"Hey may not had the skills of a Torvald or an Stallman, but boy HE knew where to put his money."
Did he?
He died much poorer than Gates, Ballmer, Ellison, Page, Brinn, Schmidt, Zuckerberg despite his company's success.
So what happens if their company fails? Each of those have most of their wealth in the form of stock of their company. Job's had two irons in the fire. In fact, most of his wealth comes from the other company, Pixar not Apple.
That's why there are newer design patents (and more to the point in the US) for the newer iPads. Doesn't change the fact tat the basic iPad design predates all the "prior art" given.
That was about 20 seconds of Googling (I'm presuming that it's a fairly "well debated" topic on the internet these days).
Bearing in mind we're only talking about the physical hardware design if we're talking about your linked sketches- although seeing it in action it seems surprisingly up-to-date.
And if you had wasted 10 seconds of actually looking at the pictures, you would have seen that the surface is not flush. And that's not even going into that thing being nothing but a prop.
Apple in 1997 was near death because they were slowly going from tiny to very tiny.
They were 90 days from insolvency when SJ came back. They were rapidly dying, not slowly shrinking.
And the source for this is no other than its savior, Steve Jobs. So it must be true.
Not sure where that came from, but it's been documented by the CEO (who would know better?) and there was also this massive cash infusion from MS to keep them from going under in 97.
The "massive" cash infusion that was dwarved by the cash reserves Apple had at hand even back than, Bob. And I wouldn't call something mentioned in an interview once "well documented" either. But hey, I'm only a sports announcer, Bob, while you are a a sports announcer and former quarterback , and sure know more about how in interviews some people tend to present their performance as much more important than it really was, while downplaying the role of others (like Gil Amelio).
Interestingly (sarcasm mode off now), the sketch lacks the "single button on the front" which formed part of one of Apple's lawsuits, has a far flatter back panel than the attractively curved iPad, and the two lone connectors drawn on that sketch don't match the connectors that are actually on an iPad. So it isn't even an accurate sketch of an iPad- it's just a sketch of a rounded rectangle.
Also noteworthy- the "Design Status" on the page you linked is "Invalidity procedure pending". I'm not familiar with how that system works- but that doesn't sound like the design is cut-and-dried accepted.
That's why there are newer design patents (and more to the point in the US) for the newer iPads. Doesn't change the fact tat the basic iPad design predates all the "prior art" given.
And no, its a number of drawings depicting the a design of a 3D object, not one of a "rounded rectangle".
And just because somebody (Samsung?) tries to invalidate it doesn't mean it will be. It means somebody is desperate - and it's not Apple.
"Historically, imitation has frequently been proposed as the central mechanism mediating the reproduction, spread, intergenerational transmission and stabilization of human cultural forms, population-specific behavioral traditions found in groups of non-human primates, or both"
-Sylvia's recipe: The role of imitation and pedagogy in the transmission of human culture
http://www.ceu.hu/node/7740
You'll note that nowhere in that text you will find "progress" or a synonym. Instead it basically says "Monkey see, monkey do."
Oh please! You say trojan to the average user and the want to know why their PC needs a rubber, you say backdoor and they start looking for that rubber for their PC and you say rootkit you get a deer in the headlights look.
So? Isn't this supposed to be a site for nerds with a minimum level of technical knowledge quite a bit above "average user"? Why use dumbed down words if not to dumb down the discussion? And why defend that decision?
if you take it like that, then samsung(and some others) copied design elements from apple before apple published them..
Wow, so Apple also invented time travel, so they could publish a European Community Design for the iPad design in 2004 after Samsung and others didn't copy elements from this design later/before.
JooJoo Tablet came out before the iPad was even announced I believe.
Well, no, the JooJoo never came out. It was never shipped, you could not buy one. And the iPad was designed long before it came out, look at this Community Design patent from 2004 and tell me this "Handheld computer" isn't the iPad.
Who cares? It's fine to copy elements from other devices. It's fine to make look-alike and work-alike devices of other successful devices. That's how progress is made in high tech.
Actually, progress is made by doing new things. Copying stuff from others as close as possible is stagnation.
The LG Prada was apparently shown off earlier as reportedly it won a prize for its design in September 2006.
No it didn't. It won that price in March 2007. In September 2006 LG send in a non-working model to enter the competition. A closed competition, where nobody but the judges could see it.
Hmmm. Let's test that statement. Can you tell me which part of the Prada they copied? Because frankly, those two phones had nothing to do with one another.
Yeah, they copied a phone that was first presented after the iPhone. "But LG leaked images 3 weeks before the iPhone announcement", you will reply. Sure, and from those images Apple created actual working phones just in time for the keynote event. Imagine if LG had leaked those photos a week before, then Apple would sure have had the time to add the slider keyboard of the Prada.
Jobs wasn't right, but his statement was self-fulfilling. Adobe abandoned the mobile Flash Player BECAUSE Apple would never allow it on iOS, and iOS owned too much of the market for Flash to have a chance on mobile without it.
And imagine, people actually predicted the iPhone would fail because it didn't have Flash.
When did people stop believing in freedom? I should be able to run any program on my computer or my handset (which is just a small 4" computer) that I desire.
Don't forget that it is also manufactured in a country that still puts a little faith in Rule of Law: the workers aren't indentured servants and exposed to thousands of toxic chemicals with no right to know or MSDS disclosures, and that there are limits of chemical releases to the environment.
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Lol! i didn't 'answer' anything you moron! Haha!
So you admit it.
"Hey may not had the skills of a Torvald or an Stallman, but boy HE knew where to put his money."
Did he?
He died much poorer than Gates, Ballmer, Ellison, Page, Brinn, Schmidt, Zuckerberg despite his company's success.
So what happens if their company fails? Each of those have most of their wealth in the form of stock of their company. Job's had two irons in the fire. In fact, most of his wealth comes from the other company, Pixar not Apple.
are HDD slots really necessary? Most users don't upgrade their hard drives
The people who make good Apple customers are the same ones who like to have the hood of their car welded shut.
NASCAR drivers?
iApp makers are mostly not making money and carriers don't like Apple grabbing all the margin. Bad news.
Modded by a driveby Apple cultist as (-1, I Reject This reality)
Actual Reality: Apple’s App Store Hits 30 Billion Downloaded Apps, Paid Out $5 Billion To Developers
iApp makers are mostly not making money and carriers don't like Apple grabbing all the margin. Bad news.
You know, even if that were true - Android app makers are making even less money, and Google as well as Android take the same 30% Apple does.
That's why there are newer design patents (and more to the point in the US) for the newer iPads. Doesn't change the fact tat the basic iPad design predates all the "prior art" given.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridder-tablet-looks-just-like-iPad-17-YEARS-OLD.html
That was about 20 seconds of Googling (I'm presuming that it's a fairly "well debated" topic on the internet these days).
Bearing in mind we're only talking about the physical hardware design if we're talking about your linked sketches- although seeing it in action it seems surprisingly up-to-date.
And if you had wasted 10 seconds of actually looking at the pictures, you would have seen that the surface is not flush. And that's not even going into that thing being nothing but a prop.
Apple in 1997 was near death because they were slowly going from tiny to very tiny.
They were 90 days from insolvency when SJ came back. They were rapidly dying, not slowly shrinking.
And the source for this is no other than its savior, Steve Jobs. So it must be true.
Not sure where that came from, but it's been documented by the CEO (who would know better?) and there was also this massive cash infusion from MS to keep them from going under in 97.
The "massive" cash infusion that was dwarved by the cash reserves Apple had at hand even back than, Bob. And I wouldn't call something mentioned in an interview once "well documented" either. But hey, I'm only a sports announcer, Bob, while you are a a sports announcer and former quarterback , and sure know more about how in interviews some people tend to present their performance as much more important than it really was, while downplaying the role of others (like Gil Amelio).
Interestingly (sarcasm mode off now), the sketch lacks the "single button on the front" which formed part of one of Apple's lawsuits, has a far flatter back panel than the attractively curved iPad, and the two lone connectors drawn on that sketch don't match the connectors that are actually on an iPad. So it isn't even an accurate sketch of an iPad- it's just a sketch of a rounded rectangle.
Also noteworthy- the "Design Status" on the page you linked is "Invalidity procedure pending". I'm not familiar with how that system works- but that doesn't sound like the design is cut-and-dried accepted.
That's why there are newer design patents (and more to the point in the US) for the newer iPads. Doesn't change the fact tat the basic iPad design predates all the "prior art" given.
And no, its a number of drawings depicting the a design of a 3D object, not one of a "rounded rectangle".
And just because somebody (Samsung?) tries to invalidate it doesn't mean it will be. It means somebody is desperate - and it's not Apple.
Apple in 1997 was near death because they were slowly going from tiny to very tiny.
They were 90 days from insolvency when SJ came back. They were rapidly dying, not slowly shrinking.
And the source for this is no other than its savior, Steve Jobs. So it must be true.
"Historically, imitation has frequently been proposed as the central mechanism mediating the reproduction, spread, intergenerational transmission and stabilization of human cultural forms, population-specific behavioral traditions found in groups of non-human primates, or both"
-Sylvia's recipe: The role of imitation and pedagogy in the transmission of human culture http://www.ceu.hu/node/7740
You'll note that nowhere in that text you will find "progress" or a synonym. Instead it basically says "Monkey see, monkey do."
Oh please! You say trojan to the average user and the want to know why their PC needs a rubber, you say backdoor and they start looking for that rubber for their PC and you say rootkit you get a deer in the headlights look.
So? Isn't this supposed to be a site for nerds with a minimum level of technical knowledge quite a bit above "average user"? Why use dumbed down words if not to dumb down the discussion? And why defend that decision?
It's a pencil sketch of a rounded rectangle with a smaller rectangle on one surface.
No, its not. Thanks for trying, Samsung lawyer # 13.
if you take it like that, then samsung(and some others) copied design elements from apple before apple published them..
Wow, so Apple also invented time travel, so they could publish a European Community Design for the iPad design in 2004 after Samsung and others didn't copy elements from this design later/before.
JooJoo Tablet came out before the iPad was even announced I believe.
Well, no, the JooJoo never came out. It was never shipped, you could not buy one. And the iPad was designed long before it came out, look at this Community Design patent from 2004 and tell me this "Handheld computer" isn't the iPad.
Who cares? It's fine to copy elements from other devices. It's fine to make look-alike and work-alike devices of other successful devices. That's how progress is made in high tech.
Actually, progress is made by doing new things. Copying stuff from others as close as possible is stagnation.
Samsung may have been under _your_ radar but they made some darned nice PalmPhones, e.g., the SHG-i300.
Their phones were so nice, they actually had to sue because the designs were copied. Imagine that.
The LG Prada was apparently shown off earlier as reportedly it won a prize for its design in September 2006.
No it didn't. It won that price in March 2007. In September 2006 LG send in a non-working model to enter the competition. A closed competition, where nobody but the judges could see it.
Hmmm. Let's test that statement. Can you tell me which part of the Prada they copied? Because frankly, those two phones had nothing to do with one another.
Yeah, they copied a phone that was first presented after the iPhone. "But LG leaked images 3 weeks before the iPhone announcement", you will reply. Sure, and from those images Apple created actual working phones just in time for the keynote event. Imagine if LG had leaked those photos a week before, then Apple would sure have had the time to add the slider keyboard of the Prada.
Headline calls it a virus, submission text an exploit. It's neither, it's a fucking Trojan installing a backdoor. Even Kaspersky says so.
Jobs wasn't right, but his statement was self-fulfilling. Adobe abandoned the mobile Flash Player BECAUSE Apple would never allow it on iOS, and iOS owned too much of the market for Flash to have a chance on mobile without it.
And imagine, people actually predicted the iPhone would fail because it didn't have Flash.
When did people stop believing in freedom? I should be able to run any program on my computer or my handset (which is just a small 4" computer) that I desire.
I don't see you picketing Adobe, you hypocrite.
They should be made as SVG animations, notable the only platform that cannot support these are Apple products
False.
Download Opera Mobile Browser - Works now
iOS needs to catch up ....No Flash, No SVG+SMIL ...
"Animation in SVG is not supported in iOS safari when the SVG is displayed in an img tag."
Yeah, really. I don't know about you guys, but I kinda like the fact that my employer can't force me to live in a fucking on-site dormitory
So which manufacturer might that be? It isn't Foxconn, that's for sure. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/world/apple-economy/reporters-notebook-both-sides-gates-foxconn/ - "240,000 people work here. Nearly 50,000 of them live on campus in shared dorm rooms."
Maybe you are talking about the US Military?
Don't forget that it is also manufactured in a country that still puts a little faith in Rule of Law: the workers aren't indentured servants and exposed to thousands of toxic chemicals with no right to know or MSDS disclosures, and that there are limits of chemical releases to the environment.
So it isn't manufactured in the US after all.