"The simplest way is to make sure you have no trusted publishers, including Microsoft."
So OK. If this signed certificates thing was a good idea to begin with, why are they suggesting people remove ALL trusted publishers?
It's only Microsoft's own certificate that can reintroduce the problem. Why would they advise removing all certificates?
Is it because they think their users are too stupid to remove Microsoft only? Are they trying to look less bad by making it look like the problem effects all publishers? Or are they simply admitting that this signed certificate thing isn't working?
Oh, if we can't run anything we want on your system, nobody else should either. pfft.
hm.. looks like you can configure it to come up when the MIDDLE mouse button is clicked. This works better. Probably would be the default if everybody had middle buttons or an emulation of it.
Also.. it seems like the CTRL key (not configurable at this point).. dismisses the menu when you click your mouse while it's pressed.
Well.. it's all fine and dandy.. But it would be nice if I could still right click on a link to 'copy link address'.. or on a picture to 'save image'..
For all I care you can consider any email with an image in it SPAM.. Even if it's not, I'm not interested.
Also.. you suggest tailoring the regular text part of the message to look like a regular legitimate mail. However, since the person sending the email does not know you, or your interests, any word they use (except maybe 'the', 'a', 'you the man') will probably get flagged as high risk anyway.
I think the method described in the article has its strong points, the best of which is that its customized automatically for each user's own defitinition of spam mail and the mails he receives.
This is a good idea. Actually you can do this same this way also.
Actually I can use my verizon email for this purpose. I had verizon DSL about 2 years ago. My email address was at the time oktay@bellatlantic.net. I have used that email for a while then switched to cable. That email was never shut down. It kept gathering spam everyday. Nobody was actually using the mailbox.
But someday I noticed something else. Most of the spam emails I was receiving was addressed to oktay@verizon.net . This is an email alias I could use apparently. But never knowing about the existance of this email alias I have NEVER used it. By the same token, I haven't published it online or given it to anybody I know.
This is clearly Verizon keeping my email box open just for the purpose of selling my email address to spammers.
Very scary considering verizon is supposed to be an ISP.
All decent browsers give you the option to turn off javascript opened browser windows (which pop-ups are). Both mozilla and opera do this (on windows and *nix).
At this day and age a browser without this feature is almost unusable.
As a CIS major, I have to say that it is not completely true to say that CIS and CS majors end up doing the same job for the same money. A CIS major would never be able to do what a CS graduate can.
The education we get is completely different. Yes I take classes in programming, databases, etc. But we always concentrate more on the business side of the issues while CS majors concentrate more on designing the business systems that we will eventually use. I think with the education I received I can be a systems analyst or a consultant if I keep up with the technology and get some experience working in a junior position in a good company.
However, I will never know all the beautiful things a CS major would know such as all the algorithms, hardware/software internals, why things work the way they do and how... and I will never really be a hardcore programmer.
I would study CS if I could but I don't think I would be successful in that.
To sum up; I think you got to really decide what you want to do. If you want to be a programmer or if you want to do things that are highly technical, go ahead with CS. You will see that all that math you learn will give you great flexibility in the way you think. If you want to be more on the business side, go with CIS. That's what I like to think of this issue anyway.
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Funny how when Google does Ads it's a "Service". Everybody else's ads are a nuisance.
What exactly did you win? Bragging rights?
"The simplest way is to make sure you have no trusted publishers, including Microsoft."
So OK. If this signed certificates thing was a good idea to begin with, why are they suggesting people remove ALL trusted publishers?
It's only Microsoft's own certificate that can reintroduce the problem. Why would they advise removing all certificates?
Is it because they think their users are too stupid to remove Microsoft only? Are they trying to look less bad by making it look like the problem effects all publishers? Or are they simply admitting that this signed certificate thing isn't working?
Oh, if we can't run anything we want on your system, nobody else should either. pfft.
oktay
hm.. looks like you can configure it to come up when the MIDDLE mouse button is clicked. This works better. Probably would be the default if everybody had middle buttons or an emulation of it.
Also.. it seems like the CTRL key (not configurable at this point).. dismisses the menu when you click your mouse while it's pressed.
Oktay
Well.. it's all fine and dandy.. But it would be nice if I could still right click on a link to 'copy link address'.. or on a picture to 'save image'..
Is there a shortcut key to do that or something?
Oktay
For all I care you can consider any email with an image in it SPAM.. Even if it's not, I'm not interested.
Also.. you suggest tailoring the regular text part of the message to look like a regular legitimate mail. However, since the person sending the email does not know you, or your interests, any word they use (except maybe 'the', 'a', 'you the man') will probably get flagged as high risk anyway.
I think the method described in the article has its strong points, the best of which is that its customized automatically for each user's own defitinition of spam mail and the mails he receives.
Oktay
This is a good idea. Actually you can do this same this way also.
Actually I can use my verizon email for this purpose. I had verizon DSL about 2 years ago. My email address was at the time oktay@bellatlantic.net. I have used that email for a while then switched to cable. That email was never shut down. It kept gathering spam everyday. Nobody was actually using the mailbox.
But someday I noticed something else. Most of the spam emails I was receiving was addressed to oktay@verizon.net . This is an email alias I could use apparently. But never knowing about the existance of this email alias I have NEVER used it. By the same token, I haven't published it online or given it to anybody I know.
This is clearly Verizon keeping my email box open just for the purpose of selling my email address to spammers.
Very scary considering verizon is supposed to be an ISP.
Oktay Altunergil
what kind of modding is this?
(4 - Informative) ???
it's just a paragraph from the original article. You modders would already be informed if you'd read the article.
oktay
Mozilla 1.0 on Linux.
The poster has a point. I haven't seen a pop-up before but this newyorktimes thing popped up an orbitz ad with no hesitation.
ps: opera didn't
oktay
Opera 6 on Linux passes this test too.
Oktay
All decent browsers give you the option to turn off javascript opened browser windows (which pop-ups are). Both mozilla and opera do this (on windows and *nix).
At this day and age a browser without this feature is almost unusable.
oktay
As far as I know Turbolinux is pretty 'big in Japan'. After Redhat and SuSE (in europe), they might even be the most 'sold' distribution.
Check out this article I had written a while ago.. It might give you some ideas.
/ 01/31 /CVS.html
Easing Web Application Development with CVS
http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002
Oktay Altunergil
That would make FINLAND the heaven for spammers wouldn't it?
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As a CIS major, I have to say that it is not completely true to say that CIS and CS majors end up doing the same job for the same money. A CIS major would never be able to do what a CS graduate can.
The education we get is completely different. Yes I take classes in programming, databases, etc. But we always concentrate more on the business side of the issues while CS majors concentrate more on designing the business systems that we will eventually use. I think with the education I received I can be a systems analyst or a consultant if I keep up with the technology and get some experience working in a junior position in a good company.
However, I will never know all the beautiful things a CS major would know such as all the algorithms, hardware/software internals, why things work the way they do and how... and I will never really be a hardcore programmer. I would study CS if I could but I don't think I would be successful in that.
To sum up; I think you got to really decide what you want to do. If you want to be a programmer or if you want to do things that are highly technical, go ahead with CS. You will see that all that math you learn will give you great flexibility in the way you think. If you want to be more on the business side, go with CIS. That's what I like to think of this issue anyway.
Either way, try to do the best you can.
Oktay Altunergil
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