Well it seems that the implementation at tiles.ice.org is a little misunderstood. I have set up a mirror of the completed quilts, along with a bit more explanation of the site workings.
"I think a more aesthetically rewarding project would be one in which each artist could only see the work of the neighboring tiles. Obviously not all of those neighboring tiles would be complete. This would be best performed in a fashion that would allow one to build an infinite pattern."....
"It may also be interesting to show only a thin portion of the neighbors (scaled for my 5x9 Font):
There could be a requirement that your portion blend the edges together. Even the non-artistic may be able to contribute something interesting, and a program may even be able to contribute, or add "interesting" portions when the neighbors become boring. It may make for interesting wallpaper. "
This is exactly what tiles.ice.org does. An initial tile is created by a chosen artist. From there the tile is worked out with each new artist seeing only those portions (16pixel strips as you outlined) that are already checked in, these strips should be fully blended into. A new tile becomes visible ONLY when the four cardinally sorounding tiles have been checked in. Each quilt is predefined in terms of size (say 10tiles wide x 12 tiles tall) Tiles are scored on a -5 to +5 scale. Most quilts have some theme that ideally should be a factor in the subject of the tiles: What Besse the cow ate, Incredible Machine etcetc
ice.org runs 3 diferent styles of quilts:
beginner quilts (cant participate once you have over 10 points)
public quilts: Any registered user can participate.
Invite only quilts: Like it says, artists are invited based on their past performance, blending is a very important element.
Recently a new style of quilt has been going on, one in which all submitted tiles are immediately visible, leading to a bit more of an active collaboration than the hidden tile quilts.
I enjoy working on these tiles and in fact have found that I have been forced to refine my photoshop techniques and workflow, as this is not the type of photoshop work that I normally engage in. If for nothing else than that it has been great fun and very rewarding for me.
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I think we will find that this gets overturned, precisely because of the whistleblower scenario and the recent (relatively speaking -1995) judgements refered to in the post by Effugas. I wonder however, how much the court composition has changed, and how this will fare in todays climate at the Supreme Court level? Any Supreme Court watchers out there care to render an opinion?
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While this is definately true, throw aways can provide anywhere from a small to large layer of protection. While there is an electronic trail with any account system, the tail becomes harder to follow by intelligently using accounts (both net access and email) to cover your true identity. The trail does exist, but each layer makes it a bit harder to track if done well. If nothing else simply from the coordination of access and amount of technical info/support needed. Add offshore telnet accounts and the trail can deadend depending on the level of cooperation the foreign access point is willing to provide, in a civil situation it may very well be none. (or if pockets get lined...complete.) Historically this method has been one of the many used successfully by black hats for years. It has bitten those that relied solely on this method and did enough damage, or ticked the wrong person off enough to go after it tenaciously.
Either way it does not invalidate the value of the internet cafe/public library/school computer lab/etc/etc. Either as a sole device, or a step in the anomymizing chain. To combat this would take actual physical surveilance at some point by someone involved.
Another question that comes to mind is the time frames we are talking about here. Even if a university lab keeps records of traffic of the network, they tend to look for certain flags...not the type of activity we are talking about. I know of two locations near me that regularly dump to/dev/null their general access logs and traffic logs. Not the best policy maybe but one their admins have in place.
All the more reason to keep and use multiple throw away accounts, especially with telnet access. Of course another question that comes to mind is the case of the Internet Cafe type scenario. Although this has some potential for impact, it seems to me that if someone really wants to engage in what is considered in the U.S. to be defamatory actions all that is required is a minor amout of extra work...telnet into an offshore throwaway account for instance...or head down to a cafe.
The price is definately a good one for the community. But then for him it should be great, I mean being able to dedicate you efforts and energies to what you really want to do, without worrying about making a buck doing something else to pay the bills. Sorta like a Professorial hiatus from University to research in his field. Usually the results are quite worth the money from the university, and the "work" produced on hiatus is more focused. I hope this comes to pass, and would be interested to see how it works out....stay tuned ?
The wording of the ruling is also frightening. The judge comes very close to saying that video games aren't speech, or at least not protected speech. Does this mean that, in the future, if the government wants to censor something all they have to do is rule that it isn't protected by the First Amendment
Actually if you follow the case history this eloquent judge shows in his reasoning, you will see that previously Video Games have not been understood to be protected under the 1st. Specifically:
The threshold issue is whether video games are forms of expression entitled to any protection at all under the First Amendment. In the early 1980s, most courts examining the issue concluded that the video games of that era were not protected by the First Amendment. See, e.g., America's Best Family Showplace Corp. v. City of New York, 536 F. Supp. 170, 173-74 (E.D.N.Y. 1982) (finding that video games were "pure entertainment" not protected by the First Amendment because there was no "element of information or some idea being communicated"); Malden Amusement Co. v. City of Malden, 582 F.
Supp. 297, 299 (D. Mass. 1983) (adopting America's Best analysis); Marshfield Family Skateland, Inc. v. Town of Marshfield, 450 N.E.2d 605, 609-10 (Mass. 1983) (rejecting First Amendment challenge to town's total prohibition on coin-activated amusement devices; court considered evidence of "Ms. Pac-Man," "Tron," "Donkey Kong," "Zaxxon," and "Kangaroo"), appeal dismissed, 464 U.S. 987 (1983); Caswell v. Licensing Comm'n, 444 N.E.2d 922, 926-27 (Mass. 1983) (finding no First Amendment protection for video games where city denied license for automatic amusement devices; court considered evidence of "Space Invaders"); City of Warren v. Walker, 354 N.W.2d 312, 316-17 (Mich. App. 1984) (holding that ordinance restricting children under age 17 from playing video games did not violate First Amendment).
He goes on to show that the issue was skirted in the 90's (thus in reality leaving them unprotected) an only again now are they being examined. This is how our courts are supposed to work. This is how we determine that something qualifies for the rights of free speech under the law that was written so long ago. So now Video Games have come forward: 80's no rights, 2000 some deserve protection, 2xxx all deserve protectin. I mean it is not a short leap to go from some to all. It just is going to take a good argument.
None of this affects the issue of minors however, as the government/society has consistantly (and in my opinion correctly) ruled that a minor does not neccessarily enjoy the same rights and priviliges as an adult.
As a whole I have absolutely no problem with the Indianapolis Ordinance or the decision of the Judge in upholding it. As a parent in fact I applaud their attempts, if not their actual ordinance. By that I mean, as a parent I take full responsibility for bringing up my son, and giving him what his mother and I feel are the best morals and the tools for deciding what is right and wrong, but just because I am not there and he is out with friends I don't want my 12 year old seeing an "R" movie, or an "NC-17" movie that I have not previewed and approved myself. Many video games do have content that is comparable to the content of an R or even an NC-17 movie. Should not the community standards apply similarly?
One thing that seems to have escaped some people is that video games have actually gone a bit forward in this. By that I mean, before various courts have found that video games did not enjoy protection under the 1st. They were simply modern pinball machines. Not expressive enough in art or message to gain those protections. Now in his decision we have the following quote:
Without any attempt to assess artistic merit, the court finds that the visual art and the description of the action-adventure games in the record support plaintiffs' contention that at least some video games
contain protected expression. It is difficult for First Amendment purposes to find a meaningful distinction between the Gauntlet game's ability to communicate a story line and that of a movie, television show, book, or - perhaps the best analogy - a comic book.
So while this decision may be viewed by some as violating the right of expression, well before now it had been almost always ruled in court that video games had no right.
From another side of the issue, the courts have consistantly ruled that the government may impose more restrictive laws regarding minors and the 1st amendment. in support of that: porn mags, admission of minors to clubs, movies etc etc...how is this so different ? Because it is an industry that is targeting minors ? That's really the only difference I see. As the judge notes in the decision:
the Ordinance attempts to regulate only transactions in a commercial setting where it is reasonable to expect the seller to (1) physically segregate games that are harmful to minors, (2) effectively monitor the regulated games, and (3) verify the customer's age. Commercial exhibition of coin-operated video games is similar in this respect to selling magazines as in Ginsberg, and different from the Internet, telephone calls, and cable channels, which are discussed below with respect to government attempts to impose broad restrictions affecting adults because age verification presented a significant problem.
I am not sure I would support a ban like that in my own area, but then I have voting power and the power of civil disobedience to make my opinions known.
AMD rolls out 1.1 and announces near term avail of 1.2 GHz Athlons.
Intel repurposes P4 systems after performance issues, show that tick for tick they run slower than P3, Athlon & Duron. (at least until they can shrink the die small enough to run at 2GHz which puts them on par with todays chips)
AMD announces SMP chip set with initial 2 way (this year) support for their Athlon line. And the SMP is higher bandwidth than current Intel systems...(Finally!!)
Micron's MAMBA DDR SDRAM chip set is announced for Athlon systems - with 8 MB built in cache!
Intel initial chipsets for the P4 will be RAMBUS ?
Now they are going after the Crusoe chipsets with more underclocking tech ?
No I have to admit my info may be flawed, as I have not been watching the processor news for the past 20 minutes, but it seems to me Intel is now fighting battles on all sides (in the CPU arena at least) and, at least right now, losing ground on most of the fronts. Of course if I were Intel I would be most concerned with Athlon SMP invading the traditional server and highend workstation market...but that's just me.
S3's new division Frontpath has got specs and information up for a new webpad aimed initially at verticle markets called ProGear. Quick list of specs...
400Mhz Transmeta TM3200
Linux (2.4 kernel)
Netscape 4.74 w/plugins for PDF, RealPlayer & Macromedia
X11 Server with support of screen rotation, Motorola Handwriting Recognition, Touch screen virtual keyboard
10.4" 800x600 or 1024x768 TFT Touchscreen LCD
64 or 128 MB
64 MB flash memory or Optional 6.2GB drive ????
One CardBus/PCMCIA Type 2 Slot
One USB port, IR port,MIC & speaker(built in & jacks)
3 or 6 hour LI-ON battery
9x11" 3.2lb
Cost: $1,500
Initial plans are for verticle markets (medical, education etc)
Think you got a story.. GREAT! Just do us all one little favor before you submit it: search on slashdot for the story first. There it is on the bottom of every page a search function! Sure the
trained squirrels should see it's a repeat, but they seem to have enough going on. (Come to think of it though maybe they should do a search in a second window on any story that gets past their initial inspection before approving it....)
Just for your info a/. search on mojonation gives us this page.
Or even a search on "mojo"
There were plenty of reasons to release a new RH major, as others have pointed out, also the release timing of kernel 2.4 has not been pinned down, and with AC there they may have better info than the general public as to realistic release time. I dont want to have to wait for 2.4 to get XFree86 4.0. (Sure I can udate the packages myself, but what about the average user etc.)
Seems that the folks at RH have some very good reasons for what they did. The gcc bit is still a bit bothersome though. They should have communicated better with the GCC dev team, otherwise...
The thing that gets me is the bit about 2500 bugs etc. Especially the reporting on/. According to Troan First of all, the 2,500 number was all of the open bugs in our ticket system for all releases of all products. It includes engineering requests as well as our engineers internal todo lists for future releases. Although I didn't follow the original slash posting (thought it was pretty low S:N ratio) and haven't checked the bug list personally, if what he says is true then the poster and in part the/. community has done a disservice to RH. Sensationalistic journalism is all to prevelant elsewhere we shouldn't support it here. Unfortunately too many people, especially the other news mongers out there dont delve very deep into comments (if at all) which just spreads the misinformation.
I mean ok, for ZDNet, or CNet or any of those...sure, but/. is a News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. That article is neither.
Let's get back to News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
yet here we have people trying to cram a linux kernel in to a PDA. Now I have to ask why.
Actually if the goal is just to get linux onto another device, you're right...no justification. But the reality in this case is a little bit different from my perspective... First off they are developing for a PocketPC (aka WinCE3.0) not Palm. Big ifference in hardware etc. I have a Casio E105. Its a really nice little WinCE unit that unfortunately I can not upgrade to PocketPC. So basically no further OS & little application support & development going forward. Now when I invested in this unit (to the tune of $400+) I knew WinCE was going to have a finite life, but knowing that the OS and in rom apps were on a nice daughterboard I figured I would be able to upgrade for a reasonable amount. Woops missed the window, Casio says too bad shell out another $500. (Last Casio I buy)
I love this PDA, light, powerful, good memory/battery life etc. WinCE2.1 has some bugs and the UI has some issues. Most of the Apps I have loaded (or that came from MS/Casio) are well designed. I do not at all regret getting the Casio. It has served me very well already...but now I have this issue, already WinCe2.1 compatible SW is getting harder to find, and I have no upgrade options available for PocketPC...
Along comes linux for the VR series of chips...LinuxCE... familiar OS, fairly well developed, Open Source cross compiler, etc etc etc
Right now I have a fully functional Linux kernel booted up on it with Video, networking, serial, touch panel, sound,CF support etc...running a 2.3.9 kernel. Linux is entirely on a CF card, and I still have WinCE available with a reset. There are a lot of issues with Linux useability on the PDA right now, but they are not what you might think. Software keyboard drivers/apps (like the jot etc) are developing nicely...and userland is starting to be brought over. So it's not there but it is being actively developed and it is using tools I am more familiar with so if I need something or want to give a hand, I dont have to learn as much.
Now as to power/performance of the CE handhelds...here's part of the boot transcript:
CyaCE ELF Program Loader
Detected 32MB of memory. Will use 32MB of it.
Loading R4000 MMU routines.
CPU revision is: 00000c60
32 TLB entries
Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
No secondary cache
Setting TLB page size to 4K (CP0_PAGEMASK = 0x00001800)
Linux version 2.3.9 (root@d1.ltc.com) (gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)) #7 Fri Sep 17 21:43:26 EDT 1999
Using VR41XX TLB exception handler
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 87.04 BogoMIPS
and the/proc/cpuinfo:
# cp/proc/cpuinfo/dev/stdout
cpu : MIPS
cpu model : NEC Vr41xx V6.0
system type : Vr41xx-based Casio E-105
BogoMIPS : 87.04
byteorder : little endian
unaligned accesses : 0
wait instruction : no
microsecond timers : no
extra interrupt vector : no
hardware watchpoint : yes
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
#
Now those BogoMIPS aren't anything to scream about by todays desktop measures but I think it's probably quite a bit more capable than you may have given them credit for. One of Linux strong features is it's ability to scale down and run on lower end HW quite well. It may not be there yet, but at least I have a hope of continued development for this platform with linux. The same most definately CAN NOT be said with Windows...and I don't relish the idea of replacing a PDA every year to two years... no thanks. If Linux can at all extend the usefull life of my Casio then it is worth every moment of my time and effort. The fact that it is Open Source etc is just a very nice bonus (for me at least.)
And just how many people will accept sluggish redraws of the screen ?
If there is anything about a "working" system that generates a tech (internal or external) call it's sluggish response on screen. For most users this is what they can identify... I move the mouse but the pointer stutters along a second later. On top of that the storage and cpu are remote so they have absolutely no indication anymore that one of them is involved or not...guess what they are going to blame.
So its not going to solve any of your problems, it's only going to create more of the existing ones. Nice! Hey how about Photoshop or 3DSMax on a term like that ????
Did I get it right that they have PCI on the CStation ? I guess I am missing something on that part...I can see USB, par, ser, and 1394, but why PCI ? wouldn't this complicate matters in actuality. Supporting both a remote system and the client hardware that can each have PCI devices. Sorta defeats the purpose in my mind...like I said maybe I missed something or it's so late I can't see the application.
All in all Bindv9 sounds good. Some have been real critical that it will have bugs etc etc, so whats the deal...I dont think there is any major SW out there that has 0 bugs. Especially in.0 release. If they squash or work around the bugs quickly and efficiently I am satisfied. Monitor the various lists and web sites if your an admin, basically its a job req. I wish it wasn't but then again so do most of the SW developers.
Having said all that I must admit the comment about security being "an indirect goal" by Paul was a bit disconcerting to me too. But then David's comment that it was a "core requirement." Different viewpoints ? Quick damage control by D.C. ?
From the 3D modleing perspective, it could be highly useful, but then most good modelers have developeed the ability to visualize the object(s) they are modeling very well...good modeling requires technical and creative problem solving. It might be better suited to showing advanced model concepts or "proofs" for critique and review before going further into character development and animation. I can see it being most useful on very detailed & complex objects, especially when a team of modelers is involved.
At the resolution they are developing right now, tho I don't see much adoption by the 3D animation world except in very big houses, and even then mostly as a toy or proof of technology. Before it really becomes useful it will have to support much higher resolution, color depth, and have extremely fast updates for interactive feedback to whatever control system is driving it. Like the 3D printers... great future but a long long way to go before they become very useful and prevalent in the 3D entertainment industry.
These guys are tough, expendable (they do wear red shirts you know) and are probably necessary on a ship lost in space and hounded by cosmic nastiness like the Borg. So lets see...
Lots of cut scenes
long load times
less interactive than it seems
predictable AI
versus
Species 8472
mood & graphics of Trek:Voyager
Quake III engine w/ multiplayer & deathmatch
Sounds to me like a Quake III mod with maps and skins for the Trekkies is basically what your buying here. (Not that that wouldn't be worth it to many) I just hope they were able to get to use some of the 3D models (even if it was scaled down low poly) from the series.
Slashdot Mirror
Well it seems that the implementation at tiles.ice.org is a little misunderstood. I have set up a mirror of the completed quilts, along with a bit more explanation of the site workings.
"I think a more aesthetically rewarding project would be one in which each artist could only see the work of the neighboring tiles. Obviously not all of those neighboring tiles would be complete. This would be best performed in a fashion that would allow one to build an infinite pattern." ....
"It may also be interesting to show only a thin portion of the neighbors (scaled for my 5x9 Font):
..NNNNNNNNN..
..NNNNNNNNN..
WW.........EE
WW.........EE
WW.........EE
WW.........EE
WW.........EE
..SSSSSSSSS..
..SSSSSSSSS..
There could be a requirement that your portion blend the edges together. Even the non-artistic may be able to contribute something interesting, and a program may even be able to contribute, or add "interesting" portions when the neighbors become boring. It may make for interesting wallpaper. "
This is exactly what tiles.ice.org does. An initial tile is created by a chosen artist. From there the tile is worked out with each new artist seeing only those portions (16pixel strips as you outlined) that are already checked in, these strips should be fully blended into. A new tile becomes visible ONLY when the four cardinally sorounding tiles have been checked in. Each quilt is predefined in terms of size (say 10tiles wide x 12 tiles tall) Tiles are scored on a -5 to +5 scale. Most quilts have some theme that ideally should be a factor in the subject of the tiles: What Besse the cow ate, Incredible Machine etcetc
ice.org runs 3 diferent styles of quilts:
beginner quilts (cant participate once you have over 10 points)
public quilts: Any registered user can participate.
Invite only quilts: Like it says, artists are invited based on their past performance, blending is a very important element.
Recently a new style of quilt has been going on, one in which all submitted tiles are immediately visible, leading to a bit more of an active collaboration than the hidden tile quilts.
I am working right now to post a partial mirror at http://heupel.com/tiles/
I enjoy working on these tiles and in fact have found that I have been forced to refine my photoshop techniques and workflow, as this is not the type of photoshop work that I normally engage in. If for nothing else than that it has been great fun and very rewarding for me.
I think we will find that this gets overturned, precisely because of the whistleblower scenario and the recent (relatively speaking -1995) judgements refered to in the post by Effugas. I wonder however, how much the court composition has changed, and how this will fare in todays climate at the Supreme Court level? Any Supreme Court watchers out there care to render an opinion?
While this is definately true, throw aways can provide anywhere from a small to large layer of protection. While there is an electronic trail with any account system, the tail becomes harder to follow by intelligently using accounts (both net access and email) to cover your true identity. The trail does exist, but each layer makes it a bit harder to track if done well. If nothing else simply from the coordination of access and amount of technical info/support needed. Add offshore telnet accounts and the trail can deadend depending on the level of cooperation the foreign access point is willing to provide, in a civil situation it may very well be none. (or if pockets get lined...complete.) Historically this method has been one of the many used successfully by black hats for years. It has bitten those that relied solely on this method and did enough damage, or ticked the wrong person off enough to go after it tenaciously.
/dev/null their general access logs and traffic logs. Not the best policy maybe but one their admins have in place.
Either way it does not invalidate the value of the internet cafe/public library/school computer lab/etc/etc. Either as a sole device, or a step in the anomymizing chain. To combat this would take actual physical surveilance at some point by someone involved.
Another question that comes to mind is the time frames we are talking about here. Even if a university lab keeps records of traffic of the network, they tend to look for certain flags...not the type of activity we are talking about. I know of two locations near me that regularly dump to
All the more reason to keep and use multiple throw away accounts, especially with telnet access. Of course another question that comes to mind is the case of the Internet Cafe type scenario. Although this has some potential for impact, it seems to me that if someone really wants to engage in what is considered in the U.S. to be defamatory actions all that is required is a minor amout of extra work...telnet into an offshore throwaway account for instance...or head down to a cafe.
touche...
I seam to slaughter homonyms when I type to fast.
before I make any judgments on who is telling us the truth...
The price is definately a good one for the community. But then for him it should be great, I mean being able to dedicate you efforts and energies to what you really want to do, without worrying about making a buck doing something else to pay the bills. Sorta like a Professorial hiatus from University to research in his field. Usually the results are quite worth the money from the university, and the "work" produced on hiatus is more focused. I hope this comes to pass, and would be interested to see how it works out....stay tuned ?
Actually if you follow the case history this eloquent judge shows in his reasoning, you will see that previously Video Games have not been understood to be protected under the 1st. Specifically:
He goes on to show that the issue was skirted in the 90's (thus in reality leaving them unprotected) an only again now are they being examined. This is how our courts are supposed to work. This is how we determine that something qualifies for the rights of free speech under the law that was written so long ago. So now Video Games have come forward: 80's no rights, 2000 some deserve protection, 2xxx all deserve protectin. I mean it is not a short leap to go from some to all. It just is going to take a good argument.
None of this affects the issue of minors however, as the government/society has consistantly (and in my opinion correctly) ruled that a minor does not neccessarily enjoy the same rights and priviliges as an adult.
One thing that seems to have escaped some people is that video games have actually gone a bit forward in this. By that I mean, before various courts have found that video games did not enjoy protection under the 1st. They were simply modern pinball machines. Not expressive enough in art or message to gain those protections. Now in his decision we have the following quote:
So while this decision may be viewed by some as violating the right of expression, well before now it had been almost always ruled in court that video games had no right.
I am not sure I would support a ban like that in my own area, but then I have voting power and the power of civil disobedience to make my opinions known.From another side of the issue, the courts have consistantly ruled that the government may impose more restrictive laws regarding minors and the 1st amendment. in support of that: porn mags, admission of minors to clubs, movies etc etc...how is this so different ? Because it is an industry that is targeting minors ? That's really the only difference I see. As the judge notes in the decision:
Intel recalls the 1.13 P3
AMD rolls out 1.1 and announces near term avail of 1.2 GHz Athlons.
Intel repurposes P4 systems after performance issues, show that tick for tick they run slower than P3, Athlon & Duron. (at least until they can shrink the die small enough to run at 2GHz which puts them on par with todays chips)
AMD announces SMP chip set with initial 2 way (this year) support for their Athlon line. And the SMP is higher bandwidth than current Intel systems...(Finally!!)
Micron's MAMBA DDR SDRAM chip set is announced for Athlon systems - with 8 MB built in cache!
Intel initial chipsets for the P4 will be RAMBUS ?
Now they are going after the Crusoe chipsets with more underclocking tech ?
No I have to admit my info may be flawed, as I have not been watching the processor news for the past 20 minutes, but it seems to me Intel is now fighting battles on all sides (in the CPU arena at least) and, at least right now, losing ground on most of the fronts. Of course if I were Intel I would be most concerned with Athlon SMP invading the traditional server and highend workstation market...but that's just me.
400Mhz Transmeta TM3200
Linux (2.4 kernel)
Netscape 4.74 w/plugins for PDF, RealPlayer & Macromedia
X11 Server with support of screen rotation, Motorola Handwriting Recognition, Touch screen virtual keyboard
10.4" 800x600 or 1024x768 TFT Touchscreen LCD
64 or 128 MB
64 MB flash memory or Optional 6.2GB drive ????
One CardBus/PCMCIA Type 2 Slot
One USB port, IR port,MIC & speaker(built in & jacks)
3 or 6 hour LI-ON battery
9x11" 3.2lb
Cost: $1,500
Initial plans are for verticle markets (medical, education etc)
A colleage actually recieved 4 copies of the apology letter from Dialpad... talk about being apologetic, of course then the apology becomes spam...
Think you got a story.. GREAT! Just do us all one little favor before you submit it: search on slashdot for the story first. There it is on the bottom of every page a search function! Sure the /. search on mojonation gives us this page.
trained squirrels should see it's a repeat, but they seem to have enough going on. (Come to think of it though maybe they should do a search in a second window on any story that gets past their initial inspection before approving it....)
Just for your info a
Or even a search on "mojo"
There were plenty of reasons to release a new RH major, as others have pointed out, also the release timing of kernel 2.4 has not been pinned down, and with AC there they may have better info than the general public as to realistic release time. I dont want to have to wait for 2.4 to get XFree86 4.0. (Sure I can udate the packages myself, but what about the average user etc.)
Seems that the folks at RH have some very good reasons for what they did. The gcc bit is still a bit bothersome though. They should have communicated better with the GCC dev team, otherwise...
/. According to Troan First of all, the 2,500 number was all of the open bugs in our ticket system for all releases of all products. It includes engineering requests as well as our engineers internal todo lists for future releases. Although I didn't follow the original slash posting (thought it was pretty low S:N ratio) and haven't checked the bug list personally, if what he says is true then the poster and in part the /. community has done a disservice to RH. Sensationalistic journalism is all to prevelant elsewhere we shouldn't support it here. Unfortunately too many people, especially the other news mongers out there dont delve very deep into comments (if at all) which just spreads the misinformation.
The thing that gets me is the bit about 2500 bugs etc. Especially the reporting on
I mean ok, for ZDNet, or CNet or any of those...sure, but /. is a News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. That article is neither.
Let's get back to News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
Actually if the goal is just to get linux onto another device, you're right...no justification. But the reality in this case is a little bit different from my perspective...
First off they are developing for a PocketPC (aka WinCE3.0) not Palm. Big ifference in hardware etc.
I have a Casio E105. Its a really nice little WinCE unit that unfortunately I can not upgrade to PocketPC. So basically no further OS & little application support & development going forward. Now when I invested in this unit (to the tune of $400+) I knew WinCE was going to have a finite life, but knowing that the OS and in rom apps were on a nice daughterboard I figured I would be able to upgrade for a reasonable amount. Woops missed the window, Casio says too bad shell out another $500. (Last Casio I buy)
I love this PDA, light, powerful, good memory/battery life etc. WinCE2.1 has some bugs and the UI has some issues. Most of the Apps I have loaded (or that came from MS/Casio) are well designed. I do not at all regret getting the Casio. It has served me very well already...but now I have this issue, already WinCe2.1 compatible SW is getting harder to find, and I have no upgrade options available for PocketPC...
Along comes linux for the VR series of chips...LinuxCE... familiar OS, fairly well developed, Open Source cross compiler, etc etc etc
Right now I have a fully functional Linux kernel booted up on it with Video, networking, serial, touch panel, sound,CF support etc...running a 2.3.9 kernel. Linux is entirely on a CF card, and I still have WinCE available with a reset. There are a lot of issues with Linux useability on the PDA right now, but they are not what you might think. Software keyboard drivers/apps (like the jot etc) are developing nicely...and userland is starting to be brought over. So it's not there but it is being actively developed and it is using tools I am more familiar with so if I need something or want to give a hand, I dont have to learn as much.
Now as to power/performance of the CE handhelds...here's part of the boot transcript:
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Now those BogoMIPS aren't anything to scream about by todays desktop measures but I think it's probably quite a bit more capable than you may have given them credit for. One of Linux strong features is it's ability to scale down and run on lower end HW quite well. It may not be there yet, but at least I have a hope of continued development for this platform with linux. The same most definately CAN NOT be said with Windows...and I don't relish the idea of replacing a PDA every year to two years... no thanks. If Linux can at all extend the usefull life of my Casio then it is worth every moment of my time and effort. The fact that it is Open Source etc is just a very nice bonus (for me at least.)
And just how many people will accept sluggish redraws of the screen ?
If there is anything about a "working" system that generates a tech (internal or external) call it's sluggish response on screen. For most users this is what they can identify... I move the mouse but the pointer stutters along a second later. On top of that the storage and cpu are remote so they have absolutely no indication anymore that one of them is involved or not...guess what they are going to blame.
So its not going to solve any of your problems, it's only going to create more of the existing ones. Nice! Hey how about Photoshop or 3DSMax on a term like that ????
Did I get it right that they have PCI on the CStation ? I guess I am missing something on that part...I can see USB, par, ser, and 1394, but why PCI ? wouldn't this complicate matters in actuality. Supporting both a remote system and the client hardware that can each have PCI devices. Sorta defeats the purpose in my mind...like I said maybe I missed something or it's so late I can't see the application.
Of course all on /. know what he meant in his statement.... right? (especially as it was related to security....
Have to preview more carefully from now on....
All in all Bindv9 sounds good. Some have been real critical that it will have bugs etc etc, so whats the deal...I dont think there is any major SW out there that has 0 bugs. Especially in .0 release. If they squash or work around the bugs quickly and efficiently I am satisfied. Monitor the various lists and web sites if your an admin, basically its a job req. I wish it wasn't but then again so do most of the SW developers.
Having said all that I must admit the comment about security being "an indirect goal" by Paul was a bit disconcerting to me too. But then David's comment that it was a "core requirement." Different viewpoints ? Quick damage control by D.C. ?
Hopefully, the easing of US crypto controls earlier this year doesn't mean that someone has figured out how to factor large primes trivially... :-)
At the resolution they are developing right now, tho I don't see much adoption by the 3D animation world except in very big houses, and even then mostly as a toy or proof of technology. Before it really becomes useful it will have to support much higher resolution, color depth, and have extremely fast updates for interactive feedback to whatever control system is driving it. Like the 3D printers... great future but a long long way to go before they become very useful and prevalent in the 3D entertainment industry.
So lets see...
Lots of cut scenes
long load times
less interactive than it seems
predictable AI
versus
Species 8472
mood & graphics of Trek:Voyager
Quake III engine w/ multiplayer & deathmatch
Sounds to me like a Quake III mod with maps and skins for the Trekkies is basically what your buying here. (Not that that wouldn't be worth it to many) I just hope they were able to get to use some of the 3D models (even if it was scaled down low poly) from the series.