Ha Ha! As a Java programmer, I approve this message. It's a little exaggerated but nonetheless true. You get safety but you have to pay for it with RAM.
"and Developers Don't Want to Deal With It."
They'd rather deflect the blame to the programmers, even when the best programmers still make these mistakes. The Linux kernel has had its fair share of buffer overruns and "out of bounds" security issues and it is written by good programmers. It's even read and reviewed by good programmers. But, the bugs are still there.
The problem is inherent to the language because it is a machine-level problem and C gives you access to the machine.
The way forward is not to throw out the language, but to recognize the cause of the problem and fix it. That's what we do when we find a bug. So the language needs to be updated, at least as an optional feature, so that it is capable of detecting these kinds of problems.
This is not the kind of problem where you can just say, "managers need to hire better programmers." It's been 20+ years and that hasn't worked! It's way past time to fix the problem. You could say developers are negligent because they know the problem exists and refuse to do anything because they just want to redirect the blame away from their favorite language.
This is not the fault of businesses because they've already recognized the need for languages that don't have this problem (Java, Python, PHP, Perl). It is the fault mostly open source developers who insist on using C without fixing the problem.
Did anyone notice that all the lines are commented out? Every line is preceded with "//", as in the highlighted line:// HANDLE __stdcall GetCurrentProcess();
These guys are the first people I'd choose to hire if I had a position to hire them for. I want to work with people who are willing to fight against deception and corruption. They value the good of the people, that's you and me, above everything else, even their own job.
Google and Yahoo can only hire from the available, qualified workforce. Anyone who has been through a degree in Computer Science knows that very few women choose that career path. It's not Google or Yahoo's fault that women don't choose computer careers. I know women who have chosen an IT career path and they are just as competent as the men. Personally, I gladly welcome more women to go into IT and become qualified. But, most women seem to think that IT is too geeky for them. People who write these articles completely miss the real facts. They spread more misinformation and become part of the problem rather than the solution.
Well, I hope HP is smart enough to do what you're saying. But, you just need to look at Windows 8 to see how stupid some companies can be when it comes to providing user interfaces that are substantially different.
What a waste of time, with all the people developing operating systems today. Why would they create a barrier to adoption by introducing an unnecessary learning curve that requires people to learn yet another way to use a computer?
I agree. Their malware products don't detect malware and they consume a large percentage of machine resources doing it. You have to buy Malware Bytes AntiMalware to get good malware detection.
So what do we tell people to do to prevent this type of attack. We need something simple enough that ordinary (non-./ers) can do it. Here's my thoughts:
WPA2 without Wi-Fi Protected Setup (to avoid a vulnerability) A customized SSID not matching: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_table A random pass phrase of 13 characters
Anything else for a simple-as-possible, end-user setup criteria?
Yes I agree those shows on the History Channel are junk. But, they also have good content: Vikings, Hatfield & McCoys, Ancient Discoveries, etc. I don't think I called anyone an idiot. If you took offense, I apologize. I was complaining about the content.
Look, I love shows about ancient aliens visiting the Vikings as much as the next guy. But I still have appreciation for some good satire too.
I understand. But, ask yourself if you're just accepting whatever they decide to put on TV or are you evaluating it against some intelligent criteria? Does good satire have to be as disgusting, revolting, insulting, disrespectful and ugly as they can get away with, or could it be done with a little more class? What do you think other countries think of us when we export the basest kind of entertainment?
Really I can't sit through even a few minutes of that stupidity. I don't understand the fascination with crap like this. Like so many other shows on TV, I block it using my cable parental controls. I can block by time, channel, and rating. But, I say I'm blocking it "By stupidity" because it makes me want to puke. I'm sure most of you will disagree with me, but I don't really care. You can keep watching crap if you want to and I'll stick to the National Geographic and the History Channel. It's a free country. (Yes I know those channels show some junk too, but its best there is to choose from.)
The slashdot.org code is open source. Someone with the time and bandwidth should bring up an alternate site where the community can continue and any needed changes can be made to the comment system to improve it. Just post a link to the new site in all the slashdot comments and we'll go there instead.
It took a long time for database vendors like IBM and Oracle to put their databases
on Linux. Linux as a server didn't happen over night. Linux as a desktop is going to
take a little longer because the UNIX environment it is modeled after is more of a
server OS than a desktop and the desktop is controlled by a monopoly, where the
server market was not. There were many people like you who said that Linux
would never make it as a server too.
Just because Microsoft is the dominant desktop platform today is no reason to give
up on a Linux desktop for tomorrow, even if it is five years down the road, or more.
There is an endless amount of time to develop Linux. Just because it is not a
"focused" effort is no reason for Linux developers to give up with they enjoy working
on. Linux is about doing what you want to do with your computer not getting in line
to fight a war. We don't need to focus. There are plenty of developers willing to
work on both the server and the desktop. Linux is constantly growing in popularity,
especially among developers. It will happen, in its own time. Some government
offices and schools are already removing Windows and adopting Linux on the
desktop to lower costs.
Eventually the demand for Linux desktop apps will be so overwhelming that it can't
be ignored by software companies. That is really how it happened with Linux on the
server. Server software companies were not proactive in putting their software on
Linux, they were reactive to the market. When Linux became nearly the dominant
web server platform, then they ported their software to Linux, because they had to.
That is how it will happen with the desktop. But, it will take longer because there is
a monopoly controlling the desktop. Linux is, in fact, the only effective way to
compete with the monopoly. But, it is a long term process because most Linux
developers don't get paid for their work.
Linux is a slow moving steamroller. It has rolled down Coherent, UnixWare, BeOS,
and SCO OpenServer. It will eventually roll down Tru64 UNIX, AIX, HP-UX,
Solaris, and finally Windows. There is no need to worry about it. It is a self
perpetuating phenomenon.
As the young Linux hackers of today become the vice presidents of technology and
the chief information officers of tomorrow, the world will become a different place.
Think about that. It's a long term process. It's not over today just because
Microsoft is still in the lead. Microsoft is actually in some ways behind Linux on the
desktop.
I really hope that nobody listens to you. I think that most Linux users and
developers are smart enough not to anyway. You're just slowing down the process
even further by publishing your short sighted views.
It really doesn't matter if Linux fails with businesses anyway. It's fun. People will
continue to do it and I will continue to run my desktop on Linux. Either way, we
win. So, you can continue to get screwed by Microsoft if you want to. Just leave
me out of it.
I guess the real reason that your article makes me so angry is that I have waited a
long time for Linux to be as good as it is on the desktop. I use it and it is good
enough that I don't need Windows at all. Windows does not exist on my computer
and that is the way I like it. Your words are a threat to the continuing development
of Linux on the desktop and a threat to the way I work and everything that I work
on. I am not in any way willing to give up my Linux desktop for Windows. That's
just ridiculous!
Linux is not at a turning point. It is on a smooth rising curve, both on the server and
the desktop. It's really annoying when half-way intelligent people write about
something they don't really understand. But, that's the way it has been throughout
Linux's lifetime. People have always been saying Linux will never be good enough
for this or that, but still it continues to grow in all areas.
I want a UNIX-like desktop and there are many people like me who want the
same. Linux is by far the best choice for a UNIX or UNIX-like desktop. I don't
care if Sun always continues to be better for the enterprise. Sun is UNIX. I am very
happy to work with Solaris servers because they make a very good version of
UNIX. Unlike Microsoft, Sun does an execellent job of creating server software.
The idea that Sun is the enemy and not Microsoft is just ridiculous. If Linux is my
desktop and Solaris is my server, that is just fine, as long as neither of them are
Windows. If you want to do something useful for Linux, you ought to write a driver
for Kodak's digital camera.
I think Linus wanted a UNIX-like desktop like I do. The fact that Linux makes a
good server...well...it's UNIX, of course it makes a good server. That's why we all
chose it because it is perfect as both a server and a desktop. It is having a
multitasking, multiuser, mainframe capability server system as your personal
desktop. That's what's cool about it.
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Ha Ha! As a Java programmer, I approve this message. It's a little exaggerated but nonetheless true. You get safety but you have to pay for it with RAM.
"and Developers Don't Want to Deal With It." They'd rather deflect the blame to the programmers, even when the best programmers still make these mistakes. The Linux kernel has had its fair share of buffer overruns and "out of bounds" security issues and it is written by good programmers. It's even read and reviewed by good programmers. But, the bugs are still there. The problem is inherent to the language because it is a machine-level problem and C gives you access to the machine. The way forward is not to throw out the language, but to recognize the cause of the problem and fix it. That's what we do when we find a bug. So the language needs to be updated, at least as an optional feature, so that it is capable of detecting these kinds of problems. This is not the kind of problem where you can just say, "managers need to hire better programmers." It's been 20+ years and that hasn't worked! It's way past time to fix the problem. You could say developers are negligent because they know the problem exists and refuse to do anything because they just want to redirect the blame away from their favorite language. This is not the fault of businesses because they've already recognized the need for languages that don't have this problem (Java, Python, PHP, Perl). It is the fault mostly open source developers who insist on using C without fixing the problem.
Did anyone notice that all the lines are commented out? Every line is preceded with "//", as in the highlighted line: // HANDLE __stdcall GetCurrentProcess();
These guys are the first people I'd choose to hire if I had a position to hire them for. I want to work with people who are willing to fight against deception and corruption. They value the good of the people, that's you and me, above everything else, even their own job.
Google and Yahoo can only hire from the available, qualified workforce. Anyone who has been through a degree in Computer Science knows that very few women choose that career path. It's not Google or Yahoo's fault that women don't choose computer careers. I know women who have chosen an IT career path and they are just as competent as the men. Personally, I gladly welcome more women to go into IT and become qualified. But, most women seem to think that IT is too geeky for them. People who write these articles completely miss the real facts. They spread more misinformation and become part of the problem rather than the solution.
Well, I hope HP is smart enough to do what you're saying. But, you just need to look at Windows 8 to see how stupid some companies can be when it comes to providing user interfaces that are substantially different.
What a waste of time, with all the people developing operating systems today. Why would they create a barrier to adoption by introducing an unnecessary learning curve that requires people to learn yet another way to use a computer?
It certainly is for me. And I appreciate Microsoft for helping out by releasing Windose 8.x and Soreface.
I agree. Their malware products don't detect malware and they consume a large percentage of machine resources doing it. You have to buy Malware Bytes AntiMalware to get good malware detection.
So what do we tell people to do to prevent this type of attack. We need something simple enough that ordinary (non-./ers) can do it. Here's my thoughts:
WPA2 without Wi-Fi Protected Setup (to avoid a vulnerability)
A customized SSID not matching: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_table
A random pass phrase of 13 characters
Anything else for a simple-as-possible, end-user setup criteria?
Yes I agree those shows on the History Channel are junk. But, they also have good content: Vikings, Hatfield & McCoys, Ancient Discoveries, etc. I don't think I called anyone an idiot. If you took offense, I apologize. I was complaining about the content.
the History Channel
Look, I love shows about ancient aliens visiting the Vikings as much as the next guy. But I still have appreciation for some good satire too.
I understand. But, ask yourself if you're just accepting whatever they decide to put on TV or are you evaluating it against some intelligent criteria? Does good satire have to be as disgusting, revolting, insulting, disrespectful and ugly as they can get away with, or could it be done with a little more class? What do you think other countries think of us when we export the basest kind of entertainment?
Really I can't sit through even a few minutes of that stupidity. I don't understand the fascination with crap like this. Like so many other shows on TV, I block it using my cable parental controls. I can block by time, channel, and rating. But, I say I'm blocking it "By stupidity" because it makes me want to puke. I'm sure most of you will disagree with me, but I don't really care. You can keep watching crap if you want to and I'll stick to the National Geographic and the History Channel. It's a free country. (Yes I know those channels show some junk too, but its best there is to choose from.)
The slashdot.org code is open source. Someone with the time and bandwidth should bring up an alternate site where the community can continue and any needed changes can be made to the comment system to improve it. Just post a link to the new site in all the slashdot comments and we'll go there instead.
It took a long time for database vendors like IBM and Oracle to put their databases
on Linux. Linux as a server didn't happen over night. Linux as a desktop is going to
take a little longer because the UNIX environment it is modeled after is more of a
server OS than a desktop and the desktop is controlled by a monopoly, where the
server market was not. There were many people like you who said that Linux
would never make it as a server too.
Just because Microsoft is the dominant desktop platform today is no reason to give
up on a Linux desktop for tomorrow, even if it is five years down the road, or more.
There is an endless amount of time to develop Linux. Just because it is not a
"focused" effort is no reason for Linux developers to give up with they enjoy working
on. Linux is about doing what you want to do with your computer not getting in line
to fight a war. We don't need to focus. There are plenty of developers willing to
work on both the server and the desktop. Linux is constantly growing in popularity,
especially among developers. It will happen, in its own time. Some government
offices and schools are already removing Windows and adopting Linux on the
desktop to lower costs.
Eventually the demand for Linux desktop apps will be so overwhelming that it can't
be ignored by software companies. That is really how it happened with Linux on the
server. Server software companies were not proactive in putting their software on
Linux, they were reactive to the market. When Linux became nearly the dominant
web server platform, then they ported their software to Linux, because they had to.
That is how it will happen with the desktop. But, it will take longer because there is
a monopoly controlling the desktop. Linux is, in fact, the only effective way to
compete with the monopoly. But, it is a long term process because most Linux
developers don't get paid for their work.
Linux is a slow moving steamroller. It has rolled down Coherent, UnixWare, BeOS,
and SCO OpenServer. It will eventually roll down Tru64 UNIX, AIX, HP-UX,
Solaris, and finally Windows. There is no need to worry about it. It is a self
perpetuating phenomenon.
As the young Linux hackers of today become the vice presidents of technology and
the chief information officers of tomorrow, the world will become a different place.
Think about that. It's a long term process. It's not over today just because
Microsoft is still in the lead. Microsoft is actually in some ways behind Linux on the
desktop.
I really hope that nobody listens to you. I think that most Linux users and
developers are smart enough not to anyway. You're just slowing down the process
even further by publishing your short sighted views.
It really doesn't matter if Linux fails with businesses anyway. It's fun. People will
continue to do it and I will continue to run my desktop on Linux. Either way, we
win. So, you can continue to get screwed by Microsoft if you want to. Just leave
me out of it.
I guess the real reason that your article makes me so angry is that I have waited a
long time for Linux to be as good as it is on the desktop. I use it and it is good
enough that I don't need Windows at all. Windows does not exist on my computer
and that is the way I like it. Your words are a threat to the continuing development
of Linux on the desktop and a threat to the way I work and everything that I work
on. I am not in any way willing to give up my Linux desktop for Windows. That's
just ridiculous!
Linux is not at a turning point. It is on a smooth rising curve, both on the server and
the desktop. It's really annoying when half-way intelligent people write about
something they don't really understand. But, that's the way it has been throughout
Linux's lifetime. People have always been saying Linux will never be good enough
for this or that, but still it continues to grow in all areas.
I want a UNIX-like desktop and there are many people like me who want the
same. Linux is by far the best choice for a UNIX or UNIX-like desktop. I don't
care if Sun always continues to be better for the enterprise. Sun is UNIX. I am very
happy to work with Solaris servers because they make a very good version of
UNIX. Unlike Microsoft, Sun does an execellent job of creating server software.
The idea that Sun is the enemy and not Microsoft is just ridiculous. If Linux is my
desktop and Solaris is my server, that is just fine, as long as neither of them are
Windows. If you want to do something useful for Linux, you ought to write a driver
for Kodak's digital camera.
I think Linus wanted a UNIX-like desktop like I do. The fact that Linux makes a
good server...well...it's UNIX, of course it makes a good server. That's why we all
chose it because it is perfect as both a server and a desktop. It is having a
multitasking, multiuser, mainframe capability server system as your personal
desktop. That's what's cool about it.