> Well Thank you! I stand corrected and happily chastised.
You weren't being chastised, and I'm deeply pleased to be on your friends list. Hope that file does the trick. I remembered seeing it during the QT 6 beta.
See how that works? I run Mac OS X because I like it, and because it lets me run commercial apps like Photoshop and Office. It's nice being able to find a driver for my digital camera right there in its box.
iPhoto and the others rumored to be in Mac's bundle are pretty fine apps, well worth purchase if you use 'em. Free would be better, sure, but at least you get the suite when you buy a new Mac, and there should be a "lite" freebie for the frugal among us.
I was pretty pissed about.Mac, but I think this is a different issue.
I like the idea of a device changing color with its state: my iMac is green, so I know it's on. It's blue, so I know it has mail waiting on me. It's red, so I know it has crashed.
Oh, wait: it's an iMac. That's not likely. Maybe they could license the idea to Microsoft.
> Since when has M$ Office even been even remotely stable?
I've had Office v. X crash--particularly before the first service update. But the current version under OS X 10.2.3 is quite solid. More importantly, I've never lost a document. I do a LOT of writing.
Dunno what platform you're using, but Office has been exemplary for me. This is quite a contrast to AbiWord (for instance), which crashes and corrupts documents with the kind of frequency that would keep me from ever trusting it with professional writing.
Further, no WP or spreadsheet app approaches Microsoft's suite in terms of features. MS has been doing office apps for a long time, and it shows.
My problem with Microsoft is its operating system monopoly, not its commercial applications. Yeah, I wish.doc was an open standard. But most programs convert it.
Appleworks is quite reliable, but its.cwk format is no less proprietary than.doc. As badly patched as it is, Appleworks is stable on OS X. But it won't do half the things I can do in Word, and its spreadsheet app is hopelessly dated.
Open Office and Star Office work fine for basic stuff on my Linux box, but aren't available on OS X. There's not even CLOSE to being mature on the Mac platform.
Here's hoping Apple takes Star Office under wing as Appleworks 7.0.
> Apple makes about 90% of their revenue via hardware
Absolutely true. Going to war on the x86 platform would be a megashift in their (successful) business model.
OS X on a PC would be cool. No disrespect at all intended towards Linux, but I think OS X is the best of the currently available desktops.
My guess is that Marklar will never be released to the PC world. It's a Motorola intimidator. Might all be moot, now that IBM has come to play.
But rumors persist that Marklar is more than a PPC exit strategy. It's Apple's final scorched-earth option if Microsoft excludes them from.Net or pulls the plug on Office for the Mac.
Who knows? Apple rumors usually turn out to be just what we pay for them.
As for AMD: yeah, a PPC chip from them would be fabulous. 64-bit, please.
All Apple need do is glue two iMacs together, and they have the world's first dual-processor computing sphere. Don't think Steve Jobs would go with that electric swamp gas green, though.:-)
> Not really. It certainly needs polishing, but it's hardly hackware. In fact if Apple put half a dozen engineers on it for a year, they'd have their own MS Office killer within a year.
Absolutely--but it's not ready now.
God bless the developers who work on Open Office, but I think they have forther to go on the OS X port than you indicate. They're not close to getting it onto Aqua. Beyond that, Open Office will need substantial modification if it's going to conform to Apple's user interface standards.
It MUST be super-stable for professional use.
You're right: an Apple development team and a supported commercial release would be best. It was rumored last summer that Apple was working on a port of Star Office. The reports were followed by all manner of denials after the Open Office developers heard of it.
My guess is that Apple is hard at work on AppleWorks 7.0, and it's based on Star Office. Guess we'll see.
I don't think it's time yet. Marklar would be the equivalent of going nuclear. Apple needs a solid MS-compatible office suite first. Appleworks 6.x isn't sufficient, and Open Office is MILES away from being ready.
Beyond a professional office product, what else would Apple need from Microsoft? Chimera/Navigator is already superior to IE as a browser (just a few more show-stoppers, and it will be ready to come out of beta). Almost all the major commercial wares are ported over. When the time is right, I think Apple should go it alone.
OS X on x86. Boy, that would beat the heck out of Win XP.
...in the words of Public Enemy, "Can't Truss It."
Today 233 mHz. Tomorrow...well, 500 mHz or so. But chips are a strategic commodity, and they know they'll be toe-to-toe with the West as they emerge as a bona fide superpower rival. No need rely on the largesse of the US or Japan for microprocessors.
I wonder what they could build a bare-bones PC for, if CPUs were 25-cents or so?
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...is the theatre which surrounds it. Most Macheads enjoy the rumor-mongering as much as Apple's actual products. They're cheaper, too. ;-)
I thought the Jag upgrade was too expensive. Still, I forked over. Glad I did. It's oodles quicker on my long-suffering iBook, :-)
You know, it took me two weeks to get that. I'm modding myself -1 (Duh). ;-)
> Well Thank you! I stand corrected and happily chastised.
:-)
You weren't being chastised, and I'm deeply pleased to be on your friends list. Hope that file does the trick. I remembered seeing it during the QT 6 beta.
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See how that works? I run Mac OS X because I like it, and because it lets me run commercial apps like Photoshop and Office. It's nice being able to find a driver for my digital camera right there in its box.
.Mac, but I think this is a different issue.
iPhoto and the others rumored to be in Mac's bundle are pretty fine apps, well worth purchase if you use 'em. Free would be better, sure, but at least you get the suite when you buy a new Mac, and there should be a "lite" freebie for the frugal among us.
I was pretty pissed about
Easily remedied by uninstalling QT 6 and re-installing QT 5, right?
I remember reading somewhere that Apple has ordered a run of 19" screens (presumably for the iMac).
If this is so, I'd think we're just seeing another product cycle. I'm betting Apple keeps the current iMac alive until they upgrade the Powermac.
I wonder what the Norse word for "monopoly" might be?
> So I'm boycotting Microsoft, too, until they release Office for *nix.
;-)
They have, of course. It's called Office v. X.
I like the idea of a device changing color with its state: my iMac is green, so I know it's on. It's blue, so I know it has mail waiting on me. It's red, so I know it has crashed.
;-)
Oh, wait: it's an iMac. That's not likely. Maybe they could license the idea to Microsoft.
Troll, troll, troll. I know.
> Since when has M$ Office even been even remotely stable?
.doc was an open standard. But most programs convert it.
.cwk format is no less proprietary than .doc. As badly patched as it is, Appleworks is stable on OS X. But it won't do half the things I can do in Word, and its spreadsheet app is hopelessly dated.
I've had Office v. X crash--particularly before the first service update. But the current version under OS X 10.2.3 is quite solid. More importantly, I've never lost a document. I do a LOT of writing.
Dunno what platform you're using, but Office has been exemplary for me. This is quite a contrast to AbiWord (for instance), which crashes and corrupts documents with the kind of frequency that would keep me from ever trusting it with professional writing.
Further, no WP or spreadsheet app approaches Microsoft's suite in terms of features. MS has been doing office apps for a long time, and it shows.
My problem with Microsoft is its operating system monopoly, not its commercial applications. Yeah, I wish
Appleworks is quite reliable, but its
Open Office and Star Office work fine for basic stuff on my Linux box, but aren't available on OS X. There's not even CLOSE to being mature on the Mac platform.
Here's hoping Apple takes Star Office under wing as Appleworks 7.0.
Ask your wife.
;-)
Okay, I'm sorry. But you did post AC, after all.
Well, fuck you right back. And Merry Christmas from those of us who enjoy Macintosh desktops.
> Apple makes about 90% of their revenue via hardware
.Net or pulls the plug on Office for the Mac.
Absolutely true. Going to war on the x86 platform would be a megashift in their (successful) business model.
OS X on a PC would be cool. No disrespect at all intended towards Linux, but I think OS X is the best of the currently available desktops.
My guess is that Marklar will never be released to the PC world. It's a Motorola intimidator. Might all be moot, now that IBM has come to play.
But rumors persist that Marklar is more than a PPC exit strategy. It's Apple's final scorched-earth option if Microsoft excludes them from
Who knows? Apple rumors usually turn out to be just what we pay for them.
As for AMD: yeah, a PPC chip from them would be fabulous. 64-bit, please.
All Apple need do is glue two iMacs together, and they have the world's first dual-processor computing sphere. Don't think Steve Jobs would go with that electric swamp gas green, though. :-)
> Not really. It certainly needs polishing, but it's hardly hackware. In fact if Apple put half a dozen engineers on it for a year, they'd have their own MS Office killer within a year.
Absolutely--but it's not ready now.
God bless the developers who work on Open Office, but I think they have forther to go on the OS X port than you indicate. They're not close to getting it onto Aqua. Beyond that, Open Office will need substantial modification if it's going to conform to Apple's user interface standards.
It MUST be super-stable for professional use.
You're right: an Apple development team and a supported commercial release would be best. It was rumored last summer that Apple was working on a port of Star Office. The reports were followed by all manner of denials after the Open Office developers heard of it.
My guess is that Apple is hard at work on AppleWorks 7.0, and it's based on Star Office. Guess we'll see.
Go, Apple!
I don't think it's time yet. Marklar would be the equivalent of going nuclear. Apple needs a solid MS-compatible office suite first. Appleworks 6.x isn't sufficient, and Open Office is MILES away from being ready.
Beyond a professional office product, what else would Apple need from Microsoft? Chimera/Navigator is already superior to IE as a browser (just a few more show-stoppers, and it will be ready to come out of beta). Almost all the major commercial wares are ported over. When the time is right, I think Apple should go it alone.
OS X on x86. Boy, that would beat the heck out of Win XP.
Ah...smart guns. Now if they can only do the same for their owners.
> And in about 32 more days, you'll catch up with the rest of the world...
As Linux might one day catch up with Windows on the desktop, perhaps?
You gotta start somewhere.
Of course it wasn't necessary, but I like the song. In any case, I'm not proving my hipness by quoting a group that hasn't had a hit in a decade.
:-)
The Macarena looks positively modern by comparison.
...in the words of Public Enemy, "Can't Truss It."
Today 233 mHz. Tomorrow...well, 500 mHz or so. But chips are a strategic commodity, and they know they'll be toe-to-toe with the West as they emerge as a bona fide superpower rival. No need rely on the largesse of the US or Japan for microprocessors.
I wonder what they could build a bare-bones PC for, if CPUs were 25-cents or so?
Apparently Universal expects us to go back to the Future to get those replacement DVDs.
Damn! They're taking away the last good thing about AOL. ;-)
No way! Microwave popcorn (and opposable thumbs) is what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom.
And ultrasoft, two-ply toilet paper. That, too.