It's not clear from the announcements whether the source code of the application itself, and not just the servers it runs on, will be publically available. Nevertheless, one is reminded of the argument of Peruvian congressman Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez (seen recently in Slashdot) that open source software enables citizens of a democracy to see for themselves whether the work of government, such as elections, is conducted as it should be.
It's clear from common sense that if the code to the platform is open source, but not the system itself then there is no way the citizens can see for themselves how the work is being conducted.
I believe its only a short time, maybe a year or four, before M$ doesn't have anything to do with network interoperability software, unless they change their policy.
And *I* believe its only a short time, maybe a year or four, before everyone except M$ doesn't have anything to do with network interoperability software, unless M$ change their policy.
And having a tape of this babysitter ass pounding your kid is going to do what exactly?
Un-asspound the kid? I think not. And *that* is what matters, not whether or not the person gets punished, but whether or not the deed happens in the first place.
You know, it might just be because I'm from the UK, but I'm having a very hard time working out why they are building a tunnel to pump more water into New York.
I took a look at the map of NY/NJ here : http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/wsmaps.html and the surrounding area showing the aqueducts and I noticed this big, jagged blue line running vertically down the map. At first I thought this might be a misprint, or an ink leak, but it's labelled 'Hudson River'.
Imagine a river! A huge, great big river running right to New York city - someone had better tell the mayor quick, because apparently no-one else has noticed it yet.
For those of you not clued up, rivers are natures viaducts, they transport huge amounts of water from place to place, always going downhill - I'm willing to bet that Hudson river has more than enough drinking water in it for the whole of New York! For those of you who are sceptical about this whole point, there's also an ocean nearby - far nearer than the reservoirs - now you don't get much more water in one place than an ocean!
"Is there an alternative to paying AvantGo thousands of dollars? All I want to do is give away information, not charge for it."
Really? Then just give away your information. If you are being altruistic and that's your only motive, then you have no problem - if instead you want to maximise the number of people obtaining your content, then I suggest your motives are somewhat different to what you state.
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Are we talking about criminal law here, or civil law?
'Breaking' the GPL would seem to be a civil, not criminal offence, would it not?
There have been a number of comments in this thread regarding the legality of reproducing the cease and desist letters on the internet.
The legality of publishing these letters will vary from country to country, but as a resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which is a signatory to the Berne Convention, I know that I am safe to do what I like with a cease and desist letter.
A work is copyrighted from the first date of its' publication in any tangible medium. A quick search of any dictionary reveals that 'publication' requires that the work be made available to the public (that's where the PUB bit comes from) - not for free, but nevertheless available. Any work which is not published cannot be protected by copyright in the UK - therefore private communcations between individuals are not subject to copyright law.
This does throw an interesting light on works which are sold, but are only made available to a small or limited audience - I would like to hear from anyone who can clarify the legal position of such works in the UK - the letter of the law would appear to read that they cannot have the protection of copyright.
Whether or not I am a lawyer is irrelevant.
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Earth 2150 had such a functionality, and very good it was too.
You could write as many scripts as you wanted, giving each one a name, and then in game you could alter the script that a unit was using whenever you wanted to.
No matter how important the 'information industry' becomes, we will never be able to replace our basic needs such as food, warmth, clothing and water.
What these leftist and marxist supporters like to believe is that given a nice society everyone will contribute like a good little puppy, what they neglect to face up to is reality : there are bottom feeders everywhere, and there always will be. People leech and feed from the profit of others when they can, and the only way other than (financial/material) incentives to make a population work is at the wrong end of a gun.
As countless visionary rulers have discovered over time, this approach works well for a short period of time, but the population is unhappy, the system suddenly no longer works, violent overthrow occurs, and we start a new system.
As disgusted as I am by some of the facets of capitalism as it is implemented in our current USA/Western Europe + others way, it appears to be working well, because the only people within the system sufficiently angered and upset to bring violence to bear are the groups like those who attacked the world trade summit. Many of these people have been observed to turn up to various rallies and demonstrations and initiate violence, which leads me to believe they attend for the violence, not for the ideals.
Capitalism sucks, nearly as bad as every other system of economy.
FOr all those who are whinging about the possibility of a hoax, and of Katz' integrity, let us not forget the very first sentence of this article :
"An open information society is inevitable."
A plain and simple statement, predicting the future. This clearly marks Katz' bias from the word go, I really would like to see journalism I read showing integrity and objectivity, not sensationalism and techno-freedom-evangelism.
In the 1950s, Europe upgraded their TV system to color. The new PAL and SECAM color standards weren't compatible with their old 405/441-line black and white standards [ausys.se], leaving consumers with far too many confusing choices. Arguably, European TV never recovered.
there is an article from Jay Greenspan which reports from Open Source Conference 2001, and I cannot agree with 99% of what he says. However, there is a point worth of discussion:
Great editorial. Because you can't agree with 99% of what he says, it cannot merit discussion. Christ, why can Slashdot not emply some journos for once...
He feels that people aren't going to want to subject themselves to a system where it's so easy to end up owing more than you realize.
Yeah, you're spot on, that same attitude is the cause of the poor uptake of credit cards. Do you know just one person who has a credit card? --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
I drive a Camaro SS. It's considered a sports car for obvious reasons. My gas milage rating is 17 in the city, and 26 on the highway (with a 6 speed transmission). In reality, I get by on $10 every two weeks.
I drive a brand new Audi A3 (hatchback) - My gas mileage rating is 27 in the city and 48 onthe highway - I drive less than 12000 miles a year, and I get by on about $20 a week.
I live in the UK. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Exactly how is it that a group could not send out 10,000 squares of paper, with a unique number on the back, related to it's position, and ask artists to create a piece of art on the front of the paper, and mail it back to them.
Then these 10,000 pieces are assembled into a 100x100 grid of artwork using the predefined positioning system.
Stop Babbling. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Great. My network still works during a blackout, shame my PC and network cards don't. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Crikey. And next time I choose a garage to have my car repaired in, I'm perfectly entitled to sneak around the place before I consider giving them my business, tapping on the windows with a clawhammer to ensure they really are enforced, shoulder charging the doors to check for weak hinges, and ramming the walls in my bulldozer to ensure they won't be ram-raided by someone who wants to steal my car.
And I can do all this without asking permission first.
You think the analogy doesn't fit? --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
I posted a factually correct, more informative article detailing all the misgivings, and the correct information regarding which browsers could access what.
I did not use immature, provocative language in my submission, and it was submitted before this item was posted.
*Why* was this item posted? it seems to me that Slashdot now just wants to promote FUD regarding MS at every opportunity, driving hits up. I've not a number of more intelligent posters have left the community recently, and as it's the discussion I come here for (obviously not the articles, never has been) I think I'm off too.
It's been a nice ride, but now you're near the bottom now and it's time to get off before you land in that pile of shit at the bottom. Doh! I was too late I just got a little caught on my foot. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
While I'm sure the Chinese politico is full of hardline totalitarianists, people on/. really ought to know alot more than they are letting on.
1] China is *not* a communist country.
2] Human 'rights' are not absolute, and are not the USAs to decide. Read Rustys posy on k5 for a better explanation than I could ever articulate. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Which is better -- people who just want to have their Big Macs and Budweisers, or people who want to control the lives of every other person in the world for an idealized goal only definable by a handful of people?
Oh. My. God.
You don't get it do you? You just described the American Culture TWICE.
Americans make up 4% of the worlds population, but they do their level best to control everyone else on the planet to their advantage, stop talking such tosh and wake up. --------------
Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
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It's not clear from the announcements whether the source code of the application itself, and not just the servers it runs on, will be publically available. Nevertheless, one is reminded of the argument of Peruvian congressman Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez (seen recently in Slashdot) that open source software enables citizens of a democracy to see for themselves whether the work of government, such as elections, is conducted as it should be.
It's clear from common sense that if the code to the platform is open source, but not the system itself then there is no way the citizens can see for themselves how the work is being conducted.
Which 'networking infrastructure professionals' decided to trust the clients?
I believe its only a short time, maybe a year or four, before M$ doesn't have anything to do with network interoperability software, unless they change their policy.
And *I* believe its only a short time, maybe a year or four, before everyone except M$ doesn't have anything to do with network interoperability software, unless M$ change their policy.
And having a tape of this babysitter ass pounding your kid is going to do what exactly?
Un-asspound the kid? I think not. And *that* is what matters, not whether or not the person gets punished, but whether or not the deed happens in the first place.
You know, it might just be because I'm from the UK, but I'm having a very hard time working out why they are building a tunnel to pump more water into New York.
I took a look at the map of NY/NJ here : http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/wsmaps.html and the surrounding area showing the aqueducts and I noticed this big, jagged blue line running vertically down the map. At first I thought this might be a misprint, or an ink leak, but it's labelled 'Hudson River'.
Imagine a river! A huge, great big river running right to New York city - someone had better tell the mayor quick, because apparently no-one else has noticed it yet.
For those of you not clued up, rivers are natures viaducts, they transport huge amounts of water from place to place, always going downhill - I'm willing to bet that Hudson river has more than enough drinking water in it for the whole of New York! For those of you who are sceptical about this whole point, there's also an ocean nearby - far nearer than the reservoirs - now you don't get much more water in one place than an ocean!
"Is there an alternative to paying AvantGo thousands of dollars? All I want to do is give away information, not charge for it."
Really? Then just give away your information. If you are being altruistic and that's your only motive, then you have no problem - if instead you want to maximise the number of people obtaining your content, then I suggest your motives are somewhat different to what you state.
Are we talking about criminal law here, or civil law?
'Breaking' the GPL would seem to be a civil, not criminal offence, would it not?
There have been a number of comments in this thread regarding the legality of reproducing the cease and desist letters on the internet.
The legality of publishing these letters will vary from country to country, but as a resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which is a signatory to the Berne Convention, I know that I am safe to do what I like with a cease and desist letter.
A work is copyrighted from the first date of its' publication in any tangible medium. A quick search of any dictionary reveals that 'publication' requires that the work be made available to the public (that's where the PUB bit comes from) - not for free, but nevertheless available. Any work which is not published cannot be protected by copyright in the UK - therefore private communcations between individuals are not subject to copyright law.
This does throw an interesting light on works which are sold, but are only made available to a small or limited audience - I would like to hear from anyone who can clarify the legal position of such works in the UK - the letter of the law would appear to read that they cannot have the protection of copyright.
Whether or not I am a lawyer is irrelevant.
Earth 2150 had such a functionality, and very good it was too.
You could write as many scripts as you wanted, giving each one a name, and then in game you could alter the script that a unit was using whenever you wanted to.
No matter how important the 'information industry' becomes, we will never be able to replace our basic needs such as food, warmth, clothing and water.
What these leftist and marxist supporters like to believe is that given a nice society everyone will contribute like a good little puppy, what they neglect to face up to is reality : there are bottom feeders everywhere, and there always will be. People leech and feed from the profit of others when they can, and the only way other than (financial/material) incentives to make a population work is at the wrong end of a gun.
As countless visionary rulers have discovered over time, this approach works well for a short period of time, but the population is unhappy, the system suddenly no longer works, violent overthrow occurs, and we start a new system.
As disgusted as I am by some of the facets of capitalism as it is implemented in our current USA/Western Europe + others way, it appears to be working well, because the only people within the system sufficiently angered and upset to bring violence to bear are the groups like those who attacked the world trade summit. Many of these people have been observed to turn up to various rallies and demonstrations and initiate violence, which leads me to believe they attend for the violence, not for the ideals.
Capitalism sucks, nearly as bad as every other system of economy.
FOr all those who are whinging about the possibility of a hoax, and of Katz' integrity, let us not forget the very first sentence of this article :
"An open information society is inevitable."
A plain and simple statement, predicting the future. This clearly marks Katz' bias from the word go, I really would like to see journalism I read showing integrity and objectivity, not sensationalism and techno-freedom-evangelism.
Slashdot Human Resources staffers take note.
"is ironic really, that profit will create a drive for better space accesability than research does."
It's not ironic at all, that is exactly how capitalism is intended to work.
Nice to see the old "BSDLicense/Windows" naming convention creeping in there.
Can we not drop this? For those who haven't realised yet, the fad is over.
In the 1950s, Europe upgraded their TV system to color. The new PAL and SECAM color standards weren't compatible with their old 405/441-line black and white standards [ausys.se], leaving consumers with far too many confusing choices. Arguably, European TV never recovered.
And this is bad... how?
there is an article from Jay Greenspan which reports from Open Source Conference 2001, and I cannot agree with 99% of what he says. However, there is a point worth of discussion:
Great editorial. Because you can't agree with 99% of what he says, it cannot merit discussion. Christ, why can Slashdot not emply some journos for once...
Or to the DSL provider.
Or to the Telco.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
He feels that people aren't going to want to subject themselves to a system where it's so easy to end up owing more than you realize.
Yeah, you're spot on, that same attitude is the cause of the poor uptake of credit cards. Do you know just one person who has a credit card?
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
It's a bit awkward to get around this country with computer equipment, camping and paintball equipment and golf clubs on public transport.
;(
I drive from North to South at least once a month, to and from work, and a 120 mile round trip to see family every two weeks.
I don't have much of a choice really
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
I drive a Camaro SS. It's considered a sports car for obvious reasons. My gas milage rating is 17 in the city, and 26 on the highway (with a 6 speed transmission). In reality, I get by on $10 every two weeks.
I drive a brand new Audi A3 (hatchback) - My gas mileage rating is 27 in the city and 48 onthe highway - I drive less than 12000 miles a year, and I get by on about $20 a week. I live in the UK.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Exactly how is it that a group could not send out 10,000 squares of paper, with a unique number on the back, related to it's position, and ask artists to create a piece of art on the front of the paper, and mail it back to them.
Then these 10,000 pieces are assembled into a 100x100 grid of artwork using the predefined positioning system.
Stop Babbling.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Great. My network still works during a blackout, shame my PC and network cards don't.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Crikey. And next time I choose a garage to have my car repaired in, I'm perfectly entitled to sneak around the place before I consider giving them my business, tapping on the windows with a clawhammer to ensure they really are enforced, shoulder charging the doors to check for weak hinges, and ramming the walls in my bulldozer to ensure they won't be ram-raided by someone who wants to steal my car.
And I can do all this without asking permission first.
You think the analogy doesn't fit?
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
I posted a factually correct, more informative article detailing all the misgivings, and the correct information regarding which browsers could access what.
I did not use immature, provocative language in my submission, and it was submitted before this item was posted.
*Why* was this item posted? it seems to me that Slashdot now just wants to promote FUD regarding MS at every opportunity, driving hits up. I've not a number of more intelligent posters have left the community recently, and as it's the discussion I come here for (obviously not the articles, never has been) I think I'm off too.
It's been a nice ride, but now you're near the bottom now and it's time to get off before you land in that pile of shit at the bottom. Doh! I was too late I just got a little caught on my foot.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
While I'm sure the Chinese politico is full of hardline totalitarianists, people on /. really ought to know alot more than they are letting on.
1] China is *not* a communist country.
2] Human 'rights' are not absolute, and are not the USAs to decide. Read Rustys posy on k5 for a better explanation than I could ever articulate.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?
Which is better -- people who just want to have their Big Macs and Budweisers, or people who want to control the lives of every other person in the world for an idealized goal only definable by a handful of people? Oh. My. God. You don't get it do you? You just described the American Culture TWICE. Americans make up 4% of the worlds population, but they do their level best to control everyone else on the planet to their advantage, stop talking such tosh and wake up.
-------------- Russ
Conscience? Is that *still* in the dictionary?