That's kind of where I was going with the comment. The buzz amongst people I talk to has been primarily generated because they were able to grab copies of it off the Interwebz.
I've also seen some (and been involved with a few of my own) where the only "marketing" consisted of an announcement on the creator's blog or Facebook page, and since nobody knew about them, the project tanked. Seems little the fault of Kickstarter, no?
And while it's not optimal by any means, at least the tailings will already be at the bottom of the ocean, so they won't have to dump them somewhere else.
It's sad, but burying these sorts of reports rather than responding to them with higher pollution standards is their loss. And, when it comes to air pollution, ours as well.
Hence why in the past so many of them (visual artists in particular) weren't recognized until they were dead, and then people started swarming over the (scarce) originals they left behind, which someone deemed worth money.
I'm a semi-pro musician. Although the pay rates haven't been great, every bar/club/venue I know of that has live music pays to book bands/musicians to perform. Unless it's a "coffee house" type thing where anyone can just get up and perform.
I and many of my fellow not-signed-with-a-big-label musicians/bands give away recordings (CDs and free downloads). We live in the reality of today where recordings are only promotional tools, not an end product themselves.
Strat
I think I can count the number of times I've gotten paid to play in public on one hand. I sold some CDs to close friends, and then gave the rest I had away at most events. But I guess it's different in that I started the game knowing a) I could record my own music and b) that I was never going to become a millionaire this way.
Nobody is forcing musicians to give away music for free
They're not giving it away for free; they're trying to sell it, and you're taking it.
I'm not saying they're *trying* to give it away for free. I'm saying that the situation they're complaining about -- they make music, a bunch of legitimate intermediate steps happen, then people get free music -- is not something that they are forced to participate in.
Anybody remember the story about the beggar eating bread outside a restaurant, when the chef came out and demanded he pay for the smell of the soup? The beggar smiled and shook his pockets and said, "Fine, I'll pay for the smell of your soup with the sound of my money."
Yeah, as I recall, the Statute of Anne also allowed the crown to Censor the one printer allowed to print that material. So if you didn't go along with the Crown, you'd lose your right to make copies, and the next printer in line would get it.
As an artist, I'd better find a way to get some of that money up front, because once it's out of the bag, there's very little technological reason why I would see another penny. Then again, if we look at the patronage models of old (or modern crowdsourcing), people supported the artist because they wanted him or her to generate future content.
You could always become a groupie! Or buy them dinner after a show. I believe those are both legal ways to support artists, and they don't require paying for a string of zeroes and ones.
Exactly! That's why I have been happy to support artists I discovered on Kickstarter, or friends who were producing albums, because I understand that they need my help and I have come to care about them. I will pay to go see a show a friend does at a local bar. I'll also share those mp3s with friends who haven't heard my friends' music, because that's a new fan who might buy an album (or at least pass it along).
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That's kind of where I was going with the comment. The buzz amongst people I talk to has been primarily generated because they were able to grab copies of it off the Interwebz.
Honestly, if it weren't for downloading, I don't think I would have even heard of the show.
"Shitty articles bubble." That, my friend, is some impressive imagery. Kudos!
I've also seen some (and been involved with a few of my own) where the only "marketing" consisted of an announcement on the creator's blog or Facebook page, and since nobody knew about them, the project tanked. Seems little the fault of Kickstarter, no?
And while it's not optimal by any means, at least the tailings will already be at the bottom of the ocean, so they won't have to dump them somewhere else.
Shouldn't change life in Delaware much. We don't have sales tax, period.
Copies of Kalashnikov's work are made pretty much every place on the globe already.
My guess is that it's a little easier to euthanize a mouse when something goes horribly, horribly wrong.
Besides, I need room in my mouth for my explodo-molar.
This is a brilliant idea! Recently, the U-2 has taken several _PRICKLY_ pictures of _PENIS_ development off the coast of _YOUR MOM_.
It's sad, but burying these sorts of reports rather than responding to them with higher pollution standards is their loss. And, when it comes to air pollution, ours as well.
In the long term, the trend of hiding things that threaten their power will likely be a threat to the Party's power.
Tidal forces seem like a good culprit, considering the extreme gravitational forces involved.
Now what I'd love is an automated check-out at the liquor store, because getting to know the cashiers *there* gets a little embarrassing.
In Delaware, we're all just looking for the exit to the parking lot.
Cheaper than monkeys on synthesizers, that's for sure!
Worked in Fallout.
Hence why in the past so many of them (visual artists in particular) weren't recognized until they were dead, and then people started swarming over the (scarce) originals they left behind, which someone deemed worth money.
I'm a semi-pro musician. Although the pay rates haven't been great, every bar/club/venue I know of that has live music pays to book bands/musicians to perform. Unless it's a "coffee house" type thing where anyone can just get up and perform.
I and many of my fellow not-signed-with-a-big-label musicians/bands give away recordings (CDs and free downloads). We live in the reality of today where recordings are only promotional tools, not an end product themselves.
Strat
I think I can count the number of times I've gotten paid to play in public on one hand. I sold some CDs to close friends, and then gave the rest I had away at most events. But I guess it's different in that I started the game knowing a) I could record my own music and b) that I was never going to become a millionaire this way.
Luckily for the free market, innovation is what sabotages the Iron Law of Oligarchy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy Or at least it attempts to.
Nobody is forcing musicians to give away music for free
They're not giving it away for free; they're trying to sell it, and you're taking it.
I'm not saying they're *trying* to give it away for free. I'm saying that the situation they're complaining about -- they make music, a bunch of legitimate intermediate steps happen, then people get free music -- is not something that they are forced to participate in.
Anybody remember the story about the beggar eating bread outside a restaurant, when the chef came out and demanded he pay for the smell of the soup? The beggar smiled and shook his pockets and said, "Fine, I'll pay for the smell of your soup with the sound of my money."
Yeah, as I recall, the Statute of Anne also allowed the crown to Censor the one printer allowed to print that material. So if you didn't go along with the Crown, you'd lose your right to make copies, and the next printer in line would get it.
As an artist, I'd better find a way to get some of that money up front, because once it's out of the bag, there's very little technological reason why I would see another penny. Then again, if we look at the patronage models of old (or modern crowdsourcing), people supported the artist because they wanted him or her to generate future content.
You could always become a groupie! Or buy them dinner after a show. I believe those are both legal ways to support artists, and they don't require paying for a string of zeroes and ones.
Exactly! That's why I have been happy to support artists I discovered on Kickstarter, or friends who were producing albums, because I understand that they need my help and I have come to care about them. I will pay to go see a show a friend does at a local bar. I'll also share those mp3s with friends who haven't heard my friends' music, because that's a new fan who might buy an album (or at least pass it along).