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According To Star Trek: Discovery, Starfleet Still Runs Microsoft Windows (theverge.com)

AmiMoJo shares a report from The Verge: The third episode of Star Trek: Discovery aired this week, and at one point in the episode, Sonequa Martin-Green's Michael Burnham is tasked with reconciling two suites of code. In the show, Burnham claims the code is confusing because it deals with quantum astrophysics, biochemistry, and gene expression. And while the episode later reveals that it's related to the USS Discovery's experimental new mycelial network transportation system, Twitter user Rob Graham noted the code itself is a little more pedestrian in nature. More specifically, it seems to be decompiled code for the infamous Stuxnet virus, developed by the United States to attack Iranian computers running Windows.

237 comments

  1. Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by physburn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who wants windows to managed their antimatter.

    1. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't want it to manage the turbolifts or even whatever they use for toilets. If the best the federation has is Windows, I'm joining up with the Romulans.

    2. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't want it to manage the turbolifts or even whatever they use for toilets. If the best the federation has is Windows, I'm joining up with the Romulans.

      Closed environment?

      Smug sense of superiority?

      Apple!

    3. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who wants windows to managed their antimatter.

      What's worse... if Windows manages their computer; Cortana (aka Clippy 2) is probably the voice control controlling the computers. That bitch cortana is who my grand kids will have to talk to if they want their "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot". This makes me sad.

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    4. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by zifn4b · · Score: 2

      Who wants windows to managed their antimatter.

      The antimatter containment chamber has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

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    5. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      This makes a core dump a much more exciting event.

    6. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Romulans are still using OS/2.

    7. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The ship's computer seems to have gone through some fairly drastic changes over the years.

      Enterprise: No voice interface, apparently people got fed up with Alexa and Siri by the next century.

      Discovery: Young female voice borrowed from an early 21st century sat-nav.

      Original Series: Lost her voice again, people finally realized that touch interfaces and transparent screens are dumb and reverted to good old reliable 12V bulbs and switches.

      Next Generation: The computer is a bit older and wiser now, and everything reverted to flat screens and touch panels.

      Deep Space 9: CRTs are back in fashion, complete with curved display.

      Voyager: Why does the ship even need people any more?

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    8. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      if it works, don't mess with it.

      Go ahead, hack OS/2, I want to see you try.

    9. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Hey it is 200 years in the future. We should have by then what the sales people promised us for Windows 95.

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    10. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Hey even in Voyager they realized the good old buttons and switches were a good thing. But it seems that these touch panels in the TNG-Voyager day, seems to offer some low level force fields so the operator can feel something. (In the voyager alternate reality (one of them)) where Tuvok was blind, so he enable tactile controls.)

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    11. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by nomadic · · Score: 1

      It's not really Star Trek unless those consoles blow up constantly, killing their operators.

    12. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by fuzznutz · · Score: 1

      Hey it is 200 years in the future. We should have by then what the sales people promised us for Windows 95.

      C'mon this is supposed to be the bright future. Maybe they have the bugs worked out of Windows 10 by then. Now that I think about it, CBS and Microsoft missed a golden opportunity for marketing synergy. They could rebrand Windows 10 Enterprise, to Windows 10 Discovery

    13. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      DS9 gets a pass. That was a Kardashian station so it had whatever was hip at the time. Yes, I know, Cardassians.

    14. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Why do starship designers love to route plasma conduits behind control panels?

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    15. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by knightghost · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see how much China paid CBS for the show. The entire pilot was a propaganda piece.

    16. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by The+Grassy+Knoll · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Cannot convert matter to anti-matter. It is already in use by another object."

      Meh.

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    17. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      Why do starship designers love to route plasma conduits behind control panels?

      Collusion with the Romulan Star Empire.

    18. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      C'mon this is supposed to be the bright future. Maybe they have the bugs worked out of Windows 10 by then. Now that I think about it, CBS and Microsoft missed a golden opportunity for marketing synergy. They could rebrand Windows 10 Enterprise, to Windows 10 Discovery

      That's like saying "maybe beetles, worms, and flies will have the bugs worked out by then." You can't work a bug out when the thing is the bug.

    19. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would not be surprised if there's at least some chinese investment in the program. they've got their grubby paws on and/or in a lot of western media, properties and companies.

    20. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for their Warp Drive controllers.

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    21. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by TechnoWeenie · · Score: 1

      Maybe this explains all the problems with the holodeck on TNG

    22. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Dracos · · Score: 2, Funny

      That was a Kardashian station so it had whatever was hip at the time.

      That was a Kardashian station so it had whatever was ass at the time.

      FTFY.

    23. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      We are the Bug. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your food and carbohydrates to our own. Your farming will adapt to service us. Bug spray is futile.

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    24. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thread winner.

    25. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by perpenso · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why do starship designers love to route plasma conduits behind control panels?

      They need the power, there is a background task mining federation coins.

    26. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Original Series: Lost her voice again

      Huh? They talked to the computer all the time on TOS.

      It had that ethereal, echoey female monotone voice: "Wor-king... in-suf-fic-ient da-ta to com-pute..."

    27. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Orville runs OSX. The new Klingons run CP/M. The Ferengi run red hat enterprise.

    28. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      Huh? They talked to the computer all the time on TOS.

      It had that ethereal, echoey female monotone voice: "Wor-king... in-suf-fic-ient da-ta to com-pute..."

      If I recall...that was the same voice that did Nurse Chapel.

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    29. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because Cardassian systems are all based on the Commodore 64 and everything is written in BASIC.

    30. Re: Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the Jeffries tubes are on the other side. You can get a 2 for 1 deal if someone is doing maintenance on the other side.
      Jeffries was a perv that liked the idea of people crawling his tubes - an upgrade to the gerbils he was used to.

    31. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DS9 gets a pass. That was a Kardashian station so it had whatever was hip at the time. Yes, I know, Cardassians.

      That explains the boob population.

    32. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Genuinely curious to know in what ways you thought it was a "propaganda piece" I have to admit that I didn't see it. Maybe I'm a dupe, I don't know!

    33. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Borg run z/OS!

    34. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by northerner · · Score: 1
      >appears to be decompiled code for the infamous Stuxnet virus

      And the code is apparently used for the controllers in the centrifuges used for Warp drive anti-matter purification.

    35. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by TimSchutte · · Score: 1

      . . .And I'll be damned if I'll pay extra to CBS' streaming service to watch it!

    36. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by cb88 · · Score: 1

      Why else would that TurboLift have been chomping that leg/boot like no tomorrow... I wouldn't even be supprised if it was a Borland TurboLift.

    37. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by cb88 · · Score: 1

      The Q run Perl on QNX.

    38. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Antimatter not set to an instance of a matter"

      oh god damnit.

    39. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Bajorans run GNU/HURD.

    40. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      . . .And I'll be damned if I'll pay extra to CBS' streaming service to watch it!

      Have to agree...

      I'd absolutely watch this if it were on Netflix, Amazon, or Hulu. I refuse to pay for CBS service though. Two reasons:

      1) I don't want to pay more when I have so many shows I haven't seen on the other networks.
      2) The principle. Paying for CBS service helps support the splintering of streamed TV online. If I pay- that partially contributes to the potential success of CBS's experiment. If CBS is successful then every other network is going to follow the same model. Eventually you'll end up with a dozen different streaming sites all wanting $x a month and end up paying the same as cable.

      Anyone paying for CBS to watch this is doing the rest of us a massive disservice.

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    41. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      Anyone paying for CBS to watch this is doing the rest of us a massive disservice.

      You mean I get to piss off nerds WHILE WATCHING STARTREK? Sign me up.

    42. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by slickwillie · · Score: 1

      "The Ferengi run red hat enterprise." I'll bet the bastards didn't pay for it.

    43. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Anyone paying for CBS to watch this is doing the rest of us a massive disservice.

      You mean I get to piss off nerds WHILE WATCHING STARTREK? Sign me up.

      Not just nerds... everyone. We all stand to lose out if every network decides to charge $7 a month to view their stuff. If all the networks pull their old stuff off Netflix, Amazon and Hulu and set up their own to-pay site. You either have a lot less choice- or pay a lot more money. If CBS is successful in this all the networks will do something similar.

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    44. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm serious. In what way?

    45. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Hey even in Voyager they realized the good old buttons and switches were a good thing.

      On the other hand... From Rick and Morty, Season 3, Episode 1: The Rickshank Rickdemption:

      Teleportation Worker Rick: Hey, whoa, whoa! What are you doing in here? This area's for teleporting the entire Citadel to somewhere else using only buttons and dials.

      Commander in Chief Rick/Rick: Yeah, well, it's a bad idea to have it designed that way then, isn't it?

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    46. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I read somewhere, can't provide a link, that before she passed away, Majel Barrett made comprehensive records so they could synthesize a computer voice using her voice in the future. It's a cool idea, if true. She always did the computer voice great.

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    47. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The Bajorans run GNU/HURD.

      Good to hear it'll finally be ready in the 2300's.

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    48. Re: Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's probably why they are using cent OS. All the goodness without paying a dime.

    49. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Original Series: Lost her voice again

      That's not true. The computer spoke in ToS, maybe just not in every episode. Remember it saying things like "Working!" and "Affirmative!" in that grating, obnoxious voice?

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    50. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the end of this season, the Federation will lose a war due to Windows. With their last photon torpedoes, they leave a crater where the MS HQs used to be, and from then on the Federation will use Linux. And then we start winning again.

    51. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey even in Voyager they realized the good old buttons and switches were a good thing. But it seems that these touch panels in the TNG-Voyager day, seems to offer some low level force fields so the operator can feel something. (In the voyager alternate reality (one of them)) where Tuvok was blind, so he enable tactile controls.)

      I think in Voyager's case it was more that the least unqualified person they could find to design the pilot's controls was still pretty unqualified.

      Remember when Tom got a speeding ticket and the flight instructor had that list of design flaws he pointed out?

    52. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Gene R was not involved, it's NOT Star Trek, it's a crappy-ass wanna-be!!!!!!

    53. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jemmyw · · Score: 1

      you could move out of the USA. The It's being shown on Netflix here.

    54. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      The antimatter containment chamber has performed an illegal operation ....

      fixed it for you.

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    55. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Even the Federation ships had a downgrade though. Look at the screens in the runnabouts.

      They switched from using backlit static panels and compositing to using live displays on CRTs. For some reason they didn't bother with flat CRTs though, even though they were available at the time. Probably due to cost.

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    56. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      It'll pass, there's a fixed amount people can spend on entertainment so they will end up stepping on eachother's toes at some price point, then they will start competing with eachother on price.

      Things don't get cheaper, they get more expensive and inflation goes up, but this part is already priced in - what people were paying for cable is what it will level out at.

      The issue was allowing poor people to have disposable income, there's not putting genie back in the bottle.

    57. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      you could move out of the USA. The It's being shown on Netflix here.

      I could... but then I would pay double income tax. I got my US citizenship a few years ago before learning that the US is the only country in the world that collects income tax from citizens who emigrate. If I moved back to Europe I'd pay my income taxes there and then my US income taxes on top of that. Would have to be a huge pay raise to cover the double taxation.

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    58. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      It'll pass, there's a fixed amount people can spend on entertainment so they will end up stepping on eachother's toes at some price point, then they will start competing with eachother on price.

      Things don't get cheaper, they get more expensive and inflation goes up, but this part is already priced in - what people were paying for cable is what it will level out at.

      The issue was allowing poor people to have disposable income, there's not putting genie back in the bottle.

      I hope so, but I'm not optimistic. Look at what happened to cable prices. I think a lot of people that still have cable are paying upwards of $100 a month. I'm baffled why anyone would spend that much to watch TV, but the cable companies manage to convince some people to pay that much. I think if cable companies can extract that much- the individual streaming services might be hoping to get a significant chunk of that cash from the cord cutters.

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    59. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If its running Windows, it would be more like

      "Cannot convert matter to anti-matter. No free license available, please buy more at your next visit to Starbase Redmoon'd."

    60. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by SandWyrm · · Score: 1

      I have yet to see anyone invent a flat cathode ray tube (CRT) display. :P

      The Federation obviously uses absurdly high-power plasma display panels though, since they're always blowing up at the least little thing.

       

    61. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If I moved back to Europe I'd pay my income taxes there and then my US income taxes on top of that.

      You sure about that?

      http://www.ustaxfs.com/individ...

      "The US will give credit for foreign taxes paid, however, they will only give credit against income up to the amount of taxes you would pay for US tax purposes."

      While I'm sure it's more complicated than that (especially if you have income from property and stuff), it looks like you pay UK tax if that's higher. If UK tax was lower the US would tax you the difference.

      I suspect it's the same for most other countries.

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    62. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      If I moved back to Europe I'd pay my income taxes there and then my US income taxes on top of that.

      You sure about that?

      http://www.ustaxfs.com/individ...

      "The US will give credit for foreign taxes paid, however, they will only give credit against income up to the amount of taxes you would pay for US tax purposes."

      While I'm sure it's more complicated than that (especially if you have income from property and stuff), it looks like you pay UK tax if that's higher. If UK tax was lower the US would tax you the difference.

      I suspect it's the same for most other countries.

      I'm not an expert on international tax law; however how I recall it works is this (I could be wrong):

      1) Yes, the US will let you just pay UK income tax if you're making a low wage- and the first umpteen thousand £ you don't have to pay double taxes on.
      2) Anything above that first umpteen thousand £ the US government WILL come after you for.

      If you're not earning much. Early in your career, or just never climbed the ladder much, you won't pay double taxes. If you're doing a little bit better than average on up- you get both countries milking you.... now I could be wrong and the UK have a better agreement with the US than other countries- but I believe that's how it works most places.

      The US is one of the countries that will allow you to revoke your citizenship; however, it costs money, and it's considered illegal to revoke your citizenship just to avoid taxes.

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    63. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Yes, the US will let you just pay UK income tax if you're making a low wage- and the first umpteen thousand £ you don't have to pay double taxes on.

      Not my interpretation, but there you go.

      You can get an exemption on the first 100k. Hardly low wage.

      https://www.taxesforexpats.com...

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    64. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      I have basic cable because it was cheaper (they were the only source of internet for me aside from super slow satellite providers.) The only use of it I make is sometimes logging in to stream something on Fox (though CBS not allowing this for my provider is absurd because CBS is included with the basic package.) I think it's like $70/mo for the internet connection and I probably do another $300/mo on movies, binge watching shows, etc mostly via Amazon. Definitely paying more than a full $175 cable package (for my area) but it's still much higher quality content, I don't need 500 channels I'll never watch and my schedule doesn't allow me to sit down at the same time every week to catch something (regardless of whenever that time might be.)

    65. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that a Kim Kardashian station?

    66. Re:Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have yet to see anyone invent a flat cathode ray tube (CRT) display. :P

      Don't confuse flat-screen with flat-panel displays.

    67. Re: Blue Screen of Antimatter containment failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free. Free worldwide except for the usa

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    1. Re:Slashdot Ads by supremebob · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Hell, even this post feels like an ad for the new Star Trek show.

      I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

    2. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

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    3. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      Resistance is futile.

    4. Re:Slashdot Ads by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Was kind of hoping for some interesting discussion about the show. It's very different... The captain from the first two episodes was a model Starfleet officer, trying to avoid conflict and do the right thing. Now we are getting echos of Section 31 and doing what it takes to win the war.

      The Federation itself perhaps has not reached that level yet. Life imprisonment doesn't sound very enlightened, especially when the crime was largely poor decision making. Of course, in reality she was actually correct and the Klingons would have started the war no matter what, but the court didn't know that. Had she succeeded in destroying that ship the war might actually have been averted.

      Star Trek usually considers the moral and philosophical implications of choices, but so far there has been very little of that in Discover. Okay, we are only 3 episodes in so probably too early to judge.

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    5. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >Star Trek usually considers the moral and philosophical implications of choices, but so far there has been very little of that in Discover

      That would be science fiction. CBS isn't in the sci-fi business. Hell, they're not even in the 'sci-fi veneer on something else' business. They're mainly in the 'procedurals with some action for the over 40 crowd' business.

      They really ought to have sold off the Star Trek TV rights, it's not in their wheelhouse.

    6. Re:Slashdot Ads by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's very different... The captain from the first two episodes was a model Starfleet officer, trying to avoid conflict and do the right thing. Now we are getting echos of Section 31 and doing what it takes to win the war.

      You're right that it's different, but there's also an issue with the main character that bugs me which is that she's got a way too broad range of skills based on the first episodes. Like just as an example in the 2 first episodes she twice beat a Klingon warrior in single combat while having no previous experience of fighting them, and being smaller. I get that the show wants to emphasize that she's a supergenius and raised by the Vulcans in science and martial arts, but still, I was expecting her character to be a modern take on Spock, not a deadly warrior-princess archetype that goes around instantly kicking everyone's ass. Really the ending of the 2nd episode was a really big blunder in my view from the point of view of writing. I mean, she first tells the captain that they should seek to capture the Klingon leader not kill him so as to not make him a martyr. Okay, makes sense. How do the plan to do it? By beaming to the klingon ship with no backup, just the 2 of them with phasers, 2 women against a shipload of gigantic space Mongol-superwarriors, and then when the captain is killed, instead of doing the logical thing which is retreating hell out of there, she violates her own advice and shoots the Klingon captain dead, essentially causing their mission to be a total failure while also making the death of her captain counter-productive. From a story point of view how're we supposed to feel that she's ever in any danger when she's already demonstrated in the first few episodes that no matter what she's up against and with how little previous experience, she'll get through just fine.

      I mean, I get that they're playing round with the notion that she's not a Vulcan so her emotions do take over from time to time, that's ool, and that can function as a neat narrative device, however it's really rather annoying to watch a character that's supposed to be like the smartest person in the whole of Starfeet give out advice on what to do, and then violate her own advice 5 minutes later. Likewise in the beginning she goes to have a look at an unknown artifact that they have no scans on and no idea how hostile it is and instead of doing a flyby like she was instructed, she instantly goes 'wow, this is pretty, I'm going to land on it', runs into a Klingon and kills him in 5 seconds. Is this the Vulcan approach? Is this what Spock would have done? Is this the kind of discipline the Vulcan academy teaches to their students?

      That being said, I think the show can still go into a good direction, we'll need to wait and see. So far it's a tad too much like the Abrams films, which is to say that it looks neat and has a lot of action that probably appeals to a larger audience, but it doesn't feel very Trekky to me yet.

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    7. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2

      > the main character that bugs me which is that she's got a way too broad range of skills

      That is standard for Trek. They give lip service to specialization, but when you get down to it the lead character always knows what the technical people are doing and can micromanage them if they're not actually just doing it themselves.

      > in the 2 first episodes she twice beat a Klingon warrior in single combat while having no previous experience of fighting them, and being smaller.

      Modern television. Nobody wants to point out that a petite female has to have far, far superior training plus some luck to take out a large male... physics itself can take a flying leap because nobody's even paying attention to mass, inertia, or leverage in these matchups never mind muscle. Also, since TNG it has been traditional in Trek to beat up a Klingon to show how badass you are.

      Trek science is usually only marginally better than what you'd find in a Michael Bay movie.

    8. Re:Slashdot Ads by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

      We probably aren't. 100% of my knowledge of this show comes from Slashdot. I'm not stupid enough to pay money for a service that still shoves ads down my throat, particularly for just one show. I'm not interested enough to yoink it. So I live vicariously through marketing astroturf fluff.

    9. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

      We probably aren't.

      We definitely aren't. Gave up trying to find a way to pay them to see it and then torrented it.

    10. Re:Slashdot Ads by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They really ought to have sold off the Star Trek TV rights, it's not in their wheelhouse.

      Your criticism of CBS may be correct, I don't really have a basis to evaluate it. But I would argue we do not live in a time when the masses will tolerate an idealistic utopian future, the philosophical dilemmas inherent in bringing it about and real people trying to be better than we expect.

      We live in a time when pragmatists and self-centered behavior is idolized, when war and violence are seen as ideal tools for solving difficult social problems, and when letting people die because they're not us is ok as long as we don't say it out loud. People acting on idealism are viewed as ridiculous and naive and with utmost contempt. That's not compatible with any of the Star Trek series I've liked.

      I guess I don't think we're living in a time when Star Trek could be successful, even if it were holding itself to its ideals. They really should just sell the IP and the new owners should sit on it for a little while, while we wallow in our self-imposed cess pit for a decade or two. After a few decades we're going to realize that pragmatism may not be that great after all.

    11. Re:Slashdot Ads by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Two Klingons? She killed one on the Klingon ship after beaming aboard, but the only other one I remember was the one she accidentally impaled during the first encounter in space suits.

      You are right about the ending of the second episode, it could have been better.

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    12. Re:Slashdot Ads by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      What is with the huge banner that Slashdot lately has? Worse yet, it's floating and moves with scrolling, making it impossible to read anything on a short window.

      Uhm, looks like any other site whatsoever if your browser lacks the basic configuration+extensions?

      Seriously, these days it's humanly impossible[1] to browse without blocking ads.

      [1]. As in, "impossible without losing your sanity[2]", not "strictly impossible", obviously.
      [2]. Ok, Slashdot readers and sanity, uh uh sure sure. But same applies to other websites.

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    13. Re:Slashdot Ads by itamihn · · Score: 1

      I am fine with the ads in most websites. The worst offenders these days are Slashdot with their tall floating banners and Cnet with their autoplaying videos.

    14. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >I guess I don't think we're living in a time when Star Trek could be successful

      I think perhaps you have that backwards. Sure, we're still producing 'gritty/dark', but I think we're on the tail end of that as audiences often want to escape reality and get a taste of something different - which can simply entertain or be inspirational - and the world's been a bit too gritty and dark recently.

      I'd say now is actually a great time to start popping out the idealistic stuff, but maybe not quite as simplistic as it used to be. Not every idealist has to be deeply and secretly flawed... but they do have to deal with a realistic world where not everything goes their way just because they're 'fighting the good fight'. (And I'd throw the current MCU Captain America and DC Wonder Woman up as decent examples of this)

      A lot of entertainment presents an idealized individual who encounters no serious barriers because everyone more or less falls under the spell of their righteousness in 60 minutes less commercial breaks, and that's just stupid on too many levels to take.

    15. Re:Slashdot Ads by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

      Yes, in fact this gives me another reason not to watch it. I don't think I ever will now. For the record, I loved STNG and DS9. It's a shame.

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    16. Re:Slashdot Ads by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I am fine with the ads in most websites. The worst offenders these days are Slashdot with their tall floating banners and Cnet with their autoplaying videos.

      I don't go to CNET anymore because of that... and I've considered cutting out Slashdot. (don't get your hopes up too much though)

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    17. Re:Slashdot Ads by zifn4b · · Score: 2

      We live in a time when pragmatists and self-centered behavior is idolized, when war and violence are seen as ideal tools for solving difficult social problems, and when letting people die because they're not us is ok as long as we don't say it out loud.

      So... what you're saying is it would be more accurate to have a Sci-Fi show called Extinction Event. That wouldn't be any fun though because we all know generally what the ending would be...

      By the way, idealism won't fix that problem. You must focus not on utopia and ideals but rather on what will avoid the extinction event. The two are not one in the same. Believing they both are is a claim that has no evidence to support it that I'm aware of. But... whatever delusion gets you through the day I suppose.

      If you want to make the world a better place, you need to get engaged in problem solving. That was always the idea in Star Trek. There were these social issues, moral and philosophical dilemmas and so forth and what happened is people worked through them together in a problem solving capacity. No one ever said "The world would be much better if it were just like the uber X utopia." It was an exploration of thought to see how far you could push towards ideals. That's where idealists fail. They think they already know what a utopia is and what it would be composed of and everyone who doesn't see it is stupid and/or immoral. It's not a destination. It's an iterative process and we can't realize our true potential if people want to distance themselves from actual problems rather than getting engaged to help solve them.

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    18. Re:Slashdot Ads by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      Like just as an example in the 2 first episodes she twice beat a Klingon warrior in single combat while having no previous experience of fighting them, and being smaller. I get that the show wants to emphasize that she's a supergenius and raised by the Vulcans in science and martial arts, but still, I was expecting her character to be a modern take on Spock, not a deadly warrior-princess archetype that goes around instantly kicking everyone's ass.

      It seems like Ronda Rousey would have been the best choice for the role then.

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    19. Re:Slashdot Ads by cryptolemur · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd like to point out that it was petite captain Georgiou who was fighting the klingon, and in the end lost mainly due to the mass/power difference. Burnham shot the klingon from behind to her captain, so differences in mass, power, gender or race did not really have any effect in that regard.

      One way to look at the same story is that this allegedly superb Star Fleet officer accidentally killed the klingon she was trying to make contact with, and then in haste shot the klingon she really needed to capture alive. So, instead of being all-powerful, unbeatable hero she actually messed everything up and turned a solvable confrontation into a war.

    20. Re:Slashdot Ads by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I hope you are right. I am not sure though. As much as I would like to see "some little children helping their mommies" on TV again I don't see it heading there.

      So far the effort seems to be how to go glittery and darker; or how to make the formerly wholesome like "Archie and Veronica" into some dark murder conspiracy. Heck they are supposedly bringing a 'dark' version of "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" to TV.

      Now maybe this is Hollywood lagging behind in terms of responding to audience desires. Hopefully that is true, but I kind of doubt it. The name of the game seems to be how to shock them without triggering FCC fines. Look at the shows that had all the buzz this year; some of that is misleading after all things like Award shows are industry circle yerks but still.

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    21. Re:Slashdot Ads by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think your memory of Star Trek is a little shaky. The usual formula was:

      1) Kirk arrives at some planet and encounters some culture supposedly more primitive than the Federation.

      2) Some moral delima is presented, with little real ambiguity in terms of justice, and kinda obvious parallels to our real culture. For example hatred between people who are black on the left and white on right, vs black on the right and white on the left.

      3) Kirk gives some lecture about how humanity moved passed all this.

      4) A contrived action scene where some red shirted folks die. Nobody will be held responsible ultimately.

      5) Kirk somehow either explains how the cultures current path will lead to their total destruction or in some cases threatens to bring it about himself.

      6) everyone sings kumbaya

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    22. Re:Slashdot Ads by theweatherelectric · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess I don't think we're living in a time when Star Trek could be successful

      Maybe the The Orville will be successful. Even with the comedy aspect to it The Orville is more Star Trek than Star Trek is these days.

    23. Re:Slashdot Ads by theweatherelectric · · Score: 1

      For the record, I loved STNG and DS9.

      Try The Orville.

    24. Re:Slashdot Ads by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I guess I don't think we're living in a time when Star Trek could be successful

      Especially when it is closeted away on some branch stream service.

      I will watch them someday when/if the series is licensed to Netflix. Until that day, I guess I won't be seeing the new Star Trek... This despite the fact that I am a fan and continue to watch old episodes of TOS, STTNG, DS9 and Voyager several times a week.

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    25. Re: Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Her punishment is even more insane than that. The Klingons fired first! What happened on the bridge of the shinzou had no bearing on the order of events. If anything, even the federation's most apathetic defense attorney should have pointed out that her mutiny at worst had no effect on the massacre, and in retrospect, might have saved lives had it succeeded. Admittedly, I haven't watched the 3rd episode yet, but pinning the war on her seems a leap to far.

      What if, instead, the court martial had said a variation of "In hind sight, your decisions may have saved lives, but you are Starfleet. We hold ourselves to the highest standards. Mutiny aboard a Starfleet vessel is unheard of. While we on the court martial may believe that you had only the best outcome for Starfleet in mind, mutiny, assaulting a superior officer, and attempted unprovoked murder of a Klingon ship are unacceptable, you are therefore sentenced to 10 years at a rehab colony."

    26. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      >As much as I would like to see "some little children helping their mommies" on TV

      This fall on NBC - 'Equalizer, Jr."

    27. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot, why can't I quit you?

    28. Re:Slashdot Ads by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Midnight's Edge did a fantastic analysis, and Red Letter Media (of Mr. Plinkett Phantom Menace review fame) detailing the LONG list of problems with STD:ADHD. (STOP with the fucking lens flare and visual diarrhea already!)

      Like many /.'ers, I grew up with TOS / TNG. The problem with Star Trash: Disaster is that isn't Trek by Alex Kurtzman's own admission:

      Alex Kurtzman (executive producer): First and foremost, the defining factor of Roddenberry's vision is the optimistic view of the future and the idea that he envisioned a world where all species, all races came together not only to make our world better, but to make every world better. I think that that's something that can never be lost in Trek. I think once you lose that, you lose the essence of what Star Trek is.

      That being said, we live in a very troubled times and every day we look at the news and it's hard. It's hard to see what we see and I think that now more than ever, Trek is needed as a reminder and a buoy for what we can be, the best of who we can be.

      That mantle has been given to The Orville which is the spiritual successor to Trek IMHO. Episodes 3 and 4 of the Orville are classic Trek themes.

    29. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the part where he looses his shirt and bones some green chick.

    30. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      They're mainly in the 'procedurals with some action for the over 40 crowd' business.

      Uh, people over 40 are the ones who grew up on Star Trek TOS and TNG - exactly the opposite of "procedurals with some action." It is the millennial generation that suffers from the neurotic disorder compelling them to receive some form of stimulation from an electronic screen 24x7. Their attention span is so crippled that they can't watch a TV show that doesn't have something blowing up, a chase, or a fight often enough to keep their endorphins flowing non-stop. Millennials make everything insufferable. Don't blame us, who were doing things differently for centuries before you just fine, thank you.

    31. Re:Slashdot Ads by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to agree that I am pleasantly surprised about the Orville. A lot of the Low Brow Humor had been toned down, and the stories seem to move well, and are interesting, and the characters are likable. Is it realistic dark and gritty... No, but I don't watch Star Trek for a dark future, but for a fun one. Well managed Camp that we had in TOS, STNG and even in DS9 made the show enjoyable.

      The Orville seems to be done with Heart and Love of what Star Trek use to be, While Discovery seems like a money grab, with the Artistic flair to make the Reviewers love it, however it just isn't that engaging as a normal viewer who after a long day at work, wants to watch something to make you feel calm and relaxed.
       

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    32. Re:Slashdot Ads by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      > I guess I don't think we're living in a time when Star Trek could be successful,

      Are you talking Financially? Hollywood accounting aside, they made money off the Reboot.

      * Star Trek (2019) = $257 million (US) + $385 million (world) - $150 million (budget) = $492 million
      * Into Darkness (2013) = $228 million (US), $467 million (world) - $190 million (budget) = $505 million
      * Beyond (2016) = $158 million (US), $343 million (world) - $185 million (budget) = $316 million

      That said, even though Beyond made money it was considered a flop. It remains doubtful if there will be a sequel -- people are getting tired of STD:ADHD.

    33. Re:Slashdot Ads by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been enjoying The Orville too. I just find it funny that so many people who seem to hate Discovery for the "touchy feely crap" and "forced diversity" seem to love that show.

      Last week the away team was three women, a man and a genderless robot. Two of the women had a long conversation about their feelings. There was also a domestic conflict subplot. The week before that it was an all-male society that considered the female gender to be a handicap in need of medical intervention, loads more feels there. Before that it was more domestic conflict when an ex-married couple are forced together in an apartment/zoo, and a female member of the crew has a crisis of confidence that she needs to talk out at length.

      In comparison Discovery is very business-like and direct.

      I think Discovery could keep with the ideals of Trek. Remember the war in DS9, it was fascinating to see how that kind of enlightened society dealt with a major conflict. Hopefully they will bring the moral issues that made that great into Discovery as time goes on.

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    34. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

      What exclusive? There is nothing wrong with The Pirate Bay, it is there already.

    35. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Life imprisonment doesn't sound very enlightened

      Well, it sounds better than the death penalty in "The Cage" for traveling to the wrong planet.

    36. Re:Slashdot Ads by maelkum · · Score: 1

      I will watch them someday when/if the series is licensed to Netflix.

      Well, you can start today. Star Trek Discovery already is on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/pl-en/...

    37. Re:Slashdot Ads by CrankyFool · · Score: 1

      In countries other than the US and Canada.

    38. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's funny that everyone complains that CBS gave the internet exactly what it wanted. If you are only watching Star Trek and zero other shows it's still only like a $1.50 an episode for the season. If you enjoy watching their other stuff or their backlog of shows then it's even more valuable. This is exactly what was coming from the al a cart demands of everyone.

    39. Re:Slashdot Ads by tbannist · · Score: 1

      I've been enjoying The Orville too. I just find it funny that so many people who seem to hate Discovery for the "touchy feely crap" and "forced diversity" seem to love that show.

      It's probable that Alex Jones doesn't know about The Orville yet, so they haven't been told that they're supposed to hate it yet.

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    40. Re:Slashdot Ads by houghi · · Score: 2

      Perhaps she went to the Vulcan version of an Online University.

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    41. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What concerned me about the "forced diversity" angle of ST:D was that I was going to be preached and lectured at as if I was reading my facebook feed. Star Trek has always presented diversity as just something that's there and it's only really an issue when cultural obligations overlap with job obligations. Picard at least, always made a point that Starfleet trumps your personal culture if and when that overlap occurs. Multiculturalism is fine, but the ship and her crew are more important than your beliefs. Hardly an SJW talking point.

      ST:D is still in its infancy but so far has not lectured me on anything.

      The third episode of Orville was good, but also too easy. South Park has tackled social issues in much more challenging and clever ways without losing its funny aspect. I was somewhat disappointed with the Orville in that sense as I felt like they had a great oppurtunity to be intellectually challenging by presenting females in the Moclan race as a genuine disability equivalent to down syndrome, forcing the humans and other multi-gendered races to work around their cognitive dissonance. Instead, Moclan females turn out to be just normal Moclans that are disadvantaged because of Moclan culture. And it was of course, humans who proved this point to a Moclan court by using the last-minute-witness routine.

      Yes yes it's Seth MacFarlane, but you can have great social commentary while still maintaining yourself as a comedy show. Just as George Carlin.

    42. Re:Slashdot Ads by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Are you talking Financially?

      As I am not a shareholder, I could not care less about that. If your point is that pragmatically financially successful things will keep getting made until they aren't financially successful enough to warrant more investment bucks, you'll get no debate from me, that's fact.

      This is all how we run a franchise into the ground. Very similar to how wall street runs corporations into the ground. Unimaginative, but very practical. The next most unimaginative but practical thing is to try to revive a franchise that was previously run into the ground by holding onto the IP for years and then reboot it when you think the moment is ripe. Somewhat higher risk, but people can bound it with some accuracy and make a successful pitch. Still stupid, still unimaginative, but some money can be made. Great for them.

    43. Re:Slashdot Ads by freeze128 · · Score: 2

      ...and she was court-martialed for it. Her poor choices led to consequences. I don't see a problem with that. In fact, it's a nice break from previous treks where officers disobey direct orders of a commanding officer, and they don't even get a day in the brig. I guess the ends justify the means a little too much.

    44. Re:Slashdot Ads by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Yup, I 100% agree with your analysis about constantly running IP into the ground.

      It is sad how "Greed becomes a cancer that destroys everything it touches." :-/

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    45. Re:Slashdot Ads by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Insightful

      /Oblg. "STD is so bad it isn't even worth pirating!"

      Well, I wasn't going to watch either (Yet-Another-Stupid-Paywall) but a friend had CBS access and they _still_ chose to download the torrents so they could watch it across ALL their devices. (Go Figure!) I borrowed their USB stick so I could watch it on my 60" Plasma.

      I 99% agree with Midnight's Edge's analysis, and RedLetterMedia's review about STD:ADHD.

      If CBS hadn't been trying to leech onto the Star Trek name I think more fans would be wiling to cut it some slack as just another "Sci-Fi" show. But going back and rewriting history is a slap in the face to many fans. This is one of the same reasons Enterprise failed -- show us something NEW _past_ Picard.

      It is interesting to note that according to Rotten Tomatoes fans only give it 60% while the spiritual successor to Trek, The Orville has 90%.

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    46. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      You missed the part where Kirk is held captive, and where Kirk (or on at least two occasions, Spock) seduces a woman,

      Also, they didn't sing Kumbaya, McCoy or Kirk made some vaguely racist comment at Spock's expense, Spock would raise an eyebrow, Kirk and the bridge crew would chuckle, and then the end credits would role.

      Simpler times, man, simpler times.

    47. Re:Slashdot Ads by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      > the main character that bugs me which is that she's got a way too broad range of skills

      That is standard for Trek. They give lip service to specialization, but when you get down to it the lead character always knows what the technical people are doing and can micromanage them if they're not actually just doing it themselves

      Except for Riker who always got annoyed when the doctors or engineers would go into lengthy technical discussions.

    48. Re:Slashdot Ads by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      ROLE? ROLE? Damn it.

    49. Re:Slashdot Ads by JackieBrown · · Score: 2

      If CBS hadn't been trying to leech onto the Star Trek name I think more fans would be wiling to cut it some slack as just another "Sci-Fi" show.

      This is exactly why I haven't watched it. I read an article the other day about how dark, gritty, and cynical the show is. The article was acting like this was a great thing. That's fine. I loved Farscape which was pretty cynical in nature. Even BSG was great for a good half its run. But they stood on their own so I was cool with whatever tone they wanted to take

      SGU is a great example of cashing in yet betraying a franchise. It could have easily been it's own show and I probably would have loved it (or at least liked it.) But taking the stargate franchise into such a bleak, hopeless direction was unacceptable. The way the military was portrayed in the show also changed drastically. To make things worse, the creators of the show had loud disdain for the fans that did not appreciate the change and refused to make any more of SG1 or SGA movies to punish us - I forget how they worded it but basically if we didn't tune in to support SGU, they wouldn't support more SG1 or SGA

      DS9 was a good middle ground for star trek. It took things darker without destroying the Trek atmosphere and feel.

    50. Re: Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US.

      For the rest of the planet we can watch it on Netflix.

    51. Re:Slashdot Ads by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Star Trek usually considers the moral and philosophical implications of choices, but so far there has been very little of that in Discover

      That would be science fiction. CBS isn't in the sci-fi business. ...

      Too true. Furthermore, The Federation is suppose to be a society without money, yet Star Trek: Discovery (STD) is the first Star Trek series we must explicitly pay to watch.

      (Note: I'm not paying CBS to watch one show (even if it came with a Happy Meal and a hand-job).)

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    52. Re:Slashdot Ads by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I thought that the majority of Slashdot users decided that they weren't going to watch this show when they made it exclusive to CBS's new streaming service?

      I've been reading the posts here, and to this point the majority of them aren't related to the new show at all... so I see no conflict.

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    53. Re:Slashdot Ads by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You're right that it's different, but there's also an issue with the main character that bugs me which is that she's got a way too broad range of skills based on the first episodes.

      This was the problem I had with Voyager as well. I thought Kate Mulgrew did a good acting job with the role was given; but the writers seemed a little too hell-bent on making her the master genius of every discipline known to human-kind.

      To be fair, as the show progressed they seemed to move away from that a little bit.

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    54. Re: Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The court martial was about the mutiny - she did attack her commanding officer after all.

      The accusation of starting the war (which are incorrect) have been made by rank and file crewmates in the 3rd episode. They probably are happy to have a person to blame and are not too concerned with details (which they heard via the rumor mill).
      That's mostly realistic.

      The only real problem IMHO is that the life in prison sentence seems unreasonable for an enlightened future semi-utopian society.
      Even though her acts are wrong in the eyes of Starfleet (and certainly unlawful) - her motivations were selfless and should be part of the sentencing considerations.
      Giving her the same sentence as a pirate who murdered half the crew makes no sense.

    55. Re:Slashdot Ads by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      "That mantle has been given to The Orville which is the spiritual successor to Trek IMHO"

      Agree. The Orville feels like Trek. But, Trek in the REAL world, where people tell off color jokes and don't take themselves so damn seriously all the time. I don't miss the pontificating, and at least in The Orville it comes in a wrapper of humor.

    56. Re: Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something new past TNG and Voyager is not realistic.

      The tech goes too far. Transwarp, anti-Borg Multi-Randomized-Phasers, Instant holo-comms across the galaxy - the galaxy is getting too small and the tech too far-out to be manageable for a series about exploration. Starfleet was already allied with or dominating 3 quarters of the galaxy and the Borg got beat in the 4th.

      Galaxy hopping gets stupid fast.

      There are good reasons why the last 2 series opted to go to earlier times in the timeline and the JJA movies branched into the Kelvin timeline - also in an earlier time.

      Discovery is off to a decent start IMHO. Look at the ship number and get some of the hints and you might see that they picked an interesting area of the ST history.

      YMMV but I'm very interested in where they are going with.

      It helps that I'm outside North-America and therefore in Discovery-On-Netflix land (CBS All Access would annoying me too)

    57. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Trek has started out as an idolisation of technology and human sacrifice for the greater good, not just because of good and honest writing, but also due to abysmal and terrible actor performance. Decent actors would rebel at most of the characters in every show, but you don't produce cheap TV hiring good actors..

      Yet, the writing behind have again and again produced entertainment for those "seekers" that do seek deeper meaning and thinking, though you'd often need to watch a season or two in order to see each series unique approach to pretty much the same drivel repeated over and over again. It's bad TV, but entertaining the mind when you go into it.

      I'm hoping we'll see deeper structures in this series as well. Up till now there's been multiple dimensions underneath a pretty shallow and flat TV show, but you have to look for it.

    58. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vulcans are inhuman!

    59. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But I would argue we do not live in a time when the masses will tolerate an idealistic utopian future"

      No, we're just tired of SJW BS.

    60. Re:Slashdot Ads by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      This Side of Paradise

      Best since ever, where Spock beats the living shit out of Kirk.

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    61. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the only thing Star Trek about those movies was their name

    62. Re:Slashdot Ads by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      3) Kirk gives some lecture about how humanity moved passed all this.

      So in order to arrive at utopia what we need to do is build a time machine, ask Kirk for a prescription and come back to the present and give it to the masses then?

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      We'll make great pets
    63. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Onions release lots of gas, in my intestines. When it eventually leaves my anus, it smells bad.

    64. Re:Slashdot Ads by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I just find it funny that so many people who seem to hate Discovery for the "touchy feely crap" and "forced diversity" seem to love that show.

      Could it possibly be because tO is taking the piss out of all that crap, rather than forcing it down our throats for real?

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    65. Re:Slashdot Ads by maelkum · · Score: 1

      It's also available in, for example, Poland (as you can guess from the "pl-en" part of the URL).

    66. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > then in haste shot the klingon

      It was explicitly shown how she changed the phaser setting from stun to kill. It's so stupid it's baffling. That's what you get with Alex Kurtzman writing, I guess.

    67. Re:Slashdot Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > DS9 was a good middle ground for star trek. It took things darker without destroying the Trek atmosphere and feel.

      Ehh, it lost me when all that prophet business came into full force, when Dukat's daughter died. Whatever her name was, "Seig Heil"? Yeah, that's it.

  3. DO NOT CONFUSE DECOMPILE WITH DISASSEMBLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because one is not the same as the other!

    1. Re: DO NOT CONFUSE DECOMPILE WITH DISASSEMBLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Autistics are so cute.

  4. In a later episode... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    the Klingons will travel back in time to destroy mankind and starfleet by inventing Windows...

    captcha: compile. really, slashdot?

  5. A Code Day In Hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Many such Easter Eggs here:
    https://moviecode.tumblr.com/archive

  6. So the Borg won? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Surprise, surprise.

  7. Abort, Retry, Fail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why ask? It's always "Fail".

  8. Hollywood OS by iTrawl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Federation runs Hollywood OS. It's so advanced that it can run legacy code of the 20th century in a bio-quantum context. If you look closely enough you'll see that it can run a languane known as PerlthonJS (to give an example), which, to the untrained eye, looks only like a random mixture of Perl, Python and JavaScript in one source file.

    --
    "Everybody's naked underneath" -- The Doctor
    1. Re:Hollywood OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It needs more 3D spinning things.

    2. Re:Hollywood OS by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I presume it has an interpreter for that.

      Did you know that a core feature of the AS/400 is the ability to link together modules from different languages? Maybe they are powered by IBM.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re:Hollywood OS by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      The Federation runs Hollywood OS. It's so advanced that it can run legacy code of the 20th century in a bio-quantum context.

      That maybe so however it is a little to obvious to just presume that Data is running Android, it's more likely that he is running a Beowulf cluster of Rasberry Pis. It's a potentially embarrassing plural but Data won't get offended.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    4. Re:Hollywood OS by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Interstellar Business Machines?

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    5. Re:Hollywood OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No results found for PerlthonJS
      Showing results for Pearl thonGS

  9. Windows XP runs the warp core by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Funny

    Press START to STOP engines.

    FATAL EXCEPTION: Warp core dumped!

    --
    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    1. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, it's fine. They always have 20 backup warp cores in storage seemingly.
      Warp cores are more disposable than sonic showers.

    2. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      FATAL EXCEPTION: Warp core dumped!

      To be fair, depending on your shirt colour the scenario leading up to the warp core being dumped often is quite fatal.

    3. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      It maybe fine for you, but dilithium is a rare source of plot devices in Starfleet, Mister! And the last thing you want is windows update to happen while the ships AI is drawing entropy from quantum fluctuation to randomly rotate shield frequencies to protect from the Borg who use a proprietary GUI over an Operating Systems technology they assimilated.

      You might think this is funny however you most certainly DO NOT want Anti-Virus software to start while you are in a transporter and the last thing I want to see before the last thing I see is a blue screen of death while I'm trying to launch a photon torpedo because then we will need the help from those green blooded nerds from Vulcan who all use "Open Source Software" in their "Star Ships" because it's more "logical".

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    4. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

      It's been upgraded from Windows 95 and 98 after they had to reboot the spaceship every (earth) 49.7 days.

    5. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      FATAL EXCEPTION: Warp core dumped!

      Isn't that the *non*-fatal kind of Star Trek exceptions? I thought you were usually in more trouble when something happened and you *didn't* dump the core.

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    6. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      From one of Kirk's speeches: "Four warp cores and seven light years ago..."

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    7. Re:Windows XP runs the warp core by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      FATAL EXCEPTION: Warp core dumped!

      Isn't that the *non*-fatal kind of Star Trek exceptions? I thought you were usually in more trouble when something happened and you *didn't* dump the core.

      I've always wondered how they would get far enough away from an exploding warp core for it too make any difference!?

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  10. At least it's actually code! by cmseagle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They could've taken the typical Hollywood approach and shown a bunch of green, Matrix-like gibberish scrolling across the screen. I'm choosing to view this more as an easter egg than as a continuity issue.

    1. Re:At least it's actually code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm disappointed that there's not been more evolution in programming to be honest. I'd like to think that Ada Lovelace would barely recognize python and therefore would want starfleet to be using something sufficiently more advanced that we've seen.

    2. Re:At least it's actually code! by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My take too - it's a cute touch, and they must have known what the code was when they used it or they would have just have grabbed something vaguely appropriate from the OSS code base - like the use of NMAP in The Matrix, and many similar examples since - or gone down the gibberish/pseudo code route. I think most directors are well aware by now that with high-def. video anything like that put up on the screen will be subjected to a freezeframe and analysis, so you either need to make it relevant or an easter egg if you want to avoid some mockery. Since we clearly don't have any actual code to deal with the analysis of quantum lifeforms yet, that just leaves the easter egg.

      --
      UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
    3. Re:At least it's actually code! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      They could've taken the typical Hollywood approach and shown a bunch of green, Matrix-like gibberish scrolling across the screen.

      Ironically from your quote the only example of actual hacking in the matrix was using legitimate hacking tools performing a legitimate hack.

    4. Re:At least it's actually code! by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I'm disappointed that there's not been more evolution in programming to be honest.

      CBS would DRM the shit out of it!

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    5. Re:At least it's actually code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not code, it's just comments. Every line is prefixed //.

    6. Re:At least it's actually code! by McGruber · · Score: 1

      I'm choosing to view this more as an easter egg than as a continuity issue.

      A real easter egg would have been to show the DeCSS code.

    7. Re:At least it's actually code! by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      They could've taken the typical Hollywood approach and shown a bunch of green, Matrix-like gibberish scrolling across the screen. I'm choosing to view this more as an easter egg than as a continuity issue.

      How in the world would you have seen it as a continuity issue regardless of how they presented the code?

    8. Re:At least it's actually code! by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Code normally has copyrights. So they cannot just grab some code and throw it up on screen. Hence, they make up something they think looks good. It was brilliant to use malware code. What, is some government agency going to try to get paid by publicly admitting they wrote it?

      --
      Your ad here. Ask me how!
    9. Re: At least it's actually code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously Python is the pinnacle of programming languages - they just have more and better libs in the std lib and managed to finally remove the GIL early in the 22nd century with the help of the Vulcan Academy.

    10. Re:At least it's actually code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe one motivation for using Stuxnet is not having to worry about anyone claiming the copyright.

  11. Well, that's a first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First time I've heard stuxnet described as "pedestrian."

  12. Was posted to HackerNews yesterday... by grungeman · · Score: 1

    ...but the Hackers did not care: https://news.ycombinator.com/i...

    Seriously, is there still a real hacker newssite out there? Something that really is about hacking, not about pushing yCombinator investments?

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    Signature deleted by lameness filter.
  13. Computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does Commander Superwoman even need a computer? In episode 2, she doesn't even need a helmet to breathe in space!

  14. According To Star Trek: Discovery... by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According To Star Trek: Discovery, Starfleet Still Runs Microsoft Windows

    Better headline: "Whoever creates the tech props for Star Trek: Discovery has a wicked sense of humour" (assuming this really is decompiled Stuxnet code)

    1. Re:According To Star Trek: Discovery... by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      "decompiled code" or simply source code? lol

    2. Re:According To Star Trek: Discovery... by Guybrush_T · · Score: 1
  15. The other Universe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that the Rebels in Star Wars use Linux?

  16. Re:But the klingons by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Nah, the Klingons differ from Trump in too many ways.

    Klingons are:
    Warriors,
    Honorable,
    Physically fit,
    Tough.

    Trump is more like Ferengi,
    Cowardly,
    Dishonest,
    Money grubbing,

    Maybe with a touch of Lokai and Bele from Cheron,
    (STOS, Let that be your last battlefield)
    Fascist,
    Racist,
    Warmongers,

    And, of course, the orange skin coloring of the Edosians.

    He's sort of an Edofercherub. A fat, orange, delusional corperatist xenophobe.

    --
    Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
  17. Kill it already. by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's an idiotic series with no basis in any Star Trek lore. Hell, even fanfic is better.

  18. The Federation is DOOMED! by Chas · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Borg are in orbit.
    SIR! Our global defense grid just BSOD'ed!
    Shit! Someone send the Borg a Linux ISO from a distro that uses systemd!

    --


    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
    1. Re:The Federation is DOOMED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that's not even funny. Doesn't even make sense.

      Is it true that all assholes that support Trump (or given your country are Extreme Right) are also against SystemD???

      That's been my experience so far. Plenty of things to hate and you choose....systemd??? Let me guess, its the mexican of the init world and it took yer job, right? Amirite???

    2. Re:The Federation is DOOMED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually it turns out that systemd is the core of the Borg hive mind. It was transported into distant past, far, far away on an bootable Linux USB stick by a sub-reddit phenomenon.

    3. Re:The Federation is DOOMED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit! Someone send the Borg a Linux ISO from a distro that uses systemd!

      Just send them a Gentoo Handbook and stage3 tarball, it'll take them forever to assimilate that!

    4. Re: The Federation is DOOMED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whooooooooosh

  19. Re:At least it's actually code! - in22nd century?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With electronic computers, they were programmed with patch cables, then machine code and finally human readable code. We've been there for 60 years with no progress in computer programming, There have been plenty syntax changes labeled as "new technology" but computer programming hasn't changed in 60 years.

    It's all still compiled code and the programmer still has to do all the thinking.

    I would hope that in 2 -3 hundreds years, computer science would have progressed further - especially if they're using quantum electromagnetic whatever computers.

  20. Stuxnet is fine, but by k2r · · Score: 1

    I like that they used Stuxnet, knowing that it would be identified within hours after broadcast.

    I hate however that generations after me we will have no proper IDE at all, just some editor that has a little code folding and no syntax-aware highlighting at all... What happened to, say, vi?

    1. Re:Stuxnet is fine, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      emacs happened.

    2. Re:Stuxnet is fine, but by k2r · · Score: 1

      Khaaaaaaaaaan!

    3. Re:Stuxnet is fine, but by scourfish · · Score: 1

      I'm glad that in the future, people still understand the fundamentals of software development enough to use command line. Vim is the future.

    4. Re: Stuxnet is fine, but by Richjesusstallman · · Score: 1

      Seems like someone wants a skull fucking....

    5. Re:Stuxnet is fine, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You take that back! Emacs FTW!

  21. WRONG !!!! by martiniturbide · · Score: 1

    We all know that StarTrek runs in a parallel universe where OS/2 Warp was the winning OS of the 90's OS Wars. https://youtu.be/WCKr-2EJxE4?t...

    I'm looking for a better video by they way.

  22. Re:But the klingons by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    please, just one topic without this, please. can we just have some fun, please?

    --
    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  23. Code Warrior beat it 20 years ago by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

    Remember when you could use Code Warrior on your PowerBook to compile code for an alien supercomputer?

  24. What's next? by kenh · · Score: 1

    Next thing you know you'll be telling me that "Star Trek is telling us that we'll still be using Styrofoam cups in the future"!

    --
    Ken
  25. Re:At least it's actually code! - in22nd century?! by kenh · · Score: 1

    To what, picture-based coding? When exactly did expressing complex ideas in words become old-fashioned?

    Computer-generated code has been around for a very, very long time - even if you ignore that that is what assemblers and compilers do for the moment, I've seen many tools where a user chooses actions from a menu and code is created. I once worked for a fairly successful company that had an in-house tool that generated VB code based on user inputs.

    --
    Ken
  26. Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice thing is that knowing that whiners are loudest and reading that so many people thinks it sucks, I had set the bar so low that when I watched it I actually enjoyed it.

    Mind you the Seth show is provoking more interesting discussions as what previous st has given.

  27. The military finally upgrades! by scunc · · Score: 1

    At least they're not still running XP ...
    --
    I'm smarter than you're.

  28. Re:At least it's actually code! - in22nd century?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably, but your average Hollywood writer is going to invent that Earth shattering advancement in programming language for a TV series? Are there even any theoretical future programing languages being talked about that they could have thrown into the series. There is also the sticky issue of licensing/copyright, which is why a lot of shows avoid anything real world by having the graphics department whip up a few generic screenshots instead of just simply using a computer.

  29. Re:At least it's actually code! - in22nd century?! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    To what, picture-based coding?

    Self-programming machines? You tell it what you need and it figures out the rest. If it needs more information, it asks for it.

    --
    Ezekiel 23:20
  30. Star Trek: The SJW Generation by newdsfornerds · · Score: 2

    This show is complete tosh.

    --
    Damping absorbs vibrations. Dampening is caused by moisture.
    1. Re:Star Trek: The SJW Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Trek was always about social justice.

  31. Stuxnet is fine, but: Emacs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, EMACS is the future.

    1. Re:Stuxnet is fine, but: Emacs by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      How about we just throw the VIM and EMACS people into a pit to fight to the death, winner gets eaten by a lion - that way we can end this stupid debate once and for all while using real IDEs?

  32. Seems plausible given our experience. by hey! · · Score: 1

    How many of us are working on machines with mind-bogglingly complex microarchitectures that provide the illusion of a modestly-upgraded 8086 CPU to the software running on them?

    If there's one constant in human nature, it's that people will perform feats of astonishing ingenuity and resourcefulness in order to avoid change.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  33. The Truth of the story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Equifax hack still infects the 24th century.

  34. Clippy, Engage! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    They should have used APL. It has a futuristic look, especially if the graphics crew tinker with the character fonts a bit, and in the future the keyboards may be virtual such that editing in APL may be a snap.

  35. Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the United Federation of Planets will be running Windows 10 by the year 2300. Just wonder about which edition they will be on. Build number 666.666, star date 12345?

  36. no imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    another prequel. and not even canon.

  37. CBS committed a copyright violation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it is decompiled code for stuxnet, that means they published an excerpt without copyright licensing?

    Does this excerpt fall under fair use because of its length or is it in violation of it and thus possible for the originators of stuxnet to sue CBS/Paramount/Whoever over violating their copyright?

    Would be hilarious and a big FU to hollywood if true.

    That said, how come there isn't more critiquing of how bad Discovery is? It's like fucking 'Doom' set in the Trek universe. Or maybe a prequel to the JJA Star Trek, rather than the original trek universe?

    Interestingly someone mentioned Brannon Braga and some other old Trek guys are working on 'The Orville' now, so maybe ole Seth will pull it off instead. As much as others have bashed his acting skills, he's at least at the same caliber as Shatner, which makes him perfect for a half serious/half parody of Star Trek.

  38. Re:But the klingons by crankyspice · · Score: 1

    No Mudd? Not even just a little?

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    geek. lawyer.
  39. The Borg will only become a small part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...of what makes systemd.

    systemd: "We are systemd. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."
    The Borg: "That thing even incorporates its own DNS service?!? Damn, we are indeed doomed..."

  40. Well that explains it! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    Before I couldn't get over the fact that the consoles on the bridge would explode in their faces but now I realize this was just a metaphor for Windows exploding. ;)

    --
    Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    1. Re:Well that explains it! by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      The explosions came from lights on the consoles. In sci-fi anything which lights up is a stand-in for some fantastical technology which doesn't yet exist - most of which can explode because as a basic rule glowing things make brighter glowing things.

  41. Re:But the klingons by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    please, just one topic without this, please. can we just have some fun, please?

    The fun starts in the backlash of Nov 4th (Antifa are plotting to slaughter white people because racism and anti-Trump sentiment, which is sure to make commie-bashing fashionable again.)

  42. Windows for Spaceships by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Well, that would explain Starfleet losses at... basically every massed battle they've ever had.

    "Raise shields!"

    "Sir, all our screens are saying "Just a moment" with a little rotating circle!"

    "Oh crap, is it Tuesday?"

    Ship blows up, seen from space, accompanied by a "Boom!!!" for no reason whatsoever.

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  43. that explains it by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Maybe the Enterprise was successful when so many other ships were blown to hell because Scotty was an Ubuntu fan.

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    1. Re:that explains it by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      A non-systemd version, though.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:that explains it by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      This is the 23rd century. Everyone knows that systemd was replaced by superinit decades ago.

      --
      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    3. Re:that explains it by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I think you're right. Otherwise Scotty would never be able to do something in 37 seconds when it should take four days; he'd still be trying to debug some obscure race condition (the shields just willnae come up, cap'n!) and decipher some binary log as the nearby sun goes supernova.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  44. At least they moved on by tng by Richjesusstallman · · Score: 1

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... In the Star Trek fictional universe, LCARS (/ËÉlkÉ'Ërz/; an acronym for Library Computer Access/Retrieval System) is a computer operating system. Within Star Trek chronology, the term was first used in the Star Trek: The Next Generation series.

  45. Don't tempt the Beast (Microsoft). by taskforceken · · Score: 1

    Red Alert: Microsoft marketing opportunity, battle stations!
    Wouldn't be surprised at all, if close-ups of screens started showing a Win 10 look-alike.

    Microsoft becomes corporate sponsor, after CBS subscription revenue fails to meet expectations.

  46. Orville is getting this right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've got fraternizing in the ranks, and families onboard (like TNG+, but actually delving into the familial issues.)

    Additionally in regards to Discovery: Fucking replicators pre-TOS? And ACCURATE TRANSPORTER TECHNOLOGY? Neither of those things were supposed to exist until after TOS. The automat or whatever in TOS was supposed to just take real ingredients and process them to make food, with like officers getting real chef prepared food occasionally. The computers didn't talk/think for themselves until TNG era if I remember correctly, although Enterprise might have retconned that before Discovery did. The proto-section 31 blackops stuff could fit in with trek, and honestly the Discovery's captain (and that commander who isn't his first officer he is fraternizing with) are some good morally ambiguous characters. I am assuming as the story progresses they are going to turn into anti-hero or straight out villains as the slippery slope of best intentions without proper oversight lets them go out of control, training day style. However, following Burnham is turning out to have exactly all the negatives people were commenting about months ago. The dumb redhead with all her touchy feelings bullshit, that just makes her sound like a vapid bitch. Burnham's preachy behavior until she violates her own rules seemingly without realizing it herself (both the initial flyby, fight with the klingon if she could have escaped (who I will note was explicitly there to provoke a response, and given that he shattered her suit's faceplate and nearly killed her before she fought back, she was validated in fighting and killing him), and the two away team missions of just her and the captain, both the original on the desert planet and the second where the captain gets killed. This was really trek at its dumbest. If one looks at Kirk/Picard era, while they did often go on away teams together, they normally DID NOT go into hostile away team missions on their own. The missions where they went without a couple redshirts, or lower ranking specialists was generally missions where it was expected to be a peaceful interaction or exploration or was politically sensitive enough that only the most experienced/accomplished officers were involved in order to help minimize a political conflict. Additionally someone would almost always speak up about the risk of having a major portion of the chain of command risking itself on such an away mission, sometimes kirk or picard would brush it aside, other times they would agree and delegate it to the second in command, or someone lower ranking (it seems like worf or data or laforge lead more than a few away team missions because there was concern over Picard and/or Riker going down instead.) Point being the Shenzen seemed horribly unprofessional, and Burnham's 7 years as a first officer makes one wonder just how incompetent the Starfleet depicted in this series is, especially given how many ships they lost in that standoff with the klingons leading to war.

  47. Back in the 90s.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was an email story that got passed around about uploading the first copy of windows to the borg, who would begin adapting to it, as they successively uploaded later versions of it, before finally microsoft's fleet of lawyers came and destroyed them under copyright infringement paperwork for all the unauthorized copies of windows the borg has duplicated in the course of adapting to each new version of windows integrated into their collective.

    Hopefully someone else can find it and provide a citation and/or quotation of it.

  48. Warp Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the Warp Drive is a Siemens centrifuge running an old SCADA that can easily be Studnex-ed into the Blue Screen of Containment, as long as the .nyet libraries are up to date.
    "Full ahead impulse."
    "Aye, sir. Oh no, wait, UPDATES... We're going nowhere,sir!"
    Windows is Warped - at "10" they've gone to plaid!

  49. Re: But the klingons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ferrengis don't fit either - they make profit - not bankruptcy.

  50. Re: Very clever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer is this your long lost brother. Instead of spamming affiliate links he takes it one step further and spams landing pages. Nice.

  51. Fanfic has been better since either... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Animated Series came out, TNG came out, DS9 came out (B5 ripoff!), Voyager came out, etc etc.

    Similiar thing with Star Wars, although in that case, extended universe between the 70s and late 90s trumped the post ROTJ 'LucasFilm' material, although much of the LucasArts (IE videogames and EU licensed works) and much of the fanfiction was of a similiarly good of quality if it kept to storylines 'smaller' than the theatrical themes (IE no world destroyers, super-super star destroyers, new death stars, etc.) In a number of cases authors coming from either the fanfiction or 'contract pick an extended universe' pool for other major RPG/media franchises (Stackpole for instance with Wasteland the videogame, then Battletech for a number of years before graduating to Star Wars, if I remember correctly. Also a much better story developer than Lucas with lots of funny characters and cameos without making it turn into a parody of itself like Lucas did with the prequels and then Disney did with the new sequels.)

    Sadly as longer copyrights have proven, whether you were a Tolkien fan, a Trek fan, or a Wars fan, the time to fork your favored work and expand it with people who still believe in it in its original creative context, rather than the 30 year later corporate whored version run by people, even sometimes original people, whose views have changed enough to change or retcon the original work, need to lay their passion for it to rest and instead collectively work together on a new creative work following in the spirit they felt the original served, and find a way to help it remain in community hands, uncoopted by people with no passion, context, or respect for the original works and continuing the universe created in them and follow on works that the fans felt passionate about, even if they were considered canon by the licensing authority (see Trek and Wars fiction, much of which fleshed out facets of the universe the original works ignored or only made vague references to. Or hell, languages like Klingon or Drow (From what I understand the Tolkien copyrights have interfered with that for people wanting to expand Sildaren or whatever it is called, as they also have to a lesser degree with Drow and Klingon, both of which have either gotten official expansion through written works or tacit approval for non-commercial expansion of the languages for creative fan works.)

    Regardless now is the time for the creative revolution. Throw aside these old universes and pool together the same passion and work towards a similiar but legally independent creative universe, creative commons licensed, so that the community can build it through multimedia ventures into something approaching the breadth of star trek, star wars, babylon 5, battle star galactica, middle-earth, or whatever your favorite fictional and still in copyright universe is. Now is the time to do so, so your children can be brought up or introduced to it in place of disney, or tolkien, or universal, or mgm, or whoever else's creative universes which they rule with an iron fist. Get your kids creating new stories they can share with others. Licensed properly you can both offer the opportunity to commercialize their own works in the universe, while still leaving open the door for others to reference their works, or take small excerpts for continuity, weaving together a tapestry of creative works that could last generations.

    I'm sadly not creative enough to found this world myself, but the potential is there for an FOSS movement for media and media franchises that could help eventually cripple and render impotent the sickness that is Hollywood and the *AA enforcement agencies lobbying/strongarming for them.

    If you can't beat them with laws, or lobbying, beat them with innovation :)

  52. No Proof of Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We examined Stuxnet code using Linux. Then we ran it in a VM using Windows.

    Just because the code is Stuxnet does not mean the the OS was Windows.

  53. Credit where it is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the sake of accuracy, Stuxnet was a joint project between the US and Israel.

    I am curious whether the US and Israel received royalties for the use of their copyrighted material. The decompiling of it seems like it might be a bit in the legally grey area too.

  54. BSOD = Warp Core Breach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

  55. All Lines Are Commented Out by bchat · · Score: 1

    Did anyone notice that all the lines are commented out? Every line is preceded with "//", as in the highlighted line: // HANDLE __stdcall GetCurrentProcess();

  56. Janeway by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    This was basically the criticism about Janeway. Not so much that she was a women, but rather that they overcompensated a great deal. She was Captain and expert in everything... Not sure why they even bothered with the rest of the crew other than to have people for her to talk with as she seemingly just did everything by her self. All other Star Trek crews had clear delineation of expertise and they would work as a team to solve whatever solution was needed... Heck in STTNG they even split off Kirk's 3 primary skills, 1) Command, Picard obviously, 2) Gorn destroying double axe handle fighting technique, Worf, and 3) The ability to slut around with alien lifeforms, Riker. This seems more of the same as Janeway the one woman wreaking machine other than she was *supposed* to be a Captain, but due to her trying to save everyone by herself (sound familiar), now has no rank.

    Also I'll raise a Vulcan eyebrow at the addition of interstellar telepathy to the repertoire of her apparent skills... Though her neck pinch skills must suck if her former Captain simply woke up after a couple minutes.