When I was 17 years old, I was a Government Employee with a Security Clearance. For someone in that position, the same infraction could result in Hanging by the neck until dead.
Granted someone in that position is usually well informed of those conditions.
There are no technical limitations that would prevent wind from meeting all demand
Yeah, but there are some social limitations. Namely the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) crowd. And the Environazis have discovered that wind generators have been killing hand raised California Condors along with raptors and other such super-charismatic mega fauna.
I, for one, would love to know exactly what my engine is doing.
You might want to consider what Arthur Dent discovered when he learned birdspeak...
Although I do think it would be cool for the first five minutes.
I have considered that an EEC per cylinder for a multi-port injection engine might improve efficiency. And Smokey's trick of removing all belts from the engine, and running everything from it's own electric motor. He claimed great HP gain in his book "Smokey's Power Secrets". He ran his alternator from a fan sticking out of the hood.
Actually the U.S. Forest Service replants. They charge the lumber company for the job. The Forest Service grows and replants the trees.
The main stream media focuses on the fact that the Federal Government does not see the money from lumber sales. They hide the fact that that money went to the local schools.
Can't we add loggers, lumberjacks, and similar extractivist workers to this extinct species list?
If you look closer, those are just different populations of humans. There are many trying to exterminate the humans. One culture at a time.
You can't destroy the humans all at once. Just section off the small fringe cultures out side of the centralized conciousness. Keep taking out the small groups on the outside. The core will starve with out them.
most "environmentalists" stick only to a narrow selection of appealing topics. something difficult
Right on! They totally missed the fact that due to two parasites, we came very close to losing the entire population of honey bees a few years ago. A world with out pollinators, now that would have been a disaster.
That's a fair challenge. But remember we geeks often have had other lives. And some are old timers, who lived the fear mongering of the sixties and seventies.
More importantly, we are Scientists. We question the facts, not the motives.
The first fact is Change, it's the only thing that stays the same.
The second fact is Evolution happens.
The third fact is Sinners focus on the sins of others. Sins seen through the telescope are always worse than the ones committed locally.
The final fact is "All things being the way they are... When you pick a flower you distrub a star." How many stars did you distrub today?
For someone who only sees the environment through glass (car window, vacation, or TV). The perspective may be different than from someone who lives in the environment.
Change may not be destruction. My valley, was once someones mountain.
The fact is, nothing can replace the periodical burning of the forests. Fires are a natural part of the ecosystem, and it was a horrible policy to prevent them from burning.
Good point. I believe that *SAD will turn out to be tied to lack of cool fires cleaning up the forest floor of litter.
* Sudden Oak Death - Currently thought to be a bacterial infection recently observered in Western California Oaks. In the middle of growing season, the leaves go brown in a few weeks, and the trees uh... (assume ambient temperature?...Uh turn roots up?... Uh stop perfusing?... Go stiff? ) How do you know a tree is dead?
Have you noticed that salmon runs in the PNW have declined precipitously? Hint: It's not just dams, development and hydro that's killing them off.
It's not the dams... It's the fact that the dams divert the water east to the Sacramento River, where it is sent to LA. If the water were to stay in it's own drainage, there would be Salmon.
There was a famous case in the recent past, where a logging company wanted to unload some deeded land. It seems the land was too rugged to log profitably.
The logging company found some tree climbing people to climb trees, and make a big protest.
The press went wild (probably paid to do so). The tree climbing people cried for the cameras etc.
After several years of litigation, a very rich local government bought up the land for many-many times (x50) it's worth. The government then made it illegal for mortals to visit this precious land.
The result was fantastic for all parties involved.
The logging company made many times more money by selling the land, than they would have if it were logged.
The lawyers made a huge profit.
The tree climbers got famous, and made money on the speaking tour, and selling books about crying in front of the camera.
The elected officials made good political hay too!
It seems the only losers were the tax payers who got to fund the whole deal. Now their government is many BILLIONs in the red. Their economy is in the tank. Their taxes are going to skyrocket.
These are the three things that get peoples attention. Most sucessful ad campaigns are based on steering the consumers fear, the notion of novelty, or sexual stimulation (libido).
Perhaps the guy talking about the subliminal message hoax is on the right track here. Perhaps this is a novelty ploy on the part of the psychologists to sell their new novel process to advertisment makers.
The advertisers don't sell advertising campaigns to consumers, they sell to advertisment buyers.
Look at the INTEL ads. They are not selling computers to consumers, they are selling ad campaigns to INTEL executives.
Kind of like fishing tackel salesmen don't sell fishing lures to fish... They sell fishing lures to fishermen.
This may be a scheme to sell a new advertisment making tool to advertisment makers.
Perhaps you should coax innovation in from the wild, PERL
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Actually, the west (Sierra Nevada) is supposed to burn. Before fire fighting, the spring lightning fires burned until the fall rains. There were ~20 trees per acre, not the >300 per acre we have today.
With 20 trees/ac. fires don't jump to healthy trees. Only diseased/down or small trees burn with the shrubs and grass. With >300 trees/ac. grass and shrubs are shaded out. Very few animals eat pine trees. They need the "now" sparse grass and shrubs. We need more fires, but with a "re-introduction plan".
There is an obligation that if you occupy a liberation point, you have to have some 1) peaceful 2) scientifically important 3) internationally open and 4) big project.
There is no obligation to be a UN peace-nik.
I would prefer to see a US controlled missle launcher, loaded with nuclear weapons. That way if the first visitors we attract turn out to "humanitarians" as opposed to "vegetarians". We will have a chance to dust them before they arrive on earth.
I fear aliens may come with the intent to round up all of the the humans suitable for slaughter. Drop off a few herdsmen to keep their new chattle under control. Then return on an annual basis to exploit the new food source.
Or merely sloppy enough to contaminate us with a bunch of new diseases with which we have not yet been exposed.
Now I am not a rocket scientist. But I would think the Legrange points are more like zones. With the ability to host a large number of weapons, vehicles or equipment.
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When I was 17 years old, I was a Government Employee with a Security Clearance. For someone in that position, the same infraction could result in Hanging by the neck until dead.
Granted someone in that position is usually well informed of those conditions.
Yeah, but there are some social limitations. Namely the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) crowd. And the Environazis have discovered that wind generators have been killing hand raised California Condors along with raptors and other such super-charismatic mega fauna.
How's that for double speak.
I guess a LINUX Dual P4 is a giant... When compared to a single P4 running MS.
Yeah we do this...
The LARGE UNIX machine is a dual P4 w/2GB of ram running RED HAT.
We spend $3K for a dumb terminal/mail reader/virus magnet on every engineers desk.
So whats the gain here?
You might want to consider what Arthur Dent discovered when he learned birdspeak...
Although I do think it would be cool for the first five minutes.
I have considered that an EEC per cylinder for a multi-port injection engine might improve efficiency. And Smokey's trick of removing all belts from the engine, and running everything from it's own electric motor. He claimed great HP gain in his book "Smokey's Power Secrets". He ran his alternator from a fan sticking out of the hood.
Oh, wait, that was a movie.
No, that was the U.C. Davis animal research center.
you can't just tresspass and take away a person (or company)'s right to own and use private property.
Actually you can... It's called opression. Well it's called opression if the victim group is out of favor with the media consortium.
If the opressing group is _in_ the favor of the media consortium, opressing victims is called activisim.
When they bother to replant
Actually the U.S. Forest Service replants. They charge the lumber company for the job. The Forest Service grows and replants the trees.
The main stream media focuses on the fact that the Federal Government does not see the money from lumber sales. They hide the fact that that money went to the local schools.
Can't we add loggers, lumberjacks, and similar extractivist workers to this extinct species list?
If you look closer, those are just different populations of humans. There are many trying to exterminate the humans. One culture at a time.
You can't destroy the humans all at once. Just section off the small fringe cultures out side of the centralized conciousness. Keep taking out the small groups on the outside. The core will starve with out them.
Try hooking up with your local educational facility and learn a bit about biology, ecology, business management and zoology.
They don't teach Science in the U.S. any more, they teach ecology.
most "environmentalists" stick only to a narrow selection of appealing topics. something difficult
Right on! They totally missed the fact that due to two parasites, we came very close to losing the entire population of honey bees a few years ago. A world with out pollinators, now that would have been a disaster.
That's a fair challenge. But remember we geeks often have had other lives. And some are old timers, who lived the fear mongering of the sixties and seventies.
More importantly, we are Scientists. We question the facts, not the motives.
The first fact is Change, it's the only thing that stays the same.
The second fact is Evolution happens.
The third fact is Sinners focus on the sins of others. Sins seen through the telescope are always worse than the ones committed locally.
The final fact is "All things being the way they are... When you pick a flower you distrub a star." How many stars did you distrub today?
For someone who only sees the environment through glass (car window, vacation, or TV). The perspective may be different than from someone who lives in the environment.
Change may not be destruction. My valley, was once someones mountain.
The fact is, nothing can replace the periodical burning of the forests. Fires are a natural part of the ecosystem, and it was a horrible policy to prevent them from burning.
...Uh turn roots up? ... Uh stop perfusing? ... Go stiff? ) How do you know a tree is dead?
Good point. I believe that *SAD will turn out to be tied to lack of cool fires cleaning up the forest floor of litter.
* Sudden Oak Death - Currently thought to be a bacterial infection recently observered in Western California Oaks. In the middle of growing season, the leaves go brown in a few weeks, and the trees uh... (assume ambient temperature?
82% of Journalists voted for Bill Clinton in his first Presidential Election. He won 43% of the popular vote. How is that for balance?
Have you noticed that salmon runs in the PNW have declined precipitously? Hint: It's not just dams, development and hydro that's killing them off.
It's not the dams... It's the fact that the dams divert the water east to the Sacramento River, where it is sent to LA. If the water were to stay in it's own drainage, there would be Salmon.
There was a famous case in the recent past, where a logging company wanted to unload some deeded land. It seems the land was too rugged to log profitably.
The logging company found some tree climbing people to climb trees, and make a big protest.
The press went wild (probably paid to do so). The tree climbing people cried for the cameras etc.
After several years of litigation, a very rich local government bought up the land for many-many times (x50) it's worth. The government then made it illegal for mortals to visit this precious land.
The result was fantastic for all parties involved.
The logging company made many times more money by selling the land, than they would have if it were logged.
The lawyers made a huge profit.
The tree climbers got famous, and made money on the speaking tour, and selling books about crying in front of the camera.
The elected officials made good political hay too!
It seems the only losers were the tax payers who got to fund the whole deal. Now their government is many BILLIONs in the red. Their economy is in the tank. Their taxes are going to skyrocket.
Is this merely round two?
The Headwater Forest is full of ancient redwood trees. You ever see them?
That's a trick question... No humans are allowed in the Headwater NF.
I currently create permanent archives (not nightly backups) with a PERL program calling MTX to manage tapes in a jukebox.
/dev/... > tape_toc.
/data -ls > disk_toc.
I write (gtar) to one tape, copy to a second tape.
Compare the second tape to the original data like this gtar tvvf
Then get a table of contents from the disk find
Write the differences to a file diff tape_toc disk_toc > difference_report examine any differences.
Send one tape off-site. Keep one tape on-site.
Keep the tape_toc.
These are the three things that get peoples attention. Most sucessful ad campaigns are based on steering the consumers fear, the notion of novelty, or sexual stimulation (libido).
Perhaps the guy talking about the subliminal message hoax is on the right track here. Perhaps this is a novelty ploy on the part of the psychologists to sell their new novel process to advertisment makers.
The advertisers don't sell advertising campaigns to consumers, they sell to advertisment buyers.
Look at the INTEL ads. They are not selling computers to consumers, they are selling ad campaigns to INTEL executives.
Kind of like fishing tackel salesmen don't sell fishing lures to fish... They sell fishing lures to fishermen.
This may be a scheme to sell a new advertisment making tool to advertisment makers.
Perhaps you are somewhere, but don't know it!
Perhaps you should coax innovation in from the wild, PERL
Actually, the west (Sierra Nevada) is supposed to burn. Before fire fighting, the spring lightning fires burned until the fall rains. There were ~20 trees per acre, not the >300 per acre we have today.
With 20 trees/ac. fires don't jump to healthy trees. Only diseased/down or small trees burn with the shrubs and grass. With >300 trees/ac. grass and shrubs are shaded out. Very few animals eat pine trees. They need the "now" sparse grass and shrubs. We need more fires, but with a "re-introduction plan".
Not me... In the Cathedral, sit where you are told. In the Bazaar, go where you like.
There is no obligation to be a UN peace-nik.
I would prefer to see a US controlled missle launcher, loaded with nuclear weapons. That way if the first visitors we attract turn out to "humanitarians" as opposed to "vegetarians". We will have a chance to dust them before they arrive on earth.
I fear aliens may come with the intent to round up all of the the humans suitable for slaughter. Drop off a few herdsmen to keep their new chattle under control. Then return on an annual basis to exploit the new food source.
Or merely sloppy enough to contaminate us with a bunch of new diseases with which we have not yet been exposed.
Now I am not a rocket scientist. But I would think the Legrange points are more like zones. With the ability to host a large number of weapons, vehicles or equipment.