Since he (self-admittedly) can't even install Linux without extensive help, why does he hold himself up as being some kind of a geek spokesman? Just being a whiny 12 year old with a long litany about how downtrodden you are does not make you a geek. Go home and take your angst with you.
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Check out CNN's front page, in the World News section, third story down.... "Quake in Java Kills At Least Four" =)
If he dies gruesomely (killed with a fingernail clipper over the course of several days, for example), then makes a suprise re-appearance at the end (a genetic clone made from the clippings, presumably), in the middle of the climactic fight between good and evil, and both sides stop fighting to beat him to death with their bare hands, then I would pay $99.95 plus s&h.
I paid $140 for 128 megs of ECC when I got my BP6 a couple months ago. The same vendor who sold me that memory wants $285 for it today. The price has more than doubled in around 60 days. $%*(@#&%*. --Sync
Expect is a TCL extension (TCL is a goofy little embeddable language with only one datatype- string. Fortunately it's not limited to scalar strings, though; it has arrays and lists (but not hashes).
Expect just plain and simple rocks for automating anything. TCL is a snap to learn, and Expect doesn't add too many new commands. There IS a down side, though.
The authors of the program turn a buck via having woefully inadequate documentation with Expect, and telling you to buy the O'Reilley book if you ever hope to make good use of Expect. Well, that might seem like strong-arm tactics, but let me tell you, that $25 O'Reilley book has saved me probably years off of my life:)
To sum, you're looking for Expect. It's not really free, but it IS worth it. --Sync
It's just some tasteless person taking out a patent. Consider... how many people would allow such a thing to be done to them, even (Gods forbid) if there were a law requiring it? Nobody! So this is just like patenting the use of the corkscrew to inflict pain and suffering on yourself. Sure, it's possible. But is anyone asking you to do it? Would you do it even if they asked you to? So chill:) --Sync
...but even though I have that stupid Katz person excluded from the articles that I view, I am *STILL* subjected to this idiot's opinion on everything under the sun, because every time he writes his happy little clueless bullshit, people (get this!) LINK to it under their names, thus nullifying my KatzFilter. I protest! PLEASE let me have my KatzFilter! It's all that enables me to enjoy/. on a regular basis. Is there any way I can enjoy this site without being subjected to this moron?????
Mailissa IS stupid. It's a non-virus that (at worst) can cause a DOS against inadequate hardware running an inadequate OS running an inadequate mailserver program. For this to work, you must also have many clients running M$ Office.
In short... who cares!!! Is it the "Virus That Ate MCI" or the new ADM worm for Linux? No, it's a stupid Visual Basic macro that's the latest in a series of thousands.
Is Rob a nasty hideous censor for calling it stupid? Duh! If you run M$ exchange with M$ office clients, you are subject to macro "viruses". This is extremely old news. Sign me up for a double-yawn!
Like this is the first DOS against Exchange, or the first annoying macro "virus" (Faithful Bugtraq readers may officially chortle here). Get a life! The only reason that this macro is being talked about is that some loser at CNN picked it as a career move.
Plan9 is not even being developed by Bell any more. The most recent FAQ is over a year old, and as for Brazil, the next release of Plan9, they say: "Work on Brazil has been stalled, as the developers have been pulled off the Brazil project to work on Inferno. The system is not in a state that is releasable, so there probably won't be a Brazil release in the foreseeable future." This is the OS of choice for grandaddy uber-geeks?:/
Solaris has journaled file system and logical volume manager (Veritas), and it will suport raw logical volumes for datafiles. I don't know what Veritas is
(Imagine that your system dies hard and you have to fsck 100 filesystems. Imagine that it takes less than a minute thanks to intent logging. Imagine vxfs >:)
(Imagine that you could create a frozen-in-time snapshot image of your filesystem for backup. Imagine you could do ONLINE defrag, resize and diagnostics. Again, imagine vxfs. This is not future tech- it's been around for years, and it's been fully implemented in more than one OS for at least a year or so.)
but Oracle on Linux supports Raw partitions. Keep in mind that IBM is porting Linux to the RS6000, and HP to the PA-Risc. There has been a stable Alpha port for over a year. The Intel bottleneck is about to become a non-factor.
(That's a little optimistic for me. You imply that Alpha Linux is just as advanced as i386 linux, and that the same will apply for PA-RISC come Merced time. BZZT.)
Right now we run Oracle Linux on an HP Netserver with 4 Pentium Pro processors and 1 Gig RAM. It's a fast little guy, and rock solid. I say 'Go for it'.
(People will. I won't until it ages a year or so more, but it is an extremely viable future platform. Hell, it's an extremely viable current platform if you don't need to go high-end, and it's AMAZING for low-end hardware configurations.)
(And now cheers to all. I go back to my excessive drinking:)
When I said RAID, I was referring to the md suite, which is not what a production box would use anyway (not that the multiple disks driver is not looking very good these days, kudos to M.I. and the rest of the team!). I recognize that software raid has been integrated even with the old 2.0.x kernels, but do read linux-RAID sometime... they're still working on it:)
Sorry to spread FUD there. I feel like that ZDnet moron who keeps writing articles about Linux not supporting SCSI or SMP:P
What a silly question!!!! If bc==4, you should avoid the divide-by-zero error by simply consuming an additional beer. Who taught you how to program, anyway??
I've never used Oracle on any platform but HP/UX, but let me inject a few general observations about Unixes and third party products in general:
Keep your critical systems away from anybody's first releases.
Keep your critical systems off of NT.
There are many fine *nixes out there, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Linux is a fine *nix, but it has too many under-informed zealots that will tell you it's always the OS for the job at hand. It's not always that OS. In sheer years, it is way too young to offer the kind of feature set a more mature *nix might offer (of course it's also too young to offer the entrenched corporate philosophies and 10 years of backwards bug compatibility found in a more mature *nix:)
In short, don't count Linux out, but don't automatically decide to use it because a bunch of Internet 12 year olds tell you it "rool3s". Linux does rule for the home PC, or for the ISP, but it's missing so many basic elements, like LVM, RAID, and a slew of things in the process and memory management department... all these things are in active development (yes, even LVM) but once again... do you want beta software a the box that makes your beeper go off if it goes down? Keep your eye on Oracle for Linux, though. It's a comer and I hope to be using it within a year:)
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Since he (self-admittedly) can't even install Linux without extensive help, why does he hold himself up as being some kind of a geek spokesman? Just being a whiny 12 year old with a long litany about how downtrodden you are does not make you a geek. Go home and take your angst with you.
Check out CNN's front page, in the World News section, third story down.... "Quake in Java Kills At Least Four" =)
If he dies gruesomely (killed with a fingernail clipper over the course of several days, for example), then makes a suprise re-appearance at the end (a genetic clone made from the clippings, presumably), in the middle of the climactic fight between good and evil, and both sides stop fighting to beat him to death with their bare hands, then I would pay $99.95 plus s&h.
I paid $140 for 128 megs of ECC when I got my BP6 a couple months ago. The same vendor who sold me that memory wants $285 for it today. The price has more than doubled in around 60 days.
$%*(@#&%*.
--Sync
You are definitely looking for Expect.
:)
Expect is a TCL extension (TCL is a goofy little embeddable language with only one datatype- string. Fortunately it's not limited to scalar strings, though; it has arrays and lists (but not hashes).
Expect just plain and simple rocks for automating anything. TCL is a snap to learn, and Expect doesn't add too many new commands. There IS a down side, though.
The authors of the program turn a buck via having woefully inadequate documentation with Expect, and telling you to buy the O'Reilley book if you ever hope to make good use of Expect. Well, that might seem like strong-arm tactics, but let me tell you, that $25 O'Reilley book has saved me probably years off of my life
To sum, you're looking for Expect. It's not really free, but it IS worth it.
--Sync
It's just some tasteless person taking out a patent. Consider... how many people would allow such a thing to be done to them, even (Gods forbid) if there were a law requiring it? Nobody! So this is just like patenting the use of the corkscrew to inflict pain and suffering on yourself. Sure, it's possible. But is anyone asking you to do it? Would you do it even if they asked you to? So chill :) --Sync
...but even though I have that stupid Katz person excluded from the articles that I view, I am *STILL* subjected to this idiot's opinion on everything under the sun, because every time he writes his happy little clueless bullshit, people (get this!) LINK to it under their names, thus nullifying my KatzFilter. I protest! PLEASE let me have my KatzFilter! It's all that enables me to enjoy /. on a regular basis. Is there any way I can enjoy this site without being subjected to this moron?????
Mailissa IS stupid. It's a non-virus that (at worst) can cause a DOS against inadequate hardware running an inadequate OS running an inadequate mailserver program. For this to work, you must also have many clients running M$ Office.
In short... who cares!!! Is it the "Virus That Ate MCI" or the new ADM worm for Linux? No, it's a stupid Visual Basic macro that's the latest in a series of thousands.
Is Rob a nasty hideous censor for calling it stupid? Duh! If you run M$ exchange with M$ office clients, you are subject to macro "viruses". This is extremely old news. Sign me up for a double-yawn!
Like this is the first DOS against Exchange, or the first annoying macro "virus" (Faithful Bugtraq readers may officially chortle here). Get a life! The only reason that this macro is being talked about is that some loser at CNN picked it as a career move.
Move on!
--Sync
Plan9 is not even being developed by Bell any more. The most recent FAQ is over a year old, and as for Brazil, the next release of Plan9, they say: "Work on Brazil has been stalled, as the developers have been pulled off the Brazil project to work on Inferno. The system is not in a state that is releasable, so there probably won't be a Brazil release in the foreseeable future." This is the OS of choice for grandaddy uber-geeks? :/
I think Linux / Oracle are here to stay.
(Sure.... that's a no brainer :)
Solaris has journaled file system and logical volume manager (Veritas), and it will suport raw logical volumes for datafiles. I don't know what Veritas is
(Imagine that your system dies hard and you have to fsck 100 filesystems. Imagine that it takes less than a minute thanks to intent logging. Imagine vxfs >:)
(Imagine that you could create a frozen-in-time snapshot image of your filesystem for backup. Imagine you could do ONLINE defrag, resize and diagnostics. Again, imagine vxfs. This is not future tech- it's been around for years, and it's been fully implemented in more than one OS for at least a year or so.)
but Oracle on Linux supports Raw partitions. Keep in mind that IBM is porting Linux to the RS6000, and HP to the PA-Risc. There has been a stable Alpha port for over a year. The Intel bottleneck is about to become a non-factor.
(That's a little optimistic for me. You imply that Alpha Linux is just as advanced as i386 linux, and that the same will apply for PA-RISC come Merced time. BZZT.)
Right now we run Oracle Linux on an HP Netserver with 4 Pentium Pro processors and 1 Gig RAM. It's a fast little guy, and rock solid. I say 'Go for it'.
(People will. I won't until it ages a year or so more, but it is an extremely viable future platform. Hell, it's an extremely viable current platform if you don't need to go high-end, and it's AMAZING for low-end hardware configurations.)
(And now cheers to all. I go back to my excessive drinking :)
( --Sync)
Sorry to spread FUD there. I feel like that ZDnet moron who keeps writing articles about Linux not supporting SCSI or SMP :P
--Sync
--Sync
I've never used Oracle on any platform but HP/UX, but let me inject a few general observations about Unixes and third party products in general:
Keep your critical systems away from anybody's first releases.
Keep your critical systems off of NT.
There are many fine *nixes out there, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Linux is a fine *nix, but it has too many under-informed zealots that will tell you it's always the OS for the job at hand. It's not always that OS. In sheer years, it is way too young to offer the kind of feature set a more mature *nix might offer (of course it's also too young to offer the entrenched corporate philosophies and 10 years of backwards bug compatibility found in a more mature *nix :)
In short, don't count Linux out, but don't automatically decide to use it because a bunch of Internet 12 year olds tell you it "rool3s". Linux does rule for the home PC, or for the ISP, but it's missing so many basic elements, like LVM, RAID, and a slew of things in the process and memory management department... all these things are in active development (yes, even LVM) but once again... do you want beta software a the box that makes your beeper go off if it goes down? :)
Keep your eye on Oracle for Linux, though. It's a comer and I hope to be using it within a year
--Sync