I hope your not to stupid to realize that wether or not you feel its arrogent or not has any relevance on wether its true or not. what matters are sciantific fact, not your armchar psychoanalisis of the people presenting them.
Your argument is like saying evolution didn't happen beacuse "animals are just soo diffrent, I can't see it happening"
I think it is supremely arrogant of mankind to believe that he can change what nature built in a billion years in just fifty.
We are a part of nature, and we certanly capable of changing things. It may seem arrogant to you, but that certanly isn't proof of anything whatsoever.
Pure fat is bad for you, it probably wouldnt' be a good idea to eat a kilogram of butter, but it wouldn't kill you.
Lest say we added 100 milligrams (the same scale your talking about) of nerve-toxin to that fat, and you ate it. Would you die? hell yeh! almost instantaniously, as soon as you touched the stuff.
In other words, there are other issued besides magnitude here. Just beacuse billions of tons of CO2 get pumped into the air each ear naturaly, dosn't mean you can dump 40 pounds of plutonium dust into the atmosphere.
4.1 Linux multitasks only as well as Windows or Mac
Microsoft and Apple would have you believe that their operating systems multitask (run more than one program at once). Using the term loosely, they do. Using the term strictly, they task-switch only. Although more than one program may be opened, you may notice that sometimes the system stops responding -- perhaps while mounting (detecting) a CD, or scanning a floppy drive.
Um, every windows since 3.1 has had premtive multitasking
(or was that 5L, as it said in the end of the artical)
So, is IBM going to go all out open-source? I doubt they could get such a deep integration with linux as their talking about without either rewriting it, or GPLing their software. The artical wasn't very clear on their plans.
Don't be such a wet blanket, all kinds of technology can be used to kill people, this is nothing new. Nothing anywhere as dangerous as atomic weapons
Unfortunately, the problem is that a human mind is a lot more secure than the lines of code powering these machines. It wouldn't be hard for some cracker to take out a robot guard, especially if the guards can be controlled over the Internet.
Yeh right, sourcecode can be made absolutely perfect. It's just that most programmers don't bother. Computer code can be mathematically proven, and proven code can be no more broken the laws of physics it relies on.
A human mind is not exactly 'secure' either, bribery? blackmail? Hello?
I think the 18 second figure is the time it takes to crack a player key and unencrypt the session key (an effective encryption level of 26bits). Not crack the session key itself (40bit). Brute forcing a 40bit key should take a few days, with a regular PC
DVD-ROM drive and say a rare, expensive, elusive DVD Writer, you could perform a bit by bit copy of the disc.
1) Normal DVD-ROM drives cannot read the key tracks in normal useage, they can only read the one key you ask for.
2) Blank DVD media have the keytrack space already burnt out. no data can ever by written there no matter how exspensive your writer is.
In other words, you need a DVD plant to pirate DVD movies. with DeCSS, all you need is a DVD ROM, a Divx encoder, and a CD-R. Without DeCSS only large-scale 'real' pirates can copy DVDs, with it, anyone can. And, thats assuming that there even is equipment out there that can read the whole keytracks as normal data, I'm not sure there even is...
Here is a better metaphore. I have a note writen in english, I use an enigma machine to encrypt it. I write the settings for the enigma machine in special inc that requires a chemical process and a special machine to read. Can I read the note? No. Would I need to be able to read it to make a photocopy? No. If I gave my photocopy to someone with ane enigma machine, would they be able to read it? No. The message can only be read if the origional paper, with the hidden key, is had.
Now, as we all know, enigma was broken, as was CSS. So if I had the origional paper (a legit DVD disk), and the chemical process, and another enigma machine, or a Bombe (legit CSS software, or DeCSS) then I could copy the unencrypted, but a copy of the encrypted data wouldn't do anyone any good. Infact, it would be inseparable from white noise.
Its like copying a book that has been encrypted. You can't go read it later, an no one else can ever read it either, not with out the key. and thats the whole fucking point.
If you copy the data without DeCSS you can't EVER play it back, not without brute force decrypting it (witch probably wouldn't take that long, given that its only 40bit encryption, probably a few days).
Let me explain how this works. One of the first tracks on a DVD disk contains several copies of the 'session key' the session key is whats used to decrypt the video. The session key is encrypted with 'player' keys, each player, software or hardware has a copy of one of the player keys. When you go to play the DVD it reads the spesific copy of the session key that its supposed to, decrypts it with its player key, and then uses the decrypted session key to decrypt the data.
When you make a bit for bit copy of the DVD with a normal DVD-ROM drive (and I've never seen nor heard of 'non-normal' drives) it does not copy the section with the session keys, just the encrypted data.
beachse there are no session keys for the player to decrypt at all, the licensed player has no capablity whatsoever to decrypt anything.
When you license CSS, you get an algorithem, not a key that unlocks every DVD in the world.
well, the DeCSS case was about people with regular equipment. People keep talking about stuff going on in the far east, but there is still no real evidence that the people over there are copying disks wholesale, as opposed to getting the unencrypted stream somehow (ether digitaly or analog...ly)
Well, in that case all your doing is using another program to do what DeCSS does, just that your using a legit CSS system to do it. That software would probably still be in violation of the DMCA, and might in fact be considered less legit then DeCSS... (I think)
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Global warming has nothing to do with the greenhouse effect, they are two seperate things, and cfcs are not even greenhouse gasses!
I hope your not to stupid to realize that wether or not you feel its arrogent or not has any relevance on wether its true or not. what matters are sciantific fact, not your armchar psychoanalisis of the people presenting them.
Your argument is like saying evolution didn't happen beacuse "animals are just soo diffrent, I can't see it happening"
I think it is supremely arrogant of mankind to believe that he can change what nature built in a billion years in just fifty.
We are a part of nature, and we certanly capable of changing things. It may seem arrogant to you, but that certanly isn't proof of anything whatsoever.
Yes, the earth wobbles on its axis. No, not by that much. And if it did, we'd be seeing the icecaps _move_ rather than shrink.
The earth is spinning, think about it
Pure fat is bad for you, it probably wouldnt' be a good idea to eat a kilogram of butter, but it wouldn't kill you.
Lest say we added 100 milligrams (the same scale your talking about) of nerve-toxin to that fat, and you ate it. Would you die? hell yeh! almost instantaniously, as soon as you touched the stuff.
In other words, there are other issued besides magnitude here. Just beacuse billions of tons of CO2 get pumped into the air each ear naturaly, dosn't mean you can dump 40 pounds of plutonium dust into the atmosphere.
(Entropy, anyone?)
Welp, I think we just proved that you are an idiot, thank you
(Hint, the earths surface is heated by the sun, not the core)
Why can't the environmentalists tell me what caused the ice ages?
Well, they told me what caused the ice ages in my elementary school astronomy class, irregularitys in the earths orbit. moron.
No one, ever, has said that global warming wont happen if we spew greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, except for Jerry Fallwell.
But then, I suppose if You don't belive in evolution, globabl warming isn't much troubble to disbelive
Logic != reality, if you only belived what logicaly probable, you wouldn't belive very much at all
Someone ought to take a class in sciance.
4.1 Linux multitasks only as well as Windows or Mac Microsoft and Apple would have you believe that their operating systems multitask (run more than one program at once). Using the term loosely, they do. Using the term strictly, they task-switch only. Although more than one program may be opened, you may notice that sometimes the system stops responding -- perhaps while mounting (detecting) a CD, or scanning a floppy drive.
Um, every windows since 3.1 has had premtive multitasking
Actualy, I'm for DeCSS... Its just that I can't stand people lying like that, or being uninformed.
Karma gets frozen when you have more then 50, you moron
(or was that 5L, as it said in the end of the artical)
So, is IBM going to go all out open-source? I doubt they could get such a deep integration with linux as their talking about without either rewriting it, or GPLing their software. The artical wasn't very clear on their plans.
Don't be such a wet blanket, all kinds of technology can be used to kill people, this is nothing new. Nothing anywhere as dangerous as atomic weapons
Unfortunately, the problem is that a human mind is a lot more secure than the lines of code powering these machines. It wouldn't be hard for some cracker to take out a robot guard, especially if the guards can be controlled over the Internet.
Yeh right, sourcecode can be made absolutely perfect. It's just that most programmers don't bother. Computer code can be mathematically proven, and proven code can be no more broken the laws of physics it relies on.
A human mind is not exactly 'secure' either, bribery? blackmail? Hello?
I think the 18 second figure is the time it takes to crack a player key and unencrypt the session key (an effective encryption level of 26bits). Not crack the session key itself (40bit). Brute forcing a 40bit key should take a few days, with a regular PC
DVD-ROM drive and say a rare, expensive, elusive DVD Writer, you could perform a bit by bit copy of the disc.
1) Normal DVD-ROM drives cannot read the key tracks in normal useage, they can only read the one key you ask for.
2) Blank DVD media have the keytrack space already burnt out. no data can ever by written there no matter how exspensive your writer is.
In other words, you need a DVD plant to pirate DVD movies. with DeCSS, all you need is a DVD ROM, a Divx encoder, and a CD-R. Without DeCSS only large-scale 'real' pirates can copy DVDs, with it, anyone can. And, thats assuming that there even is equipment out there that can read the whole keytracks as normal data, I'm not sure there even is...
Shame on you, you lied to you mother.
Here is a better metaphore. I have a note writen in english, I use an enigma machine to encrypt it. I write the settings for the enigma machine in special inc that requires a chemical process and a special machine to read. Can I read the note? No. Would I need to be able to read it to make a photocopy? No. If I gave my photocopy to someone with ane enigma machine, would they be able to read it? No. The message can only be read if the origional paper, with the hidden key, is had.
Now, as we all know, enigma was broken, as was CSS. So if I had the origional paper (a legit DVD disk), and the chemical process, and another enigma machine, or a Bombe (legit CSS software, or DeCSS) then I could copy the unencrypted, but a copy of the encrypted data wouldn't do anyone any good. Infact, it would be inseparable from white noise.
Its like copying a book that has been encrypted. You can't go read it later, an no one else can ever read it either, not with out the key. and thats the whole fucking point.
probably beacuse you can't make bit-for-bit copies of DVD movies. and anyone with a clue actualy knows this.
If you copy the data without DeCSS you can't EVER play it back, not without brute force decrypting it (witch probably wouldn't take that long, given that its only 40bit encryption, probably a few days).
Let me explain how this works. One of the first tracks on a DVD disk contains several copies of the 'session key' the session key is whats used to decrypt the video. The session key is encrypted with 'player' keys, each player, software or hardware has a copy of one of the player keys. When you go to play the DVD it reads the spesific copy of the session key that its supposed to, decrypts it with its player key, and then uses the decrypted session key to decrypt the data.
When you make a bit for bit copy of the DVD with a normal DVD-ROM drive (and I've never seen nor heard of 'non-normal' drives) it does not copy the section with the session keys, just the encrypted data.
beachse there are no session keys for the player to decrypt at all, the licensed player has no capablity whatsoever to decrypt anything.
When you license CSS, you get an algorithem, not a key that unlocks every DVD in the world.
well, the DeCSS case was about people with regular equipment. People keep talking about stuff going on in the far east, but there is still no real evidence that the people over there are copying disks wholesale, as opposed to getting the unencrypted stream somehow (ether digitaly or analog...ly)
There are spesific laws that ban the use of copyrights to keep and maintain monopolies.
You can copy an encypted DVD disc bit for bit, and play it back on a licensed player. In other words, you don't need DeCSS to pirate DVDs.
No, if the DVD is encrypted, you cannot do that. Thats the whole fucking point of CSS!
Well, in that case all your doing is using another program to do what DeCSS does, just that your using a legit CSS system to do it. That software would probably still be in violation of the DMCA, and might in fact be considered less legit then DeCSS... (I think)
Um, think about it... why would they program their DVD pressing plants with a DVD disk, infact, how could they?
.vob files of a hard drive or something.
My guess is that they can read