Call this flamebait if you wish but read the whole point FIRST please
I guess theoretically they can do it, although it sure feels wrong somehow
Call me to task if I'm wrong, but when you take the viewpoint that it is wrong for a company to do EXACTLY what is permitted under an "open" license, you are stepping very close to the "It has been EXPOSED, it is now infected with open code" viewpoint that Ballmer suggested.
BTW, I believe that BOTH Taco and Ballmer are wrong, but their motives for WHY are different.
Smart Tags do not "modify other people's content" They add an additional functionality of a browser that I MIGHT use to look at an existing page. When you write Linux on your page, it will still say Linux. Unless I decide to use a Smart Tag enabled browser, nothing changes
Check out NBCi's QuickClick, it does the same thing: It adds additional links to words it recognizes and gives you a seperate float over to get more info (these additional links are "controlled" by NBCi, just as MS is going to do)
If I go to your webpage, can I not look at it through filters that I decide to add???
This type of technology has been out for a while-see NBCi.com, etc. This is not a troll, but I don't recall this type of outcry when other companies started offering this functionality.
IF prior posts are true and the MS version is disabled by default, I see NOTHING wrong with this functionality. I know if I use NBCi that they are going to point me to what THEY want me to see. Nothing different here.
Almost the same as a banner ad. I know the site op didnt put that PARTICULAR ad there, I know the angle the ad is coming at me from. I am not going to hold that against the site op.
If I am aware enuf to go somewhere and enable this feature, I am aware enuf to deal with the propaganda thrown my way.
Plus I think the original poster's remark about starting all over again after finishing the last page is an acceptable exaggeration: the whole trilogy once a year seems more likely and adaequate to me, lest it won't get too stale too soon.
Not that any one cares this much, but this is, sadly, FAR from an exaggeration. If anything it is an understatement. The "Trilogy" is the ONLY book in my reading room (okay, its the bathroom, leave me alone *grin*) Sit down, read a page or two, you would be surprised how fast the books can go.
Did I just share too much??? Hello, I am Jason and I read in the bathroom...
First off, I am a HUGE Adams fan. I literally read the "Trilogy" from begining to end, and then go back to the beginning again (prob, ten times now thru)
However, I do not need new material enough that they should publish a TRULY unfinished work. Now, if "unfinished" means he sent HIS last draft to the editors and it hasn't been edited and rewritten to their standards yet, fine.
Can't believe I titled my post that way, but unavoidable after reading the patent. Have to give them credit at least for trying to be creative-"Time Warping Device" indeed.
I do not believe that this is not simply"recording one program while watching another."
What they are describing in most of this is the "pause, rewind, fast forward" features of TiVo, and how a this is CAPABLE with VCRs, but a pain in the ass.
However, a VCR cannot both capture and play back information at the same time.
One approach to solving this problem is to use several VCRs. For example, if two video tape recorders are available, it might be possible to Ping-Pong between the two. In this case, the first recorder is started at the beginning of the program of interest. If the viewer wishes to rewind the broadcast, the second recorder begins recording, while the first recorder is halted, rewound to the appropriate place, and playback initiated.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time! *grin*
By March 2000 we had grown to 80 people. I was still CEO and beginning to feel nervous that, for every task in the company, I could not say exactly who was supposed to do what and by when.
My point, if somewhat brutal, is if you are incapable of knowing even the simple functions of your employees and what they do, I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are REALLY running the company. Therefore, the new management is going to tell ppl "Sure, you can work just 40 hours a week"
From all accounts, Greenspun is an EXTREMELY intelligent person. He COULD have sat down once a week and studied thru who did what for 30 minutes. But instead of doing the CEO duties, I bet he was right there in the trenches trying to handle all the companies issues. That only works with small companies...
Let me make a summary of how things evolved, as in so many small companies:
Ititially, the company was small and Greenspun ran EVERYTHING. But as the company grew Greenspun found certain things were getting to the edge of his manageability. So he fell to the things he knew he could keep control of: So the plan was that I'd keep responsibility for engineering, education, and evangelism He let go and let the company "manage itself."
However, growth, money and Greenspun's own decisions changed that culture:
1. He made a known decision to accept enough work that he suddenly needed a workforce of 80 that he admits he couldn't handle (You CAN turn away work! If the company had continued with 10 employees, it would prob have been a small but very rich group of employees working on high yield specialty projects that the company would NEVER have run out of, AND could have been managed to Greenspun's specs)
2. HE decided to bring in a new CEO that apparantly subscribed to a different work atmosphere, and prob never even discussed those aspects with the incoming CEO
He started the domino effect that changed everything, but he is blaming those at the end of the line for everything...
Contributing to the high cost structure was the new culture of working 9-5 Monday through Friday
HOW DARE THEY WORK only 40 HOURS...The BASTARDS!!!!!
equals "When we were small, we paid ppl crap and worked them long hours. And we made money *surprise* But then the company got bigger, and we couldn't twist arms, the CEO wasn't a diehard workaholic and the troops followed along. Lazy assholes!!!"
I am not faulting him for working ppl, if they were willing to do it for crap money, good for him.
But unless you are sitting down with ppl when they show up for their interview and saying "We expect you to work this many hours", dont fault them for putting in STANDARD days!!!
He doesn't say or even imply that they weren't putting in their 40 hours, they were working full weeks, but that just wasn't good enuf dammit!
The United States seems not to comprehend a tradition that places an enormous premium on honor, face, and responsibility.
Honor, Face and Responsibility are the basis of the US refusal to apologize!!!
Only in a posture of weakness would the US apologize for this Chinese caused incident. To maintain honor, and to NOT become subject to the whims of ANY terrorist state, the US must not kneel to blatent arm-twisting and whining.
You're kidding, right?
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If someone yells "Fire" in a theater, there are immediate physical dangers to your person- You may be trampled by people run like idiots, whatever...
What is the equivalent of yelling "Fire" on the Net?!
If I type "Fire" in a chatroom, surely this poses no threat to you. You would not be harmed by even the most vicious jpg of a fire on webpage...
Even the most insidious speech on the net may do nothing more harmful to you than raising your blood pressure...
It is different...because it is different...some things are no more complex than that
Why wouldn't this apply to the net as well?
I would suspect that you are a fairly logical person in real life, why doesn't that apply on the net as well? *grin*
First, let me say that I am a unknowing, stupid MCSE. I like MS products for the most part and feel that/.s generally slam MS at any chance, whether justified or not.
That said, this IS Microsoft's fault. It helps that they put it in the documentation, but that is not enuf.
If the product contradicts the documentation, it is still their fault
It should pop up an error that you are not using a version the patch was intended for. A simple version check before the patch runs would do this
"This update does not need to be installed on this system" is flatly incorrect. If any logical person saw this message, they would NOT go back and read the documentation to confirm it.
They should read it first, but come on, did you read the Quake manual before you installed???
Because then slashdot becomes...
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The first several weeks of the program were quite interesting and informative
It sounds like they DID live up to their side of the bargain. This is as good as any co-op experience I have heard of, ESPECIALLY for high school level.
What to do? Go to your supervisor and say "In ADDITION to what we are already doing, is there a way we may expose ourselves to more of the (engineering related items) we were working on before?"
Some games (the Quakeabes) will always strive for ultra-virtual-photo-realistic rendering. The less is more approach, by definition, will fail.
Other games, would lose very little from not having nano-second 3D rendering. Even some of the more popular online fare (Ultima Online?) could be pulled off without any real 3D hardware/programming. And these games would benefit by losing lag issues when the processor is no longer chugging away at rendering blades of grass/strands of hair and can communicate more often about the troll that is attacking you.
Not to make fun of a bad situation, you seem to have a good sense of humor by your own comments, SO...
It's your fav game show: Survivor-Cubicle Hell. Outcode, Outscript, Out-the-Door!
Maybe they are seeing who can hold out the longest. First, the Cokes go, then the coffee, then the internet access. The final step is the toilet paper!
Hope you make it thru the tribal council!
May the/. gods forgive me for the Survivor reference.
If/. simply posted these items and there was nothing else to be said, I might see your point.
However, the boards are what make/.
I know for damn sure that it is more important to read the average submission than the often ill-written/ill-researched lead stories (Damn, I REALLY wanted to be pro-Slashdot too. Crap! *grin*)
A company with an agenda does not open itself as the main forum for open discussion.
I have read the article-thank you-and it does not change the inverse of the Open Source mantra:
One person figures it out and everyone benefits
All it takes is ONE person writing a script thats DOES use this exploit and the script kiddies will be unleashed. It does not matter that it is sufficiently hard to write, if someone writes it once, thats all it takes. Hard to write and hard to run a script are two different things
You can call this a troll if ya want, or you can take it as it was intended: a reminder that the/. community needs to do a bias check when it discusses vulnerabilities. (Or dont do a bias check, its entertaining, and hey/. is the place to be if you lean to open source!) *grin*
All too often on M$ related items the comments read like this "hahaha, if they had just disabled this, this wouldn't be a problem. They're just idiots!"
On Open Source issues they read like this "Well, this isn't REALLY a problem...if you simply turn off this, you are safe. Easy."
If my neighbor isn't diligent and I send him an e-mail, I'm still vulnerable.
This much has always been true in ANY private communication. The point of failure will always be what steps the recipient takes/doesn't take to protect that information. In order to communicate with another humna being, this risk is inherent.
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I guess theoretically they can do it, although it sure feels wrong somehow
Call me to task if I'm wrong, but when you take the viewpoint that it is wrong for a company to do EXACTLY what is permitted under an "open" license, you are stepping very close to the "It has been EXPOSED, it is now infected with open code" viewpoint that Ballmer suggested.
BTW, I believe that BOTH Taco and Ballmer are wrong, but their motives for WHY are different.
YOU GOTTA FIGHT...FOR YOUR RIGHT...TO PARODY!!!!
Enter cranked guitar effects as necessay...
Check out NBCi's QuickClick, it does the same thing: It adds additional links to words it recognizes and gives you a seperate float over to get more info (these additional links are "controlled" by NBCi, just as MS is going to do)
If I go to your webpage, can I not look at it through filters that I decide to add???
IF prior posts are true and the MS version is disabled by default, I see NOTHING wrong with this functionality. I know if I use NBCi that they are going to point me to what THEY want me to see. Nothing different here.
Almost the same as a banner ad. I know the site op didnt put that PARTICULAR ad there, I know the angle the ad is coming at me from. I am not going to hold that against the site op.
If I am aware enuf to go somewhere and enable this feature, I am aware enuf to deal with the propaganda thrown my way.
Not that any one cares this much, but this is, sadly, FAR from an exaggeration. If anything it is an understatement. The "Trilogy" is the ONLY book in my reading room (okay, its the bathroom, leave me alone *grin*) Sit down, read a page or two, you would be surprised how fast the books can go.
Did I just share too much??? Hello, I am Jason and I read in the bathroom...
However, I do not need new material enough that they should publish a TRULY unfinished work. Now, if "unfinished" means he sent HIS last draft to the editors and it hasn't been edited and rewritten to their standards yet, fine.
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Aimed at the PDA audience...
I do not believe that this is not simply "recording one program while watching another."
What they are describing in most of this is the "pause, rewind, fast forward" features of TiVo, and how a this is CAPABLE with VCRs, but a pain in the ass.
However, a VCR cannot both capture and play back information at the same time. One approach to solving this problem is to use several VCRs. For example, if two video tape recorders are available, it might be possible to Ping-Pong between the two. In this case, the first recorder is started at the beginning of the program of interest. If the viewer wishes to rewind the broadcast, the second recorder begins recording, while the first recorder is halted, rewound to the appropriate place, and playback initiated.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time! *grin*
My point, if somewhat brutal, is if you are incapable of knowing even the simple functions of your employees and what they do, I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are REALLY running the company. Therefore, the new management is going to tell ppl "Sure, you can work just 40 hours a week"
From all accounts, Greenspun is an EXTREMELY intelligent person. He COULD have sat down once a week and studied thru who did what for 30 minutes. But instead of doing the CEO duties, I bet he was right there in the trenches trying to handle all the companies issues. That only works with small companies...
Let me make a summary of how things evolved, as in so many small companies:
Ititially, the company was small and Greenspun ran EVERYTHING. But as the company grew Greenspun found certain things were getting to the edge of his manageability. So he fell to the things he knew he could keep control of: So the plan was that I'd keep responsibility for engineering, education, and evangelism He let go and let the company "manage itself."
However, growth, money and Greenspun's own decisions changed that culture:
1. He made a known decision to accept enough work that he suddenly needed a workforce of 80 that he admits he couldn't handle (You CAN turn away work! If the company had continued with 10 employees, it would prob have been a small but very rich group of employees working on high yield specialty projects that the company would NEVER have run out of, AND could have been managed to Greenspun's specs)
2. HE decided to bring in a new CEO that apparantly subscribed to a different work atmosphere, and prob never even discussed those aspects with the incoming CEO
He started the domino effect that changed everything, but he is blaming those at the end of the line for everything...
HOW DARE THEY WORK only 40 HOURS...The BASTARDS!!!!!
equals "When we were small, we paid ppl crap and worked them long hours. And we made money *surprise* But then the company got bigger, and we couldn't twist arms, the CEO wasn't a diehard workaholic and the troops followed along. Lazy assholes!!!"
I am not faulting him for working ppl, if they were willing to do it for crap money, good for him.
But unless you are sitting down with ppl when they show up for their interview and saying "We expect you to work this many hours", dont fault them for putting in STANDARD days!!!
He doesn't say or even imply that they weren't putting in their 40 hours, they were working full weeks, but that just wasn't good enuf dammit!
Wow, just, wow...
The current implementation in O2K is acceptable with just one checkbox to turn the whole damn thing off
The United States seems not to comprehend a tradition that places an enormous premium on honor, face, and responsibility.
Honor, Face and Responsibility are the basis of the US refusal to apologize!!!
Only in a posture of weakness would the US apologize for this Chinese caused incident. To maintain honor, and to NOT become subject to the whims of ANY terrorist state, the US must not kneel to blatent arm-twisting and whining.
What is the equivalent of yelling "Fire" on the Net?!
If I type "Fire" in a chatroom, surely this poses no threat to you. You would not be harmed by even the most vicious jpg of a fire on webpage...
Even the most insidious speech on the net may do nothing more harmful to you than raising your blood pressure...
It is different...because it is different...some things are no more complex than that
Why wouldn't this apply to the net as well?
I would suspect that you are a fairly logical person in real life, why doesn't that apply on the net as well? *grin*
That said, this IS Microsoft's fault. It helps that they put it in the documentation, but that is not enuf.
If the product contradicts the documentation, it is still their fault
It should pop up an error that you are not using a version the patch was intended for. A simple version check before the patch runs would do this
"This update does not need to be installed on this system" is flatly incorrect. If any logical person saw this message, they would NOT go back and read the documentation to confirm it.
They should read it first, but come on, did you read the Quake manual before you installed???
Not that Everything is a bad site, but sometimes it gets old looking at EVERY word being linked...
It sounds like they DID live up to their side of the bargain. This is as good as any co-op experience I have heard of, ESPECIALLY for high school level.
What to do? Go to your supervisor and say "In ADDITION to what we are already doing, is there a way we may expose ourselves to more of the (engineering related items) we were working on before?"
I'd be shocked if they didn't respond favorably.
Yes and No
Some games (the Quakeabes) will always strive for ultra-virtual-photo-realistic rendering. The less is more approach, by definition, will fail.
Other games, would lose very little from not having nano-second 3D rendering. Even some of the more popular online fare (Ultima Online?) could be pulled off without any real 3D hardware/programming. And these games would benefit by losing lag issues when the processor is no longer chugging away at rendering blades of grass/strands of hair and can communicate more often about the troll that is attacking you.
Thanks to the phone lists and bottle of coke on my desk to inspire me with the right numbers...
It's your fav game show: Survivor-Cubicle Hell. Outcode, Outscript, Out-the-Door!
Maybe they are seeing who can hold out the longest. First, the Cokes go, then the coffee, then the internet access. The final step is the toilet paper!
Hope you make it thru the tribal council!
May the /. gods forgive me for the Survivor reference.
If /. simply posted these items and there was nothing else to be said, I might see your point.
However, the boards are what make /.
I know for damn sure that it is more important to read the average submission than the often ill-written/ill-researched lead stories (Damn, I REALLY wanted to be pro-Slashdot too. Crap! *grin*)
A company with an agenda does not open itself as the main forum for open discussion.
One person figures it out and everyone benefits
All it takes is ONE person writing a script thats DOES use this exploit and the script kiddies will be unleashed. It does not matter that it is sufficiently hard to write, if someone writes it once, thats all it takes. Hard to write and hard to run a script are two different things
You can call this a troll if ya want, or you can take it as it was intended: a reminder that the /. community needs to do a bias check when it discusses vulnerabilities. (Or dont do a bias check, its entertaining, and hey /. is the place to be if you lean to open source!) *grin*
All too often on M$ related items the comments read like this "hahaha, if they had just disabled this, this wouldn't be a problem. They're just idiots!"
On Open Source issues they read like this "Well, this isn't REALLY a problem...if you simply turn off this, you are safe. Easy."
Joe User will leave his password and key and everything else you need on a post-it note stuck to his monitor
This much has always been true in ANY private communication. The point of failure will always be what steps the recipient takes/doesn't take to protect that information. In order to communicate with another humna being, this risk is inherent.
Singing "Paranoia may destroy yaaa..."