Great. This is another problem with the educational system. Rather than encouraging free thinking, it encourages absolute obedience to authority. Don't question authority! They could never be wrong! I experienced this many times when I was in school.
Shut up and memorize this information for a test! Rote memorization is the best way to learn and understand the world around you!
Well, sorry for caring if other people get ripped off. Sorry for actually taking into account the past (and future, as is the case with their continuing support of DRM) actions of companies I buy from. I won't let them get away with things I deem evil even if they've done some "good." Especially when it clearly wasn't an accident.
First, I can hardly imagine a feasible scenario where I would withhold money from a company as punishment for a past action.
Every action becomes a past action. They don't magically change just because of that. Well done, though. It's no surprise companies can get away with what they do with so many apathetic people running around. It's no surprise they can get away with what they do with so many people who only care about themselves ("Well, they may have ripped other people off, but not me... yet!") running around.
DRMStation 4, the very recent removal of OtherOS, rootkits... even if they didn't rip me off personally, I'll never buy anything from them. They haven't changed a bit.
Even if it was shut down, they couldn't ever shut everything else down. There's simply too many websites. I guess they could shut down a few more websites if they eliminated all due process (which is, of course, a terrible idea, but not above them), but they still wouldn't get very far.
And yet, that belief of a better tomorrow is wholly irrational, yet critical for survival.
Critical for survival? Maybe for certain depressed people, but perhaps not for all. However, there is nothing irrational or illogical about thinking, "Things might get better tomorrow, and after that, I might feel a lot better." That simply acknowledges a possibility. And, indeed, it is possible. Whether it's worth sticking around to see if that possibility becomes reality is up for them to decide. But I don't think it's "magical thinking."
Magical thinking does not mean stupidity
Then let's stop calling it magical thinking. As we've already seen, many people seem to be interpreting it to mean deities and conventional magic.
What ends up happening is that pop skeptics become so unendurable socially
Unendurable to certain people, you mean.
Again, I don't claim to be infallible to this in any way.
That has nothing to do with trying to be so politically correct that you make an effort to make sure that even the most oversensitive people are not offended (impossible). I don't know where this "I have a right to not be offended" nonsense came from, but I don't like it. Whoever is getting offended at mere jokes and the like--whether they are white, black, female, male, etc--I just don't care.
People could be offended by anything. Absolutely anything. I'm not going to change just because of that. That's simply not a world I want to live in.
Not all of us want to hear every second sentence punctuated with obscenities
I think you'll find it difficult to get everyone to agree on anything. If you expect no one to be offended, then that is just a pipe dream. I'm not going to change my way of speaking just because someone can't take a joke/is oversensitive.
A bit oversensitive, are we? Seriously, that was most likely a joke. Or, most likely, the truth. He was probably stating that it's unlikely that there are many woman that would do that. Whatever his intentions were, I highly doubt he has a problem with women.
Stop trying so hard to be politically correct; it's nonsense.
What do I propose? It won't happen, but I wish they'd stop wasting manpower and taxpayer dollars going after copyright infringers. As for what they should do now, they could just let people download the data but not upload anything.
I'm tired of copyright infringement being treated like it's a national security emergency when it's, in reality, less of a problem than jaywalking. The police should never be involved with this shit.
Wait... so they want to harm everyone, even innocents, because someone could download copyrighted material? Even if it was the same person that put it there to begin with (and thus already have it)? They sure do love collective punishment.
Believing you are infallible and immune to this IS magical thinking.
Is believing you can read minds magical thinking? You know, if you just define everything to be X, then it's pretty difficult to get away from X. Your conclusion will be pretty difficult to disprove. This is the case here. Absolutely everything is being defined as "magical thinking." Including ridiculous things like figures of speech.
I don't know if I'm "infallible" to "magical thinking," but I don't like the "I can read your mind" vibe I'm getting from some comments here.
It's completely true if you define everything as magical thinking. Emotions? Magical thinking. Figures of speech? Magical thinking. Jokes? Magical thinking. Not believing you're trapped in the Matrix? Magical thinking! See? It's true!
Nope. I've said things like that even when I had no confidence that they're true. Sometimes it's just a way to insult someone. Has nothing to do with faith or intuition.
Why would we ever extradite someone just because they helped someone else copy something? Where are our priorities? We gain nothing and lose much from wasting our time on such trivial nonsense.
What is your risk/probability level you're comfortable with?
When it's highly unlikely. I still drive cars and ride planes.
But hey, it's only a few lives, right? Can't be that inconvenient if some kids die on my watch
I like how you mention children as if that would change my response. "For the children!"
If you want to cower in fear of every unlikely threat, go ahead, but you're probably not going to convince me to do the same. I heard there would be an alien invasion soon...
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if you haven't actually DONE what you are preaching that others should, then it doesn't work like you think it will.
Oh? So even if your conclusion is actually correct, it is wrong simply because you haven't experienced it being true yet? How does that work?
Great. This is another problem with the educational system. Rather than encouraging free thinking, it encourages absolute obedience to authority. Don't question authority! They could never be wrong! I experienced this many times when I was in school.
Shut up and memorize this information for a test! Rote memorization is the best way to learn and understand the world around you!
Life as an angry butt-hurt nerd
Well, sorry for caring if other people get ripped off. Sorry for actually taking into account the past (and future, as is the case with their continuing support of DRM) actions of companies I buy from. I won't let them get away with things I deem evil even if they've done some "good." Especially when it clearly wasn't an accident.
First, I can hardly imagine a feasible scenario where I would withhold money from a company as punishment for a past action.
Every action becomes a past action. They don't magically change just because of that. Well done, though. It's no surprise companies can get away with what they do with so many apathetic people running around. It's no surprise they can get away with what they do with so many people who only care about themselves ("Well, they may have ripped other people off, but not me... yet!") running around.
DRMStation 4, the very recent removal of OtherOS, rootkits... even if they didn't rip me off personally, I'll never buy anything from them. They haven't changed a bit.
Even if it was shut down, they couldn't ever shut everything else down. There's simply too many websites. I guess they could shut down a few more websites if they eliminated all due process (which is, of course, a terrible idea, but not above them), but they still wouldn't get very far.
You have a whole culture of hundreds of millions of people make individually-innocent jokes and it has systemic consequences.
Yeah. People making individually innocent jokes.
there's no need to get defensive.
Wasn't.
His real crime is repeating a joke we've all heard a million times now.
Not everyone has, and not everyone doesn't find it funny.
The latter.
And yet, that belief of a better tomorrow is wholly irrational, yet critical for survival.
Critical for survival? Maybe for certain depressed people, but perhaps not for all. However, there is nothing irrational or illogical about thinking, "Things might get better tomorrow, and after that, I might feel a lot better." That simply acknowledges a possibility. And, indeed, it is possible. Whether it's worth sticking around to see if that possibility becomes reality is up for them to decide. But I don't think it's "magical thinking."
Magical thinking does not mean stupidity
Then let's stop calling it magical thinking. As we've already seen, many people seem to be interpreting it to mean deities and conventional magic.
What ends up happening is that pop skeptics become so unendurable socially
Unendurable to certain people, you mean.
Again, I don't claim to be infallible to this in any way.
That has nothing to do with trying to be so politically correct that you make an effort to make sure that even the most oversensitive people are not offended (impossible). I don't know where this "I have a right to not be offended" nonsense came from, but I don't like it. Whoever is getting offended at mere jokes and the like--whether they are white, black, female, male, etc--I just don't care.
People could be offended by anything. Absolutely anything. I'm not going to change just because of that. That's simply not a world I want to live in.
Not all of us want to hear every second sentence punctuated with obscenities
I think you'll find it difficult to get everyone to agree on anything. If you expect no one to be offended, then that is just a pipe dream. I'm not going to change my way of speaking just because someone can't take a joke/is oversensitive.
No one has a right to not be offended.
A bit oversensitive, are we? Seriously, that was most likely a joke. Or, most likely, the truth. He was probably stating that it's unlikely that there are many woman that would do that. Whatever his intentions were, I highly doubt he has a problem with women.
Stop trying so hard to be politically correct; it's nonsense.
What do I propose? It won't happen, but I wish they'd stop wasting manpower and taxpayer dollars going after copyright infringers. As for what they should do now, they could just let people download the data but not upload anything.
I'm tired of copyright infringement being treated like it's a national security emergency when it's, in reality, less of a problem than jaywalking. The police should never be involved with this shit.
Wait... so they want to harm everyone, even innocents, because someone could download copyrighted material? Even if it was the same person that put it there to begin with (and thus already have it)? They sure do love collective punishment.
In my experience, only people who are under a permanent state of self-delusion believe they never have irrational thoughts.
I don't think there are many that would claim that.
I think most people here object to the term "magical thinking."
Like the flying spaghetti monster!
I also think people are misunderstanding what they mean by 'magical thinking'
And you can't exactly blame them. "Magical thinking," to me, usually means magic and deities.
It doesn't matter wether or not you conciously belive your pet rock or your car has a personality
I think that matters quite a bit. Especially when you label it "magical thinking."
This article did a pretty poor job of explaining it and used strange terms.
Believing you are infallible and immune to this IS magical thinking.
Is believing you can read minds magical thinking? You know, if you just define everything to be X, then it's pretty difficult to get away from X. Your conclusion will be pretty difficult to disprove. This is the case here. Absolutely everything is being defined as "magical thinking." Including ridiculous things like figures of speech.
I don't know if I'm "infallible" to "magical thinking," but I don't like the "I can read your mind" vibe I'm getting from some comments here.
Not good! I've got to throw it out and spend thousands on the most expensive one that I can find so I can use Microsoft Office and play Solitaire!
It's completely true if you define everything as magical thinking. Emotions? Magical thinking. Figures of speech? Magical thinking. Jokes? Magical thinking. Not believing you're trapped in the Matrix? Magical thinking! See? It's true!
Nope. I've said things like that even when I had no confidence that they're true. Sometimes it's just a way to insult someone. Has nothing to do with faith or intuition.
I say "Oh God" when I'm having sex
So... never?
Why would we ever extradite someone just because they helped someone else copy something? Where are our priorities? We gain nothing and lose much from wasting our time on such trivial nonsense.
Given the number of successful flights, how is that not unlikely? Which country? And if the 'solution' TSA, I'll have none of that.
What is your risk/probability level you're comfortable with?
When it's highly unlikely. I still drive cars and ride planes.
But hey, it's only a few lives, right? Can't be that inconvenient if some kids die on my watch
I like how you mention children as if that would change my response. "For the children!"
If you want to cower in fear of every unlikely threat, go ahead, but you're probably not going to convince me to do the same. I heard there would be an alien invasion soon...
I guess you haven't heard of the "beating women" subreddits
I don't really believe in thought crimes. What are they?