We did a study in the P2P group at Stanford two months ago... with pretty interesting results. Kazaa (as monitored through a Morpheus client gateway) consistently topped out at over 50 terabytes of data and peeked at just over 1.1 million active clients. It's becoming truly ubiquitous, and it's growth rates (in terms of both users and size) indicate that they will be the unquestionable king of P2P in short order.
It's pretty clear that it's a big part of the reason they're being targetted by the BSA, RIAA, etc. currently... I can only hope that University research into these things doesn't fuel the corporate interests backing the anti-P2P movement.
Not really. Hence the analogous term "pipe"... the key is the infrastructure maintenance, not the complexity. Keeping wires open to IP and packet transmission, if anything, is easier than regulating water. To counter your specific point, we're not talkign about keepingcomputers running here, we're talking about keeping Internet pipes available to users (homes, businesses, etc.).
A lot of local water boards are actually private or semi-private, but they're still government regulated and/or subsidized. If you think only private citizens can sink cables, then fine. I'll pay taxes to pay you to lay the pipes.
Don't care. It's not hard, it's just costly and driven by profits.
If water were this way, people in Wyoming wouldn't drink. Think, don't just jerk your knees.
That's not the point. When's the last time your "water provider" went out of business? When's the last time you could get access to water because you weren't in the coverage area?
Sometimes monopolies are good. I'm all for free trade and competition, but don't be blind to the virtues of a solid system of regulated monopoly that's worked for generations just because sometimes you fall for hyper-capitalist rhetoric.
I think @home going dark could be a really good thing. The ensuing clamor might be enough to motivate the gubment to monopolize Internet provision and bring it to everyone for a reasonable fee. Monopolies work for water, power, and sewage (to some extent), so why not Internet access? Bridge the rich-poor gap and bring the Internet to everyone. Monopolize it and make it reliable.
I'm a Windows user at home, a Solaris user at the University, and about the farthest thing from a linux zealot that there is. I can't say that I have much passion about my OSes. It's just not something I can get riled up about.
However, this decision sets a new standard for abuse and irony. My wife's a worker's compensation attorney, so I get stories of liars and shenanigans in courts every day. It's never anything close to this, however.
The settlement is supposed to punish Microsoft for abusive practices, but actually rewards them greatly:
1. No real cash payment - they "charge themselves" for software, rather than paying penalties. win.
2. Cash from the US government - that same self-charge comes as a business expense and a loss against an MS business division, thus it is treated as a TAX WRITE-OFF. The write-off value is far greater than the charge, thus they MAKE money on balance.
3. The schools - Schools are one place alternatives still ahve penetration. (They used to be the bastion of Apple...)
4. The children - Lo', the children! In the silliest irony of all, the sacrifice one monopoly for bringing MS products to the schools. These guys make Big Tobacco look good.
5. Perception - The public will see this as an overture to help those same children, thus improving the MS image.
In the end, Microsoft wins at every turn. How could this settlement possibly have come about? There is literally no aspect of punishment at all. Microsoft even makes money on the deal.
Parting from the on-line dinosaur the oldest on-line service of Germany, the T-Online forerunner interactive videotext (VTX), is closed to 1 December.
" I am particularly pleased that this premiere in Berlin can take place, the city, in which before 100 years the introduction of the telephone began ", was pleased Federal Ministers of Post and Telecommunications Kurt Gscheidle during the international radio exhibition 1977. He had attended a world premiere, whose effects at that time still nobody could foresee in the August-hot halls under the radio tower: The Federal Postal Administration presented the interactive videotext (VTX) and opened thereby first only for a small set of selected users the on-line age in Germany.
1980 started a larger field test originally than interactive videotex of the conceived service with in each case 2000 users in Berlin and Duesseldorf. The technical equipment, which smoothed the way well two decades ago into the world of the country wide data network, consisted of a BTX decoder for the television, tormenting a slow modem and a keyboard. In few weeks VTX is now an final section of German on-line history. At the end of November the country wide 01910-Einwahlzugaenge are cut. Nostalgiker find thereafter only over a special issue and at gepfefferten prices to end of 2001 an acces, before T-Online switches off its BTX Zugangsknoten finally.
" it is not worthwhile itself for us no more to let the platform continue ever fewer customer ", says Telekom speaker Ulrich Lissek in Bonn, which belonged once even with its Atari to the generation of the BTX pioneers. Seven years after the start surften already 95,600 VTX user by the network, in the year of the wall case counted the Telekom 195,000 members of the on-line municipality. The break-through for VTX came in the middle of the 90's, after also a first hakeliger Internet acces became possible over the BTX platform and enamels could be exchanged over the boundaries of the closed user group away. The BTX guest Internet ate his host quite fast. Today T-Online in Germany counts 5.6 million customer. " only some thousands use of it the old BTX technique ", say Lissek.
Navigation in the on-line service was made similarly as at that time with the Microsoft operating system DOS by a number of kryptischer keyboard instructions. In each case between an asterisk and a lozenge character were to be indicated an instruction or after the model of the telephone network a page number. The first forms of the e-Commerce decrease/go back on VTX. Goods orders and for instance the attendance of expensive Erotik services were paid over the phone bill, which led again and again because of some windy Abzocker to legal arguments. Publishing houses opened liable to pay the costs their professional data bases, large distributing houses belonged to the BTX pioneers. Main application was however the on-line Banking very safe because of the closed user set.
Legal basis of the BTX service was originally a convention, which set and differently than to Internet an anonymous use excluded high hurdles for the acces. Who wanted to place a supply like today to Internet homepage into the network, first a aufwaendige permission procedure had to pass through. Also the use with basic charges of eight Marks per month presupposed a complicated registration procedure. Additionally relatively high telephone and BTX fees resulted.
VTX, 1977 of a working group in the post office Ministry still as " people teleprocessing system " planned, was also the base for first on-line-chops in Germany. Under still disputed circumstances it succeeded 1984 to a Aktionistem of the chaos computer club, Wau Holland, to use a safety gap. In the hay width unit journal of the ZDF it demonstrated, as ineffective a bank assault is in the comparison to the on-line tapped account. This brought the industry in sweating, helped however not against the largest Handicap of the text service: the absence of any pictures. Not only Hermann bricklayer, executive committee of institute for computer science at the University of Graz, had at that time granted VTX for the start because of a " peculiar backspace of the television to remote reading " no realistic chance of survival. 20 years later on-line history gives it right.
Sadly, a terminal server doesn't work anything like a remote invocation where the interface is viewed via X. (FYI, I run PCA on all my Windows boxen.) Terminal servers give you a literally view of the remote screen, nothing more. This creates a transmission bottleneck, in that you have to send tonnes of data. It also prevents the wife from compiling her latest kernel release while you're trying to run Xtroids. Like I said, it's a pain that AtheOS will have to eventually outgrow, and as you've reminded us, Windows still hasn't gotten it right.
I've always found the AtheOS approach an intriguing one, and quite reminiscent of Windows. They build and optimize for the GUI, rather than the command-line kernel with a GUI built on top (like an X11 + *NIX approach).
It seems that one of the real growing pains for AtheOS is going to be that it's difficult to capture anything but local desktop users. It's not a good model for remote display; just like Windows.
At the end of the day, I think it'll be a great desktop OS, but it will have the same growing pains that Windows did with remote display and cross-platfrom compatibility.
Anyone can explain to me what is suddenly so wrong about relational database with hierarchical indexing?
Maybe its just me, but the goal today is integration and having a special database for XML and special database for this and that just because its faster for this particular problem creates such a level of complexity, which prevents accomplishing even of the most trivial tasks.
Forgive me for tooting my own horn on this one, but I believe that (for once on/.) there is a correct answer.
I summarize the answer in a paper written for VLDB 2001 (www.vldb.org). The paper presents joint work between Stanford, Berkeley, and RightOrder, Inc. It can be found online here (in PDF).
What we found is that relational systems, with appropriate indexes for XML data, give the advantages of both worlds. XML is a hierarchical representation in only the loosest sense. It's written linearly in a flat text document, just as a child learns to write things down on a piece of paper. However, you wouldn't convince anyone but that same child that something written on paper can only represent two-dimensional objects just because the paper itself is flat. XML in many variants is plainly richer in concept than its simple hierarchical representation and thus quite suited to ER. I believe a previous poster mention RDF... a perfect example.
Punchline: XML is neat, XML is tasty, but XML is not inherently more or less expressive than ER; it just requires a little critical thinking (and index tweaking) to tune ER engines to deal with it. (Once tuned, the ER engines dominate all others in performance.)
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It's pretty clear that it's a big part of the reason they're being targetted by the BSA, RIAA, etc. currently... I can only hope that University research into these things doesn't fuel the corporate interests backing the anti-P2P movement.
...will definitely give Picard an advantage over the Borg.
A lot of local water boards are actually private or semi-private, but they're still government regulated and/or subsidized. If you think only private citizens can sink cables, then fine. I'll pay taxes to pay you to lay the pipes.
Don't care. It's not hard, it's just costly and driven by profits.
If water were this way, people in Wyoming wouldn't drink. Think, don't just jerk your knees.
Sometimes monopolies are good. I'm all for free trade and competition, but don't be blind to the virtues of a solid system of regulated monopoly that's worked for generations just because sometimes you fall for hyper-capitalist rhetoric.
I think @home going dark could be a really good thing. The ensuing clamor might be enough to motivate the gubment to monopolize Internet provision and bring it to everyone for a reasonable fee. Monopolies work for water, power, and sewage (to some extent), so why not Internet access? Bridge the rich-poor gap and bring the Internet to everyone. Monopolize it and make it reliable.
However, this decision sets a new standard for abuse and irony. My wife's a worker's compensation attorney, so I get stories of liars and shenanigans in courts every day. It's never anything close to this, however.
The settlement is supposed to punish Microsoft for abusive practices, but actually rewards them greatly:
1. No real cash payment - they "charge themselves" for software, rather than paying penalties. win.
2. Cash from the US government - that same self-charge comes as a business expense and a loss against an MS business division, thus it is treated as a TAX WRITE-OFF. The write-off value is far greater than the charge, thus they MAKE money on balance.
3. The schools - Schools are one place alternatives still ahve penetration. (They used to be the bastion of Apple...)
4. The children - Lo', the children! In the silliest irony of all, the sacrifice one monopoly for bringing MS products to the schools. These guys make Big Tobacco look good.
5. Perception - The public will see this as an overture to help those same children, thus improving the MS image.
In the end, Microsoft wins at every turn. How could this settlement possibly have come about? There is literally no aspect of punishment at all. Microsoft even makes money on the deal.
This is a sad day for our courts.
Parting from the on-line dinosaur the oldest on-line service of Germany, the T-Online forerunner interactive videotext (VTX), is closed to 1 December.
" I am particularly pleased that this premiere in Berlin can take place, the city, in which before 100 years the introduction of the telephone began ", was pleased Federal Ministers of Post and Telecommunications Kurt Gscheidle during the international radio exhibition 1977. He had attended a world premiere, whose effects at that time still nobody could foresee in the August-hot halls under the radio tower: The Federal Postal Administration presented the interactive videotext (VTX) and opened thereby first only for a small set of selected users the on-line age in Germany.
1980 started a larger field test originally than interactive videotex of the conceived service with in each case 2000 users in Berlin and Duesseldorf. The technical equipment, which smoothed the way well two decades ago into the world of the country wide data network, consisted of a BTX decoder for the television, tormenting a slow modem and a keyboard. In few weeks VTX is now an final section of German on-line history. At the end of November the country wide 01910-Einwahlzugaenge are cut. Nostalgiker find thereafter only over a special issue and at gepfefferten prices to end of 2001 an acces, before T-Online switches off its BTX Zugangsknoten finally.
" it is not worthwhile itself for us no more to let the platform continue ever fewer customer ", says Telekom speaker Ulrich Lissek in Bonn, which belonged once even with its Atari to the generation of the BTX pioneers. Seven years after the start surften already 95,600 VTX user by the network, in the year of the wall case counted the Telekom 195,000 members of the on-line municipality. The break-through for VTX came in the middle of the 90's, after also a first hakeliger Internet acces became possible over the BTX platform and enamels could be exchanged over the boundaries of the closed user group away. The BTX guest Internet ate his host quite fast. Today T-Online in Germany counts 5.6 million customer. " only some thousands use of it the old BTX technique ", say Lissek.
Navigation in the on-line service was made similarly as at that time with the Microsoft operating system DOS by a number of kryptischer keyboard instructions. In each case between an asterisk and a lozenge character were to be indicated an instruction or after the model of the telephone network a page number. The first forms of the e-Commerce decrease/go back on VTX. Goods orders and for instance the attendance of expensive Erotik services were paid over the phone bill, which led again and again because of some windy Abzocker to legal arguments. Publishing houses opened liable to pay the costs their professional data bases, large distributing houses belonged to the BTX pioneers. Main application was however the on-line Banking very safe because of the closed user set.
Legal basis of the BTX service was originally a convention, which set and differently than to Internet an anonymous use excluded high hurdles for the acces. Who wanted to place a supply like today to Internet homepage into the network, first a aufwaendige permission procedure had to pass through. Also the use with basic charges of eight Marks per month presupposed a complicated registration procedure. Additionally relatively high telephone and BTX fees resulted.
VTX, 1977 of a working group in the post office Ministry still as " people teleprocessing system " planned, was also the base for first on-line-chops in Germany. Under still disputed circumstances it succeeded 1984 to a Aktionistem of the chaos computer club, Wau Holland, to use a safety gap. In the hay width unit journal of the ZDF it demonstrated, as ineffective a bank assault is in the comparison to the on-line tapped account. This brought the industry in sweating, helped however not against the largest Handicap of the text service: the absence of any pictures. Not only Hermann bricklayer, executive committee of institute for computer science at the University of Graz, had at that time granted VTX for the start because of a " peculiar backspace of the television to remote reading " no realistic chance of survival. 20 years later on-line history gives it right.
Sadly, a terminal server doesn't work anything like a remote invocation where the interface is viewed via X. (FYI, I run PCA on all my Windows boxen.) Terminal servers give you a literally view of the remote screen, nothing more. This creates a transmission bottleneck, in that you have to send tonnes of data. It also prevents the wife from compiling her latest kernel release while you're trying to run Xtroids. Like I said, it's a pain that AtheOS will have to eventually outgrow, and as you've reminded us, Windows still hasn't gotten it right.
I've always found the AtheOS approach an intriguing one, and quite reminiscent of Windows. They build and optimize for the GUI, rather than the command-line kernel with a GUI built on top (like an X11 + *NIX approach).
It seems that one of the real growing pains for AtheOS is going to be that it's difficult to capture anything but local desktop users. It's not a good model for remote display; just like Windows.
At the end of the day, I think it'll be a great desktop OS, but it will have the same growing pains that Windows did with remote display and cross-platfrom compatibility.
Anyone can explain to me what is suddenly so wrong about relational database with hierarchical indexing?
/.) there is a correct answer.
Maybe its just me, but the goal today is integration and having a special database for XML and special database for this and that just because its faster for this particular problem creates such a level of complexity, which prevents accomplishing even of the most trivial tasks.
Forgive me for tooting my own horn on this one, but I believe that (for once on
I summarize the answer in a paper written for VLDB 2001 (www.vldb.org). The paper presents joint work between Stanford, Berkeley, and RightOrder, Inc. It can be found online here (in PDF).
What we found is that relational systems, with appropriate indexes for XML data, give the advantages of both worlds. XML is a hierarchical representation in only the loosest sense. It's written linearly in a flat text document, just as a child learns to write things down on a piece of paper. However, you wouldn't convince anyone but that same child that something written on paper can only represent two-dimensional objects just because the paper itself is flat. XML in many variants is plainly richer in concept than its simple hierarchical representation and thus quite suited to ER. I believe a previous poster mention RDF... a perfect example.
Punchline: XML is neat, XML is tasty, but XML is not inherently more or less expressive than ER; it just requires a little critical thinking (and index tweaking) to tune ER engines to deal with it. (Once tuned, the ER engines dominate all others in performance.)
Thank gawd the Romans were smart enough to know that the Hindus had zero... and lived a lot closer.