I've used IE on WinCE, and Opera on Nokias and Blackberries... I have to say that while they are better than the other browsers (like Nokia's own and Blackberry's own), they are nothing compared to the iPhone's browser. Having web pages rendered like they are on your computer should be standard on phones now, not a feature only available on one phone.
Everyone I know has a phone that can do email, and GMail is available for some of the older Nokias too. Anyway, if I'm taking a photo and want a friend to see it, it'll go directly to Flickr, Facebook or TwitPic. I wouldn't want to email it to someone or MMS it. And my Blackberry handes that just fine. No iPhone required there:-)
I'd argue the main reason they'd be going out of business is falling behind the times. Central repositories of apps that are easy to find and just take a couple of clicks to install is where we're at.
Do you think there's no way InstallShield can embrace this? Perhaps they should be looking into ways to make it work for them if they want to be around by the time Windows 7's successor is released.
Many apps use the rendering engine. The browser is a fairly simple program that hosts one or more MSHTML controls. There is no reason that we should be unable to remove that program.
Equally, I can remove Safari from my Mac, but the Webkit rendering engine is still there, since many other things use it (iTunes, Adobe Air...).
Why on earth would people want to remove a shared component that the OS and 3rd party apps rely on?
Removing the browser breaks nothing on either platform. Removing DLLs and shared objects from system folders does.
Ideally, you'd be sent to an app-store and be shown what browsers are available for you to install with a couple of clicks. I can't believe this doesn't exist yet. I can't see something like Aptitude working on Windows, but an app-store like the iPhone one would work fine.
I stated that I was listing the details for the fully-featured offerings. The $80 RHEL is their 'Basic' option. I don't know anyone who uses that.
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I read that a:
That's the place where the T-Rex ambushed you in the middle of an open plain whenever you were going in the opposite direction from what the DRM wanted you to go.
It used to be. For the last couple of years, setting up a basic Ubuntu system has been a matter of booting from the CD, double-clicking Install, and pressing OK on the dialogs that appear.
The hardest thing you'll have to do is choose which partition to install to (if the default isn't the one you want).
I agree 100% with you on getting the LDAP and similar stuff packaged up in a nice way. It was a bit tricky to configure last time I tried.
Based on fully-featured offerings with cheapest support package.
A lot of non-technical people want to be able to call their vendor when something breaks and have them fix it. This a different market from where Debian, Gentoo, at al fit in.
The law being broken is not one about software. It existed long before Microsoft did. If they break it, then perhaps they deserved to have restrictions forced upon them.
What? Let them keep breaking the law? That doesn't sound like a good idea. Something needs to be done about it, but the options you mention certainly don't sound like the best solution (or implementation of that solution).
My Linux vendor isn't my only source of apps. And I would expect Microsoft to have something similar to the iPhone app store, but for Windows software. As the GP said, it would help get round problems like this one, and it would be an extra source of revenue. Not to mention convenient for customers.
This is definitely a big deal, and it's pretty good timing too for Citrix. I bet this has got VMWare rushing to re-think some of what's going on tomorrow at VMWorld.
We currently use VMWare's solution, but will be having a serious look at this option as a way of cutting costs.
I've not had any performance issues, and I'd rather have simplicity over features. In fact, it probably has many features I don't use. I suspect a lot of people like simplicity over features when it comes to something like an MP3 player.
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Got any examples?
http://twitter.com/public_timeline
Although it looks like about 75% of users are using the API.
I've used IE on WinCE, and Opera on Nokias and Blackberries... I have to say that while they are better than the other browsers (like Nokia's own and Blackberry's own), they are nothing compared to the iPhone's browser. Having web pages rendered like they are on your computer should be standard on phones now, not a feature only available on one phone.
I'm a geek, you insensitive clod. The gadgets I buy are major lifestyle choices :-)
Yes, they do. My local Borders has it.
Everyone I know has a phone that can do email, and GMail is available for some of the older Nokias too. Anyway, if I'm taking a photo and want a friend to see it, it'll go directly to Flickr, Facebook or TwitPic. I wouldn't want to email it to someone or MMS it. And my Blackberry handes that just fine. No iPhone required there :-)
I'd argue the main reason they'd be going out of business is falling behind the times. Central repositories of apps that are easy to find and just take a couple of clicks to install is where we're at.
Do you think there's no way InstallShield can embrace this? Perhaps they should be looking into ways to make it work for them if they want to be around by the time Windows 7's successor is released.
To clear this up a bit...
IE is the browser
MSHTML is the rendering engine
Many apps use the rendering engine. The browser is a fairly simple program that hosts one or more MSHTML controls. There is no reason that we should be unable to remove that program.
Equally, I can remove Safari from my Mac, but the Webkit rendering engine is still there, since many other things use it (iTunes, Adobe Air...).
Why on earth would people want to remove a shared component that the OS and 3rd party apps rely on?
Removing the browser breaks nothing on either platform. Removing DLLs and shared objects from system folders does.
Ideally, you'd be sent to an app-store and be shown what browsers are available for you to install with a couple of clicks. I can't believe this doesn't exist yet. I can't see something like Aptitude working on Windows, but an app-store like the iPhone one would work fine.
But after your $179 you get to keep the software.
Pay again after the 1st year if you want another year of support with 2 business day response times.
I stated that I was listing the details for the fully-featured offerings. The $80 RHEL is their 'Basic' option. I don't know anyone who uses that.
I read that a:
It used to be. For the last couple of years, setting up a basic Ubuntu system has been a matter of booting from the CD, double-clicking Install, and pressing OK on the dialogs that appear.
The hardest thing you'll have to do is choose which partition to install to (if the default isn't the one you want).
I agree 100% with you on getting the LDAP and similar stuff packaged up in a nice way. It was a bit tricky to configure last time I tried.
OS X is $106.99.
Vista is $235.95.
Redhat RHEL is $179
Based on fully-featured offerings with cheapest support package.
A lot of non-technical people want to be able to call their vendor when something breaks and have them fix it. This a different market from where Debian, Gentoo, at al fit in.
Ubuntu did releases for PPC architecture machines (old Macs). New Macs are just PCs with some extra BIOS-y kind of stuff added.
Unless it involves breaking the law.
The law being broken is not one about software. It existed long before Microsoft did. If they break it, then perhaps they deserved to have restrictions forced upon them.
What? Let them keep breaking the law? That doesn't sound like a good idea. Something needs to be done about it, but the options you mention certainly don't sound like the best solution (or implementation of that solution).
My Linux vendor isn't my only source of apps. And I would expect Microsoft to have something similar to the iPhone app store, but for Windows software. As the GP said, it would help get round problems like this one, and it would be an extra source of revenue. Not to mention convenient for customers.
Why would that happen? It doesn't seem at all related to this case.
Perhaps not, but in that case they'll soon find out what being sued is.
It encrypts the communication so that "Bob" at the RIAA can't see what you're copying by looking at network packets.
At least that's what the summary says to me.
This is definitely a big deal, and it's pretty good timing too for Citrix. I bet this has got VMWare rushing to re-think some of what's going on tomorrow at VMWorld.
We currently use VMWare's solution, but will be having a serious look at this option as a way of cutting costs.
I've not had any performance issues, and I'd rather have simplicity over features. In fact, it probably has many features I don't use. I suspect a lot of people like simplicity over features when it comes to something like an MP3 player.