According To Star Trek: Discovery, Starfleet Still Runs Microsoft Windows (theverge.com)
AmiMoJo shares a report from The Verge: The third episode of Star Trek: Discovery aired this week, and at one point in the episode, Sonequa Martin-Green's Michael Burnham is tasked with reconciling two suites of code. In the show, Burnham claims the code is confusing because it deals with quantum astrophysics, biochemistry, and gene expression. And while the episode later reveals that it's related to the USS Discovery's experimental new mycelial network transportation system, Twitter user Rob Graham noted the code itself is a little more pedestrian in nature. More specifically, it seems to be decompiled code for the infamous Stuxnet virus, developed by the United States to attack Iranian computers running Windows.
Who wants windows to managed their antimatter.
What is with the huge banner that Slashdot lately has? Worse yet, it's floating and moves with scrolling, making it impossible to read anything on a short window. Will Slashdot finally be the site that makes me use adblocking software?
Because one is not the same as the other!
the Klingons will travel back in time to destroy mankind and starfleet by inventing Windows...
captcha: compile. really, slashdot?
Many such Easter Eggs here:
https://moviecode.tumblr.com/archive
Surprise, surprise.
Why ask? It's always "Fail".
The Federation runs Hollywood OS. It's so advanced that it can run legacy code of the 20th century in a bio-quantum context. If you look closely enough you'll see that it can run a languane known as PerlthonJS (to give an example), which, to the untrained eye, looks only like a random mixture of Perl, Python and JavaScript in one source file.
"Everybody's naked underneath" -- The Doctor
Press START to STOP engines.
FATAL EXCEPTION: Warp core dumped!
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
They could've taken the typical Hollywood approach and shown a bunch of green, Matrix-like gibberish scrolling across the screen. I'm choosing to view this more as an easter egg than as a continuity issue.
First time I've heard stuxnet described as "pedestrian."
...but the Hackers did not care: https://news.ycombinator.com/i...
Seriously, is there still a real hacker newssite out there? Something that really is about hacking, not about pushing yCombinator investments?
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Why does Commander Superwoman even need a computer? In episode 2, she doesn't even need a helmet to breathe in space!
According To Star Trek: Discovery, Starfleet Still Runs Microsoft Windows
Better headline: "Whoever creates the tech props for Star Trek: Discovery has a wicked sense of humour" (assuming this really is decompiled Stuxnet code)
Does this mean that the Rebels in Star Wars use Linux?
Nah, the Klingons differ from Trump in too many ways.
Klingons are:
Warriors,
Honorable,
Physically fit,
Tough.
Trump is more like Ferengi,
Cowardly,
Dishonest,
Money grubbing,
Maybe with a touch of Lokai and Bele from Cheron,
(STOS, Let that be your last battlefield)
Fascist,
Racist,
Warmongers,
And, of course, the orange skin coloring of the Edosians.
He's sort of an Edofercherub. A fat, orange, delusional corperatist xenophobe.
Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
It's an idiotic series with no basis in any Star Trek lore. Hell, even fanfic is better.
The Borg are in orbit.
SIR! Our global defense grid just BSOD'ed!
Shit! Someone send the Borg a Linux ISO from a distro that uses systemd!
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
With electronic computers, they were programmed with patch cables, then machine code and finally human readable code. We've been there for 60 years with no progress in computer programming, There have been plenty syntax changes labeled as "new technology" but computer programming hasn't changed in 60 years.
It's all still compiled code and the programmer still has to do all the thinking.
I would hope that in 2 -3 hundreds years, computer science would have progressed further - especially if they're using quantum electromagnetic whatever computers.
I like that they used Stuxnet, knowing that it would be identified within hours after broadcast.
I hate however that generations after me we will have no proper IDE at all, just some editor that has a little code folding and no syntax-aware highlighting at all... What happened to, say, vi?
We all know that StarTrek runs in a parallel universe where OS/2 Warp was the winning OS of the 90's OS Wars. https://youtu.be/WCKr-2EJxE4?t...
I'm looking for a better video by they way.
please, just one topic without this, please. can we just have some fun, please?
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Remember when you could use Code Warrior on your PowerBook to compile code for an alien supercomputer?
antipaucity
Next thing you know you'll be telling me that "Star Trek is telling us that we'll still be using Styrofoam cups in the future"!
Ken
To what, picture-based coding? When exactly did expressing complex ideas in words become old-fashioned?
Computer-generated code has been around for a very, very long time - even if you ignore that that is what assemblers and compilers do for the moment, I've seen many tools where a user chooses actions from a menu and code is created. I once worked for a fairly successful company that had an in-house tool that generated VB code based on user inputs.
Ken
Nice thing is that knowing that whiners are loudest and reading that so many people thinks it sucks, I had set the bar so low that when I watched it I actually enjoyed it.
Mind you the Seth show is provoking more interesting discussions as what previous st has given.
At least they're not still running XP ...
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I'm smarter than you're.
Probably, but your average Hollywood writer is going to invent that Earth shattering advancement in programming language for a TV series? Are there even any theoretical future programing languages being talked about that they could have thrown into the series. There is also the sticky issue of licensing/copyright, which is why a lot of shows avoid anything real world by having the graphics department whip up a few generic screenshots instead of just simply using a computer.
To what, picture-based coding?
Self-programming machines? You tell it what you need and it figures out the rest. If it needs more information, it asks for it.
Ezekiel 23:20
This show is complete tosh.
Damping absorbs vibrations. Dampening is caused by moisture.
No, EMACS is the future.
How many of us are working on machines with mind-bogglingly complex microarchitectures that provide the illusion of a modestly-upgraded 8086 CPU to the software running on them?
If there's one constant in human nature, it's that people will perform feats of astonishing ingenuity and resourcefulness in order to avoid change.
Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
The Equifax hack still infects the 24th century.
They should have used APL. It has a futuristic look, especially if the graphics crew tinker with the character fonts a bit, and in the future the keyboards may be virtual such that editing in APL may be a snap.
Table-ized A.I.
Most of the United Federation of Planets will be running Windows 10 by the year 2300. Just wonder about which edition they will be on. Build number 666.666, star date 12345?
another prequel. and not even canon.
If it is decompiled code for stuxnet, that means they published an excerpt without copyright licensing?
Does this excerpt fall under fair use because of its length or is it in violation of it and thus possible for the originators of stuxnet to sue CBS/Paramount/Whoever over violating their copyright?
Would be hilarious and a big FU to hollywood if true.
That said, how come there isn't more critiquing of how bad Discovery is? It's like fucking 'Doom' set in the Trek universe. Or maybe a prequel to the JJA Star Trek, rather than the original trek universe?
Interestingly someone mentioned Brannon Braga and some other old Trek guys are working on 'The Orville' now, so maybe ole Seth will pull it off instead. As much as others have bashed his acting skills, he's at least at the same caliber as Shatner, which makes him perfect for a half serious/half parody of Star Trek.
No Mudd? Not even just a little?
geek. lawyer.
...of what makes systemd.
systemd: "We are systemd. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."
The Borg: "That thing even incorporates its own DNS service?!? Damn, we are indeed doomed..."
Before I couldn't get over the fact that the consoles on the bridge would explode in their faces but now I realize this was just a metaphor for Windows exploding. ;)
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
please, just one topic without this, please. can we just have some fun, please?
The fun starts in the backlash of Nov 4th (Antifa are plotting to slaughter white people because racism and anti-Trump sentiment, which is sure to make commie-bashing fashionable again.)
Well, that would explain Starfleet losses at... basically every massed battle they've ever had.
"Raise shields!"
"Sir, all our screens are saying "Just a moment" with a little rotating circle!"
"Oh crap, is it Tuesday?"
Ship blows up, seen from space, accompanied by a "Boom!!!" for no reason whatsoever.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Maybe the Enterprise was successful when so many other ships were blown to hell because Scotty was an Ubuntu fan.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... In the Star Trek fictional universe, LCARS (/ËÉlkÉ'Ërz/; an acronym for Library Computer Access/Retrieval System) is a computer operating system. Within Star Trek chronology, the term was first used in the Star Trek: The Next Generation series.
Red Alert: Microsoft marketing opportunity, battle stations!
Wouldn't be surprised at all, if close-ups of screens started showing a Win 10 look-alike.
Microsoft becomes corporate sponsor, after CBS subscription revenue fails to meet expectations.
They've got fraternizing in the ranks, and families onboard (like TNG+, but actually delving into the familial issues.)
Additionally in regards to Discovery: Fucking replicators pre-TOS? And ACCURATE TRANSPORTER TECHNOLOGY? Neither of those things were supposed to exist until after TOS. The automat or whatever in TOS was supposed to just take real ingredients and process them to make food, with like officers getting real chef prepared food occasionally. The computers didn't talk/think for themselves until TNG era if I remember correctly, although Enterprise might have retconned that before Discovery did. The proto-section 31 blackops stuff could fit in with trek, and honestly the Discovery's captain (and that commander who isn't his first officer he is fraternizing with) are some good morally ambiguous characters. I am assuming as the story progresses they are going to turn into anti-hero or straight out villains as the slippery slope of best intentions without proper oversight lets them go out of control, training day style. However, following Burnham is turning out to have exactly all the negatives people were commenting about months ago. The dumb redhead with all her touchy feelings bullshit, that just makes her sound like a vapid bitch. Burnham's preachy behavior until she violates her own rules seemingly without realizing it herself (both the initial flyby, fight with the klingon if she could have escaped (who I will note was explicitly there to provoke a response, and given that he shattered her suit's faceplate and nearly killed her before she fought back, she was validated in fighting and killing him), and the two away team missions of just her and the captain, both the original on the desert planet and the second where the captain gets killed. This was really trek at its dumbest. If one looks at Kirk/Picard era, while they did often go on away teams together, they normally DID NOT go into hostile away team missions on their own. The missions where they went without a couple redshirts, or lower ranking specialists was generally missions where it was expected to be a peaceful interaction or exploration or was politically sensitive enough that only the most experienced/accomplished officers were involved in order to help minimize a political conflict. Additionally someone would almost always speak up about the risk of having a major portion of the chain of command risking itself on such an away mission, sometimes kirk or picard would brush it aside, other times they would agree and delegate it to the second in command, or someone lower ranking (it seems like worf or data or laforge lead more than a few away team missions because there was concern over Picard and/or Riker going down instead.) Point being the Shenzen seemed horribly unprofessional, and Burnham's 7 years as a first officer makes one wonder just how incompetent the Starfleet depicted in this series is, especially given how many ships they lost in that standoff with the klingons leading to war.
There was an email story that got passed around about uploading the first copy of windows to the borg, who would begin adapting to it, as they successively uploaded later versions of it, before finally microsoft's fleet of lawyers came and destroyed them under copyright infringement paperwork for all the unauthorized copies of windows the borg has duplicated in the course of adapting to each new version of windows integrated into their collective.
Hopefully someone else can find it and provide a citation and/or quotation of it.
So the Warp Drive is a Siemens centrifuge running an old SCADA that can easily be Studnex-ed into the Blue Screen of Containment, as long as the .nyet libraries are up to date.
"Full ahead impulse."
"Aye, sir. Oh no, wait, UPDATES... We're going nowhere,sir!"
Windows is Warped - at "10" they've gone to plaid!
Ferrengis don't fit either - they make profit - not bankruptcy.
Creimer is this your long lost brother. Instead of spamming affiliate links he takes it one step further and spams landing pages. Nice.
The Animated Series came out, TNG came out, DS9 came out (B5 ripoff!), Voyager came out, etc etc.
Similiar thing with Star Wars, although in that case, extended universe between the 70s and late 90s trumped the post ROTJ 'LucasFilm' material, although much of the LucasArts (IE videogames and EU licensed works) and much of the fanfiction was of a similiarly good of quality if it kept to storylines 'smaller' than the theatrical themes (IE no world destroyers, super-super star destroyers, new death stars, etc.) In a number of cases authors coming from either the fanfiction or 'contract pick an extended universe' pool for other major RPG/media franchises (Stackpole for instance with Wasteland the videogame, then Battletech for a number of years before graduating to Star Wars, if I remember correctly. Also a much better story developer than Lucas with lots of funny characters and cameos without making it turn into a parody of itself like Lucas did with the prequels and then Disney did with the new sequels.)
Sadly as longer copyrights have proven, whether you were a Tolkien fan, a Trek fan, or a Wars fan, the time to fork your favored work and expand it with people who still believe in it in its original creative context, rather than the 30 year later corporate whored version run by people, even sometimes original people, whose views have changed enough to change or retcon the original work, need to lay their passion for it to rest and instead collectively work together on a new creative work following in the spirit they felt the original served, and find a way to help it remain in community hands, uncoopted by people with no passion, context, or respect for the original works and continuing the universe created in them and follow on works that the fans felt passionate about, even if they were considered canon by the licensing authority (see Trek and Wars fiction, much of which fleshed out facets of the universe the original works ignored or only made vague references to. Or hell, languages like Klingon or Drow (From what I understand the Tolkien copyrights have interfered with that for people wanting to expand Sildaren or whatever it is called, as they also have to a lesser degree with Drow and Klingon, both of which have either gotten official expansion through written works or tacit approval for non-commercial expansion of the languages for creative fan works.)
Regardless now is the time for the creative revolution. Throw aside these old universes and pool together the same passion and work towards a similiar but legally independent creative universe, creative commons licensed, so that the community can build it through multimedia ventures into something approaching the breadth of star trek, star wars, babylon 5, battle star galactica, middle-earth, or whatever your favorite fictional and still in copyright universe is. Now is the time to do so, so your children can be brought up or introduced to it in place of disney, or tolkien, or universal, or mgm, or whoever else's creative universes which they rule with an iron fist. Get your kids creating new stories they can share with others. Licensed properly you can both offer the opportunity to commercialize their own works in the universe, while still leaving open the door for others to reference their works, or take small excerpts for continuity, weaving together a tapestry of creative works that could last generations.
I'm sadly not creative enough to found this world myself, but the potential is there for an FOSS movement for media and media franchises that could help eventually cripple and render impotent the sickness that is Hollywood and the *AA enforcement agencies lobbying/strongarming for them.
If you can't beat them with laws, or lobbying, beat them with innovation :)
We examined Stuxnet code using Linux. Then we ran it in a VM using Windows.
Just because the code is Stuxnet does not mean the the OS was Windows.
For the sake of accuracy, Stuxnet was a joint project between the US and Israel.
I am curious whether the US and Israel received royalties for the use of their copyrighted material. The decompiling of it seems like it might be a bit in the legally grey area too.
Subject says it all.
Did anyone notice that all the lines are commented out? Every line is preceded with "//", as in the highlighted line: // HANDLE __stdcall GetCurrentProcess();
This was basically the criticism about Janeway. Not so much that she was a women, but rather that they overcompensated a great deal. She was Captain and expert in everything... Not sure why they even bothered with the rest of the crew other than to have people for her to talk with as she seemingly just did everything by her self. All other Star Trek crews had clear delineation of expertise and they would work as a team to solve whatever solution was needed... Heck in STTNG they even split off Kirk's 3 primary skills, 1) Command, Picard obviously, 2) Gorn destroying double axe handle fighting technique, Worf, and 3) The ability to slut around with alien lifeforms, Riker. This seems more of the same as Janeway the one woman wreaking machine other than she was *supposed* to be a Captain, but due to her trying to save everyone by herself (sound familiar), now has no rank.
Also I'll raise a Vulcan eyebrow at the addition of interstellar telepathy to the repertoire of her apparent skills... Though her neck pinch skills must suck if her former Captain simply woke up after a couple minutes.