What I've observed is that users rarely pick a device for it's security. They pick it for MP of the camera, the name, the app availability, the screen size, the storage size... But never security. Just my personal experience.
It's not malware. Go read up on the definition of malware. You're are miss using the word. I would probably accept adware but malware is a completely different creature. It's ok for you to hate some company or a product but you should at bare minimum remain objective and use facts instead of whatever BS comes to mind.
Windows 7 computer that's been running 200+ days straight.
That's the problem right there. No drivers or OS updates and you went straight to 10... come on dude. (I'm being playful in case you didn't get it).
Not all installs went perfect and MS was available at no charge to assist via chat and forums. For those still having access to their free call they could call in and get support until the incident was resolved. People make it sound much worst than it really is because they overreact to inconvenience or to what they don't understand.
Well sir, you have managed to be the black sheep. You and the 12 others remaining should have a meet and greet.:)))
I haven't see a modern board with floppy support in at least 5 years. USB floppy drives are impossible to find in retail stores.
But honestly, if you need a floppy drive I would think just any other hardware other than the one you actually use day to day will do the job. We too have really old hardware that requires floppies in time of troubleshooting (once in a blue moon).
So MS did good by removing old support which was needed by less than 0.001% of it's user base.
And no version of a Microsoft OS has stopped malware
What does that even mean? MS has thousands of security patches to avoid holes from being exploited for Trojan, malware and adware purposes. Same goes for iOS and Linux.
BTW, malware can be obtained outside of ads in case you didn't know.
I totally get that. MS only downloads if the machine is idle. My personal experience confirms this for me. Most people also have automatic updates setup so they are already obtaining a number of updates automatically (multiple gigs worth after every big office update). So where's the line? At what point can a company start assuming something?
Why do we treat software different than home appliances? After all it's how users want their computers to work. Did the new appliance you just install ask you before consuming electricity to remain in standby mode? Did the application ask you before performing self maintenance?
MS Should not spam any users and that's an obvious F*** Up. I hope they put their thinking helmet on and fix that ASAP.
I agree w/ this, but I do think that Windows 10 should not be forced on people who are happy w/ either Windows 7 or 8.x.
I agree. I wasn't trying to say that the spamming was acceptable by any means. I just came upon a Windows 7 machine a work that is having this issue.
Enough of that, and you'll see more people either buying Macs, or switching to other things, like ChromeBook, Android, et al.
I'm only willing to believe this to a degree. MAC has no real entry level pricing and I can't tell you how often people come to me with a budget under $700 CAD which is nothing if you looking at Apple products. As for the rest well it depends what they want to do. Humans in nature pick the safe options and MS is a safe options because everyone and your uncle can support or at least assist. Corporate and enterprise is very different as their options are even further limited if they work with existing MS software or need compatibility with other companies that operate in MS. There's still a huge number productivity applications not available in Linux
You are correct. I cannot argue that but I was just stating that to me it wasn't a hard transition. Some of the issues you started I encountered but they have since been fixed for my system.
Not all advertising, malware and spyware is stopped by these addons. In addition I'm a bit of a purist (That's just me). If someone is willing to cripple their website or web service with that garbage, then I don't have time for it and will find a better one. More people just take that approach instead of this PATCH that is the ad blockers.
First off, the download was 3GB last I checked. Second, I really don't think the bandwidth consumption is the biggest issue here. Invasion of the user interface is far more aggravating to most users. If it was only for the bandwidth I'd say no big deal. Anybody running on less than 5% disk space has bigger issues than this.
And don't take me wrong. I'm not saying it's not wrong but the average/. user most probably runs torrents, Netflix or some other form of high bandwidth software. Those 3GB of download are a drop in the bucket.
Being a big user of MS products this news is very disappointing to me.
IMO there are things far worst than the nagging MS is doing such as web site popup advertising, malware, spyware. Just so were clear, I'm not in agreement with their methods assuming the article and other comments are accurate. I personally didn't experience this because I moved to Windows 10 within 3 months of launch.
I use Windows 10 on a professional and personal level. I don't see a problem with adapting at all. If anything moving to 10 was something I hesitated to do and once I did all computers HAD to be moved over. I have yet to complain about anything but Edge.
I'm still amazed that a system like this was accessible remotely. I know people that work for Hydro Quebec and they tell me the controls are 100% offline.
What is it with US politics. Do these people actually go out there and actually talk to real people. Is the fear mongering that effective that people are actually wanting this?
All this talk of spending more in surveillance and military makes me sick. Education is where money needs to be spent. Local infrastructure, innovation...
The only surveillance I would approve of is the monitoring of our elected officials and how budgets are spent. THAT'S IT!
People reveal tones more information on social network so it would appear most people don't truly care about that kind of privacy.
and furthermore you have 'updates' forced on you
Do you know how many times I've heard end users say "why didn't it just do on it's own". That's why it's forced on you. There was an issue with Windows 10 being forced on you but not without your final approval. Get your facts straight. If you read only the headlines I can see how you believe that actually happened.
that effectively installs spyware and other malware on your computer, so they can collect very personal data anyway?
You like to embark on conspiracy theories. I tend to like understand what malware actually is before calling something malware.
Better get some counseling, friend, you've been brainwashed. Or are you a paid Shill for Microsoft?
I'm in charge of technology for the company I work for. I have picked the products that fit the needs of this company. MS runs all our workstations (no real choice there because of the software we use for engineering) hence the reason our servers are also MS. We use Linux were it is suited in our business. In our case all tablets meant for data collection run Linux with our home grown software. We also have products with micro processors that run Linux to control LEDs, relay actions and collect logs available through a slimed down version of a web server. So do I have a biased opinion? I'd say I chose technologies I knew well but didn't discriminate towards technologies I though were better fitting for certain projects.
What tells you Apple wouldn't be the next choice if MS wasn't there? I'm far more willing to believe Apple as a first option before Linux. I'm not trying to downplay the value of Linux but it has yet to prove itself as a platform for the masses when not "WELL CONTAINED" such as Android. Apple also reaps the rewards of containing it's OS in the hardware is chooses to. Linux is available in so many distributions that for someone that doesn't know better it's hard decision to make. The next issue is who do you call when you have OS issues? At the end of the day who is truly accountable for OS issues that need quick resolution? I'm not that close to the distributions themselves but my past experience showed that the community was the only place I could go and for many businesses that's not a valid option
I'm sure it's a feature coming in the future but like every challenge with copyright they need approval. The nice thing about Netflix is that they are now in a position to bully copyright holders.
Protecting an area that should be drone free is a better answer than any rules, regulations or bans they can come up with. Whether this truly is as effective as they claim is a whole other matter.
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What I've observed is that users rarely pick a device for it's security. They pick it for MP of the camera, the name, the app availability, the screen size, the storage size... But never security. Just my personal experience.
Security is an afterthought for most.
It's not malware. Go read up on the definition of malware. You're are miss using the word. I would probably accept adware but malware is a completely different creature. It's ok for you to hate some company or a product but you should at bare minimum remain objective and use facts instead of whatever BS comes to mind.
Windows 7 computer that's been running 200+ days straight.
That's the problem right there. No drivers or OS updates and you went straight to 10... come on dude. (I'm being playful in case you didn't get it).
Not all installs went perfect and MS was available at no charge to assist via chat and forums. For those still having access to their free call they could call in and get support until the incident was resolved. People make it sound much worst than it really is because they overreact to inconvenience or to what they don't understand.
Well sir, you have managed to be the black sheep. You and the 12 others remaining should have a meet and greet. :)))
I haven't see a modern board with floppy support in at least 5 years. USB floppy drives are impossible to find in retail stores.
But honestly, if you need a floppy drive I would think just any other hardware other than the one you actually use day to day will do the job. We too have really old hardware that requires floppies in time of troubleshooting (once in a blue moon).
So MS did good by removing old support which was needed by less than 0.001% of it's user base.
And no version of a Microsoft OS has stopped malware
What does that even mean? MS has thousands of security patches to avoid holes from being exploited for Trojan, malware and adware purposes. Same goes for iOS and Linux.
BTW, malware can be obtained outside of ads in case you didn't know.
There are benefits to that as long as MS plays fair.
But we don't live in a barbaric system. Your money is the only real voice and leverage you have.
I totally get that. MS only downloads if the machine is idle. My personal experience confirms this for me. Most people also have automatic updates setup so they are already obtaining a number of updates automatically (multiple gigs worth after every big office update). So where's the line? At what point can a company start assuming something?
Why do we treat software different than home appliances? After all it's how users want their computers to work. Did the new appliance you just install ask you before consuming electricity to remain in standby mode? Did the application ask you before performing self maintenance?
MS Should not spam any users and that's an obvious F*** Up. I hope they put their thinking helmet on and fix that ASAP.
I agree w/ this, but I do think that Windows 10 should not be forced on people who are happy w/ either Windows 7 or 8.x.
I agree. I wasn't trying to say that the spamming was acceptable by any means. I just came upon a Windows 7 machine a work that is having this issue.
Enough of that, and you'll see more people either buying Macs, or switching to other things, like ChromeBook, Android, et al.
I'm only willing to believe this to a degree. MAC has no real entry level pricing and I can't tell you how often people come to me with a budget under $700 CAD which is nothing if you looking at Apple products. As for the rest well it depends what they want to do. Humans in nature pick the safe options and MS is a safe options because everyone and your uncle can support or at least assist. Corporate and enterprise is very different as their options are even further limited if they work with existing MS software or need compatibility with other companies that operate in MS. There's still a huge number productivity applications not available in Linux
significant removal of features
WMC to me was a waste of time considering all the great Linux based solutions out there.
Many of the other features MS removed I though were just common sense like Floppy Drive Support.
You are correct. I cannot argue that but I was just stating that to me it wasn't a hard transition. Some of the issues you started I encountered but they have since been fixed for my system.
Not all advertising, malware and spyware is stopped by these addons. In addition I'm a bit of a purist (That's just me). If someone is willing to cripple their website or web service with that garbage, then I don't have time for it and will find a better one. More people just take that approach instead of this PATCH that is the ad blockers.
First off, the download was 3GB last I checked. Second, I really don't think the bandwidth consumption is the biggest issue here. Invasion of the user interface is far more aggravating to most users. If it was only for the bandwidth I'd say no big deal. Anybody running on less than 5% disk space has bigger issues than this.
And don't take me wrong. I'm not saying it's not wrong but the average /. user most probably runs torrents, Netflix or some other form of high bandwidth software. Those 3GB of download are a drop in the bucket.
Being a big user of MS products this news is very disappointing to me.
Why do you need Windows Media Center for the CableCard? Who would make a piece of hardware with no support for any other media software?
IMO there are things far worst than the nagging MS is doing such as web site popup advertising, malware, spyware. Just so were clear, I'm not in agreement with their methods assuming the article and other comments are accurate. I personally didn't experience this because I moved to Windows 10 within 3 months of launch.
I use Windows 10 on a professional and personal level. I don't see a problem with adapting at all. If anything moving to 10 was something I hesitated to do and once I did all computers HAD to be moved over. I have yet to complain about anything but Edge.
Can we agree that fear mongering and miss information is what drives this way of thinking?
This sets a great premise for Fast and Furious 8.
I'm still amazed that a system like this was accessible remotely. I know people that work for Hydro Quebec and they tell me the controls are 100% offline.
What is it with US politics. Do these people actually go out there and actually talk to real people. Is the fear mongering that effective that people are actually wanting this?
All this talk of spending more in surveillance and military makes me sick. Education is where money needs to be spent. Local infrastructure, innovation...
The only surveillance I would approve of is the monitoring of our elected officials and how budgets are spent. THAT'S IT!
I doubt their means to travel tell you how qualified or shady they are.
is collecting very much personalized data
People reveal tones more information on social network so it would appear most people don't truly care about that kind of privacy.
and furthermore you have 'updates' forced on you
Do you know how many times I've heard end users say "why didn't it just do on it's own". That's why it's forced on you. There was an issue with Windows 10 being forced on you but not without your final approval. Get your facts straight. If you read only the headlines I can see how you believe that actually happened.
that effectively installs spyware and other malware on your computer, so they can collect very personal data anyway?
You like to embark on conspiracy theories. I tend to like understand what malware actually is before calling something malware.
Better get some counseling, friend, you've been brainwashed. Or are you a paid Shill for Microsoft?
I'm in charge of technology for the company I work for. I have picked the products that fit the needs of this company. MS runs all our workstations (no real choice there because of the software we use for engineering) hence the reason our servers are also MS. We use Linux were it is suited in our business. In our case all tablets meant for data collection run Linux with our home grown software. We also have products with micro processors that run Linux to control LEDs, relay actions and collect logs available through a slimed down version of a web server. So do I have a biased opinion? I'd say I chose technologies I knew well but didn't discriminate towards technologies I though were better fitting for certain projects.
What tells you Apple wouldn't be the next choice if MS wasn't there? I'm far more willing to believe Apple as a first option before Linux. I'm not trying to downplay the value of Linux but it has yet to prove itself as a platform for the masses when not "WELL CONTAINED" such as Android. Apple also reaps the rewards of containing it's OS in the hardware is chooses to. Linux is available in so many distributions that for someone that doesn't know better it's hard decision to make. The next issue is who do you call when you have OS issues? At the end of the day who is truly accountable for OS issues that need quick resolution? I'm not that close to the distributions themselves but my past experience showed that the community was the only place I could go and for many businesses that's not a valid option
My 2 cents.
I'm sure it's a feature coming in the future but like every challenge with copyright they need approval. The nice thing about Netflix is that they are now in a position to bully copyright holders.
Protecting an area that should be drone free is a better answer than any rules, regulations or bans they can come up with. Whether this truly is as effective as they claim is a whole other matter.