Whoever wins *should* be a net win for us all. These are all meant to be free and exportable (importable in some cases as they aren't all US ciphers;). However, despite the fact that all entries are meant to be free of restrictions, note that Hitatchi (and perhaps others), have claimed patent right that cover a number of the entries...
Good point...the notice on NIST only states that any submitters must IDENTIFY to them any patents or inventions required. And warns against pursuing any patent rights that arent disclosed....
So I hope that they will be weighing the openness or willingness of any patent holders to release the patents in their decisions... which do you choose ?
A patented system that has much higher tech merit, or a weaker, but open or openable system.
As it was reported before and the notice is big and bold....
NIST reminds all interested parties that the adoption of AES is being conducted as an open standards-setting activity....it may seek redress under the antitrust laws of the United States against any party in the future who might seek to exercise patent rights against any user of AES that have not been disclosed to NIST in response to this request for information.
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Why must encryption take up significantly more bandwidth ? (Maybe I've missed something there...) I believe the aim is to try and get rid of some of the things you point out as being worthless for encryption: MP3 begging, etc... IRC was long,long ago a useful tool for real-time communications. Unfortunately it has since devolved into a mess. Although the SUIDNET alone may not fix any of that, if, combined with good client IRC software, it manages to automatically filter out alot of the noise, or better yet keep defined channels clearer of the uninvited chatter, it would make IRC OP's life easier and users lives much better. I used to have IRC open and logged in all the time, now I very rarely ever se it (on public servers that is, I still use it all the time on private servers.)
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Wow if that part alone gets pulled off, maybe I will start using "public" IRC servers again. The flood of kiddies and such on almost all channels, even moderated finally drove me to abandon IRC as a real com tool, although I do use it on private IRC servers to keep open conversations with select people.
Maybe they have the translation dead on...
A VB like IDE/Language may very well be pretentious.
VB on linux and Linux in VC++
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It fits...I mean if LynuxWorks is going to sell a product for VC++ users to "leverage Visual C++ to develop Linux software." Then why shouldn't linux have a tool to attract VB programmers to Linux' to program M$ VBA apps.
Give them a break , maybe with such a tight IDE and an easy to use/learn language we can provide a learning/productive tool for the script kiddies.
Just imagine what wonders they will bring to our KDE desktops.
Seriously I've seen some of the older ones (let's see what flavor colors were those old ones?) going for a few hundred (350-500). Even modestly powered newer ones (non-DVD) can be had new for around $800. (from a quick look at MacWarehouse)Throw Yellow-Dog on there and hey it's iWhack.
Sure it would be might be a bit cheaper to build one up yourself, but to have a one off MB made would cost a hefty premium over mass production units. I have actually been looking at maybe trying to grab an iMac used for running YellowDog, or maybe even a couple of them.
Oh well, double up on the Sony, but nothing about the new S3(frontpath) product called ProGear based on Trensmeta's chip....actually aimed at specific markets, but with Linux2.4, X and alot of goodies it it...Price is the kicker...."approximately $US1,500"
Seems a bit steep even for verticle markets. Although it is well configured...I wouldn't mind using one of these for education and presentation reasons. Or maybe as a replacement for this Compaq notebook.
Thats just it.... Why Not? I mean that is what it is all about right ??? Choices... Linux, rather than(or as well as) Solaris, HP/UX AIX, Windows etc...KDE, Gnome... Blackbox, Sawfish, Enlightenment, AfterStep, XFce, etc etc...the downsides:
some things may take longer to get developed as there are many projects out there.
the big problem: what to choose.
Of course with choice you will always have that question.
Some people make no real choice having someone else choose for them (and that is fine) others slowly try different choices and settle on a favorite (sorta like sorting through the 32 flavors at Baskin Robins) Others never really settle trying out new things as they come along, maybe turning to an old standby, but never for very long.
Since I tend to be in the last group, I LOVE choice. Maybe I will try out Blackbox and XFce and see which I prefer for low overhead... at least I have the choice, and for that I am gratefull to all the developers out there who stick to their project and a personal vision of the experience. Thanks guys...even if I never use it.
A few people have already asked why another wm/desktop, I tend to agree, but then looking at the ability to turn off modules such as gnome and other features that help reduce overhead...well one of the comments on the Interview page gives the answer:
it's refreshing to find a desktop that conserves memory and lets my applications run faster. Netscape is distinctly faster than it was with Gnome. XFCE is stylish without being distracting, and it does what I need without a lot of tweaking.
I'll stick to my desktop, but for those who need it's strengths XFce provides a needed alternative for them.
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Talk about an oversimplified process. Try:
Think about an item
carefully plan the parts of the item
using modelling and CAD/CAM applications carefully model all the parts required to assemble the item in question.
Click"Print" for each sub component one at a time, examine the part, refine & reprint as needed.
when all subparts look right assemble item. Examine item and subparts during assembly. If problems, refine and reprint as needed.
wow it Appears as if this might be a decent prototype and maybe we should pursue this route further. Maybe it does have enough potential to through more money at its developement.
Dont get me wrong, with a library of carefully modeled and tested files for the various parts someone needs, it does approach what the article is talking about. Of course we are still talking about limited size, one plastic material only, blah blah blah....and of course It requires the library of part files. Field modifications to an existing part, or generation of unique parts would require some pretty specialized skills in modeling to do a decent job.
Experience: old tech, limited use
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From my experience with these (on & off over the past 4 years) basically they will only do SINGLE part simple objects. You can do joints as long as they are very loose and simple as you said.
The surface detail has improved over the years greatly, but they are limited by many factors, complex undercuts, for example are very hard to get to turn out right. Multi angle bevels often turn to rounds or single bevels. Whatever you do dont try to show surface textures (my boss made me once...bad idea). Tolerances have improved too, but the more complex the object/shape the looser your tolerance requirements have to be.
Having said that these are great for rapid proto of things like cases and other parts, but it's definately prototyping. Lots of up front model planning time is needed. I have often made a copy of the model in question and eliminated non-essential detail to use with the printers. Carefull trimming after print, of flash type material, and some creative assembly, and there is something useable. Usefull, coming along slowly, but A LONG LONG way from what the article is talking about.
Well, just because it is designed not to be easily tweaked/hacked....give it 2 months max from release and there will be a half a dozen/. stories on tweaks and hack sites for it. For mass market though I would want to close it down too...I mean I can just see my next door neighbor (complete technophobe, who has to have all the latest stereo/video gear..which I invariably have to setup,troubleshoot, and customize for him) accidently finding his way to a shell...he'd totally futz it up trying to figure out how to get out, never thinking cycle power or hit the menu button on the remote. And he (the next door neighbor) has got to be the definative Corporate Drone..even acroos the fence chats turn into corporate doubletalk, PR hack speak, and buzzword bingo after about 2 minutes.
This unit is really starting to interest me alot. I dont see myself getting an x-box or even a TiVo, but this one (especially at $299) really has my attention. I really can't wait to see some specs on the "red box" from them. They've been talking the L600 up as a Game/MP3/Web unit, and in this interview John G. says the "Red Box", a higher unit down the road, will integrate personal TV... ie TiVO/Replay capabilities. Of course I did notice on the preliminary L600 info page that the L600 has SVHS in and out along with HDTV listed as specs...software upgradable to 'Red Box' maybe ????
Sounds like the folks have decided to use the common "warez" argument as a tool against pirates. 'Sure you can try out and trade dl'd games, but they will only run on one system and they have a definate timed checkout, while your friend borrows it, you won't be able to play it.' Kudos if it works.
I certainly hope this isn't aimed at the geeks. I mean many of us have built similar systems most for less.... the real question though is does the general public, or even the "Gotta beat the Jones'" need or want a system like this ? How much streaming video is there out there ? (and most of it would not be full NTSC screen size...which by the way is absolutely NO JOY for web browsing, email etc.) I also noticed no video inputs, so what digital video are you storing ? and Why ? Dont get me wrong I like the general idea (why else did I build my own custom entertainment center box) but I just dont think it's going to do well: most geeks will build their own if they want one, non-geeks will just pass it up either not getting the idea, or not wanting to cough up the cash.
Ok as many have pointed out, this is not anything terribly unique or new, just a new twist on old ideas. PGP + IRC&DCC etc, etc works just as well... but one thing to think about...
At least with this software/service coming out and getting some press on a more mainstream site (which might also get picked up by print) it helps illustrate some of the problems with the entire carnivore deal to a wider population. Now even more people will realize that services exist to bypass carnivore, so what REAL use is it for the FBI to bother with it's deployment anyway. Ok so they wont fully understand that there have been good, usable ways of bypassing prying eyes (whoever's) for a long time. For that I am glad CNET and this company did the article.
Of course for the purpose of JUKEBOX it makes a big difference. Now for my part this looks a bit intriguing as I can digitally store quite a bit of video on these. Sure it wont feed my editor directly (way too slow) but I can pull segments from the networked drive and work on them from my faster local drives, uncompressed video...sweet.. so thats approx 1G per minute (22MB/sec actually) - 5+ hours of uncompressed video. I could actually work on 3-4 30 minute TV shows at once, and still have room to be working on a feature length OPUS !
Sometimes it's also that only the young workers will willingly put up with mismanagement. A neighbor of mine and her 22 year old nephew are both working for a Tech company that I left 18 months ago. After talking to her (30something) she is looking for new opportunities elsewhere. Seems the PHB's are still doing their best to ruin a good company: entire IS department turnover in the past 4 months. He however maintains that this is just the way business is, and she is expecting too much and does not have the loyalty that is needed to work through the rocky issues. Those rocky issues lasted 4 years before I finally wised up and went freelance. So glad I did.
No. Just like it would be wrong (to my mind) to turn the delivering mother-to-be away from medical assistance... but I also remember quite well my experiences in Del Rio High, and as part of the minority of English speaking or legal resident. DRHS dd a decent job of offering advanced courses for students that could handle it and I have to credit them with that, but so much of their resources were dedicated to ESL, teen pregnancy, and violence control that it makes me wonder how much beter it could have been for legal resident students if an alternative was available.
But the H1B INS issues are different than those of the Rio Grande corridor.
Happens quite often on the border. Quite often an expectant mother will sneak in and wait. When the "time" is right she will get into a hospital, it used (a few years ago) to mean an emergency room delivery. A new American citizen is born.
When I was in Saudi, I had the opportunity to befriend some folks in a similar, but much worse situation. In Saudi, they "import" workers from the Philipines, Pakistan, India and other areas. These workers give up their visas and passports when they enter the country. They work very hard and long days, living in shanty towns on a small fraction of their earnings that are paid to them upfront. When their term is up (assuming they do not get into any type of trouble at all), they get the balance of their money, their ID's and are sent on their way. Granted most of these folks are manual workers, but some are in "high-tech" fields too. We tried to get a few of them (including a DB programmer) into the States on visas, but the red-tape was endless.
It seems ironic, having spent many years in south-west Texas, that these workers are being deported, while the schools are filled with illegal's. That is what upsets me. Granted the H1 holders know their visa is limited, granted there are ways of getting extensions and obtaining citezenship. Shouldn't we make it easier for current H1 residents to apply for citizenship rather than deport them and import new wage-slaves...of course I guess that is the idea after all.
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Good point...the notice on NIST only states that any submitters must IDENTIFY to them any patents or inventions required. And warns against pursuing any patent rights that arent disclosed....
So I hope that they will be weighing the openness or willingness of any patent holders to release the patents in their decisions...
which do you choose ?
A patented system that has much higher tech merit, or a weaker, but open or openable system.
As it was reported before and the notice is big and bold....
NIST reminds all interested parties that the adoption of AES is being conducted as an open standards-setting activity....it may seek redress under the antitrust laws of the United States against any party in the future who might seek to exercise patent rights against any user of AES that have not been disclosed to NIST in response to this request for information.
Why must encryption take up significantly more bandwidth ? (Maybe I've missed something there...) I believe the aim is to try and get rid of some of the things you point out as being worthless for encryption: MP3 begging, etc... IRC was long,long ago a useful tool for real-time communications. Unfortunately it has since devolved into a mess. Although the SUIDNET alone may not fix any of that, if, combined with good client IRC software, it manages to automatically filter out alot of the noise, or better yet keep defined channels clearer of the uninvited chatter, it would make IRC OP's life easier and users lives much better. I used to have IRC open and logged in all the time, now I very rarely ever se it (on public servers that is, I still use it all the time on private servers.)
Wow if that part alone gets pulled off, maybe I will start using "public" IRC servers again. The flood of kiddies and such on almost all channels, even moderated finally drove me to abandon IRC as a real com tool, although I do use it on private IRC servers to keep open conversations with select people.
Maybe they have the translation dead on...
A VB like IDE/Language may very well be pretentious.
It fits...I mean if LynuxWorks is going to sell a product for VC++ users to "leverage Visual C++ to develop Linux software." Then why shouldn't linux have a tool to attract VB programmers to Linux' to program M$ VBA apps.
Give them a break , maybe with such a tight IDE and an easy to use/learn language we can provide a learning/productive tool for the script kiddies.
Just imagine what wonders they will bring to our KDE desktops.
Sure it would be might be a bit cheaper to build one up yourself, but to have a one off MB made would cost a hefty premium over mass production units. I have actually been looking at maybe trying to grab an iMac used for running YellowDog, or maybe even a couple of them.
Oh well, double up on the Sony, but nothing about the new S3(frontpath) product called ProGear based on Trensmeta's chip....actually aimed at specific markets, but with Linux2.4, X and alot of goodies it it...Price is the kicker...."approximately $US1,500"
Seems a bit steep even for verticle markets. Although it is well configured...I wouldn't mind using one of these for education and presentation reasons. Or maybe as a replacement for this Compaq notebook.
- some things may take longer to get developed as there are many projects out there.
- the big problem: what to choose.
Of course with choice you will always have that question.Some people make no real choice having someone else choose for them (and that is fine) others slowly try different choices and settle on a favorite (sorta like sorting through the 32 flavors at Baskin Robins) Others never really settle trying out new things as they come along, maybe turning to an old standby, but never for very long.
Since I tend to be in the last group, I LOVE choice. Maybe I will try out Blackbox and XFce and see which I prefer for low overhead ... at least I have the choice, and for that I am gratefull to all the developers out there who stick to their project and a personal vision of the experience. Thanks guys...even if I never use it.
it's refreshing to find a desktop that conserves memory and lets my applications run faster. Netscape is distinctly faster than it was with Gnome. XFCE is stylish without being distracting, and it does what I need without a lot of tweaking.
I'll stick to my desktop, but for those who need it's strengths XFce provides a needed alternative for them.
Dont get me wrong, with a library of carefully modeled and tested files for the various parts someone needs, it does approach what the article is talking about. Of course we are still talking about limited size, one plastic material only, blah blah blah....and of course It requires the library of part files. Field modifications to an existing part, or generation of unique parts would require some pretty specialized skills in modeling to do a decent job.
The surface detail has improved over the years greatly, but they are limited by many factors, complex undercuts, for example are very hard to get to turn out right. Multi angle bevels often turn to rounds or single bevels. Whatever you do dont try to show surface textures (my boss made me once...bad idea). Tolerances have improved too, but the more complex the object/shape the looser your tolerance requirements have to be.
Having said that these are great for rapid proto of things like cases and other parts, but it's definately prototyping. Lots of up front model planning time is needed. I have often made a copy of the model in question and eliminated non-essential detail to use with the printers. Carefull trimming after print, of flash type material, and some creative assembly, and there is something useable. Usefull, coming along slowly, but A LONG LONG way from what the article is talking about.
Well, just because it is designed not to be easily tweaked/hacked....give it 2 months max from release and there will be a half a dozen /. stories on tweaks and hack sites for it. For mass market though I would want to close it down too...I mean I can just see my next door neighbor (complete technophobe, who has to have all the latest stereo/video gear..which I invariably have to setup,troubleshoot, and customize for him) accidently finding his way to a shell...he'd totally futz it up trying to figure out how to get out, never thinking cycle power or hit the menu button on the remote. And he (the next door neighbor) has got to be the definative Corporate Drone..even acroos the fence chats turn into corporate doubletalk, PR hack speak, and buzzword bingo after about 2 minutes.
This unit is really starting to interest me alot. I dont see myself getting an x-box or even a TiVo, but this one (especially at $299) really has my attention. I really can't wait to see some specs on the "red box" from them. They've been talking the L600 up as a Game/MP3/Web unit, and in this interview John G. says the "Red Box", a higher unit down the road, will integrate personal TV... ie TiVO/Replay capabilities. Of course I did notice on the preliminary L600 info page that the L600 has SVHS in and out along with HDTV listed as specs...software upgradable to 'Red Box' maybe ????
Sounds like the folks have decided to use the common "warez" argument as a tool against pirates. 'Sure you can try out and trade dl'd games, but they will only run on one system and they have a definate timed checkout, while your friend borrows it, you won't be able to play it.' Kudos if it works.
I certainly hope this isn't aimed at the geeks. I mean many of us have built similar systems most for less.... the real question though is does the general public, or even the "Gotta beat the Jones'" need or want a system like this ? How much streaming video is there out there ? (and most of it would not be full NTSC screen size...which by the way is absolutely NO JOY for web browsing, email etc.) I also noticed no video inputs, so what digital video are you storing ? and Why ? Dont get me wrong I like the general idea (why else did I build my own custom entertainment center box) but I just dont think it's going to do well: most geeks will build their own if they want one, non-geeks will just pass it up either not getting the idea, or not wanting to cough up the cash.
Ok as many have pointed out, this is not anything terribly unique or new, just a new twist on old ideas. PGP + IRC&DCC etc, etc works just as well... but one thing to think about...
At least with this software/service coming out and getting some press on a more mainstream site (which might also get picked up by print) it helps illustrate some of the problems with the entire carnivore deal to a wider population. Now even more people will realize that services exist to bypass carnivore, so what REAL use is it for the FBI to bother with it's deployment anyway. Ok so they wont fully understand that there have been good, usable ways of bypassing prying eyes (whoever's) for a long time. For that I am glad CNET and this company did the article.
Of course for the purpose of JUKEBOX it makes a big difference. Now for my part this looks a bit intriguing as I can digitally store quite a bit of video on these. Sure it wont feed my editor directly (way too slow) but I can pull segments from the networked drive and work on them from my faster local drives, uncompressed video...sweet.. so thats approx 1G per minute (22MB/sec actually) - 5+ hours of uncompressed video. I could actually work on 3-4 30 minute TV shows at once, and still have room to be working on a feature length OPUS !
Sometimes it's also that only the young workers will willingly put up with mismanagement. A neighbor of mine and her 22 year old nephew are both working for a Tech company that I left 18 months ago. After talking to her (30something) she is looking for new opportunities elsewhere. Seems the PHB's are still doing their best to ruin a good company: entire IS department turnover in the past 4 months. He however maintains that this is just the way business is, and she is expecting too much and does not have the loyalty that is needed to work through the rocky issues. Those rocky issues lasted 4 years before I finally wised up and went freelance. So glad I did.
No. Just like it would be wrong (to my mind) to turn the delivering mother-to-be away from medical assistance... but I also remember quite well my experiences in Del Rio High, and as part of the minority of English speaking or legal resident. DRHS dd a decent job of offering advanced courses for students that could handle it and I have to credit them with that, but so much of their resources were dedicated to ESL, teen pregnancy, and violence control that it makes me wonder how much beter it could have been for legal resident students if an alternative was available.
But the H1B INS issues are different than those of the Rio Grande corridor.
Happens quite often on the border. Quite often an expectant mother will sneak in and wait. When the "time" is right she will get into a hospital, it used (a few years ago) to mean an emergency room delivery. A new American citizen is born.
When I was in Saudi, I had the opportunity to befriend some folks in a similar, but much worse situation. In Saudi, they "import" workers from the Philipines, Pakistan, India and other areas. These workers give up their visas and passports when they enter the country. They work very hard and long days, living in shanty towns on a small fraction of their earnings that are paid to them upfront. When their term is up (assuming they do not get into any type of trouble at all), they get the balance of their money, their ID's and are sent on their way. Granted most of these folks are manual workers, but some are in "high-tech" fields too. We tried to get a few of them (including a DB programmer) into the States on visas, but the red-tape was endless.
It seems ironic, having spent many years in south-west Texas, that these workers are being deported, while the schools are filled with illegal's. That is what upsets me. Granted the H1 holders know their visa is limited, granted there are ways of getting extensions and obtaining citezenship. Shouldn't we make it easier for current H1 residents to apply for citizenship rather than deport them and import new wage-slaves...of course I guess that is the idea after all.
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