Java does indeed provide some benefits, such as memory safety. Unfortunately this comes at the cost of
-Garbage Collection, which kills User Experience due to unpredictable freezing of the whole program
-no way to allocate more than just primitive variables on the stack. That eliminates the fastest allocation method of all.
-being forced to use Arrays Of Pointers, when an array of objects would be perfectly sufficient
-being forced to use a pointer when object agggregation would be perfectly sufficient
-being forced to use the GC even if an object tree is in no way cyclic
-not having Destructors
I've create a programming language called Sappeur which has the same memory safety assurances as Java, but does not have all the downsides as listed above. It is still a bit rough around the edges, but it clearly works and demonstrates that the Java inefficiency is not a god-given thing. Sappeur programs start up as fast as any C or C++ program and terminate equally fast. They are nearly as efficient as C++ programs, which means they are much superior to anything you can do in Java or C#
Those who are still in the MS-Office stage of document creation have no business in editing wikipedia. These people mostly have a very shallow view of almost anything, except politics in the corporation.
In the "hard" sciences they use LaTeX to do their publications, and that is for a reason. Most people don't have useful knowledge to be contributed to wikipedia over more than two paragraphs, anyway. How hard is it learning how to make a paragraph heading and how to make line breaks ?
Real experts in some field (say honey bees) spend thousands of hours in the field and spending a few hours to learn wiki syntax is no big investment relative to that.
Wikipedia is an excellent source of mostly accurate knowledge. Those who want entertainment videos and dumbed-down presentations should go for things like Popular Mechanics.
Wikipedia serves as a first point in researching a subject. Further googleing is often required, as is going to a library or ordering a book. Or paying for documents behind a paywall such as those of ACM or IEEE. But Wikipedia does serve its purpose extremely well. Those of limited intellectual capability or limited attention span should just fuck off and eat their fatty food while consuming some equally unhealthy commercial broadcast. We don't help humanity by catering to the intellectual lazy.
They have several German supplied, super-silent submarines equipped with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. They can take out Iranian culture in about two hours more or less completely. And they are very effective in shitting into western brains so that they can continue their molestation of the Arabs in the Conquered Territories. For some reason, they have fun in Stealing Arab Land at gunpoint.
My GF has a Win7 computer and it already has an "additional" toolbar showing up in all Google queries (which she never consciously installed). I told her not to run as Admin, which she does. So I assume, yes, Windows 7 is still Insecure As Hell. Maybe she got it via the Malware-in-icon exploit, which Microsoft Corporation had in all Windows versions since since 1995 (until 2011).
Real Java programs freeze occasionally for a second or more to perform garbage collection. That simply kills user experience and makes people hate a program. That is why high-quality software cannot be made using Java (or equivalent systems like.Net).
It worked extremely well for a long time. It still does work extremely well for many corporations in many use cases. Think IKEA. Dumb terminals are secure, they all have the same software config, the same basic state.
.. we have LaTeX and OpenOffice. You can run those as libraries or efficient command-line tools on a server to generate a nice-looking PDF, which the user can then print. We can also render these documents into a bitmap to send it to a web app for display.
I know M$ hates everything which is a real alternative to their technologies, but maybe you want to get out of their claws and enlighten yourself to other options. Options which are not monolithic, but an orchestration of many free, reliable and compact tools. You could start with GWT, Perl, pdf2latex, Apache, Linux.
Don't forget Pascal-based IDEs. Yes, the number of serious IDE/language options has been growing almost exponentially during the last few years. Did I mention VisualWorks Smalltalk ? Expensive, but still an excellent option.
In my experience, GWT-based apps will run nicely on various different browsers and various different versions of each. Those geniuses at Google did some pretty hard work to make that happen. Because they need this kind of infrastructure to make Google Mail and Google Docs happen.
No, I don't work for Google, I think they are collecting like crazy and final no, GWT is not hardwired to the Googleplex; it is a very nice, reliable and well-made piece of open source.
Microsoft copied Java to the point of having the same issues with runtime library versions as the Original, Java. It turns out that Java was not a real threat (you can't make compelling, high-performance, realtime games and applications with it), but Bill Gates made sure this threat was responded to.
..that nobody at Adobe Inc. seems to have a proper Computer Science Education. They are incapable of doing basic things like writing proper, strict parsers. They really think it is a good idea to try to fix "typing errors" with really brain-dead heuristics in things like the PDF or Flash parsers.
What is the result of all that incompetence ? Adobe products are the Premier Malware API. When I have my tinfoil hat donned, I always claim they are in the pay of Beijing.
That was also my experience. GWT is really fantastic, especially because it is free and you can use it in the way you decide. For example, you can have server code in any language you chose..
GWT is a quite solid environment and "feels" very much like common Java GUI development. But yeah, Java is quite strongly typed...
Removing all the hassle of application deployment (== registry mess, DLL hell) is indeed a rational goal to go after.
..everybody uses statically typed languages. Aerospace, Medical instruments - code can kill people. That's why statically typed languages such as Ada are used.
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Java does indeed provide some benefits, such as memory safety. Unfortunately this comes at the cost of
-Garbage Collection, which kills User Experience due to unpredictable freezing of the whole program
-no way to allocate more than just primitive variables on the stack. That eliminates the fastest allocation method of all.
-being forced to use Arrays Of Pointers, when an array of objects would be perfectly sufficient
-being forced to use a pointer when object agggregation would be perfectly sufficient
-being forced to use the GC even if an object tree is in no way cyclic
-not having Destructors
I've create a programming language called Sappeur which has the same memory safety assurances as Java, but does not have all the downsides as listed above. It is still a bit rough around the edges, but it clearly works and demonstrates that the Java inefficiency is not a god-given thing. Sappeur programs start up as fast as any C or C++ program and terminate equally fast. They are nearly as efficient as C++ programs, which means they are much superior to anything you can do in Java or C#
Here it is:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sappeurcompiler/
Those who are still in the MS-Office stage of document creation have no business in editing wikipedia. These people mostly have a very shallow view of almost anything, except politics in the corporation. In the "hard" sciences they use LaTeX to do their publications, and that is for a reason. Most people don't have useful knowledge to be contributed to wikipedia over more than two paragraphs, anyway. How hard is it learning how to make a paragraph heading and how to make line breaks ? Real experts in some field (say honey bees) spend thousands of hours in the field and spending a few hours to learn wiki syntax is no big investment relative to that.
Wikipedia is an excellent source of mostly accurate knowledge. Those who want entertainment videos and dumbed-down presentations should go for things like Popular Mechanics. Wikipedia serves as a first point in researching a subject. Further googleing is often required, as is going to a library or ordering a book. Or paying for documents behind a paywall such as those of ACM or IEEE. But Wikipedia does serve its purpose extremely well. Those of limited intellectual capability or limited attention span should just fuck off and eat their fatty food while consuming some equally unhealthy commercial broadcast. We don't help humanity by catering to the intellectual lazy.
Apparently, the brainwashing must be re-done with you !!
They have several German supplied, super-silent submarines equipped with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. They can take out Iranian culture in about two hours more or less completely. And they are very effective in shitting into western brains so that they can continue their molestation of the Arabs in the Conquered Territories. For some reason, they have fun in Stealing Arab Land at gunpoint.
You owe me a keyboardz.
My GF has a Win7 computer and it already has an "additional" toolbar showing up in all Google queries (which she never consciously installed). I told her not to run as Admin, which she does. So I assume, yes, Windows 7 is still Insecure As Hell. Maybe she got it via the Malware-in-icon exploit, which Microsoft Corporation had in all Windows versions since since 1995 (until 2011).
How does it feel when Steve sticks a roll of dollar bills into your anus ?
Real Java programs freeze occasionally for a second or more to perform garbage collection. That simply kills user experience and makes people hate a program. That is why high-quality software cannot be made using Java (or equivalent systems like .Net).
It worked extremely well for a long time. It still does work extremely well for many corporations in many use cases. Think IKEA. Dumb terminals are secure, they all have the same software config, the same basic state.
.. we have LaTeX and OpenOffice. You can run those as libraries or efficient command-line tools on a server to generate a nice-looking PDF, which the user can then print. We can also render these documents into a bitmap to send it to a web app for display.
I know M$ hates everything which is a real alternative to their technologies, but maybe you want to get out of their claws and enlighten yourself to other options. Options which are not monolithic, but an orchestration of many free, reliable and compact tools. You could start with GWT, Perl, pdf2latex, Apache, Linux.
The "Google Computer", of course. It will contain all your data, nicely indexed for those who pay for The Computer.
A) Well-designed Chinese Spearphishes (ask Lockheed Martin and their F22 team)
B) Busty Russian Viruses
Don't forget Pascal-based IDEs. Yes, the number of serious IDE/language options has been growing almost exponentially during the last few years. Did I mention VisualWorks Smalltalk ? Expensive, but still an excellent option.
I think you should look at Delphi or Lazarus.
GWT takes a lot of pain out of JS development and I trust the JS runtimes much more than these Malware APIs like Java Web Start and the JVM.
In my experience, GWT-based apps will run nicely on various different browsers and various different versions of each. Those geniuses at Google did some pretty hard work to make that happen. Because they need this kind of infrastructure to make Google Mail and Google Docs happen.
No, I don't work for Google, I think they are collecting like crazy and final no, GWT is not hardwired to the Googleplex; it is a very nice, reliable and well-made piece of open source.
Microsoft copied Java to the point of having the same issues with runtime library versions as the Original, Java. It turns out that Java was not a real threat (you can't make compelling, high-performance, realtime games and applications with it), but Bill Gates made sure this threat was responded to.
Get rid of Java ASAP. Next to Flash it is the most dangerous thing in the computer world.
..that nobody at Adobe Inc. seems to have a proper Computer Science Education. They are incapable of doing basic things like writing proper, strict parsers. They really think it is a good idea to try to fix "typing errors" with really brain-dead heuristics in things like the PDF or Flash parsers.
What is the result of all that incompetence ? Adobe products are the Premier Malware API. When I have my tinfoil hat donned, I always claim they are in the pay of Beijing.
That was also my experience. GWT is really fantastic, especially because it is free and you can use it in the way you decide. For example, you can have server code in any language you chose..
..allows for debugging via Eclipse.
GWT is a quite solid environment and "feels" very much like common Java GUI development. But yeah, Java is quite strongly typed... Removing all the hassle of application deployment (== registry mess, DLL hell) is indeed a rational goal to go after.
..everybody uses statically typed languages. Aerospace, Medical instruments - code can kill people. That's why statically typed languages such as Ada are used.