which happens alot) causing him to drift off into a converstion whoever is on the phone and completely loose any interest in whoever he was talking to before. I don't think I have ever finsihed a conversation with that dude.

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    4. Re:I created my own personal space... by Hank+Scorpio · · Score: 1

      Oh man, I have a friend that does the exact same thing! Anybody want to write a definitive cell-phone etiquette guide that includes this particular behavior?

    5. Re:I created my own personal space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Milton: Well... I... I told Bill that if Sandra's going to listen to her headphones while she's filing, then I should be able to listen to the radio while I'm collating.
      Peter: Uh huh.
      Milton: So I don't see why I should ...
      Peter: OK.
      Milton: ... have to turn down the radio.
      Peter: Yeah, alright.
      Milton: I enjoy listening to my radio at a reasonable volume.
      Peter: Thanks... Milton.

    6. Re:I created my own personal space... by Single+GNU+Theory · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every time he does that, call him from your own cell phone. When he hits flash to pick up the newer call, continue with, "...As I was saying..." You could even go so far as to engage him in conversation as you're dialing his cell phone, but you'll have to experiment on him to determine how he deals with more than one incoming call on his phone.

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    7. Re:I created my own personal space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Man I wish I had mod points for you now! That's a great idea! (And your sig is pretty funny too)

    8. Re:I created my own personal space... by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "There's nothing more maddening than listening to someone hum while you're trying to code."

      Howabout 3 peoples' mobile telephones humming a tune? In time with the 4 office telephones ringing in sync...

    9. Re:I created my own personal space... by karnal · · Score: 1

      I have a problem with a friend who, whenever I call him and he's busy, he keeps on working (after hours) and basically ignores me. I spend 5 minutes on the phone (because I'm not patient, but I'm trying to respect the fact that we're still on the phone) because he doesn't pay enough attention to me to actually say "I'm busy, callya back.."

      That's annoying.

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  6. So true. by Shoten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I carry an MD player with me anywhere; I use it not just for music that suits my mood or for entertainment (life is more fun with its own soundtrack, don't you think?) but also to basically provide an excuse to ignore people (panhandlers, sidewalk vendors, ex-girlfriends...just kidding about the sidewalk vendors) that I don't want to interact with. But I never realized before that when I see someone else with headphones on, I've got this subconscious awareness of a kind of bubble around them which filters out certain kinds of interaction. I'd never think of asking a question or making small talk.

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    1. Re:So true. by spacefight · · Score: 2, Funny

      s/about the sidewalk vendors/about the ex-girlfriends/g

    2. Re:So true. by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd never think of asking a question or making small talk.

      Well, I agree that you are entitled to your own privacy and to not be disturbed at times, but you see people carrying these mp3 players everywhere. Whenever I go on the subway, every fourth person on the train is listening to music on their headphones.

      It comes to the point where people put on headphones wherever they go (as you said).

      Quoth the article, "listening to music acts as a shield, aura or cocoon."

      Let me make an analogy of an analogy. Perhaps, as technologically oriented individuals, we can consider this as being a firewall, or perhaps a blanket spam filter. The problem is, it filters everything out. It's like making a habit of putting a DND sign at your office or dorm entrance - it prevents you from interacting, having wonderful experiences.

      As I said in another post, life is worth living because it is dynamic and unpredictable. You will never know what you are missing if you choose to block out the world on a consistent basis. Maybe I am sitting on that subway train next to you, maybe we have some common interests. Maybe I have some interest tidbit of news, or a perspective on life or some other issue. But know what? That's too bad, because you'll never get to hear it, since I won't think to disturb you from listening to your music.

      Here's some advice: you're entitled to listen to your music, but once in a while get a little adventurous and take them off.

    3. Re:So true. by ajservo · · Score: 1

      Everyone that's reading into this as a social cutoff...

      I listen to my ipod to get all the advertising crap outta the way.

      My ipod features the following:
      - no jingles (I'm lovin' it!)
      - no commercials
      - no stupid DJ patter
      - no canned muzak
      - no stupid top 40 music
      - no sales pitches

      If ANYONE can find a way to where I can have a productive day with MUSIC in it without this, then please illuminate me as to how. Otherwise, your "social interactions" reasoning holds very little water in my case.

      I wasn't exactly people friendly to begin with, so this device didn't change all that much for me. It's not as if a person's gonna start bungee jumping with friends, or impromptu weenie roasts are going to start breaking out everywhere when people stop using these things...

    4. Re:So true. by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Whenever I go on the subway, every fourth person on the train is listening to music on their headphones.

      They are probably trying to ignore the every fourth person on the train who is talking about nothing on their cell phones.

    5. Re:So true. by anagama · · Score: 1


      Headphones are great when shopping. I've put on headphones before entering a store without even connecting them to anything. Just run the wire to my pocket. Cuts the annoying "can I help you?" from 1x/2min to nothing at all. Its funny to watch some retail droid start to open his/her mouth, then shut it and walk away.

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    6. Re:So true. by Shoten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't agree, though. I don't think it's like a firewall in that it's not content-ignorant, while a firewall is. When I see someone I do want to talk to, or something I do want to interact with, I turn them off and take them out of my ears. And by doing this, I produce a powerful effect; I've gone from the "Not interested" stance of having headphones on to the invitation to interact that is clearly demonstrated by obviously choosing to lower the shield for a particular person. And I am able to make topical decisions as to when and why I'll do that based on my other senses, which are not at all affected by the headphones. So it's more like a good spam filter than a firewall.

      And honestly, when was the last time a total stranger came up to you on the street to tell you something you wanted to hear? :)

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    7. Re:So true. by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People shouldn't be forced into social interaction if they don't want. It isn't inherantly healthy. If you haven't heard about introverts and extraverts, read up on it. The basics are that introverts like to keep to themselves, extraverts like to interact with others. Most people fall somewhere along a continium in between.

      Neither is an inherantly better or correct way to be. American culture tends to put more value in being an extravert, Japanese culture tends to put more value in being an introvert. Really, we just need to have respect for differen't people's different comfort levels and likes and dislikes.

      For example I am generally an introvert. My idea of a good weekend is spending time at home sleeping, watching movies, playing computer games, and maybe going out with a small group of friends. If I go to something like a party, I like it to be small, no more than 15 people, and almost all people I know. My sister is a huge extravert. She works as a bartender is ALWAYS going out, loves gigantic parties, wants everyone to know who she is, etc.

      We are both happy, well adjusted people. I enjoy my life, she enjoys hers. Neither of us would enjoy the other's life. She would go insane sitting around at home for a weekend and I get really drained by having to go out all the time.

      So if the introverts want to use music as a way to shield them, that's fine and not an inherantly unhealthy thing. You can, of course, go to far. People do need SOME human contact, but that doesn't mean dealing with stangers. Some people have a very small comfort zone that doesn't easily grow to include new people. That is fine and that is normal.

    8. Re:So true. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      I bought an iPod primarly because I figured it's a good backup device, and because of the music functions I'm less likely to lose it.

      For a while, I tried taking it everywhere I went and using it more or less continuously. I discovered two things:

      * Earbud earphones are downright painful for me; and
      * I found the sense of isolation from the world downright unpleasant, as though I was missing opportunities.

      It turns out that I prefer experiencing the world around me to staying in my cocoon. So I wound up hooking it up to my home stereo system and I find it much more convenient than iTunes to control it, because I don't have to pull up or run iTunes. I also find that I can tolerate mixing of sound from multiple sources better than one; I can keep my music running in the background on my home stereo while editing video on the G5, even though the video itself has its own soundtrack. For some reason I couldn't do that when I had both my music and my soundtrack both playing on the G5.

      So my iPod wound up being extremely useful to me, just not in the way I thought it would be.

      D

    9. Re:So true. by flint · · Score: 0, Troll

      This thread's amateurish psych analysis is beginning to grate. All of the billions who have lived and died without ever having been on a subway can't possibly have found happiness without daily verbal interaction with strangers.

      Yep life is better on a subway.

    10. Re:So true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have tried being open to discussions with random people on public transportation, grocery stores, airplanes, etc... I can't remember ever hearing or experiencing anything that made the effort worthwhile. Don't kid yourself ... it is unlikely that the people around you will find you as interesting as you find yourself.

    11. Re:So true. by jamesoutlaw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are many times when I am on public transportation, on an airplane, or "stranded" (for lack of a better term) in a public place with strangers. Often I am not in the mood to listen to or chat with Joe Random about. I spend a large amout of my day around people and I relish every opportunity I have to enjoy a little "alone" time... it that means missing out on Joe Random's interesting insight into life, then so be it. I, however, don't feel that I am missing out on any wonderful experiences and to be honest, given my experiences, it's unlikely that I care about anyhting the Random Stranger sitting next to me thinks. In my experience, Random Stranger wants to convert me to his/her religion, debate politics, complain about the weather, or something equaly trite. You can call me an elitist snob, but discussing the War in Iraq or the pros/cons of Gay Marriage with Random Stranger on the bus is really not something I am interested in.

      There is a time and a place for social interaction. Also, everyone chooses when they are willing to interact with other people - just as I am choosing to reply to this message. Many people can not accept the fact that the people around them are open to interaction at the same time. I think it is very disrespectful to interrupt someone who is sitting quietly listening to music, reading, or just sitting and thinking simply because you feel the need to interact or you feel the need to share your interesting insights.

    12. Re:So true. by Niten · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're very right - wearing headphones does create a sort of "social bubble" around oneself, which people are often reluctant to break casually.

      Two weeks ago at the University of Florida, the school was gearing up for its annual Student Government elections. The most memorable part of this yearly tradition is being continuously harassed for votes by members of both major parties as one walks through campus. It is no exaggeration to say that the week before elections, it can be hard to walk fifty feet without being approached.

      Needless to say, repeatedly being approached - and in some cases followed - by people essentially trying to sell an idea to you isn't terribly fun. So, at the suggestion of my friends, I started wearing headphones during my walks between classes. I wasn't even listening to anything, actually; the headphone cord just dangled loose in my pocket. But after I started wearing the headphones, only one person tried to make an unsolicited bid for my vote, and she was easily dismissed by quickly pointing to my headphones. (I know how rude and cynical that might sound, but I'm sure that if you've ever seen UF during the week before SG elections, you would condone my behavior.)

      Dismissing party campaigners was a fun little social experiment, and it's interesting that somebody has decided to study these effects formally. This seems like a worthwhile area of investigation, in my opinion...

    13. Re:So true. by jsoffron · · Score: 1

      One thing that I think might play into this is that the world's only been a blaringly loud, brightly lit place for a relatively short period in its history, and it's not what a lot of us were built for. I don't think that it should be found to be odd that people want to find ways to deal with it, because it's not really a natural thing, in the sense that, up until very recent history, humans were just animals in the country, farming, hunting and gathering. Our senses now are so blunted by constant pounding information and close proximity of teeming masses of people that I don't think it's odd to try and reclaim, at the very least, our audio space. I certainly don't think it's any stranger than buying a house in the country, or going on a vacation (or turning off your tv one night, for that matter).

      And while I think that there are a lot of great experiences to be had in the brain-smashing that's walking down a manhattan street or taking the subway uptown, there's also something to being able to be by yourself in the thick of this muck. I don't think you're necessarily missing out because you're taking a breather, or because you find getting harassed by strangers to be unpleasant. You're just living your life.

    14. Re:So true. by Zabu · · Score: 1

      It's like making a habit of putting a DND sign at your office or dorm entrance - it prevents you from interacting, having wonderful experiences.

      DND: Do not disturb

      Originally misread as D&D: Dungeons & Dragons

      Still made sense though

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    15. Re:So true. by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 1

      And honestly, when was the last time a total stranger came up to you on the street to tell you something you wanted to hear? :)

      Last night there was this girl on the corner that told me something I wanted to hear. Then did something I wanted to do...

    16. Re:So true. by Chacham · · Score: 1

      As I said in another post, life is worth living because it is dynamic and unpredictable.

      According to the MBTI, that's a P trait. Js want quite the opposite. Especially when the pereson is an S. Considering J/P is about 50/50 in the population, your comment would be correct about half the time, and dreadfully incorrect for the other half.

  7. Post-modernist crap by bloggins02 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He analyzes them as a "tool whereby users manage space, time and the boundaries around the self."

    Or could it be that they just want to listen to music?

    Nah....

    1. Re:Post-modernist crap by Threni · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Or could it be that they just want to listen to music?

      Shush! He's an "expert"! He's got qualifications and everything.

    2. Re:Post-modernist crap by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A person I recently met was constantly wearing headphones. Indoors, outdoors, in his car (is that legal, btw?). It turns out he's done some hard time, and the only 'personal space' he was allowed in the big house was the world of listening to music.

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    3. Re:Post-modernist crap by foobsr · · Score: 1

      After all, he is an advanced (Dr.) psychologist and has to come up with more than the obvious.

      A good twist now would be to co-operate with him and come up with time saving music - along the lines of Paul van Hercks book ("Where Were You Last Pluterday? - the plot is that the hero of the story after being out of order for quite a while has an account of tera-units of unused time). Like: "Buy our iTimeSaver and save hours you can spend doing things you really love !".

      CC.

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    4. Re:Post-modernist crap by general_re · · Score: 2, Funny
      Or could it be that they just want to listen to music?

      How gauche. I take it you've never managed your boundaries? Transformed space and time? Hell, I bet you've never operated a single-aspect transformative device, let alone a multi-faceted one...

      :^)

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    5. Re:Post-modernist crap by torpor · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Whats the matter, he use a word you didn't understand? Whats insightful about completely invalidating a subject or report on the basis of whether or not its "post-modern"?

      This actually is an interesting observation to make, because it demonstrates different levels of human attention and perception as it relates to a functional substance (music) with which we all have a willing relationship. Its not just some 'post-modern crap' (unless that means what you think it means...) that someone pulled out of their ass just to 'sound special', as you seem to be implying.

      Maybe such reports will make a difference in other parts of the human sphere. I can see this report being used to support workers rights cases which allow/deny headphone use in more specialized workplaces, or which open the door for more flexibility in places where drudgery and repetition have traditionally not been responded to with much 'personal control' for the worker. (Yes Virginia, some people do work for a living...)

      My point is, why does this instant "de-valuation" of a report that has clear technical merit and applicability, provide insight? I fail to see it ... mabye I'm ignorant?

      {There really needs to be an Ignorant mod. item ... honestly. I'd use it, and would be happy to see it used ...}

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    6. Re:Post-modernist crap by torpor · · Score: 1

      I go everywhere with my iPod, and I've always got tunes on.

      Does that mean I'm a criminal? Whats wrong with constantly wearing headphones?

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    7. Re:Post-modernist crap by the_consumer · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you're not necessarily a criminal. But you're certainly no logician either.

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    8. Re:Post-modernist crap by fuzzix · · Score: 1

      There really needs to be an Ignorant mod. item ... honestly. I'd use it, and would be happy to see it used ...


      My tendency would probably be to ignore it ;-)
    9. Re:Post-modernist crap by barzok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In most locations yes, it is illegal to wear headphones while driving, riding a bicycle or operating any other mode of transportation on public roads.

    10. Re:Post-modernist crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and why, in your esteemed opinion, could they possibly want to listen to music?

    11. Re:Post-modernist crap by dekashizl · · Score: 1

      So what are you saying then, that only criminals can be logicians?

    12. Re:Post-modernist crap by changa · · Score: 1

      I started using my MP3 player when I got a job in downtown L.A.

      I just couldn't stand dodging people begging for money so I started wearing the player as a shield.

      Personal music is one way to get the world to back off a bit.

      After spending a year out of work you soon learn there is no such thing as spare change.

    13. Re:Post-modernist crap by the_consumer · · Score: 1

      No. I'm saying that neither yourself nor torpor can be logicians. Unless you're joking, in which case you can be a sardonic logician.

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    14. Re:Post-modernist crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the man is a complete tool, paid by apple to do a report that brings interest to the ipod.
      Anything that this nob can say about the ipod has already been said about the walkman 20 years ago.
      -opinion

    15. Re:Post-modernist crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or could it be that they just want to listen to music?

      Then why use headphones rather than regular speakers? You're creating a boundary between your personal space and public space, so you can listen to your music without involving those around you.

    16. Re:Post-modernist crap by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "In most locations yes, it is illegal to wear headphones while riding a bicycle"

      Best get those nice people at the car-modding shop to sort out a courier bag with 50W speakers in then, for riding around with. I wonder how many NiMH batteries you need to power a decent speaker system* for a 20-minute ride?

      * decent being that it annoys people within about 30 meters or so...

    17. Re:Post-modernist crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In what way is this postmodern? Do you even know what the word means?

    18. Re:Post-modernist crap by dekashizl · · Score: 1

      I will accept the latter, reserving the right to perform criminal acts independently of said assignment.

  8. in the workspace by psycht · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wish I had more opportunity to do this at work. Being able to separate yourself and focus on your work without being distracted it a heaven-sent.

    Alas, I'm on a helpdesk. That doesn't work out too well.

    1. Re:in the workspace by rishistar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well I do wear headphones at work regularly (even if there is no music playing) - it is psycological as it helps focussing on the matter in hand even if there aren't people discussing things in the room (though usually they are). A modern day thinking cap perhaps?

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    2. Re:in the workspace by zeus_tfc · · Score: 1

      We do the same in our office. When the headphones are on, it acts as a "Do not disturb" sign. Everone in the office understands this, and leaves the person alone to get work done, instead of wandering over and attempting to chat with them. We have joked about it on occation. One of my co-workers has a pair of the very large high-quality headphones as opposed to the typical earbuds. We refer to his mammoth headphones as his "cone of silence".

      Interesting to see an article on something I see pretty much every day.

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    3. Re:in the workspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're the person humming every time I call up to get the print queue cleared!

  9. Is This Science??? by moehoward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't see any empirical results. Have any experiments that he's done been reproduced? What are his methodologies.

    Sounds like junk-science to me. The guy has a hypothesis. That's about it.

    Here's my hypothesis: "Music sounds good. Noise sounds bad." Can someone write up an article on my thoughts? TIA.

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    1. Re:Is This Science??? by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Amazingly enough, BBC News' website is not a scientific journal, and therefore is not the publisher of his scientific research.

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  10. Hearing by nycsubway · · Score: 1

    ... or they can crank up the volume and slowly lose their hearing because the sounds are so much louder since they are right next to the ear drum.

    1. Re:Hearing by thelasttemptation · · Score: 1

      100 dB in your ear or 100 dB from the sterio putting out 130 db from 10 foot away is the same damnage, or the jet putting out 150 db from 100 foot away. So no, it doesn't hurt that it's close to the ear...

    2. Re:Hearing by dave420 · · Score: 1

      but the sounds are so much quieter... don't you think they thought of that? :-P

  11. Capacity Units by UncleBiggims · · Score: 2, Funny

    So maybe manufacturers should start advertising in units of personal space instead of the rounded down GB.

    Are you Corn Fed?

  12. Which university again by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny


    The University of Stating the Bleedin' Obvious ?

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  13. Re:Just sounds to me by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most studies sole purpose is to validate the career of the person doing the study. Any useful results are incidental.

  14. escapism, what? by surreal-maitland · · Score: 2, Insightful
    the things people study, man. i don't need a degree in psychology to know that some psome people wear headphones to isolate themselves/appear busy/exercise control over the world. if only i could publish something equally asinine as a computer pscientist and get away with it.

    "programmers use variables to store, identify, and recover data. news at 11"

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    1. Re:escapism, what? by gobbo · · Score: 1

      No, you don't need a degree to study this, it is pretty obvious. But we haven't read the source material, have we? Just a news website article.

      What comes out of studies like this are things that are finer points, and lead to more significant conclusions. Eg.: the effect of personal music players on listening ability (as opposed to hearing, which any audiologist can tell you is obvious), the role of listening ability in a cultural setting, the role of listening ability in adaptability and overall health, the effect of various usage patterns of PLD's on our emotional state, etc.

      Studies like that CAN be empirical to a degree, and can result in engineering, marketing, health policy decisions, and overall trends, so they aren't insignificant. Maybe even more significant, than, say, the difference between gentoo and *bsd.

    2. Re:escapism, what? by surreal-maitland · · Score: 1
      Maybe even more significant, than, say, the difference between gentoo and *bsd.

      blasphemy! :)

      seriously, though, the idea that this sort of unsubstantiated blather can capture people's interest enough to justify a news article (even though the substantiated blather may be of value) really rather irks me. why read what you already know. of course i suppose comedy is the same way. people like to know the punchline. they just want you to say it half a second before they think it.

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    3. Re:escapism, what? by gobbo · · Score: 1

      True enough, the article is puff and glosses over any really useful detail... assuming, of course, that Bull's work is more sophisticated than indicated.

      Anyway, it's old news on top of obvious, the World Soundscape Project dealt with this decades ago when it wasn't so obvious.

  15. Why do I use my mp3 player? by DakotaK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because it keeps me amused in study hall. ;)
    Seriously, though...this shows how much we've advanced. 100 years ago, you had to go out of your way to learn an insturment (such as a fiddle) to have music at all. Now, people have an mp3 player filled with any music they want on a whim. People can be listening to their own sort of "theme song" when they're in a certain mood. If you're bored and can't just go away (like my study hall plight), you can just flip on a song that reminds you of something that's happened or you want to happen, and slip away. It's a nice thing to be able to do.

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    1. Re:Why do I use my mp3 player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People can be listening to their own sort of "theme song"...

      Depending on what time of the day you catch me, mine is either Monster Magnet - Powertrip or RJD - Man On The Silver Mountain

    2. Re:Why do I use my mp3 player? by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

      100 years ago, the phonograph had been around for a little over 25 years.

      100 years ago, you could still sing or hum or see a concert, or be with friends who were sorta musical.

    3. Re:Why do I use my mp3 player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People can be listening to their own sort of "theme song"...

      Ridin' on the bus,
      Ridin' on the bus,
      Sittin' next to bums,
      There's an open seat,
      Hope that isn't pee,

      I wish I had no bones!

    4. Re:Why do I use my mp3 player? by Nexx · · Score: 1

      though it was only in our past 30 years or so that we had portable canned music you could take with you while, e.g. riding a subway.

  16. original walkman by theLastPossibleName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wasn't the original walkman to shield the wearer from unwanted sound?

    I know I need to use my headphones at work to shield myself from the disturbing noises from the nearby cubicles. Pointy hair people blabbing about pointless things, people clipping finger nails, eating, etc.

    1. Re:original walkman by CrazyTalk · · Score: 4, Informative

      I remember when the walkman first came out (yes, I'm that old) around 1980 or so. The big thrill at the time was not that you could be shielded from outside sound, it was quite the opposite - unliked the big bulky headphones of the day, you could actually hear the outside world/carry on a conversation with someone AND listen to music at the same time. That and, of course, portability were some of the selling points for the "early adopters".

    2. Re:original walkman by dagnabit · · Score: 1

      Amen!

      WTF is it that people think it's ok to clip their nails in public? Whether in their cubicle at work, on an airplane, or (yes, it actually happened to me) at an adjoining table in a restaurant, not much spins me up faster... besides the annoying noise, if you're close enough to hear it, you're probably close enough to get a wayward chunk in your eye, food, etc. Blech!

    3. Re:original walkman by theLastPossibleName · · Score: 1, Funny

      *shields coffee with hand*

  17. Headphones are banned by scumbucket · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and so are personal stereos, where I work. Something about 'not being conductive to the work environment'. The problem is that there is so much racket from people around me talking on the phone, chatting, etc. that you NEED headphones (or something to block out the noise) sometimes to concentrate on the task at hand.

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    1. Re:Headphones are banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.. lots of people around me have habitual throat clearing problems and excessive snorting problems as well. Headphones go a long way to alleviate my aggravation with this. Any other techies care to complain about people who cough/sniff/clear their throat excessively?

    2. Re:Headphones are banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      earplugs?

    3. Re:Headphones are banned by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      damn, do they check that you wear clean underpants every morning? Who cares if you wear headphones if you are productive?

  18. Dude, people are not urban creatures by tjstork · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The whole reason humanity left africa and then spread out across the entire planet, is because most people would prefer to be left alone. We all want, for the most part, our own 100 acre plots of land.

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    1. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

      Hmm. That is a most interesting observation. Thank you.

    2. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by TGK · · Score: 3, Funny

      That, and the air conditioner had yet to be invented.

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    3. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yet we still want to be intimately connected to others somehow. the proliferation of things like friendster, livejournal, instant messaging have proven that.

      while i agree that i would like to own a 100 acre plot of land, it would be terribly lonely without someone to help me cultivate it, don't you think?

      or is it better to say, rather, that we would prefer to be left alone with people we like and people who are like us?

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    4. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rubbish, people are highly social animals. People who want to be left alone all the time are called misfits and have very low social status.

    5. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, people are... Most urban areas are centered around markets of some kind, and markets trace way the hell back to our leaving africa.
      Humanity moved out in search of more fertile land and more of it, not so we could get our 100 acres and be left alone, but so we could get 100 acres, grow some crops, and trade with other people.
      And moderators saying the parent is insightful might want to climb out of their shacks, shave their beards, pull the hood down, take off those sunglass and take a look at how the world has been operating for centuries.

    6. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by Imperator · · Score: 1

      This is no more true than saying "everyone likes to socialize all the time". Different people have different preferences, and they're not all at the extremes either. People who understand this are much easier to work with and make better leaders.

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    7. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by torpor · · Score: 1

      I dunno about that.

      I've seen some pretty massive cities on this planet, in some vast open empty spaces ... Seems to me that mankind is a social creature on the order of fish, or sheep. It most definitely propagates itself in flocks which stick together. It even seems that its reproductive stage is dependent on flocking behaviour ... ;)

      Granted though, that a lot of people want to be left alone. We'd be surprised just how lonely most of the population actually is, I think, if we were able to ask them ...

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    8. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by GauteL · · Score: 1

      And that is why we gathered up in huge cities with millions of people around us ensuring that we at most can have a few square meters of land.

    9. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by asilidae · · Score: 0

      The fact that almost every single major city in the world is in continuous growth, and more and more of the world is being urbanised, is somewhat of an counter to your claim.
      Alot of people likes the urban life. Thats why they dont move away from the city, even if they have the means to do so.

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    10. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Why should it matter what their social status is-- THEY'RE ALONE!!!!

      This was rated as "overrated," but is perfectly true: If you prefer to be by yourself, what surprise would come when people (that you don't talk to) don't consider you "socially important?" That's part of the whole point!

    11. Re:Dude, people are not urban creatures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "people who are like us"

      I would kill myself if I had to put up with someone like me for any length of time...

      But, maybe not many people are as nutso as myself.

      Besides, the voices are harder to hear with the music on.

  19. ..users manage space, time.. by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    a "tool whereby users manage space, time and the boundaries around the self."

    I thought that was what my Tardis was for.

    1. Re:..users manage space, time.. by orion67 · · Score: 0

      I don't feel Tardis...

    2. Re:..users manage space, time.. by torpor · · Score: 1

      no, your tardis is for playing music, and if you haven't heard any its because its broken.

      give it to me and i'll give you my ipod ...

      i'm good at fixing tardises.

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    3. Re:..users manage space, time.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > i'm good at fixing tardises.

      You should be a special-ed teacher then!

      (posted AC since the joke is in EXTREMELY poor taste)

  20. Music while cycling by whereiswaldo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In some (or many?) places it is illegal to ride a bicycle with earphones on. Is there a safe and legal alternative besides fixating an open air personal stereo to your handlebars? I'd love to listen to music while I cycle.

    1. Re:Music while cycling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Presumably the reason for this law is so that you can hear car horns, sirens & other audible warnings. (Don't give me the old argument about deaf people riding bikes/driving/whatever. They are USED to depending only on visual cues - hearing people aren't.) Therefore, try using only a single earbud. You won't get the deluxe stereo sound that you might prefer, but you can hear your music AND the sirens, etc.

    2. Re:Music while cycling by jbensley · · Score: 1

      Could you not just wear a pair of headphones around your neck, as opposed to on your head, and just turn up the volume such that you could hear it? I figure the main reason that it's illegal is because you need to be able to hear the traffic around you to be safe on a bike. If the headphones were around your neck, you could still hear the music and also the surrounding environment.

    3. Re:Music while cycling by Skater · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sing. That's what I did when I cycled. :)

      --RJ

    4. Re:Music while cycling by emilymildew · · Score: 1

      Depends on which state. Google for your state's website; should find some bicycling information there.

      (There have been studies, I vaguely remember, about that and it seems that as long as you don't have noise-cancelling phones, you should be able to hear around you. Also, be alert and look around a lot.)

    5. Re:Music while cycling by chialea · · Score: 1

      This is illegal in many locales (such as PA, but not NY). Check before you do it...

      Lea

  21. Headphones rocks, but... by Lord+Graga · · Score: 5, Informative

    I got tinitus (constant ringing for my ears) from too much heavy metal with headphones. So, be warned, it's not really worth it when you are home (I'm talking about people who use headphones in front of the computer).

    1. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I concur with the above reply. Please, please, if you are a young person who likes loud music, I beg you to be careful with your ears, and not make the mistakes that so many of my generation made. Maybe you think that you'll never, ever be in your thirties or forties and wishing that the ringing in your ears would go away and that you could hear again, but if you're blasting music into your ears, you will be. Doesn't matter if it's through headphones or that crazy car stereo that goes thump thump thump and scares people, the damage you do to your ears is permanent, and spending the second half of your adult life having to ask everyone to speak up and repeat themselves because of hearing loss suck-diddly-ucks.

      Please believe me, kids, you will be thirty years old one day, and how well you are able to hear at that time depends very much on how well you treat your delicate, sensitive ears today.

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    2. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by junkymailbox · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's why I use professional earphones that are isolated. Some rate at -20 to -30db. http://www.shure.com. I can hear my own heartbeat when i put these on and I cant hear anything else. Instead of turning the music up and damaging my ear I can block everyone out and enjoy music at lower decibels.

    3. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by ivrcti · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Any suggestions on a pair of affordable headphones that block out background noise?

    4. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by general_re · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but I have to crank the music - it's the only thing that drowns out that goddamn ringing in my ears....

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    5. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by junkymailbox · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can try sony ex 51 or sony ex 71. (Sony MDREX71SL) The 71s are with softer / more comfortable seal but essentially the same. Head Fi or Ipod Lounge for more info. You can buy them at some apple stores or amazon.com or buy.com

    6. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Radius9 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I DJ as well as tend to work in noisy cubicle environments during the day, and I swear by the Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-7509 headphones. The MDR-7506 is a bit cheaper price-wise and more compact than the 7509s, but both do an excellent job of blocking out noise as well as having excellent audio quality. You won't find these headphones at a regular Best Buy, etc., I always have to go to Guitar Center to buy them, and even then they are stored in back and aren't usually out on display. They'll run you about $100 for a pair of 7506s, a bit more for the 7509s.

    7. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've heard nothing but good words for Koss' "The Plug" earphones. They're set into those squidgy foam ear-plugs used by so many professionals in loud environments so have excellent blocking ability.

      They're also surprisingly cheap. (Approx $50(US) equivalent, IIRC.)

      Word of warning with these and all well-sealed earphones: the relatively small volume of air increases efficiency by a huge amount, particularly with an in-the-ear-canal pair. When using these, start with the volume *very low* and turn up *slowly*.

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    8. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Uncle Leo: Will someone answer that damn phone?!

    9. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Nimey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Me, I'm going to invest in hearing-aid companies so that when all the dumbass kids with obnoxious thumpy car stereos go deaf, I can profit.

      Revenge is a dish best served cold.

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    10. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Patik · · Score: 1

      That's why I got a pair of Sony MDREX71SL in-ear headphones. The pliable rubber outside of the phone conforms to the shape of my ear, effectively blocking out voices, car noise, etc. I can hear the subtleties of the music and keep it at a much lower volume.

    11. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      but they sound like shit, and stuff shoved into your ear feels terrible after a short amount of time.

      granted, i care how things sound. most people don't, not really. if it's not going to sound good and feel good, i don't want to listen to it at all. the disappointment isn't worth it.

    12. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by kc0dxh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just stick one of these to your forehead. I imagine this can be done with *very* low decibels.

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    13. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It is a true epidemic. In Sweden, 10 per cent of the population has tinitus. That's a scary number. I agree with the parent post, it's no fun going half your life wishing that the ringing will stop--belive me, it's even less fun doing this since you're 18. Remember the thread on Chernobyl where people said it was eerily quiet in those abandoned cities? That didn't really get to me since my internal noise floor is so high. It doesn't have to be very quiet until the ringing is enough to get me crazy. So unless you want to go through your life unable to enjoy quietness, constantly afraid of loud sounds (further damage happens more easily) and often trouble sleeping--be careful with that volume.

    14. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by CracktownHts · · Score: 1
      I don't know if I'd call them professional, but my Etymotic ER-6's are great in that regard. For a 35 minute subway commute or an 18 hour plane trip, they block out enough ambient noise to keep the volume low and my eardrums intact. I sometimes even use them as earplugs when I'm not listening to music, although they have the slight disadvantage of being rather hard to spot in my ears, meaning it takes longer for panhandlers to figure out why I'm ignoring them.

      Other drawbacks include hearing your bones grinding together while walking, and having to replace the foam buds every so often.

    15. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by ManxStef · · Score: 1

      It's worth pointing out that the leading cause of hearing loss and tinnitus is indeed in-ear headphones, as typically these pump a lot more energy directly into the ear canals than your typical on-ear cans (though these can still do damage obviously). You should *always* turn the volume down, press play, then turn up to a comfortable level - if you can still hear external noise and find it distracting then buy better headphones! The Sony MDR in-canals, as others have mentioned, are a pretty good, yet economical option (around USD$30-40)and also come in white for the iPod fashion conscious). Higher end are the Etymolics and Shures - the E3C in particular is perfect for iPods and can be had for around USD$180 or less. While this may seem like a lot of money, you get what you pay for and these are seriously good in-canal 'phones with superb noise rejection. Consider this: if you listen to a hour of music with them every day they'll work out at around 50 cents per day for a year... not much at all for the quality you get. Hell, if you're rich you can even get custom moulds of your ears taken and plug 'em into your Shures, or get a pair of Ultimate Ears, mmmmmhhh.

      As for car stereos, well I'd say you're more likely to get permanent damage from clubs/venues/concerts but the theory's the same. You know when you walk out of the place and your ears are ringing, then they're still ringing when you wake up the next morning? That's *permanent* hearing damage in action and you should most definitely heed the warning signs (as the parent posts both stress). Ear defenders such as the cheap roll-in-your-fingers foam type can be found in most chemists/pharmacies/home depots, provide excellent noise reduction and are remarkably cheap (around USD$3 for several pairs): I'd recommend carrying a pair with you in you record bag or whatever, just in case. Seriously, these'll at the very least save your top-end hearing in later life, or in more extreme cases save you from the constant life-sapping annoyance of that permanent ringing in your ears.

    16. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1

      I received a new flash mp3 player and I bought a set of the MDR-EX71SL's to go with to replace my aging pair of 'buds.

      I must admit, they're absolutely great at blocking out external sound, meaning lower volume's needed, and they're pretty comfortable to boot.

      They stay on nicely too, given that they sit that bit deeper in the ear, far better than the freebie pair of clip-behind-the-ear I got with the player.

      The very short lead, but with included long extension lead is a little annoying, as I rarely have the player that close to my ears, but I can see it being useful if you prefer to have the player in your breast pocket rather than at your hip, or if you're using it with a remote.

      If you're after a pair in the UK, I got mine at curry's, but they're a fair bit cheaper on amazon...

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    17. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by betelgeuse-4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Maturity is achieved when you realise the volume control goes down as well as up." - Someone whose name I forget.

    18. Re:Headphones rocks, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHAAAAAT?? I Can't Hear you, my ears are ringing, SPEAK UP!!!

  22. The only time people ask me things by needacoolnickname · · Score: 5, Interesting

    on the street is when I have my headphones on. They don't care. I can be in a crowd of people and they still come to me - they guy with the headphones on to ask directions, for a cigarette, for money.

    Don't these people know headphones mean Leave me alone!?

    1. Re:The only time people ask me things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feel bad it probably just means you have that type of charisma where people automatically feel comfortable around you. You probably are looking in their direction too or have big eyes that people notice. Try sunglasses. I never get asked anything when I wear sunglasses.

  23. A study I would like to see by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    would be an analysis of how ivory-tower eggheads over-analyze ever goddamned little thing in a futile attempt to make themselves seem relevant and get one paper closer to that all-important tenure.

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    1. Re:A study I would like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
      While some people might consider this a garbage study, he does bring forth lots of interesting points.

      For example, there was an earlier article in Wired where Dr. Bull did a small Q&A and something in particular stood out:
      lot of people use it to go to work, for commuting. I found that they use the same music on a regular basis. They will often play the same half-dozen tunes for three months, and each part of the journey has its own tune... It gives them control of the journey, the timing of the journey and the space they are moving through.
      I could never really put my finger on it, specifically the bizarre act of playing the same tracks in specific locations.

      Now I know.
    2. Re:A study I would like to see by sjb2016 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's interesting. I know that when I lived in Sweden and walked to the bus stop about a mile or so from my house, each song would start in a given space of 10 or 20 feet each time (if I started the tape from the beginning when I left my house). I had 15 tapes I listened to regularly and by the time my year was up, I knew almost exactly when each song would be playing on the walk. In fact, every time I hear Everclear's "Daughter of Mine" I think of a sharp turn in the path because that song always played then.

      As far as the grandparent goes, this study may not be of great use for your average Joe, but there is something to be said for pure research on a topic that interests you. Academia should not be about strictly practical things. While I make no promises, I bet some of the most important leaps forward in tech were discovered because a researcher was trying to do something unrelated but happened across something brilliant.

    3. Re:A study I would like to see by milkman_matt · · Score: 1

      In fact, every time I hear Everclear's "Daughter of Mine" I think of a sharp turn in the path because that song always played then.

      Well! Hope you aren't listening to that song in the car then! Sounds dangerous!

      -matt

    4. Re:A study I would like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >In fact, every time I hear Everclear's "Daughter of Mine" I think of a sharp turn in the path because that song always played then.

      Never heard that one, but I have heard "Father of Mine" by Everclear...

    5. Re:A study I would like to see by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ha. But it's not just ivory tower eggheads who've noticed this. Check out the following pair of songs on the subject:

      "In my headphones," Axis II by the Paranoid Social Club (also available in a live set on etree.org).

      "Walkman music," Always Will be by J-Live.

      Incidentally, I fit this profile to a T. I won't even go to the local mall without my ipod to assuade my agoraphobia. Listening to a walkman stops solicitors and panhandlers from bothering you as well. Shit, I have a pair of Sennheiser DJ phones that cancel about 32 dB of noise, and I sometimes wear them at work with no sound playing on them at all, just to help keep me concentrated.

      In short, by supressing one of my senses I also supress some of my natural uneasiness in uncertain social situations and that's helped make me more confident overall.

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    6. Re:A study I would like to see by Aetrix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you're transforming your desires for an iPod into anger and frustration directed at those people who do own an iPod.

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    7. Re:A study I would like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better would be a study on how anti-intellectual twits get pissy whenever they hear about someone studying something for which the twits see no immediate application.

    8. Re:A study I would like to see by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      You walked a mile every day to get to the bus? Wow...I'd take a car if I had to go anywhere that far. Good for you...keeps you exercised..but,what about crappy, cold, rainy days? Doesn't it get to be a bit of a drag?

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    9. Re:A study I would like to see by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Which is silly. If a person wants an iPod, they should just buy one. I mean, it's not out of the range of the common man...I sold a PDA, a video game system and an extra computer to get mine. I enjoy the iPod more than any of them.

      Just because you aren't willing to pay for something doesn't mean it's unfairly priced. Certainly the 2 million people who bought iPods think they're worth the money. Certainly Apple'd be stupid to cut the margin when they can barely cover the demand on the iPod Mini.

      There are people on slashdot willing shell out the same money for some piece of shit consumer device just so they can "hack it." Why should a machine that doesn't work be worth more than one that does?

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    10. Re:A study I would like to see by Kesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Personally, I walk a mile each way to get to the grocery store. And a mile or so to the bus stop. Yeah, in bad weather it's a bitch. But, I lack the income to get a car, and I never enjoyed driving anyway.

      And, you're right: it's good exercise. I have to be careful when hauling groceries home, but otherwise it's just a good way to keep your back and legs in shape. Rain and snow make for unpleasant days, as do heat waves. Still, overall it's not that bad, and can be quite pleasant sometimes. Keep in mind, you miss a lot of detail about what's on the side of the road when you're driving.

    11. Re:A study I would like to see by arlow · · Score: 1
      It just so happens that I have exactly the egghead bs that you're asking for...

      Here is the essay that I submitted for the Freshman Essay Evaluation at MIT, (an assessment of basic competence in writing.) The question was to respond to an essay by science-novelist Alan Lightman that urged readers to consider the negative impact of new technologies before accepting them into society.

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      To my great excitement, my parents surprised me with a portable music player called an iPod for my 18th birthday. As the novelty wore off, I realized that the iPod presented an unlikely ethical question: under what circumstances would I feel comfortable using it? Over the following weeks I embarked on a journey of experimentation and introspection through which I finally arrived at a set of personal guidelines for the use of my iPod.

      The first dilemma I faced regarding the iPod was whether to bring it to school. Since it was so expensive, I had strong reservations about bringing it into an environment where fragile items are frequently damaged and theft from book bags is not uncommon. However, I decided that if I were to allow fear of damage or theft to shape my use of the device, I would not be able to enjoy it during the majority of my day-to-day life. Thus I decided that I must face the risk and take the device to school. In retrospect I realize that this decision represents a moral judgment that I hold close to my heart: I refuse to buy an item that I am unable to enjoy for fear of ruining it. This applies not only to electronics but also to other things such as expensive cars and clothing.

      At school, I used my iPod to listen to music while walking between classes, only to encounter another, more subtle internal conflict: though continuously accompanied by my music, I found myself increasingly isolated from other people. I first noticed that when I was wearing my headphones, friends who would usually exchange greetings with me in the hall would now frequently walk past without a word. After some introspection, I realized that in the past I had regularly acted likewise towards my friends upon observing that they were wearing headphones. At that moment I was rocked by a frightening epiphany: through the use of my iPod at school, I was sending a strong message to the world that I was antisocial, apathetic, and wholly uninterested in interaction with others; rather I was indicating that I was engrossed in the private world of my music -- music that no one else could hear or enjoy. Furthermore, while talking with my friends, I would turn my music down but I would still find it difficult to concentrate on what they were saying or to come up with anything meaningful to say myself.

      In light of these realizations, I decided to stop using my iPod at school immediately. However my decision quickly raised further internal conflict from my ethic regarding the use of expensive items. Granted, I did not purchase the iPod; it was given to me as a gift. Nonetheless, on principle I do not like to own expensive things that I do not plan to use. Accordingly, in my spare time I considered uses for my then useless iPod.

      A few days later on a long drive, I discovered the perfect use for my iPod: playing music in my car. (This idea was particularly timely since I had become increasingly dissatisfied with music on the radio.) Therefore, I purchased a car adapter from Radio Shack and I now bring my iPod on all road trips for my enjoyment and for that of my passengers. Fortunately this new use lacks any of the negative social implications of wearing headphones at school.

      I benefited in many ways from the gift of the iPod; not only can I enjoy my music in a situation that I find acceptable, but I also learned valuable lessons about interacting with people in a world of distracting technology. My observations about the social implications of my iPod hold true when generalized to most new distracting technologies. At first there is a period when people experiment to discover what situations are app

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    12. Re:A study I would like to see by s0l0m0n · · Score: 1

      You get wet. Then, you dry off. No worse than dealing with the rest of the idiots who drive.

      It's that simple.

    13. Re:A study I would like to see by s0l0m0n · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Quoth the parent:

      [i]In short, by supressing one of my senses I also supress some of my natural uneasiness in uncertain social situations and that's helped make me more confident overall.[/i]

      I can't do that. I, too, have a bit of discomfort in social situations, specifically when out in the general public.

      I find that having headphones on decreases my situational awareness. I grew up in a shitty neighborhood where people sometimes wanted to kick the crap out of me. On one occassion, I got my ass beat because I wasn't tuned into what was going on around me. I didn't catch the clues, and I paid for it.

      Even ten years later, even after kicking the crap out of people who messed with me in the past, even knowing that I live in a much nicer place now, I still can't feel comforatble wearing headphones in public.

    14. Re:A study I would like to see by instarx · · Score: 1

      Just because you have no interest in the world around you does not mean the rest of us don't. Frankly, I find it very interesting that people use earphones (and newspapers and books, etc) for purposes other than their designed-for purpose. That fact that humans can use things like earphones as props to accomplish an entirely different, unrelated and non-obvious goal such as personal safety strikes me as useful knowledge.

      Some people just coast along in life seeing only the obvious, and others look for subtleties and interactions that make life more interesting. Clearly you are of the former type.

    15. Re:A study I would like to see by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the late reply...interesting. Do you have some kind of cart for groceries? I buy about $100-$150 worth each weekend...and can't figure how I'd get it all back home on foot...

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    16. Re:A study I would like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Car? Oh, come on, it was uphill BOTH ways! There's no way a car would do.

    17. Re:A study I would like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In short, by supressing one of my senses I also supress some of my natural uneasiness in uncertain social situations and that's helped make me more confident overall.

      Unless you 'grow out of it', don't fool yourself. It's just a safety blanket, you're not that much more confident, only feel like it.

    18. Re:A study I would like to see by Kesh · · Score: 1

      No problem. Nah, I usually only buy $20-$30 per trip, unless I can hitch a ride with a friend. Walking, that's about all I can carry. I usually make multiple trips per week, however, instead of one big one.

  24. The space between your ears by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 0
    So the space between your ears can be safely called:

    The Space-Time Continuum

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  25. Car stereos by tr0llb4rt0 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now if only we could force all in car stereo systems to be headphone only.

    No more will I be woken at 6am by jonny patel parking his Ford Escort outside my house playing bangra at volume 11.

    btw www.advancedmp3players.co.uk has some extremely sexy personal space management kit.

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    1. Re:Car stereos by dave420 · · Score: 1

      nazi.

    2. Re:Car stereos by tr0llb4rt0 · · Score: 1

      Sticks and stones :-P

      Just send me your address and I'll ask him to park there instead.

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  26. What I'm left wondering... by jamonterrell · · Score: 2, Funny

    is, do these same findings apply to those of us who walk around with a very large, heavy boombox on one shoulder? I would think that it should apply more since we're not only reclaiming our own space, but also the space of all of those around us...

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  27. Do not disturb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe we need a wearable version of those hotel 'do not disturb' signs. It would fit around your neck and display your request that you be left alone on your chest for all to see. It would also be reversible so you can let everyone know when you want your bed linens changed.

    1. Re:Do not disturb by The+I+Shing · · Score: 1

      That reminds me of that Bill Engvall routine called, "Here's your sign," about stupid people needing to wear signs that read "I'm stupid" so that other people will be able to accomodate them.

      In more direct reply to the above post, my g/f needs a 'do not disturb' sign to wear. Something about her makes people think that she's eager to be spoken to. The fact is she really wants to be left alone, like many of us.

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    2. Re:Do not disturb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've just been reading some of these posts as I stumbled upon this forum accidentally, what a load of sad wasters there are here - most of you need to get a life.... Go and live on a deserted island and you won't need to hang signs around your neck - you are obviously not suited for communication with other humans.... Freaks!

  28. Completed Dr. Bull's survey this weekend by easter1916 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read about this research last week and found it interesting -- so I emailed the good doctor and offered to participate. It took about 45 minutes to complete the survey that he sent, and the questions posed were, IMHO, very insightful. It made me realize just how much this simple device, the iPod, has changed how I listen to music and how I interact with the general public.

  29. Headphones are useful by exspecto · · Score: 1, Funny

    007's "The Living Daylights" showed us that you can also use headphones to strangle people. With a side bonus of looking cool while you do it.

  30. Reacting to your environment by filekutter · · Score: 1

    I never felt comfortable wearing phones with music playing since to do so removes one of the most important means of gathering information about your environment. I grew up in ST Louis Mo, a place that in the 60's was VERY dangerous for guys (or 14 yr olds like me) with long hair, and then 20 years in the Lower East Side in NYC. The idea of dampening the input of sound as a 'shield' is silly. "Oh no! The headphone-forcefield!!! I can't break through it!" Gimme a break, you're just scared to say "NO" to someone or relate to people who are 'different' from you and hope that music will protect you from the terrible world around you (which you obviously DON"T want to touch).

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    1. Re:Reacting to your environment by Nexx · · Score: 1

      As part of my job, I find myself travelling a lot, and I find my headphones not only helps me say "no" to unwanted attention, but also helps me shut out unwanted -- and fatiguing -- noise from my environment as I travel (afterall, food processors and headphones are both merely tools to *help* me achieve my goals). I would much rather have a relaxed focus on music than have my mind wander aimlessly, helping me stay sharper once I'm at my destination. So in my case, my headphones aren't about shutting off social interaction, but shutting off nonsocial and nonhuman elements of my environment.

  31. They not anti-social, they're by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    a way to separate all the ungodly noise in the "standard" stupid cube-ville environments where employees are expected to produce 60+ hours worth of creative productivity a week, while in an environment that can sometimes be as loud as a factory floor.

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  32. the fabric by sstory · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't know iPods could manage Space-Time. I guess that deserves the higher price.

    1. Re:the fabric by Imperator · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and the mini-iPods manage space-time but in a smaller area.

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    2. Re:the fabric by camperslo · · Score: 1

      Investing in an iPod buys you a piece of Steve Job's reality distortion field!

  33. My iPod is a little universe of its own. by torpor · · Score: 1


    There are wars, peace, prosperity, population, mad nature, weather, songs and humanity, and its all on my iPod. It is its own entire little universe, and whenver I press Play I get to experience it all, on my own, by myself, in a way which nobody else can. (Like real life...)

    I can change it every few months, as well. iPod_010104.dmg is a 5gig file among many others ...

    Without personal music, I most definitely would've gone crazy by now. ;)

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  34. Pointing out the bleedin' obvious... by omarin · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...hmmm, I think the article points out the bleedin' obvious... I use my walkman as "personal space" AND "anti-freak" protection... I use public transportation LOTS, and for some reason I am a freak-magnet even though my personal "freak level" is pretty near zero: I have been acosted by people asking for money/men offering heroin and asking for sex/women with putrid teeth putting the moves on me in very bad Spanish/men or women that ramble on about their sad lives/etc...

    (I DON'T know why, but these people find me on any public transport! Do I have a friggin' stamp on my forehead stating "freaks welcome"???)

    Using my walkman (or even wearing headphones with the walkman turned off) helps me cast an "anti-freak" personal wall...

    ...hmm... sounds like a new Angband spell! ;-)

    I bet you the next article by the same author will be: "Water: It's wet" , sheesh!

  35. Headphones by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

    So what about people who never wear head phones, nor have any desire to?

    I think I never wear them because I don't like not knowing what's going on around me.

  36. Headphones and a cup of coffee by lutefish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I do find headphones tend to keep most of the riff-raff at bay. Similarly, I learned in college that in order to walk through the main 'square' of campus, it was advisable to be carrying things in both hands in order to avoid being flier-ed to death by eager student groups. Headphones, a cup of coffee, and a bag, along with that glazed-over 'I'm not here right now' look tend to work and keep the tree-killers at a loss, waving their fistfulls of fliers helplessly.

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    1. Re:Headphones and a cup of coffee by Elusive_Cure · · Score: 1

      I wish i had mod points mate to mod you two times + insightful. That's what i do everyday at the uni, and believe me it's far more successful rather than beeing stopped every 5 meters to be handed a cheap ass Bhanghra-Party Flier, or be constantly harrassed by a lame R n'B brotha who insists on giving you a pack of flyers for the upcoming "Hot and Sexy" party at a lame Indian whorehouse (club) where the possibilities of spotting a white person in there are less than finding little green people fiddling around Spirit and Opportunity. My mp3 player at full blast playing Heavy Metal tunes, a folder of everyday's notes, a cup of coffee and the "F**k off, i'm not interested" look is all i need to keep these "monsters" away.

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  37. Try being dyslexic! by Wacky_Wookie · · Score: 1

    I use music as a way to focus my attention on the task at hand. Music seems to help me by gving my brain a timeing signal that I seem to lack.

    I was given special permisson to listne to music in class 'cus my teachers had noticed that I was 10 time more productive when i had something to listen too.

  38. 'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respect by GreenEggsAndHam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had this argument only this morning with a colleague. He shouts across the office to another colleague and has ongoing conversations with the other chap at the top of his voice.

    When I asked him if he could have that conversation over IM he told me to stick my fingers in my ears or to listen to music.

    The problem is that I refuse to listen to music *because* that inconsiderate prick has the manners of a five year old.

    I listen to music when I know I'll be able to appreciate it fully, not as a means of protection. In the best of cases, I'm unable to concentrate on work when I have music playing : I love my tunes so much that I generally need to be able to dive into them fully. Impossible to concentrate on work when I have some lush tunes in my ears.

    I guess it's really just my problem seeing how all the other people here at work are OK with wearing earphones all day in order to keep the twit's shrill nasal voice our of their heads.

    Bummer.

  39. I do it out of courtesy by ro_coyote · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I really don't mind if people stand by and overhear what I am listening to if they're really that interested in my tastes, but I know that not everyone will want to listen to my own music (or "noise"). I know I'm not comfortable at all about listening to someone else's music thumping through my head unwillingly, whether in public or at home, as I find it not only distracting to my work but also very counterproductive when I'm trying to take a break from a very long day... sort of a "psychological rape" perhaps, after being forced to listen to someone else's thumping bass for hours upon hours in my very own home.

    I just don't want to add to the mess. I don't like it when I have to deal with it, and I don't want to make anyone else feel miserable either.

  40. Dude, yes they are by burgburgburg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While humanity has been spreading out to new places ever since Africa, everywhere they go, a significant number of them tend to then congregate in towns/villages/cities/mega-cities. Now, rather then flee into the wilderness again in reaction to the stressors of this (which is really difficult nowadays), people control their personal space with headphones.

  41. The problem with reality? It lacks a backing track by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Congratulations, Dr Bull. Your 'research' delineates your name.

  42. bloody new age claptrap by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1, Troll

    so, were's the scientifical evidence?

    I'm so bloody tired of bleeding heart educational elite that consider social sciences real science. They aren't. Can you consuct economy studies in a controlled environment? No? Well then, it's not a science. Can you conduct natural response studies on humans? No? Well then, it's not science.

    It might be a discipline, but stop being a fool and passing your limited study off as a real science for the sake of funding and/or acceptance. It's dastardly and insulting.

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    1. Re:bloody new age claptrap by Nexx · · Score: 1

      So you're saying you cannot have psychological experimentations with both experimental and control groups while giving one and not the other a certain stimuli and looking at the results? Because like it or not, that is how a large portion of social sciences work too; it's just a matter of size of your groups and the type of stimuli (whether behaviorlogical, psychological, or economic) the researcher applies.

      Or are you saying that it is possible to reliably and experimentally recreate conditions approaching fractions of nanoseconds after the Big Bang?

  43. Is this supposed to be new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Walking around in public with headphones isn't something new.

    People were doing this twenty years ago with a Sony Walkman casette tape player. It was considered rude back then and it was going to make you go deaf back then. Nothing has changed except that it's coming from a tiny digital memory chip instead of a casette tape.

    1. Re:Is this supposed to be new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking exactly the same.. but I guess this is ipod-mania for you.

      It's bad enough that the media seems to think that the ipod is the only mp3 player worth mentioning, but now it's as if Apple invented portable music altogether!

      Glad to see the TV-tax that I pay is going towards Apple's marketing engine :/

  44. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by JackCroww · · Score: 0

    You should buy one of these (http://preparedness.com/ecoblasrecai.html) and whenever he starts shouting across the room, fire it off. If he complains, tell him to stick his fingers in his ears or listen to music.

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  45. Blurb recently introduced by my place of work by Un0r1g1nal · · Score: 1
    Concerning the use of Headphones
    The main issue is that staff/students may not be particularly aware of any immediate hazards in their working area either arising from their own work or that of colleagues. The concern is that even if warnings were given verbally in the event of any incident they may be unable to respond because the volume of the music system would prevent such warnings being heard. The first is that if the fire alarm system was to operate someone wearing headphones may either not hear the alarm or may take some time before realising that an alarm was operating. This then has implications for their safe evacuation from the building.

    Secondly, headphone wearers may not be aware of others coming into their area and therefore may not be immediately aware of intruders who may pose a risk to their personal safety.

    Because of this, the University Health and Safety Committee advise that Heads of Schools should not permit staff and students to use headphones for recreational purposes because it might jeopardise their personal safety.
    not hear a fire alarm?? please .. those things are bloody loud. Obviously someone who was very very bored in admin.
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  46. A headphone day by suso · · Score: 3, Funny

    One of my coworkers once said:

    It's going to be a headphone day.

    What he meant by that is that he needed to block out all the annoying noise coming out of other people's mouths and so on as they came back and asked questions. I do that sometimes too.

  47. I don't use headphones very often by crazyprogrammer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot of the employees where I work are Mexican and most of them have cd players/radios and listen to spanish music all day. Most of the American workers have cd players/radios to listen to music in english. What ends up happening everyday is someone turns the volume up on their radio a little bit and a chain reaction starts. By the end of the day everyone has to yell to talk to the person next to them.

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    1. Re:I don't use headphones very often by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just curious.. what kind of a business do you work at?

    2. Re:I don't use headphones very often by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we make custom wire harnesses for places like Envipco, Snorkel USA, Master Pictching Machine, and more. It gets pretty noisy here in the middle of the day(wire cutting machines, terminal machines, and braiding machines running) and headphones would get in the way for most of the work here. A lot of the wire harnesses are 10' and there are a few that are up to 60'. When you have to walk from one end of a table to the other do work on a wire harness it's easier not to use headphones.

      I work in the shipping dept and there is still a lot of noise here. The air compressor is in the shipping area and runs a couple minutes every hour or so and the wire cutting machines(we have 2 ShinMaywa and 3 Eubanks machines) are just outside the door(they are loud).

      A few people have headphones but they only use them if they are assembling something where they can sit in the same place for a while.

  48. well, there's that... by caino59 · · Score: 1

    and beans have been around for even longer.

    i'm sure we all know that old adage...

    beans, beans, the magical fruit...

  49. Types of music for mood: survey by B5_geek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was just thinking about this type of habit this morning.

    What genres of music do you listen to that correspond to your activities?

    This is how I have my playlists setup:

    gaming: Dance-hip hop-techno
    coding: classical
    browsing: top40 (70's, 80's & 90's)
    General computer activities: all of the above

    How do your activities influence what you want to listen to?

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    1. Re:Types of music for mood: survey by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      gaming
      coding
      browsing
      general computer activities
      -heavy metal and hard rock, applies to all of the above 8)

    2. Re:Types of music for mood: survey by smcv · · Score: 1

      I use a modified version of mserv, a weighted-random online jukebox, with several separate userIDs; when away from the computer with my music on it, I use a MP3 CD player with some loosely themed CD-RWs.

      According mserv's top 20 lists (of songs most likely to be played), it looks like I've biased the "personalities" as follows:

      work: top-40-ish rock, trip-hop

      games: metal, punk, heavier end of rock, techno

      code (concentrated coding/deep hack mode): mostly 90s trance, some (particularly electronic) rock

      smcv (general all-purpose setup): any of the above

    3. Re:Types of music for mood: survey by bad+enema · · Score: 1

      gaming: Top 40 (90's, 2000's)
      coding: Nothing (can't concentrate otherwise)
      Browsing: Top 40 (90's, 2000's)
      General computer activities: Top 40 (90's 2000's)

      Sorry for the boring answers.

    4. Re:Types of music for mood: survey by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      all: Dance/techno/house/metal/classical Note, for long coding sessions I prefer extended (hour-long or longer) mixes such as Radio1's Essential Mix. That gives me enough time to tune it out / get lost in the flow without getting side-tracked by whatever came up on the random play every few minutes.

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  50. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by vrai · · Score: 1
    The solution is not to back down when faced with those kind of people. Next time he starts shouting across the room - ask him to shut the fuck up. As loudly as possible.

    Repeat until he gets the message, or you get fired. In the event of the latter you'll have a very good case for constructive dismissal.

  51. Headphones in multiple family dwellings by Like2Byte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I recently purchased a set of quality headphones to shield my music from my neighbors - who live a thin wall of drywall away. Whenever anyone watches a movie at night or listens to their favorite songs I can hear it very well - the bass especially so.

    I've complained a number of times and now the level has been brought in to check but every now and then I hear them.

    I want to listen to my music, too. Sometimes loudly. But how do I listen to my music my way without being hypocritical and by being respectful to my neighbor?

    My Solution: Headphones. It was an apiphany to me. While I was in the US Navy onboard a submarine, whether at sea or in the barracks, we all had headphones and peaceful bliss listening to our music without someone threatening to float test your stereo equipment or CD player.

    For those of you who live in a condo, like I do, for the sake of your neighbors and yourself, buy a set of headphones. It's a whole lot easier than explaining to the Condo Association why noise complaints are being issues against you - and in my association, the bylaws are written such that noise complaints can get your sorry butt tossed out into the street. Permenently!

  52. white noise is less distracting by throwaway18 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I sometimes use headphones as a concentration aid when working at a computer. I found listening to music distracing so I tried listen to white noise for a while. I used a radio tuned to an empty VHF frequency, ocasionally I'd hear voices drifting in from hundreds of miles away and end up playing ham radio instead of working.

    I'v now assembled a playlist of no-vocals no-beats ambient music. Classical is ok but all the well known tracks remind of of adverts.

    1. Re:white noise is less distracting by Loosewire · · Score: 1

      you have recorded whitenoise? vcare to send me some please? :-)

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  53. Um, kinda stating the obvious isn't it? by Second_Derivative · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oftentimes I wear headphones that don't even have a player connected to them so I can actually walk more than 20 metres without some bum or charity person or club promoter hassling me.

    I lived pretty much in the sticks before I came to uni. Boring it may have been but at least people leave you the hell alone. And to all the afformentioned: Look, I don't give a crap about what you think I should pay attention to at the moment. I am currently trying to get from A to B and you're in my way. You don't have some sort of fucking entitlement to my time, and at times I'm tempted to wear a "I don't give a fuck so piss off" t-shirt to get the point across.

    But of course that wouldn't be very polite, would it.

  54. Or perhaps... by fataugie · · Score: 1

    People wear headphones to give the voices in their heads some company.

    I personally wear them to drown out the sounds of my PHB.

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  55. No seriously? by Unique2 · · Score: 1

    You want me to take a guy called Dr. Bull seriously?

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  56. I 3 slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The site where geeks can live inside a hermetically sealed echo-chamber of geekness where any attempt to understand the world that is not thoroughly based on geekness can be denigrated, and shows of ignorance actually win you plaudits and approval.

  57. ppl with headphones by unk1911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    personally i think people that wear headphones are inconsiderate to their fellow humans. back in high school there were kids that would wear headphones when talking to the teacher in class, which is the ultimate f-u statement if there ever was one. by wearing headphones you are telling me that you don't care to interact with me, and that's fine by me. but if you try to initiate a conversation with me i am just not going to talk to you. you are also tuning out the reality around you and indirectly making a statement that it is of lesser importantance. if you value your inner space so much perhaps you should consider moving to a sub-urban setting?

    1. Re:ppl with headphones by shish · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Respect your teachers! Bring a ghetto-blaster into class and use that!

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  58. sunglasses are safer insulation by obtuse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the rare occasion I needed to go to Tijuana, I found that sunglasses were indispensable. Not so much for protecting my glazzies (important because UV is very destructive) but for controlling social interaction. I would never walk around that city with headphones on, but sunglasses are a neccessity.

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  59. ah, vent time by dwpro · · Score: 1

    I used to work in a library where I was asked to shelve carts upon carts of books for hours on end. The all knowing president of the library disallowed us to wear headphones on the job because "customers"(fellow students) would be less likely to ask us questions when we were wearing headphones. Though he was right about students being less likely to ask us questions, morale plummetted because shelving books just sucks, it requires just enough mental energy that you can think about how much the job sucks but not daydream. Now I have a much better job at the helpdesk *screams*

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  60. I find big speakers manage space better. by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 1

    Big 40 watt speakers, some Motorhead playing with the volume at 11 on the boombox gives me loads of space on the tube and on busses. Doesn't half go through a shit load of batteries though.

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  61. behind or between? by migloo · · Score: 1

    I thought psychology was BETWEEN headphones, (not behind)

  62. another simular article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pag ename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1 078097705362&call_pageid=970599109774&col=Columnis t1022130995407

  63. Re:anti-social behaviors...Medicinal? by dhotoi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Benifits of isolated music? I am a paramedic on the overnight shift and code during the day when my shift is over, Sometimes to resist the urge of falling asleep, the earbuds and the tunes help me focus and stay awake. But the real trick for me is a playlist of songs by chick vocalist. The tone of the female vocals seem a little more pleasant than male vocals.

  64. Doesn't ward off the panhandlers... by bobdinkel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I now wear headphone when I walk home from work. And I'm usually not listening to music. I've discovered it's the only way to get past the numerous panhandlers I pass on the way home.
    It doesn't stop them from asking for money or cigarettes. But when I'm wearing headphones, they don't scream at me for ignoring them. I've tried saying "sorry," or "not today," or something else, but they still scream at me if I don't give them money. Just ignoring them pisses them off even more. The headphones work like a charm.

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  65. you ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'll phone your head.

  66. 8th Ave New York City by Ayandia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I absolutely refuse to walk to my office without headphones. Every morning I walk north from Penn Station NY down 8th ave. I only have a few blocks to go, but it's like a gauntlet of questionable social interactions. People furiously wave papers for barbershops and other crap in your way, "Change? Change?", and the nasty people who spend all day hanging around hitting on anything in heels.

    Add sunglass and headphones and the world is my music video. Not to mention I'm preserving my desire to have children some day by wearing headphones on the train.

    Then I spend all day listening to internet radio so I can focus on my work and not hear the loud office gossip over from the next area. We have an open office design where teams share a large square space, all facing outward to a shared desk. Good for teamwork, bad for concentration.

    I would get nothing done without headphones...and that only on the days I could bear to come to work.

    1. Re:8th Ave New York City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Not to mention I'm preserving my desire to have children some day by wearing headphones on the train.

      In order to do that, I'd imagine you'd also need a blindfold, a plug for your nose, and enough tequila to erase the memories you've had of society over the past decade or two.

      Good Luck!

    2. Re:8th Ave New York City by QuoteMstr · · Score: 1

      Hrm. That's interesting... I live downtown (3rd and 11th) and walk to class, near Washington Square Park, every day. I usually bring headphones, but it isn't a big deal if I don't. Someone accosts me, at most, about every two weeks, and those people are easy to ignore. Those people are usually charity representatives asking for money (particularly the Children International ones),
      but they're easy to ignore.

      Granted, I'm male, but I haven't heard any of my female friends harassed either. The worst case I know about is a friend being in an elevator in my building with two Mexican maintenence workers. They were making lewd comments about her in Spanish, and she understood, since she's learning the language. Nothing on the street.

      New York isn't nearly as chaotic as people make it out to be.

    3. Re:8th Ave New York City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      New York isn't nearly as chaotic as people make it out to be.

      Actually 8th avenue near Penn Station is the pits. Only a couple years ago (well into NY's supposed new 'clean' phase) when I was walking around there, I saw some young partly clothed teenage girl cracking out on the sidewalk with her goods on display, foaming at the mouth, in broad daylight on a weekday. Pedestrians just stepped around her like she wasn't even there.

      I used to work for a temp agency on 8th in the upper 30s and every visit was a freakfest (and I'm male). Try getting away from the NYU scene for once and you might be enlightened.

  67. I'm struck by the irony... by DeadVulcan · · Score: 1

    of the copious postings in which people are ranting, "this is not science!" "this is claptrap!" "obvious!" and by implication, "this is not worth discussing!"

    I'd respond, but I don't want to make fools of the ranters.

    Heh. Take that stick of irony and smoke it!

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  68. Connection with control by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yet we still want to be intimately connected to others somehow. the proliferation of things like friendster, livejournal, instant messaging have proven that.

    Even in the old days, people did not see each other all the time - once a week for church, or seeing people at the store.

    People do want connection - but connection that is controlled. Even IM you can shut down or choose to ignore. I would say intimately is an incrorect term - asynchronously is perhaps a more accurate way to define the kind of connection people want. connections that are instant to them, with inbound connections that can be controlled.

    Using music players in a setting with other people around is just a way of exerting some control over physical interactivity with others.

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  69. Nothing is better than a good playlist by Vandil+X · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Aye.

    Nothing is better than a good playlist to get lots of desk work done. Be that coding, writing, data entry, or grinding out AA points in EverQuest.

    Music just gets me "in the zone" so I can focus on the task at hand while at the same time giving coworkers and spouses a visual cue to not interrupt you.

    More than half of the documentation I've done for my company is a result of a few good playlists.

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  70. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by amyhughes · · Score: 1
    ...he told me to stick my fingers in my ears or to listen to music...I'm unable to concentrate on work when I have music playing : I love my tunes so much that I generally need to be able to dive into them fully. Impossible to concentrate on work...
    Obviously you aren't giving his suggestion sufficient consideration. Have you tried listening to music you don't like? I thought not. Be more considerate of your colleague.

    Amy

  71. Headphones = "don't talk to me." by Kent+Brewster · · Score: 1

    That's an easily verifiable bit of amateur anthropology. Go to any Gold's Gym or other health club overwhelmingly populated by guys and you'll see it in action: women with headphones on are working out right now, thanks very much, and do not want to be told for the umpteenth time that they have "nice abs."

    At work it's problematic: some people in cubes who must concentrate on coding need the option of personal music, but people whose job it is to support the people in cubes need to show that they're available from clear across the room. This is very tough to conceptualize among the support staff, who need to feel like they count as much as everybody else or there will be a bunch of very unhappy coders in the cubes.

    At home ... ick, don't get me started. Kids who show up for dinner or get in the car with the Walkman on are clearly communicating that they Do Not Wish To Be Parented Right Now, and that sends an extra-loud message of Please Parent Me Extra-Hard Right Now. :)

  72. Is Apple planting these stories? by Animats · · Score: 1
    I have a suspicion that Apple is planting these stories. They all mention Apple's iPod prominently, although personal audio players with headphones have been around for twenty years now.

    In fact, Dr. Bull's published papers are more Walkman-oriented:

    • Through the analysis of Walkman use I propose a re-evaluation of the significance of the auditory in everyday experience. I argue that the role of sound has been largely ignored in the literature on media and everyday life resulting in systematic distortions of the meanings attached to much everyday behaviour. Sound as opposed to vision becomes the site of investigation of everyday life in this article. In focusing thus, I draw upon a range of neglected texts in order to provide a dialectical account of auditory and technologically mediated experience that avoids reductive and dichotomous categories of explanation. I propose a new evaluation of the relational nature of auditory experience whereby users manage their cognition, interpersonal behaviour and social space. The Walkman is perceived as a tool whereby users manage space, time and the boundaries around the self.
    But nobody actually reads the Journal of New Media and Society. (Subscriptions are $809 per year.) Nor do they read his book "Sounding Out the City: Personal Stereos and the Management of Everyday Life" (Amazon sales rank: 613,313.)

    So why is the iPod being mentioned so prominently? Because Bull has articles in the New York Times and the Wired catalog. Both articles mention the iPod, but not the Walkman. Both periodicals run iPod ads.

    Any questions?

    1. Re:Is Apple planting these stories? by Kesh · · Score: 1

      Maybe because the iPod is the most easily recognizable, prolific music player on the market right now? Walkmans are dead, and you'd be hard-pressed to tell one manufacturer's CD player from another.

      The iPod, on the other hand, is easily recognized, well-known and arguably helped push the digital music arena ahead to where it is today.

      It would be like talking about how the modern car has impacted fuel consumption, and not discussing SUVs.

  73. I'm looking for investment opportunities by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 1

    I found I listened to more of "other people's" music as a result of walkman radios being played too loudly on the bus than all other sources of "external" music combined.

    Can someone suggest some ticker symbols of companies in the hearing aid business? This should be a growth industry in the next few decades.

  74. headphone info by Jafa · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Here's a thread on a big discussion on headphones:
    Headphone discussion

    J

  75. headphones on, with no music by Jafa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know some people, particularly some girls, that will wear headphones and just let them dangle in their pocket. Not attached to anything. As noticed, you treat people differently when it looks like they're engaged in something else, except studying. So to keep people from bothering them (much) while trying to study they'll fake the headphones.

    J

  76. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adverts, shop fascias...

    Speak English, ya limey moron!

  77. Dancing in the grocery store. by Aetrix · · Score: 1

    Does this still mean that I'm weird when I do the waltz down the aisles of the grocery store?

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  78. Get a grip by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

    There are social people.

    There are anti-social people.

    Stop trying to turn one group into the other. Instead associate yourself with those who share the same sentiments on communication and socialization that you do. Otherwise you're just going to be around a bunch of pissed off people who are annoyed by your constant attempts to engage them in your needy grabs for attention.

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  79. headphones are on, even when the music's not. by notchcode · · Score: 1
    haven't we all been wearing headphones in the office ever since computers came standard with CD-ROM drives?

    Heck, I'll even leave my headphones on when I'm not listening to music, if it will keep that bore from accounting from coming over to my desk to ask me some dumb question or offer up some insipid gossip.

    Sometimes I even bob my head to the "music", to reinforce the illusion.

    Don't tell me you've never done that before, either....

    I think what the articles in the BBC and the earlier one in the NY Times have been reporting on is just the more portable extension of the "go away, I'm ignoring you" persona of the office headphone-wearer.

    ;)

  80. Soundscape studies did this decades ago by gobbo · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since this is a rerun story, I'm going to repost myself from a few weeks back:

    Hildegard Westerkamp wrote about Walkmans and personal audio space as a key part of her 1988 thesis "Listening and Soundmaking-A Study of Music-as- Environment", but the World Soundscape Project generally had a pretty good analysis of this right from the beginning of the phenomenon.

    The composer R. Murray Shafer's concept of "schizophonia" became used to describe an effect of electroacoustic tech: essentially something you hear that happens in another place and time. Barry Truax's definitive book Acoustic Communication develops the whole idea further.

    The thing about PLD's is that they supplant the actual soundscape with a soundtrack, often a remedy to noise and stress but usually just fun. There may be a long-term chronic danger from extreme schizophonia, but I don't think it's been studied empirically. Soundscape studies is fringe, most of the work being done in the area is engineering and psych.

    Now I don't know that Bull has ignored soundscape studies in general, but it is the true home of sound nerds who move beyond the engineering and get into the social, psychophysics, and ecological aspects of sound, and the article should have mentioned it at least. If you're interested in the field at all, you need to check out the World Forum for Acoustic Ecology, where this stuff is hashed out on many levels.

  81. Bombarded by advertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the article: "We live in a visually dominated culture and suffer constant bombardment by visible messages.... Using headphones helps to keep the world at bay and reclaim some space."

    So, how long before advertisers clue in and start bombarding us with audio messages as well? It wouldn't be hard for advertisers to drown out our headphones, or at least be loud enough to prevent enjoyment of the music. (Of course you can always turn up the volume, but if you do that too much, you'll damage your hearing.)

  82. Dr. Bull by Merlin42 · · Score: 1

    I couldn't think of a more appropriate name for a "Lecturer in Media and Cultural Studies"

  83. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ummm... he is not the problem in this situation, sweetcheeks. The problem is the guy who is shouting across the room. HE is the one who should show more consideration for his colleague.

  84. Also helpful on airplanes... by sczimme · · Score: 1


    I picked up a pair of large over-the-ear type headphones for use while traveling on airplanes. When they are plugged in to the laptop I get the sound I want without [a lot of] external interruption. Even if they aren't plugged in, they do block some sound and keep the ambient noise down.

    I would also mention the non-verbal aspect: they work well for discouraging the Chatty Cathy next to me from starting a conversation.

    For those of you who need to decry this as "anti-social" or whatever, knock yourselves out; I simply am not always interested in a discussion.

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  85. How'd they get these interviews? by borg1238 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Through interviews with Walkman owners and now iPod buyers, he found that listening to music acts as a shield, aura or cocoon.

    These must have been difficult interviews to get:
    "Sir... uh... sir? Would you like to participate... sir? Can you hear me? Sir?!"

  86. Music players aren't the only form of this by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A very interesting study that dovetails with some thoughts I've had on the subject.

    I've seen similar "control of personal space" with cell phones (and not suprisingly here in Los Angeles) automobiles.

    All three offer a way to insulate yourself from your immediate surroundings, albeit in slightly different ways.

    A simple example of this is driving a car thru a neighborhood, rather than driving in a neighborhood. The car is an environment unto itself that allows one to pass through another physical space with a minimum of interaction.

    As an experiment, I've stopped driving my car in favor of public transportation. Granted, I listen to an iPod, as do many of my fellow riders, but even in this case, I am much less insulated. This is also the case when I walk to and from bus stops and rail stations.

    I am actually preferring this mode of transport, and have a renewed love of my city. This probably has much to do with the fact that I am experiencing it differently, interacting with my fellow Angelenos more (despite my iPod), and actually being in my environment, rather than being in my car. Previously, much of my Los Angeles experience was that of being stuck on the freeway, "interacting" with other cars (and sometimes their drivers), most of which were either going too slow or too fast. There are no roses on the freeway.

    I haven't owned a cell phone in several years, but I notice a similar phenomena. While one is talking on the phone, a large part of one's attention is placed on the person on the other end of the conversation. There is an overlap between one's presence in the real world and a sort of virtual telephone world. This is most noticeable with people using ear sets, and positively dangerous with people driving cars (especially SUVs, but that's another topic!).

    I once watched what I thought was a crazy person walking down the street, ranting and raving about hockey of all things. It was a bit puzzling, since he seemed to be dressed to nicely to be a crazy street person. When he came close enough, I saw that he was talking on a hands-free phone, and was totally oblivious of his surroundings. Other than the fact that he was on the phone, his behavior was completely that of a mentally deranged person hearing voices.

    Something of further interest that I haven't spent much time reflecting on is the passive aggressive nature of behavior I've observed in those that use these insulating technologies; especially obnoxious/oblivious drivers, loud cell phone talkers, and the now thankfully less common boom box wielders.

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  87. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by e40 · · Score: 1

    If you have speakers on the machine you work on, turn something on loud when he does this. He'll get the idea. Eventually. Probably. OK, he sounds like a real dick, and you might have to put the smack down if he doesn't see the error of his ways.

  88. Exactly! by chadjg · · Score: 1

    I think that we are talking about one of the very few fundamental shifts in the way people live.

    If you go to archeology for answers. people tended to live in small clusters surrounded by large areas of nothing. Take your average medieval ox driver, for an example. He probably lived in a single story hutclose to or with his animals. His neighbors were probably whithin shouting distance, if not close enough to hear when Joe Oxdriver was getting it on with his woman.

    Naming conventions conventions also gives us a clue. Many, many medieval types grew up with given name only, for practical purposes. If you wanted to identify Joe Oxdriver to a stranger, you might say "Tell Joe, son of Jim-Bob, of Horseappleville to plow my field before Easter or he's dead." Any person living living in Horseappleville probably knew exactly who that was. They probably called him Joe (nickname.) The point is people were identified by place and family, not by First, Middle, Last, Mother's maiden name, SSN, DLN, and what ever else.

    What does this tell us? People use naming conventions because they work. I grew up in a town of maybe 2000 people and they were spread out. I knew maybe 1/2 by name, and a few more were familiar. Any group larger than that will need more rigid naming conventions because people just won't know which family Joe belongs to and I guarantee they won't know where Laurelwood is, and who lives in it. I could locate almost any person in NYC given a proper name and maybe an address, SSN, or other piece of information. I don't need to know anything about the person or their group. Spell the name wrong and it's probably a lost cause. To a medieval, a simple mis-spelling of his Joe Oxdriver's name wouldn't matter, even if they could spell or read. Obviously there are large cities and exceptions, but I believe my generalisation is sound.

    Let's say that people lived in small clusters, and that there were only a few tens of millions in Europe. That leaves a lot of extra space, right? Records support that notion. I remember reading a translation of a report from a guy that walked from central Europe to Rome. He said that he walked for weeks without seeing the sun because of the dense forest. Any village or manor was probably surrounded by a lot of empty nothing. The small groups were surrounded by even more nothingness.

    When Joe Oxdriver went out to work, he probably only had to commute a couple of miles at most. All he would have heard was the wind, his beasts, and his assistant Oxpicker complaining about how it sucks that they have to look at an ox's butt for 14 hours a day. He would have been able to hear the cathedral's bell from miles away.

    Those bells weren't just decorations and pretty sound makers back then. They were the only real way most people marked the hours and seasons. They were a kind of universal pager. This simply wouldn't be practical in today's world where a person commutes 20 miles to work, works in the middle of the constant bedlam of thousands of cars, hundreds of other people and just the generic frenzy of city life. No one would hear or likely care about a cathedral bell, and would probably be pissed that they kept waking the whole neighborhood up at Matins. (3 am prayers?)

    Even your nomadic types tended to move about in small, rightly packed groups.

    The larger point is that the last few centuries are an abberation, and that headphones offer an way to get us back into a little bubble of the world that we have evolved to live in.

    I think that the constant din and crowdedness is a major source of psychological issues today. Joe Oxdriver lived a very quiet, rhythmic life that we just don't have today. The seasons and the prescribed activities in those seasons just didn't change much. Ox farts, harness noises, and occasional shouted directions to the beasts aside, the only noises were natural and rhythmic, and somewhat random. The wind blowing, the insect/frog/bird background would have melded into a very calming mix. Then Joe went home to a

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  89. who needs socializing... by omichron · · Score: 1

    Socializing is for cook-outs, bars and singles clubs. Socializing makes you weak; there's so much "social crap" out there. We are a society of mindless chatterers, gossiping about who's going out with who, who has a baby, who is this and who is that. All of this is especially so when it's gossip about aquaintances rather than actual friends. When you have a little downtime open up your ears and listen to the other people in your office chat; you'll see. I'm anti-social and proud of it! Raaaaarrrrrrr!

    1. Re:who needs socializing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Socializing makes you weak

      Wow, what an ubermensch. I wish I could be like you, man.

    2. Re:who needs socializing... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > I'm anti-social and proud of it! Raaaaarrrrrrr!

      Yes, only anti-socials use RAR! Everyone else uses ZIP.

  90. Conversation without headphones by ^_^x · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Hi"
    "..."
    "Great weather today!"
    "..."
    "..."
    "..."

    Everyone's already so afraid to talk to strangers regardless of headphones, I just gave up. May as well have music instead of silence.

  91. Not "anti" social by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I think that people are shy enough as it is. We do very little REAL social interaction as it is. Do we really want to become even more anti-social creatures by promoting music as some sort of "shield" from the outside world?
    People avoiding contact is perfectly normal urban behaviour. Stand on a crowded train and even if the person is an inch away from your face you will still avoid eye-contact. If you bump into him you'll probably both apologise. If she's an attractive young chick reading a book that you've read, you might strike up a conversation. If she's wearing headphones, she's sending out a message that she's not in the mood for being chatted up and saves you the embarrassment of being shot down.

    People who commute by car shield themselves from others in a steel cocoon. When they nearly bump into someone, or get stuck behind a slower driver, it results in an outpouring of anger.

    So you could say that commuting on foot and by mass transit can be more pleasant than taking a private car, and with the headphones you get a good approximation of the privacy of the car, but without the road rage.

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  92. Ultimate personal space through technology by BigBadBri · · Score: 1
    I think the ultimate goal in this is for full VR glasses, with my patented PHB-cancelling technology.

    Not only will the correct antinoise be generated to eliminate those irritating whingeing noises that PHBs make, but advanced image processing will remove the unsightly image of the PHB from my field of view, allowing me to continue surfing in peace.

    Ah - the joys of inner space!

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  93. Cubicle Farm... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My working day is spent in a cubicle farm. All day long I hear multiple phone conversations going on all day around me.

    I am a developer - which means I need to concentrate, very deeply at times. The background noise level is high enough that I can actually hear various conversations for cubes that are close to mine. This can be distracting particularly when you are trying to formulate an idea or write code, as you will find yourself start to listen to the conversations, instead of following your internal dialogue.

    To combat this, I sometimes don headphones and get some music going to drown out the conversations (preferably music without any words).

    Ideally, developers should have doors that close to block out these distractions - they would be much more productive. Unfortunately, management doesn't think that way...so productivity suffers.

    I just want some silence so my mind can think. Until they make the 'cone of silence' generally available in cubicle farms, earphones and music will have to do.

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  94. iPod special by wash23 · · Score: 1

    Heh, how much did he get paid to say "Digital players in general and the iPod in particular are having a dramatic effect on the way people behave, he says." What's special about the iPod in this regard?

  95. FOIB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I used to have one - it had 'FOIB' in big red letters, taped to my monitor.

    Once I explained the acronym to my coworkers (it stands for 'Fuck off, I'm busy'), they mairaculously avoided me whenever the sign was displayed.

    Much less distracting than headphones, and cheaper than an iPod.

  96. Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just bought headphones for using at school. I'm sitting in the lab doing lip sync and everyone around me was getting tired of hearing "We'll be right back" about 8 bazillion times in a row.

  97. Soundtrack to Our Lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply, it creates a soundtrack to our lives.

  98. It's not anti-social by riotstarter · · Score: 1

    Sometimes using headphones isn't anti-social.

    I use them so I won't annoy my roommmates with my music.

    It's Strapping Young Lad and Fear Factory.

    If you don't think it would annoy my roommates you've obviously never heard any Strapping Young Lad stuff.

  99. VISUAL advertisment blocker by gomel · · Score: 0

    homo sapiens was never under such a bombardment of informations like today. 30.000 years ago information was rare. if we do not stop the information flood we will become autistic, canceling out all incoming messages, even those relevant.

    i forsee that one day people will use glasses which will whiten out all street billboards. it is possible, it would be the opposite of those glasses which are supposed to put messages on rectangular surfaces.

    actually it will be the same glasses. they will cancel out the ads and put a nice browser window on the freed space.

    (there was a funny sci-fi flick where a guy found glasses, which showed who was an alien and who was a real person. they also showed, what the real message on the billboards was. i can't rememeber the name...)

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  100. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1

    Here's a couple of possible solutions -

    1) speak to him when you're not pissed off with him. Try and speak to him quietly away from colleagues, and he may be more receptive. Politely ask him to bear in mind it's distracting you. Try and get some of your other colleagues to speak to him independantly. Doesn't sound like it'll work, but it's worth a shot.

    2) speak to your supervisor. Point out he's is impacting your ability to work. It doesn't sound like you get on with him anyway, so it's not like carpeting him up will make your relationship much worse. Suggest rearranging the seating so he doesn't have to yell across the room to his buddy.

    3) If your supervisor is unwilling to deal with him, then you should do what he suggested; listen to music. On big ass speakers. With the bass turned up. Everytime he starts jabbering, turn the volume up a few notches. He'll soon get the message.

    Just make sure you've brought the problem up with your boss beforehand, because a) it's your boss' job to sort these problems out and b) it could well be your ass on the line if you haven't already made a complaint beforehand, especially in writing.

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  101. I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe I don't want to hear your inane tidbit of information.

    maybe I wish you would take a shower and shut up

  102. Drugs? by AvengerXP · · Score: 1

    "He analyzes them as a "tool whereby users manage space, time and the boundaries around the self.""

    What is the guy high on, crack? I can't make the time go faster/slower with a MP3 player, and i cannot expand my boundaries, my body is fixed width/length/weight.

    If you want to manage those, i suggest you grab the Astral Dominae, the Chaos Moliri and the Destinae Dominus. Then go to the cosmic forge. (www.wizardry8.com)

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  103. The people I most WANT to see with headphones... by symbolic · · Score: 1


    The socially malcontented boomcar freaks that drive up and down the street next to my place of residence. This has to be one of the more salient and deliberate invasions of personal space I can think of.

  104. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by leob · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I had this argument only this morning with a colleague. He shouts across the office to another colleague and has ongoing conversations with the other chap at the top of his voice.

    When I asked him if he could have that conversation over IM he told me to stick my fingers in my ears or to listen to music.

    First, buy a little voice recorder and record what he says.

    Then, buy the most expensive noise-blocking earphones yuo can find and bill him! If he refuses, threaten him with small claims court.

  105. Works with books/PDAs as well... by pocopoco · · Score: 1

    Well personally I think music is a waste of time so have no experience there. But I commute by bus and subway often and always have my nose buried in a book or PDA and have noticed a similar effect to what the article describes. In such crowded conditions people will actually stand/sit closer to you if you are really into a book and not looking around/moving much than they would otherwise.

    Although this sounds different than the article's "headphones reclaim some space" theme at first glance, it's actually the same thing - the crowd is not considering you as an active entity and not worrying as much about interacting with you.

  106. Re:'Phones at work : replacement for mutual respec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and *you*, toots, should get a sense of humour. Read carefully before you patronise people.

  107. Re:The people I most WANT to see with headphones.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get the plates and swear out a warrant. Most locales have anti-noise pollution laws. (But be prepared to suffer vandalism and take appropriate revenge if necessary.)

  108. Re:The people I most WANT to see with headphones.. by symbolic · · Score: 1


    We have an ordinance, and I've been in regular contact with our police department liaison regarding this issue. Funny how they try to trivialize a problem that has such a voluminous number of complaints. What's really disturbing is that they approach the enforcement of this ordinance as though it were a business proposition- something to the effect, "if we can issue a minimum of 30 tickets per hour, it will be cost effective." Just DO YOUR JOB for Pete's sake.

  109. Re:The people I most WANT to see with headphones.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I don't know how large of a jurisdiction you live in, but if the police blow off the problem, the next step is the politicians the police work for. Of course, at that point, if you ever break the most trivial law, watch out . . .

    Guess I'm fortunate to live in a small (but not wealthy) suburb with a good, responsive police force.

  110. Musicians cannot have music while programming? by solprovider · · Score: 1

    I write songs, and play guitar and other instruments. I cannot have music playing while I program. If there is music playing, I am writing lyrics or adding another musical part. Programming seems to require the same part of the brain that those tasks use.

    Is there a divider between musician and non-musician programmers? Musicians analyze the music, and so cannot program while it is playing, since their analysis circuits are already in use. Non-musicians do not analyze the music, and so can use music to filter out the world so they can concentrate better.

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  111. It's quiet by qoa · · Score: 1

    I often find myself sitting at my pc with my headphones on, and no music playing. People tend to not try to talk to me this way.

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    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.