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A few ticks backwards of the clock One guy A limited number of brain cells One overgrown ego A couple of feathers Some glue Running at a good clip A decent sized cliff Some nice jagged rocks
Everytime said guy runs off the cliff with a couple of feathers glued to his back he ends up a chunky wet spot on the jagged rocks.
But that won't stop some other idiot from saying He just needed-
More feathers Straps instead of glue To run faster A taller cliff Less pointy rocks
Let's not get into the point of how its always someone who isn't willing to jump off the cliff that swears it would work if someone just followed HIS plans
At some point, you stop coming out to watch the spectacle because you have seen all the possible pretty splatter patterns.
AND MAYBE, just MAYBE, you start considering some other alternatives
This guy found a good number of idiots to run off a cliff. I applaud him for it
Yes, their patches do on occasions break things. Not defending that, they need to be more careful sometimes...
But "MORE OFTEN THAN NOT" is FAR from the truth, and I am sure you know this. But, with your M$ $ucks patch sewn directly on your forehead, you kinda hafta make remarks like this, right?
On the few occasions things break they are rarely of the "blow up the server" variety, and MORE OFTEN THAN NOT *grin* they are of the "when the stars align" kind that you HEAR about in bug reports but don't experience first hand.
Obligatory warning: I'll be talking about the price as compared to a complete album, not individual songs]
You then ACTUALLY talked about
At $0.99 (US) a song
In other words, you are comparing part of the whole DIRECTLY to the whole. Of course its not the same
You go off into all the tangents about the jewel case, without addressing your original complaint-one song is not worth $15.98. So now you can buy that ONE SONG and add your own CD, jewel case, etc. and you still have less than $2.50 in it EVEN if you are shopping at Guido's Corner store for your CDs and the jewel cases have real jewels in them.
If you want the original CD, cool, go buy it??? No problem there. Really, I mean it.
They are selling you the opportunity to buy that ONE song you were complaining about buying all the extras with when all the other songs suck!
All the other stuff you mentioned? So you want ALL the content and the labor, shipping, manufacturing, and physical plastic and thing layer of shiny together?
Then that's the full package, sir. Going rate-$15.98
I think you mean the same way any user can peer share their garage bands mp3s of their version of "Stairway" up to a small touring club band hoping to get a break by self promoting themselves by giving their music away hoping that people will pay to come see them.
No, they should HAVE to pay Apple for this right.
I am not kidding or being facetious.
But in the end Apple should get to decide if it is worth their energy to negotiate with an INDIVIDUAL BAND or SMALL LABEL.
Apple is taking the risk. They are paying for the infrastructure. The "brand building"
No, you should not be able to set up your own server or upload your own songs within the network.
They have to make a profit at this for this to work. If that means that they only deal with a company that gives them a library of 50,000 songs that they KNOW at least SOME of which people are willing to pay, that's their choice.
I know this will be not be a popular view, but from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense-
I can sell 10,000 Britney songs at a $.50 profit each or I can sell 10 of your songs $1 a shot. Not really a hard choice...
With a broadband connection and a decent speed burner...MOST people could have the song downloaded and burned to a CD BEFORE you get your keys in the ignition.
SO you say? Well, you could be listening to the song ON THE WAY to the grocery store.
Add to the fact that its likely that you would have to stand in line at the music store AND, oh yeah, you would still be paying $10 or up for that physical CD.
Oh, and you go to the grocery store EVERY day, too, right???
Really, this isn't more convenient???
(BTW, I am saying all this given the facts that I don't have ANY of the things mentioned-high speed ISP, burner, or an Apple. But IF I did, I would find this DAMN convenient)
Personally, I still believe its a valid complaint.
Yes, yes, it is more complicated than my simple analogy...
As I said tho, you're right, its NOT the same thing, as I said in my original post. However, it IS in the same spirit:
Send out craploads of cheap "mail", if 1 out of 1000 bites, you win. Screw the other 999 who wasted time and effort dealing with your crap.
Would you suggest if they didn't have to pay the postage they would THEN care about the people who don't want their crap?
Its like a musician who steals cable or satellite service and then bitches about his songs being pirated when he gets his one hit. Its not the EXACT same thing, sorry I tried to make such a leap of logic *grin*
Good to see that some tech journalists can still write material understandable by an average person."
This is a little unfair. Their views might be a little backasswards sometimes, BUT by turning on spell/grammar check, your fellow/. editors would at least be UNDERSTANDABLE
The fact that his business address is the same as his home address does cast some doubt on this, as Uy may not have intended to give out Moore's home address, but from what I gather, he knows now, and has still refused to take down the information, so it's not so much of a point anymore.
ACTUALLY, it is still VERY much a point. IF Moore had since changed his legitimate business address, fine.
(I say legitimate in the context of it being a real address where his business receives correspondence and not legitimate in reference to his business, which after RTA suggests it is far from legit)
Unfortunately, Moore is the one using his family as a shield. Much like the Iraq leadership. (Stand in the middle of a bunch of civilians and fire at US Troops. Blame US when civilians are injured/worse)
So, IF Moore changes his Business address and actually gets his other business mail there and its not just a fake PO box to dump junk mail to, that should be the address that is published on the web and references to his current address should be removed.
I am disgusted by the ability of the government to hold people uncharged.
Scratch that. I am DISGUSTED by the CLAIM that they can hold people uncharged. They may be doing it but I totally question their right to do this.
The sad thing is that many of the people they are holding LIKELY could be charged, but there is such a burden of proof now (There wasn't enough evidence to convict O.J.?!?!) that I believe prosecutors are using this as a hold'em until we can charge them card. It's a tough call if they really are dangerous, but I don't think it is right to hold them if you aren't charging them.
HOWEVER, I have serious doubts that NO ONE has questioned Mr. Hawash??? What sense does that make?
MAYBE, MAYBE this is true. Or maybe it is deeper than that.
Maybe the government has questioned him on things he doesn't want to tell his workers and family about. And the government is stuck because they can't jump out and tell the nation while at the same time claiming they have right to hold him secretly (their fault).
If Mr. Hawash is innocent, I will be the first to say this is miserable and disgusting treatment.
But suppose he is guilty of something...It is wrong to hold him without charging him. Period.
Hardware emulation isn't illeagle. No honest to god it isn't
Honest to goodness, that's good to hear...I mean, we had a parakeet when I was a kid, and it got sick once and it was pretty bad the mess it made.
But a sick eagle?!! THEY ARE HUGE! And with their diet, you would have mice carcasses and such everywhere, it would be a bloody disgusting mess, honest to god
Well, the computer has no clue that half the flaps are gone, and nothing in the scenarios could have fixed the rolling. It is a case where the problem is beyond the scope of the software that controls the system.
Respectfully, I disagree. Not because I am guessing as to this happening, but because I remember hearing it described that the computer did EXACTLY that. When the autopilot was on toward the end, it WAS attempting to make corrections. Now, I don't believe it knew WHY, but it was detecting "anomalies" in the flight path and trying to adjust for them.
I THINK you are reinforcing my point somewhat, though I am not sure if you meant to or not.
Yes, there is little reason for the crew to try to land the Shuttle. But if you look at the link I have included and IF I could find the original link you would see that for WHATEVER reason, the autopilot WAS turned off.
AND it is clear this has happened before and that apparently all it takes to occur is the stick getting "bumped" or some other minor detail
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He could talk in something APPROACHING soundbites, like most politicians do.
Not to say that everything needs to be a "soundbite" but, DAMN, look at those full page paragraphs...one after another
There are DEFINITELY thing that need to be explained in infinite detail, but come on, not EVERYTHING
Imagine this-
A few ticks backwards of the clock
One guy
A limited number of brain cells
One overgrown ego
A couple of feathers
Some glue
Running at a good clip
A decent sized cliff
Some nice jagged rocks
Everytime said guy runs off the cliff with a couple of feathers glued to his back he ends up a chunky wet spot on the jagged rocks.
But that won't stop some other idiot from saying He just needed-
More feathers
Straps instead of glue
To run faster
A taller cliff
Less pointy rocks
Let's not get into the point of how its always someone who isn't willing to jump off the cliff that swears it would work if someone just followed HIS plans
At some point, you stop coming out to watch the spectacle because you have seen all the possible pretty splatter patterns.
AND MAYBE, just MAYBE, you start considering some other alternatives
This guy found a good number of idiots to run off a cliff. I applaud him for it
Oh My God! You slashdotted ICANN! You bastards!
Oh, wait, they aren't that cool anyways
The US Patent system!
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HA
HA
Oh god!
That's a good one...
Damn
HEHEHE
HA
HA
HA
Wait a sec, this is real! Doh!
BS BS BS BS BS BS BS
BS BS BS BS BS BS BS
Yes, their patches do on occasions break things. Not defending that, they need to be more careful sometimes...
But "MORE OFTEN THAN NOT" is FAR from the truth, and I am sure you know this. But, with your M$ $ucks patch sewn directly on your forehead, you kinda hafta make remarks like this, right?
On the few occasions things break they are rarely of the "blow up the server" variety, and MORE OFTEN THAN NOT *grin* they are of the "when the stars align" kind that you HEAR about in bug reports but don't experience first hand.
There was always this "Well, the AMD doesn't ACTUALLY run that fast, they just label it that way" thing going on.
HOWEVER...
Used to be, when you put an Intel head to head with the Equally-Labeled AMD, normally the AMD was up to or faster than the Intel chip.
So, no problem. If the electric car runs as fast as a 3.2 liter combustion engine, you won't get any protest from me in labeling it as a "3.2 engine"
But they are screwing up here. When you start over selling things, you make it difficult to trust you are being upfront all around.
And when you already have one * built in to you processor name, you don't want to call attention to it.
Before, I have had no problem feeling that I was getting a far comparison from AMD (my current processor is an AMD)
But I now I will be hesitant at buying their hype. Is this chip really as fast as the Intel?
This reminded me immediately of a fav Dilbert cartoon. Not exact, but I hope close
PHB- "I think I need to upgrade my computer."
Dilbert-"You're computer is a cardboard prop that came with your desk"
PHB-"So I need a motherboard?"
Dilbert-"No, you need a new desk."
Except, in this case (Damn puns!) the PHB would be right!
I agree, but my concern here was people going-
1. Well, I should be able to set up my own server and share latest 48 seconds of silence remix
OR
2. Well, Apple should have to carry my rockin indie rock folk jam.
Afterall, the cost of putting up one song is nothing right?
Wrong.
Time to negotiate buy price, invoicing, dealing with band that says they sold 10 when Apple say that only 9 were bought, etc.
*Holds up hand* Dumbass!
Okay, SOMEONE here was talking about albums in the context of only one or two good songs on the ENTIRE CD....
*looks around room at the 30 OTHER Threads he has been reading and realizes this is not one of those threads, sheepish grin*
My main point still stands-Personally, I would by MORE music by the song at $.99
That might lead to paying $17 for an entire album one day far away. I think in the end I would come out FAR ahead
No my reading is great, thanks!
You started with:
Obligatory warning: I'll be talking about the price as compared to a complete album, not individual songs]
You then ACTUALLY talked about
At $0.99 (US) a song
In other words, you are comparing part of the whole DIRECTLY to the whole. Of course its not the same
You go off into all the tangents about the jewel case, without addressing your original complaint-one song is not worth $15.98. So now you can buy that ONE SONG and add your own CD, jewel case, etc. and you still have less than $2.50 in it EVEN if you are shopping at Guido's Corner store for your CDs and the jewel cases have real jewels in them.
Less than 5 minutes for THE ONE SONG I don't see as unrealistic.
REMEMBER, the parent was not talking about a "trunk full of CDs", just one song
So, suppose, its not the ONE day out of ten I go to the grocery store...
Yeah, you caught me, I was exaggerating when I said "Before you get your keys in the ignition" if you jumped right up and went straight out.
But for most I would bet its before they get to the first stoplight.
You said it...
It's OTHER Stuff!
If you want the original CD, cool, go buy it??? No problem there. Really, I mean it.
They are selling you the opportunity to buy that ONE song you were complaining about buying all the extras with when all the other songs suck!
All the other stuff you mentioned? So you want ALL the content and the labor, shipping, manufacturing, and physical plastic and thing layer of shiny together?
Then that's the full package, sir. Going rate-$15.98
I know which one I would choose
The main word here is INDEPENDENTLY
I think you mean the same way any user can peer share their garage bands mp3s of their version of "Stairway" up to a small touring club band hoping to get a break by self promoting themselves by giving their music away hoping that people will pay to come see them.
No, they should HAVE to pay Apple for this right.
I am not kidding or being facetious.
But in the end Apple should get to decide if it is worth their energy to negotiate with an INDIVIDUAL BAND or SMALL LABEL.
Apple is taking the risk. They are paying for the infrastructure. The "brand building"
No, you should not be able to set up your own server or upload your own songs within the network.
They have to make a profit at this for this to work. If that means that they only deal with a company that gives them a library of 50,000 songs that they KNOW at least SOME of which people are willing to pay, that's their choice.
I know this will be not be a popular view, but from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense-
I can sell 10,000 Britney songs at a $.50 profit each or I can sell 10 of your songs $1 a shot. Not really a hard choice...
With a broadband connection and a decent speed burner...MOST people could have the song downloaded and burned to a CD BEFORE you get your keys in the ignition.
SO you say? Well, you could be listening to the song ON THE WAY to the grocery store.
Add to the fact that its likely that you would have to stand in line at the music store AND, oh yeah, you would still be paying $10 or up for that physical CD.
Oh, and you go to the grocery store EVERY day, too, right???
Really, this isn't more convenient???
(BTW, I am saying all this given the facts that I don't have ANY of the things mentioned-high speed ISP, burner, or an Apple. But IF I did, I would find this DAMN convenient)
Personally, I still believe its a valid complaint.
Yes, yes, it is more complicated than my simple analogy...
As I said tho, you're right, its NOT the same thing, as I said in my original post. However, it IS in the same spirit:
Send out craploads of cheap "mail", if 1 out of 1000 bites, you win. Screw the other 999 who wasted time and effort dealing with your crap.
Would you suggest if they didn't have to pay the postage they would THEN care about the people who don't want their crap?
Its like a musician who steals cable or satellite service and then bitches about his songs being pirated when he gets his one hit. Its not the EXACT same thing, sorry I tried to make such a leap of logic *grin*
I know its not a unique thought, and it's not quite the same thing, but
I find this such utter hypocrisy as their "Free CDs" are spammed to everyone
Not that they should stop going after the spammers, they just need to let up on the CDs
Good to see that some tech journalists can still write material understandable by an average person."
/. editors would at least be UNDERSTANDABLE
This is a little unfair. Their views might be a little backasswards sometimes, BUT by turning on spell/grammar check, your fellow
I'll give you $10, you pay the shipping *grin*
Check my Karma, it's Exceeellleent! That's even better than feedback!
I thought I was the only one getting these SPAM messages about fixing my septic tank!
It actually made me worry: Who would know I need help with my septic tank? What kind of dietary changes would I need to make?
Especially since I don't have a septic tank, to the best of my knowledge. (Soon to follow-"We will help you determine if you have a septic tank!!")
Now, my suitemate in college, I bet HE needs some septic tank SPAM...
The fact that his business address is the same as his home address does cast some doubt on this, as Uy may not have intended to give out Moore's home address, but from what I gather, he knows now, and has still refused to take down the information, so it's not so much of a point anymore.
ACTUALLY, it is still VERY much a point. IF Moore had since changed his legitimate business address, fine.
(I say legitimate in the context of it being a real address where his business receives correspondence and not legitimate in reference to his business, which after RTA suggests it is far from legit)
Unfortunately, Moore is the one using his family as a shield. Much like the Iraq leadership. (Stand in the middle of a bunch of civilians and fire at US Troops. Blame US when civilians are injured/worse)
So, IF Moore changes his Business address and actually gets his other business mail there and its not just a fake PO box to dump junk mail to, that should be the address that is published on the web and references to his current address should be removed.
I am disgusted by the ability of the government to hold people uncharged.
Scratch that. I am DISGUSTED by the CLAIM that they can hold people uncharged. They may be doing it but I totally question their right to do this.
The sad thing is that many of the people they are holding LIKELY could be charged, but there is such a burden of proof now (There wasn't enough evidence to convict O.J.?!?!) that I believe prosecutors are using this as a hold'em until we can charge them card. It's a tough call if they really are dangerous, but I don't think it is right to hold them if you aren't charging them.
HOWEVER, I have serious doubts that NO ONE has questioned Mr. Hawash??? What sense does that make?
MAYBE, MAYBE this is true. Or maybe it is deeper than that.
Maybe the government has questioned him on things he doesn't want to tell his workers and family about. And the government is stuck because they can't jump out and tell the nation while at the same time claiming they have right to hold him secretly (their fault).
If Mr. Hawash is innocent, I will be the first to say this is miserable and disgusting treatment.
But suppose he is guilty of something...It is wrong to hold him without charging him. Period.
Hardware emulation isn't illeagle. No honest to god it isn't
Honest to goodness, that's good to hear...I mean, we had a parakeet when I was a kid, and it got sick once and it was pretty bad the mess it made.
But a sick eagle?!! THEY ARE HUGE! And with their diet, you would have mice carcasses and such everywhere, it would be a bloody disgusting mess, honest to god
*grin*
Well, the computer has no clue that half the flaps are gone, and nothing in the scenarios could have fixed the rolling. It is a case where the problem is beyond the scope of the software that controls the system.
Respectfully, I disagree. Not because I am guessing as to this happening, but because I remember hearing it described that the computer did EXACTLY that. When the autopilot was on toward the end, it WAS attempting to make corrections. Now, I don't believe it knew WHY, but it was detecting "anomalies" in the flight path and trying to adjust for them.
I THINK you are reinforcing my point somewhat, though I am not sure if you meant to or not.
Yes, there is little reason for the crew to try to land the Shuttle. But if you look at the link I have included and IF I could find the original link you would see that for WHATEVER reason, the autopilot WAS turned off.
AND it is clear this has happened before and that apparently all it takes to occur is the stick getting "bumped" or some other minor detail