1) Well, there are some attempts at binary compatability between various Unixes, and several of them can run Linux stuff, however you can't run a compiled x86 SCO program on Solaris, or vice versia. they use diffrent syscalls, binary formats, ect.
Uh, I would think that Mozilla would at least compile (if it runs corectly or not is a diffrent issue) I've use the mozila preview on my windows Box, and it ran OK.
XENIX was discontinued several years ago, its been obsolite for a long time. I don't know if Mozilla would compile or not, but I doubt it. I bet it wouldn't compile on Minix ether.
x86 binarys will run on the Alpha version of NT as well. I relize that Unix source is portable in general. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The guy wasn't talking about apps crasshing the system, but installers that wouldn't install beacuse the OS wasn't calling itself 'windows 95'. bad apps shouldn't crash the system, and on windows (NT *or* 9x) they usualy don't. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I just wanted to point out that windows didn't suck for that particular reason (large number of service packs) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, I use both IE 4 and netscape, although I just upgraded to IE5. The questionmarks don't show up in IE or Netscape here. Actualy, IE handles slashdot posts *a lot* better then netscape, ironicly. (I like to view them in nested mode, so I don't have to keep clicking for subcomments) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Linux does work on the chip to, but you should be able to get 98 to work well, if you get really nice hardware. in theory... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
if you had the august 25 1995 version of 95, that isn't strange. it was a real peice of shit. 98 is much better IMHO "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
it is posible to use realmode drivers for thigns under windows 9x however. a frend of mine *could not* get his CD-ROM to work. I 'un rem'd it from the autoexec.bat file, and it worked perfictly.
also, I think that if you have a DOS driver up before windows boots, it uses that (in some cases) usualy CD-ROM, sound ect drivers are loaded in the dosstart.bat file, and run when you 'exit to dos' I'm not real sure though, but I know windows can use realmode CD-ROM drivers "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
for minoritys. They see white on the TV all the time, white white white. I bet there used to it now:)
anyway, I know *I'm* not "turned off" by the strip, and I'm not white. there are only a few people who get upset about things like this, and we don't really need to worry about them.
to whites, black US culture can seem strange, but white culture is not at all strange to blacks. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I tried to sign up. no "hotmail" how lame, some people use that as there regular email. I'm sure you want to be able to spam people where they live though "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
it was writen by the same people, and uses some of the same ideas, but it is a completly new OS "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Don't forget They still have bans on 'hatefull' political speach. With harsher punishments for using computers. I personaly find this deplorable,
there taxes are still high, people talk funny, and it's cold. America may suck in many respects, but it's still better then canada.
Don't forget here, also all there doing is "recomending" that there citizens use it. Encryption in the US is still legal, its just being held up as a comercial industry by exsport restrictions (that prevent software from being put up for download, among other things) Allthough I'm sure Janet Reno would love to not alow us our encryption, there not really doing anything to take it away. (nor can they, I belive) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I don't really use NT much (actualy, I try to avoid it), do they work an Administrator mode, or whatever?
anyway the main point was just that windows is not "fragmented" and certanly not in the sense that UNIX was. Also that we should be carfull, spew FUD about windows. We don't want windows users to hate us:) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
It may have somthing to do with that databases need to remain "consistant" such that only one operation is performed on a record at once. The problem might be in making sure that only one box "owns" a record at once. You would need to make that record unavailable to all the other nodes, or let them no not to use it. If the network is high latency, it could be a problem.
of course, with gigabit ethernet...:) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I hate to inform you of this, but most hardware is made following these wonderful little things called "standards"
In some cases that's true, keyboards, floppy drives, hard drives, CD-ROM's. In other cases you may need other drivers if you want to use all the features. such as video cards(pure VGA only), mice, modems.
And then there is hardware that while it conforms to an "outside" standards like the phone system, the way it communicates with the computer is different for all devices, such as winmodems, 3d accelerators, Ethernet cards, sound cards video capture cards. Basically, anything "cool" (except for winmodems, witch are a cheap hack and suck).
while, MS doesn't write drivers for these, the companies do. Some are starting to write drivers for Linux, witch is a Good Thing (nVidia comes to mind). The problem is, however that the drivers are not always that good, and can cause system crashes. Its possible that Linux users with cheap hardware might find themselves in the same situation as windows users. Hopefully H/W designers will Open Source there drivers, and we can all fix bugs together : ) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I wouldn't be surprised if the API's do exist to remotely administer NT, but they don't seem to be readily documented.
Back Orifice 2000! And it's Open Source(tm)!!:)
sorry I couldn't resist, and "Open Source" isn't really a trademark. I always thought trade marking the term Open Source was kind of weird anyway... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
He, might actualy be a windows user, just incredibly stupid himself, but it just seemed to me to be a "sarcastic take" on windows users, a la Gerold Holms.
so anyway, sorry:( "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the hardware looks good, it may be the Chip though. Cyrix's are generally pretty crapy, and not always supported well (so more bugs may show up). You might consider getting a K6-2 for when you upgrade instead. There pretty cheap now, for the sub-300mhz range. pricewatch.com lists a k6-2 300 at just $30.
I don't know why 98 would be crashing so much, with that setup. I don't know for sure, but my guess would be the CPU or the mother board. Check amptrons site for BIOS upgrades (I have an amptron myself and it works pretty well).
It's not the quality of the hardware itself, it's the quality of the drivers (except in the case of CPUs and MoBos, witch don't need drivers). If you ever get a new motherboard, look into Soyo, Abit, or Aopen, and read reviews online. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
actualy, I'd bet linux is more stable *beacuse* it supports less hardware, if we had every shitty hardware company come out with kernel level drivers for linux, it would be unstable to (when using that hardware)
Microsoft dosn't write the drivers themselfs "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
there the exact same thing, the even follow the same build numbers 950, 1111, 1212, 1998. each one is a little more stable. and 98 is *much* more stable then build 950.. (the august 25 1995 version). 98 also has IE4 "built in"... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
What point? that code writen in 1999 won't work on an OS that came out in 1993?
That's not really a point that needs to be made, it has no relevance to to the 'fragmentation' of windows. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Ahh, that brings back memories. the original august 25 1995 version... Buggy OpenGL. Lethargic boots. daily crashes, What a piece of shit "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
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Well, there are some attempts at binary compatability between various Unixes, and several of them can run Linux stuff, however you can't run a compiled x86 SCO program on Solaris, or vice versia. they use diffrent syscalls, binary formats, ect.
Uh, I would think that Mozilla would at least compile (if it runs corectly or not is a diffrent issue) I've use the mozila preview on my windows Box, and it ran OK.
XENIX was discontinued several years ago, its been obsolite for a long time. I don't know if Mozilla would compile or not, but I doubt it. I bet it wouldn't compile on Minix ether.
x86 binarys will run on the Alpha version of NT as well. I relize that Unix source is portable in general.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
use the ampersand (shift+5) followed by an ell (L), a tee (T) and a simicolon (;)
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The guy wasn't talking about apps crasshing the system, but installers that wouldn't install beacuse the OS wasn't calling itself 'windows 95'. bad apps shouldn't crash the system, and on windows (NT *or* 9x) they usualy don't.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
if that's not mission critical, I don't know what is.
maybe you can get by with winquake/quake2 however, but its still not the same
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I just wanted to point out that windows didn't suck for that particular reason (large number of service packs)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, I use both IE 4 and netscape, although I just upgraded to IE5. The questionmarks don't show up in IE or Netscape here. Actualy, IE handles slashdot posts *a lot* better then netscape, ironicly. (I like to view them in nested mode, so I don't have to keep clicking for subcomments)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Linux does work on the chip to, but you should be able to get 98 to work well, if you get really nice hardware. in theory...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
if you had the august 25 1995 version of 95, that isn't strange. it was a real peice of shit. 98 is much better IMHO
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
not 9x. sorry
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
it is posible to use realmode drivers for thigns under windows 9x however. a frend of mine *could not* get his CD-ROM to work. I 'un rem'd it from the autoexec.bat file, and it worked perfictly.
also, I think that if you have a DOS driver up before windows boots, it uses that (in some cases) usualy CD-ROM, sound ect drivers are loaded in the dosstart.bat file, and run when you 'exit to dos' I'm not real sure though, but I know windows can use realmode CD-ROM drivers
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
for minoritys. They see white on the TV all the time, white white white. I bet there used to it now :)
anyway, I know *I'm* not "turned off" by the strip, and I'm not white. there are only a few people who get upset about things like this, and we don't really need to worry about them.
to whites, black US culture can seem strange, but white culture is not at all strange to blacks.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I tried to sign up. no "hotmail" how lame, some people use that as there regular email. I'm sure you want to be able to spam people where they live though
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
it was writen by the same people, and uses some of the same ideas, but it is a completly new OS
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Don't forget They still have bans on 'hatefull' political speach. With harsher punishments for using computers. I personaly find this deplorable,
there taxes are still high, people talk funny, and it's cold. America may suck in many respects, but it's still better then canada.
Don't forget here, also all there doing is "recomending" that there citizens use it. Encryption in the US is still legal, its just being held up as a comercial industry by exsport restrictions (that prevent software from being put up for download, among other things) Allthough I'm sure Janet Reno would love to not alow us our encryption, there not really doing anything to take it away. (nor can they, I belive)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I don't really use NT much (actualy, I try to avoid it), do they work an Administrator mode, or whatever?
:)
anyway the main point was just that windows is not "fragmented" and certanly not in the sense that UNIX was. Also that we should be carfull, spew FUD about windows. We don't want windows users to hate us
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
It may have somthing to do with that databases need to remain "consistant" such that only one operation is performed on a record at once. The problem might be in making sure that only one box "owns" a record at once. You would need to make that record unavailable to all the other nodes, or let them no not to use it. If the network is high latency, it could be a problem.
:)
of course, with gigabit ethernet...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I hate to inform you of this, but most hardware is made following these wonderful little things called "standards"
In some cases that's true, keyboards, floppy drives, hard drives, CD-ROM's. In other cases you may need other drivers if you want to use all the features. such as video cards(pure VGA only), mice, modems.
And then there is hardware that while it conforms to an "outside" standards like the phone system, the way it communicates with the computer is different for all devices, such as winmodems, 3d accelerators, Ethernet cards, sound cards video capture cards. Basically, anything "cool" (except for winmodems, witch are a cheap hack and suck).
while, MS doesn't write drivers for these, the companies do. Some are starting to write drivers for Linux, witch is a Good Thing (nVidia comes to mind). The problem is, however that the drivers are not always that good, and can cause system crashes. Its possible that Linux users with cheap hardware might find themselves in the same situation as windows users. Hopefully H/W designers will Open Source there drivers, and we can all fix bugs together : )
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I wouldn't be surprised if the API's do exist to remotely administer NT, but they don't seem to be readily documented.
:)
Back Orifice 2000! And it's Open Source(tm)!!
sorry I couldn't resist, and "Open Source" isn't really a trademark. I always thought trade marking the term Open Source was kind of weird anyway...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I'm tired and its fun to flame :)
:(
He, might actualy be a windows user, just incredibly stupid himself, but it just seemed to me to be a "sarcastic take" on windows users, a la Gerold Holms.
so anyway, sorry
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the hardware looks good, it may be the Chip though. Cyrix's are generally pretty crapy, and not always supported well (so more bugs may show up). You might consider getting a K6-2 for when you upgrade instead. There pretty cheap now, for the sub-300mhz range. pricewatch.com lists a k6-2 300 at just $30.
I don't know why 98 would be crashing so much, with that setup. I don't know for sure, but my guess would be the CPU or the mother board. Check amptrons site for BIOS upgrades (I have an amptron myself and it works pretty well).
It's not the quality of the hardware itself, it's the quality of the drivers (except in the case of CPUs and MoBos, witch don't need drivers). If you ever get a new motherboard, look into Soyo, Abit, or Aopen, and read reviews online.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
actualy, I'd bet linux is more stable *beacuse* it supports less hardware, if we had every shitty hardware company come out with kernel level drivers for linux, it would be unstable to (when using that hardware)
Microsoft dosn't write the drivers themselfs
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
there the exact same thing, the even follow the same build numbers 950, 1111, 1212, 1998. each one is a little more stable. and 98 is *much* more stable then build 950.. (the august 25 1995 version). 98 also has IE4 "built in"...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
What point? that code writen in 1999 won't work on an OS that came out in 1993?
That's not really a point that needs to be made, it has no relevance to to the 'fragmentation' of windows.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Ahh, that brings back memories. the original august 25 1995 version...
Buggy OpenGL. Lethargic boots. daily crashes,
What a piece of shit
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
well...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"