A great product doesn't need much marketing once it's past an initial treshold where prospective buyers come to realize it exists and what its merits are.
This is a bullshit statement which is almost completely untrue. Word of mouth is not an effective means of marketing, because it relies on your product being consistantly better than the competetion in all respects and to all observers. Even if processor speed were a purely objective observation which anybody could recognize, there's still the problem that AMD's marketshare is not sufficient, nor their performance superior enough, to ensure that every consumer has heard of AMD and understand what its processors do, and why they are less expensive than Intel's chips (which are produced more cheaply).
Dropping even a little more mainstream marketing could mean a LOT for AMD. Just a little blurb that says, "hey, hi, we're AMD, we're a decent company and not a nobody" would be sufficient. It might even be enough to convince Dell to let me buy an AMD machine from them. Maybe.
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Yeah, and a retarded blog at that. It is high on sci fi FUD, low on reality (like most anti-genetic modification blogs). For one thing, in the event the above happened, the corporation WOULD share the data, rather than face liability. For another, NOT having the data to Wheat 1.0 would make it much more difficult to construct a virus in the first place. It isn't easy or quick to break down a genome, which may be necessary to manufacture a virus. It takes a lot of equipment, a lot of research and a lot of time. That's why most chemical agents are alterations of naturally occuring viruses.
Here's equal time rumination for the other side: what happens when a bio-cracker gets the open source genome to wheat 1.0 and uses this a blueprint to BUILD a virus specially tailored to its genetic structure?
How is Intel going to compete by continuing to offer an inferior product?
I dunno. They'll probably just continue to, you know, sell massively more processors than AMD by "marketing" their processor instead of merely assuming everybody will come to their senses.
It has, after all, worked for at least twelve years.
Uh, the companies that make the phones don't make the towers. They make phones, and it's a cutthroat industry. Cell phone manufacturers cell in bulk to cell phone companies, not direct to consumers, so they sort of have to do whatever they can convince the cell phone company will attract people...which means smaller phones with a nicer look and wild new features, not better reception. Feature sets on new phones push the sales of long term calling plans which in turn is supposed to put up new towers.
Of course, it rarely works out that way. The return from putting up new towers in an area where you already have customers is marginal, especially once you have them locked into a 2 year contract. The return on putting up new towers in areas you don't currently cover, thus increasing your possible customer base, is much more worthwhile. So that's where the money goes, until contract renewals come up in about 2 years. Then a few extra towers will show up.
You *COULD* just come up with a clever name. One people will remember, one that means something to you, one that won't go out of fashion and doesn't make you look like a number in a herd (though yours is by no means as bad as some). With infinite possibilities, many of them spelled correctly and very badass, you should be able to find SOMETHING that defines you, sans numeros.
Well, for god's sake turn off your spam filter. Because that shit is reading your email and generating keyword lists etc. It's profiling your email! Why, the whitelist on your Bayesian filter is FULL of shit you like to talk about. Just think if the cops got ahold of that one!
Well, it's Garrick the taylor who performs the murder, but yeah, that's a brilliant episode, especially since it's told from the position of Sisko, confessing everything in his captan's log (which he later deletes).
How about the one where the Maquis are poisoning Cardassian planets with a chemical that isn't toxic to non-Cardassians...so Sisko poisons THEIR planets. Actually fires missiles full of poison gas onto them, with the whole crew of the Defiant looking at him like "whoa, dude! way out of line!" The look on O'Brian's face...and the fact that Dax actually refuses the order at first...made this an awesome episode, one that changed your opinion of the captain.
True...but remember, what you get for that ~$50 is complete control over and complete reliability for your email. Something every self respecting "geek" should have. Something EVERYBODY should have.
If they only thing you worry about with computing is COST, then yeah, get a yahoo account. Personally I like being lord host of dasmegabyte.org. I like being able to do whatever the fuck I want. And I like the look people give me when I tell them my email address. Yeah, I run my own server. Yeah, I have a website. Yeah, the pictures from your wedding are up there and you can download them at 20 meg per second. Isn't that the promise of the interenet age -- that everybody and his grandmother can put their content online? And why use an inferior service just 'cos it's "free?"
What you discuss is called "Deep Space 9." Flawed characters, tons of mistakes, terrorist organizations, even a villain who kept reinventing himself.
Shit, they even did a whole PATRIOT Act thing (years before it was topical), with squads of Star Fleet commandos combing the earth in search of shape changing aliens who could be anybody. Sisko broke down into a quivering mass at one point -- his father, stubborn as he was, refused to have his blood tested and the captain was forced to admit he was in way over his head.
That was from season 4. It didn't get REALLY good until the beginning of Season 6, when half the station was working for the enemy and trying to subvert it without detection while the other half was leading the war against them. You haven't seen an episode of star trek until you've seen a thousand Romulan, Kilgon and Star Fleet warships, many of them Constitution class, reduced to smoldering rubble by a combined Cardassian and Jemhadar fleet. That's the kind of gripping, "holy shit Star Fleet isn't perfect" TV that can watch again and again.
Apache webserver installations outnumber IIS by two-and-a-bit to one (the actual number varies with time), and how many exploits are there for Apache vs. how many for IIS?
Well, that's kind of an unfair example as well. Comparing IIS to Apache is not apples to apples; it's more like comparing apples to a fruit stand. IIS is WAY more than a webserver that connects to processing modules; it is an ambitious product that also does what PHP, Sendmail, Courier IMAP, Pure FTP, BIND and inetd do, to name a few. Hence the name "Internet Information Service(s)." Very few of the exploits for IIS are due to vulnerabilities in the WWW service, which is the fair analog to Apache. Most of them instead exploit OTHER functionality of IIS, such as scripting, ISAPI integration, and the lax default security model which runs the whole pack of services as LocalSystem (something like local root) and basically allows full access to everything. Any IIS book will tell you not to leave it like that...to create a restricted user and have him execute the various services.
Anyhow, IIS used to outnumber Apache installs, until all these exploits started popping up and people started wondering why the HELL they were operating a fruit stand when all they really needed was a nice juicy peach.
And as for this nugget of joy: Open source software is difficult to interoperate with and not get noticed. Nobody ever thought to conceal anything from anybody, so everything is nice and transparent, and there are few places to hide.
Do you seriously think that somebody looks at every single line of code in every OSS package? The high profile projects have eyes on them, it's true, but the average project is never analyzed except by other developers. Furthermore, a virus author isn't going to stick some trojan into your favorite product...he's going to EXPLOIT a hole already IN your favorite product, and that's no different from the way Windows works.
Sigh. I dunno what's worse: the fact that this kid's an idiot, or that your daughter is attracted to him. Either way, I'd vote "YES" on the next school budget...
Not "unlike personal domains." First off, if you have your own personal domain, you won't NEED to change the email account name. Second off, if you did, every email program on the planet will forward your email if you tell it to, and with much greater granularity than pobox.com Third, you only get ONE username for that $12. If you have six people in your family, the Dolman-Sax family, you can register Dolman-Sax.com and give them all email for way less than the price of 6 pobox.com accounts.
Finally, as I said in my previous message, I used to use an identical service from a company that got bought by iname and it quickly became garbage. They demanded I pay $10 a year for forward dasmegabyte@mindless.com to me, and they also sold it to spammers. Nothing stops pobox.com from being bought out or changing their terms, leaving you with a shitty email address. I have had my das@domainname for five years now, used it on about 6 different servers from 3 different providers and I love it. Got my parents and brother on it too. It's quick, it has POP3, IMAP, spamassassin, squirrelmail, pine...and if it ever goes down, I know who to call.
1) Most people DIDN'T take a UNIX course in 1989. So they will require UNIX training now. If you're looking at the TCO of Linux, you'll have to include this retraining, because if you tell your CFO "we did not include the cost of training because it isn't fair," he won't listen to anything else you have to say.
2) There's knowledge of functionality, and then there's knowledge of how to learn a new function in a given philosophy. 15 years ago, you would click on the Control Panel icon in your Program Manager to change display settings. Today, you click on the Control Panel icon on the start menu to do the same. It's evolved a bit, sure, but so has UNIX. The only thing that's stayed the same are locations of config files and the context of the command line...just like the only things that have stayed the same in Windows are how to MANIPULATE Windows (left, right clicks, application bars, etc) and the names of functions.
Windows is the same way. A lot of components of Windows are written by contractors or by companies bought by Microsoft. Microsoft puts it through their QA and maketing process, to be sure it LOOKS like it belongs in a Microsoft product. But many times the hands that molded the code were not Microsoft bred.
They do this to cut down on research and development time. A good example is Virtual PC. Virtual PC was a great piece of software that was on par if not better than other PC emulation software on the market. Microsoft decided that they were losing money on a good idea (putting Windows onto Macintoshes and making little tiny Windows PCs on other Windows PCs). So rather than start a new program from scratch, they bought the company, and put the programmers to work on the next version.
Actually, the real solution is to take $50 or so and invest in your own domain name and domain based email hosting with a reputable company. By controlling the DOMAIN your email goes to, you have complete control over your email address. If your company goes under, you can move to another one in about 2 days. If your domain provider goes under, you can move your Domain to a new one in about a week. And best of all, you can offer free email accounts to all of your friends and family...free email accounts that you can vouch for, that don't pop up ads everywhere, and that you can control who reads/knows about their existance.
I started my hosting company as a cooperative just so I could get rid of my favorite email "alias," dasmegabyte@mindless.com, which the company providing the alias had sold to spammers when I told them no, I won't give you $10 a month to forward my fucking email with ads at the bottom. Incidentally, I lost a job in 2001 because the hiring staff sent an email to dasmegabyte@mindless.com and I had already dropped that account -- there was too much spam to sort through.
Right. He also could have said that "Open source software is so difficult to interoperate with that worm and trojan developers don't both."
But that would have been kind of a dumb argument, seeing as how it isn't the simplicity of an API that leads to worms, but rather the size of the install base. If Fort Knox didn't have as much gold in it, it wouldn't need as many guards. Writing self modifying, self replicating code under 10k isn't exactly child's play.
Privacy concerns? That's such hogwash. GMail's server reads your email and offers syntactical ads. If it didn't offer the ads, GMail's server would still read your email. So would ever server between the sender AND GMail. Machines read your email all the time. If they didn't, you wouldn't be able to get it. You certainly wouldn't be able to have it checked for spam. Thinking your message is "private" just because the machines don't explicitly tell you they read it is very naive.
Methinks ISPs are using "Privacy Concerns" as a way of keeping customers from leaving their quickly aging service. "Hey look, bearded technology pundits with nothing better to do are upset about ads in a radical new free email service. They're waving the privacy flag. We can wave the same flag and lock people in to viewing our contextually inaccurate ads a little bit longer!"
A fairly crass assessment. But if not for the press, how do you intend to get any information? The media may distort facts, but at least they report them. You can't trust an individual's facts at all. But once you accept the fact that you'll never know the elephant at all unless you hear about from a blind man, you're left with a very simple solution: listen to as many blind men as you can. Read your alternative weekly. Glance at the paranoid ramblings on the internet.
And stop acting like the only choice for new is a single source! I'm sure *YOU* don't just look at Fox News for your facts, so why assume everybody does?
Dude, the guy is an activist for spam email. You know: the shit you can get rid of by pressing the delete key, or en masse by installing SpamAssassin. Easy shit...and yet, this guy is an ACTIVIST for it.
He deserves to be made fun of, he really does. I'd also make fun of Bobby Fisher for his racism, Roman Pulanski for his paedophilia and Mel Gibson for his jesus complex.
Brilliant people who devote their lives to stupid things make GREAT comedy. Ever see the Daily Show sketch with the guy who devoted his life to a Museum of Menstruation?
You're right. Because the first step towards a well informed populous is a media which cannot interview the most knowledgable parties.
Cretin. The answer is neither black nor white. If the press calls and wants your help, help them. If it turns out to be a joke, let them laugh. There's certainly no less nobility in being made fun of than there is in being a jerk.
Child molesters really don't get the support they deserve. Here's a whole class of mentally ill people who are demonized before they even explain themselves. We don't do that for schizophrenics, who can be equally violent. How are they supposed to get help if they're too worried about retribution to even admit they have a problem?
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Fuck that, my offspring are completely entered into the public domain, royalty free and without any warranty expressed or implied.
In short: I'm a deadbeat.
A great product doesn't need much marketing once it's past an initial treshold where prospective buyers come to realize it exists and what its merits are.
This is a bullshit statement which is almost completely untrue. Word of mouth is not an effective means of marketing, because it relies on your product being consistantly better than the competetion in all respects and to all observers. Even if processor speed were a purely objective observation which anybody could recognize, there's still the problem that AMD's marketshare is not sufficient, nor their performance superior enough, to ensure that every consumer has heard of AMD and understand what its processors do, and why they are less expensive than Intel's chips (which are produced more cheaply).
Dropping even a little more mainstream marketing could mean a LOT for AMD. Just a little blurb that says, "hey, hi, we're AMD, we're a decent company and not a nobody" would be sufficient. It might even be enough to convince Dell to let me buy an AMD machine from them. Maybe.
Yeah, and a retarded blog at that. It is high on sci fi FUD, low on reality (like most anti-genetic modification blogs). For one thing, in the event the above happened, the corporation WOULD share the data, rather than face liability. For another, NOT having the data to Wheat 1.0 would make it much more difficult to construct a virus in the first place. It isn't easy or quick to break down a genome, which may be necessary to manufacture a virus. It takes a lot of equipment, a lot of research and a lot of time. That's why most chemical agents are alterations of naturally occuring viruses.
Here's equal time rumination for the other side: what happens when a bio-cracker gets the open source genome to wheat 1.0 and uses this a blueprint to BUILD a virus specially tailored to its genetic structure?
How is Intel going to compete by continuing to offer an inferior product?
I dunno. They'll probably just continue to, you know, sell massively more processors than AMD by "marketing" their processor instead of merely assuming everybody will come to their senses.
It has, after all, worked for at least twelve years.
Uh, the companies that make the phones don't make the towers. They make phones, and it's a cutthroat industry. Cell phone manufacturers cell in bulk to cell phone companies, not direct to consumers, so they sort of have to do whatever they can convince the cell phone company will attract people...which means smaller phones with a nicer look and wild new features, not better reception. Feature sets on new phones push the sales of long term calling plans which in turn is supposed to put up new towers.
Of course, it rarely works out that way. The return from putting up new towers in an area where you already have customers is marginal, especially once you have them locked into a 2 year contract. The return on putting up new towers in areas you don't currently cover, thus increasing your possible customer base, is much more worthwhile. So that's where the money goes, until contract renewals come up in about 2 years. Then a few extra towers will show up.
You *COULD* just come up with a clever name. One people will remember, one that means something to you, one that won't go out of fashion and doesn't make you look like a number in a herd (though yours is by no means as bad as some). With infinite possibilities, many of them spelled correctly and very badass, you should be able to find SOMETHING that defines you, sans numeros.
Oh, and don't use das Megabyte. That's taken.
Well, for god's sake turn off your spam filter. Because that shit is reading your email and generating keyword lists etc. It's profiling your email! Why, the whitelist on your Bayesian filter is FULL of shit you like to talk about. Just think if the cops got ahold of that one!
Heh. i create a circular reference. Domain.com points to domain.net points to domain.org.
I have a lot of trust in my co-loc.
"Constitution class" is what the later Enterprise was. That's the only reason I know it...basically, a thousand enterprises got nuked, k-rad.
Well, it's Garrick the taylor who performs the murder, but yeah, that's a brilliant episode, especially since it's told from the position of Sisko, confessing everything in his captan's log (which he later deletes).
How about the one where the Maquis are poisoning Cardassian planets with a chemical that isn't toxic to non-Cardassians...so Sisko poisons THEIR planets. Actually fires missiles full of poison gas onto them, with the whole crew of the Defiant looking at him like "whoa, dude! way out of line!" The look on O'Brian's face...and the fact that Dax actually refuses the order at first...made this an awesome episode, one that changed your opinion of the captain.
True...but remember, what you get for that ~$50 is complete control over and complete reliability for your email. Something every self respecting "geek" should have. Something EVERYBODY should have.
If they only thing you worry about with computing is COST, then yeah, get a yahoo account. Personally I like being lord host of dasmegabyte.org. I like being able to do whatever the fuck I want. And I like the look people give me when I tell them my email address. Yeah, I run my own server. Yeah, I have a website. Yeah, the pictures from your wedding are up there and you can download them at 20 meg per second. Isn't that the promise of the interenet age -- that everybody and his grandmother can put their content online? And why use an inferior service just 'cos it's "free?"
What you discuss is called "Deep Space 9." Flawed characters, tons of mistakes, terrorist organizations, even a villain who kept reinventing himself.
Shit, they even did a whole PATRIOT Act thing (years before it was topical), with squads of Star Fleet commandos combing the earth in search of shape changing aliens who could be anybody. Sisko broke down into a quivering mass at one point -- his father, stubborn as he was, refused to have his blood tested and the captain was forced to admit he was in way over his head.
That was from season 4. It didn't get REALLY good until the beginning of Season 6, when half the station was working for the enemy and trying to subvert it without detection while the other half was leading the war against them. You haven't seen an episode of star trek until you've seen a thousand Romulan, Kilgon and Star Fleet warships, many of them Constitution class, reduced to smoldering rubble by a combined Cardassian and Jemhadar fleet. That's the kind of gripping, "holy shit Star Fleet isn't perfect" TV that can watch again and again.
Ha! I guess never. Je m'excuse. I was speaking solely from experience, and I should have remembered that anecdotal evidence isn't.
Apache webserver installations outnumber IIS by two-and-a-bit to one (the actual number varies with time), and how many exploits are there for Apache vs. how many for IIS?
Well, that's kind of an unfair example as well. Comparing IIS to Apache is not apples to apples; it's more like comparing apples to a fruit stand. IIS is WAY more than a webserver that connects to processing modules; it is an ambitious product that also does what PHP, Sendmail, Courier IMAP, Pure FTP, BIND and inetd do, to name a few. Hence the name "Internet Information Service(s)." Very few of the exploits for IIS are due to vulnerabilities in the WWW service, which is the fair analog to Apache. Most of them instead exploit OTHER functionality of IIS, such as scripting, ISAPI integration, and the lax default security model which runs the whole pack of services as LocalSystem (something like local root) and basically allows full access to everything. Any IIS book will tell you not to leave it like that...to create a restricted user and have him execute the various services.
Anyhow, IIS used to outnumber Apache installs, until all these exploits started popping up and people started wondering why the HELL they were operating a fruit stand when all they really needed was a nice juicy peach.
And as for this nugget of joy: Open source software is difficult to interoperate with and not get noticed. Nobody ever thought to conceal anything from anybody, so everything is nice and transparent, and there are few places to hide.
Do you seriously think that somebody looks at every single line of code in every OSS package? The high profile projects have eyes on them, it's true, but the average project is never analyzed except by other developers. Furthermore, a virus author isn't going to stick some trojan into your favorite product...he's going to EXPLOIT a hole already IN your favorite product, and that's no different from the way Windows works.
Sigh. I dunno what's worse: the fact that this kid's an idiot, or that your daughter is attracted to him. Either way, I'd vote "YES" on the next school budget...
Not "unlike personal domains." First off, if you have your own personal domain, you won't NEED to change the email account name. Second off, if you did, every email program on the planet will forward your email if you tell it to, and with much greater granularity than pobox.com Third, you only get ONE username for that $12. If you have six people in your family, the Dolman-Sax family, you can register Dolman-Sax.com and give them all email for way less than the price of 6 pobox.com accounts.
Finally, as I said in my previous message, I used to use an identical service from a company that got bought by iname and it quickly became garbage. They demanded I pay $10 a year for forward dasmegabyte@mindless.com to me, and they also sold it to spammers. Nothing stops pobox.com from being bought out or changing their terms, leaving you with a shitty email address. I have had my das@domainname for five years now, used it on about 6 different servers from 3 different providers and I love it. Got my parents and brother on it too. It's quick, it has POP3, IMAP, spamassassin, squirrelmail, pine...and if it ever goes down, I know who to call.
Me, baby. Me.
Two problems:
1) Most people DIDN'T take a UNIX course in 1989. So they will require UNIX training now. If you're looking at the TCO of Linux, you'll have to include this retraining, because if you tell your CFO "we did not include the cost of training because it isn't fair," he won't listen to anything else you have to say.
2) There's knowledge of functionality, and then there's knowledge of how to learn a new function in a given philosophy. 15 years ago, you would click on the Control Panel icon in your Program Manager to change display settings. Today, you click on the Control Panel icon on the start menu to do the same. It's evolved a bit, sure, but so has UNIX. The only thing that's stayed the same are locations of config files and the context of the command line...just like the only things that have stayed the same in Windows are how to MANIPULATE Windows (left, right clicks, application bars, etc) and the names of functions.
Windows is the same way. A lot of components of Windows are written by contractors or by companies bought by Microsoft. Microsoft puts it through their QA and maketing process, to be sure it LOOKS like it belongs in a Microsoft product. But many times the hands that molded the code were not Microsoft bred.
They do this to cut down on research and development time. A good example is Virtual PC. Virtual PC was a great piece of software that was on par if not better than other PC emulation software on the market. Microsoft decided that they were losing money on a good idea (putting Windows onto Macintoshes and making little tiny Windows PCs on other Windows PCs). So rather than start a new program from scratch, they bought the company, and put the programmers to work on the next version.
Actually, the real solution is to take $50 or so and invest in your own domain name and domain based email hosting with a reputable company. By controlling the DOMAIN your email goes to, you have complete control over your email address. If your company goes under, you can move to another one in about 2 days. If your domain provider goes under, you can move your Domain to a new one in about a week. And best of all, you can offer free email accounts to all of your friends and family...free email accounts that you can vouch for, that don't pop up ads everywhere, and that you can control who reads/knows about their existance.
I started my hosting company as a cooperative just so I could get rid of my favorite email "alias," dasmegabyte@mindless.com, which the company providing the alias had sold to spammers when I told them no, I won't give you $10 a month to forward my fucking email with ads at the bottom. Incidentally, I lost a job in 2001 because the hiring staff sent an email to dasmegabyte@mindless.com and I had already dropped that account -- there was too much spam to sort through.
Right. He also could have said that "Open source software is so difficult to interoperate with that worm and trojan developers don't both."
But that would have been kind of a dumb argument, seeing as how it isn't the simplicity of an API that leads to worms, but rather the size of the install base. If Fort Knox didn't have as much gold in it, it wouldn't need as many guards. Writing self modifying, self replicating code under 10k isn't exactly child's play.
Privacy concerns? That's such hogwash. GMail's server reads your email and offers syntactical ads. If it didn't offer the ads, GMail's server would still read your email. So would ever server between the sender AND GMail. Machines read your email all the time. If they didn't, you wouldn't be able to get it. You certainly wouldn't be able to have it checked for spam. Thinking your message is "private" just because the machines don't explicitly tell you they read it is very naive.
Methinks ISPs are using "Privacy Concerns" as a way of keeping customers from leaving their quickly aging service. "Hey look, bearded technology pundits with nothing better to do are upset about ads in a radical new free email service. They're waving the privacy flag. We can wave the same flag and lock people in to viewing our contextually inaccurate ads a little bit longer!"
A fairly crass assessment. But if not for the press, how do you intend to get any information? The media may distort facts, but at least they report them. You can't trust an individual's facts at all. But once you accept the fact that you'll never know the elephant at all unless you hear about from a blind man, you're left with a very simple solution: listen to as many blind men as you can. Read your alternative weekly. Glance at the paranoid ramblings on the internet.
And stop acting like the only choice for new is a single source! I'm sure *YOU* don't just look at Fox News for your facts, so why assume everybody does?
Dude, the guy is an activist for spam email. You know: the shit you can get rid of by pressing the delete key, or en masse by installing SpamAssassin. Easy shit...and yet, this guy is an ACTIVIST for it.
He deserves to be made fun of, he really does. I'd also make fun of Bobby Fisher for his racism, Roman Pulanski for his paedophilia and Mel Gibson for his jesus complex.
Brilliant people who devote their lives to stupid things make GREAT comedy. Ever see the Daily Show sketch with the guy who devoted his life to a Museum of Menstruation?
You're right. Because the first step towards a well informed populous is a media which cannot interview the most knowledgable parties.
Cretin. The answer is neither black nor white. If the press calls and wants your help, help them. If it turns out to be a joke, let them laugh. There's certainly no less nobility in being made fun of than there is in being a jerk.
Child molesters really don't get the support they deserve. Here's a whole class of mentally ill people who are demonized before they even explain themselves. We don't do that for schizophrenics, who can be equally violent. How are they supposed to get help if they're too worried about retribution to even admit they have a problem?