I'll bet a lot of Linux users out there couldn't name 6 commercial Unix flavors. The first processor to run Unix? Where the very name Unix comes from?
Hrm, Solaris, AIX, SCO, Tru64, Ultrix, Irix... Xenix(heh), Apple UNIX(heh)
It first ran on a pdp11, or somthing like that and was a play on the name MULTIX, witch was a multi user OS (Unix was intended to be a single user OS, at the time). made by... Ken Tompson?
With a networked scheme, the server would do all this for you.
Do what for you, and why can't your computer do it? I understand perfictly, if the boxes are all the same, and the CD's are all the same, what's the point of having a server help to install information of the CD onto the computer?
My friend Jon wrote a C program the other day that made a list of prime numbers. He's currently past 1,000,000. I'm sure that his program could be modified in some way as to test these numbers. However, I don't think he'd enjoy using his CPU for that.
Hah, your frend must be a pretty crappy programmer then, I've written a program that searches all the primes in prettymuch linear time, 10,000,000 takes about 3 or so seconds (on a p200, when I last ran it, btw)
So when you insert the CD, it reaches out and asks a central server. The central server's directions will be correct, because all these boxes are the same.
Uh, if all of the boxes are the same, then why not just put the instructinos on the cd? I mean what would be the point of having the info on the net if its all going to be the same?
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I should really read what I write more carefully :(
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Ether that, or highly stupid. I'm pretty sure it's a troll, and a good one at that:P
And as far as servents go, you can still have them now if you happen to have the same relitive wealth of an overloard, but the quality of life for those servents is much better...
Here in Metropolis by the Bay, one city had the brilliant idea of providing "public" bicycles.
Actualy, this system works perfictly in Prog (or Norway or some place like that). Diffrent systems work for diffrent sets of people... Nothing ever gets stolen in japan, but Corporate bribery and stuff runs rampent. Here, its the other way around (AFAIK). There isn't really that much you can do about it.
This is the reaction of somebody with serious emotional problems, as well as a total inability to imagine a society not populated entirely by like [people like this] sociopath.
Right, but regardless of your opinion of him, he's still THERE Isn't he? The problem with the idea of total cooperation is that some people won't cooperate, and then your fucked.
like, if your engineers are so damn great, why is the company going tits up?)
Bad management? From someone who doesn't think through all the problematic situations that might arise from ideas?
Meanwhile, your company, the Amalgamated Widget Co...dammit if 3M... didn't invent a groovy new widget..... so you download the plans from 3M's web site (on your FreeBSD box) and go into production.
Now, why would 3m even bother employing any engineering staff if anyone could just start copying their ideas? Why would they want to spend millions of dollars coming up with ideas that anyone could use when they could keep using the same ideas for free? There has to be some incentive for people to spend money developing ideas.
We've knocked our life expectancy down to 55 years by hammering ourselves with crap, and then dragged it back up to something reasonable by spending absurd sums on high-tech fixes.
WTF??
Human life expectancy has been increasing thought the industrial revolution, in the middle ages; you'd be lucky to live to 38. If you were not a member of the ruling elite you might get more, Sure, Michelangelo lived to be 80. I can guaranty his farm-tending serf compatriots did not, however. Don't you understand, by flooding the world with cheap crap, it means that everyone can afford itYou and I today, and almost everyone else in the US and other 'first-world' countries has a standard of living that even the richest overlords of pre-industrial era would kill for.
Did you know that there is not enough arable land on earth to feed the human population if we all used pre-industrial agriculture techniques (actually, there isn't even enough active farmland in America to feed it using 1970's tech).
There are a lot more people on this planet then there was in 500bc, exponentially more. We need this tech to survive. In order to go back to a pre-industrial lifestyle, we would need to kill billions of people, and subjugate millions more into abject poverty. To simply satisfy your athesthetic sense...
There is a pretty big difference between morality and atheistic.
By the same token as he says to look at Linux when 2.4 comes out, the same can be said for Windows (or any other OS). Wait until SP2/3 comes out and you'll see marked performance increases. Anyone who builds a sufficiently complex system knows that it takes a while to iron out the wrinkles.
There's a pretty big difference between SPs and kernel versions. 2.4 isn't a 'service pack' for Linux, it's a whole new version with all kinds of new stuff. It would be more like the difference between NT4 SPzero, and Win2k SPzero. Also, windows and windows service packs encompass a lot more then a kernel, you should compare it to something like red-hat or whatever. A 'service pack' would be like the difference between RedHat 6.1 and RedHat 6.0...
Also, the release kernels are usually almost bug free, unlike windows...
How long do you think it will be before we can all have properly operational players the read the whole disks like the unauthorized copiers
We are talking about the real world here, right now, right here in the US. A device like what you are describing would absolutely be illegal under the DMCA. Unlike DeCSS, it would have no purpose other then to copy copy-protected disks. The DMCA never said that the copy protection system had to work, all it asks is that it's there.
So, in answer to your question, probably never (can you think of a legitimate use of such a device other then for copying DVDs?)
What you have to keep in mind here is that there are two kinds of piracy here, big piracy shops in Asia, and kids trading.VOB files over IRC. The pirates in Asia a fixed thing, they only produce X amount of fakes. But the other kind is limitless, and, until DeCSS came out practically impossible (how many Skript Kiddiz do you know who own DVD pressing plants?). There was always methods to get the video, but until DeCSS they required huge amounts of hard drive space and moderately expensive equipment (mpeg encoder cards, etc).
Now, I'm not going to lie about this, I know that copying the analog signal off of a DVD player into a computer was certainly possible with 'pro-sumer' gear, but that would take a lot more time and effort then it would require. I agree that CSS is a terrible copy protection scheme but it would be much better if there were no DeCSS And, that is exactly what the MPAA is trying to do
Not to nitpick, but that should be GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: slashdot.org
(note the two newlines at the end of the request).. And that would be in a packet addressed to slashdot.org:80. but, if you don't put the Host: whatever header, http 1.1 implementations (at least apache) will give you an error message. I've spent most of this week coding an HTTP server in java so I'm still 'fresh':P
You don't have a "right" to view mp3s, especially ripped off mp3s.
That's right, when will people learn? You have no right to view mp3s!!!
Now, listening, on the other hand, we most certainly do, ether computerized versions of CD's we already own, or the music of people that is released in MP3 format.
) you comment on sound cards introducing too much noise into a system; score +1 for a Mac: built in 4 channel 44.1KHz/16 bit audio since the 68040 days. Nowadays, you can mix even more channels; it is only dependant on how much memory is free for the System.
Typical of a Mac user... Stupid. The guy was talking about the noise on the line, the number of mixing channels has nothing to do with the amount of line noise. At least my PC has a digital SP-DIFF output; can your Mac do that? BTW, with an SBLive I still get almost no analog interference that I can hear. The line noise actually goes DOWN When I turn on the computer. I don't know how the hell it works, but it does.
Oh, and it has 32 wave mixing channels, something like 500 midi ones, actual Hardware Midi inputs, SP-DIFF inputs, 4-speaker Dolby-digital output (and yes, I've got the hardware to play it, my amp is probably worth as much as my computer right now:P), and lots of other goodies.
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After all, arn't we just 'rulling some planet orbiting some star in some galaxy out there in the great big universe'?
What is the point of us doing it? why woudln't the machines do it for the same reason we do? who really even cares?
probably...
Look around you, do you really think the people you see could have built the great human socity?
I'll bet a lot of Linux users out there couldn't name 6 commercial Unix flavors. The first processor to run Unix? Where the very name Unix comes from?
Hrm, Solaris, AIX, SCO, Tru64, Ultrix, Irix... Xenix(heh), Apple UNIX(heh)
It first ran on a pdp11, or somthing like that and was a play on the name MULTIX, witch was a multi user OS (Unix was intended to be a single user OS, at the time). made by... Ken Tompson?
Actualy, I'm a windows98 user... heh...
Yeh, anyone who's written archaic computer tech like vi and Java must not know crap. I mean, who uses Java these days?
With a networked scheme, the server would do all this for you.
Do what for you, and why can't your computer do it? I understand perfictly, if the boxes are all the same, and the CD's are all the same, what's the point of having a server help to install information of the CD onto the computer?
Actualy, I belive that you only have to prove for n > 4...
My friend Jon wrote a C program the other day that made a list of prime numbers. He's currently past 1,000,000. I'm sure that his program could be modified in some way as to test these numbers. However, I don't think he'd enjoy using his CPU for that.
Hah, your frend must be a pretty crappy programmer then, I've written a program that searches all the primes in prettymuch linear time, 10,000,000 takes about 3 or so seconds (on a p200, when I last ran it, btw)
A veriant of that, an r4300, designed to be cheap ($35 in bulk when then n64 came out)
So when you insert the CD, it reaches out and asks a central server. The central server's directions will be correct, because all these boxes are the same.
Uh, if all of the boxes are the same, then why not just put the instructinos on the cd? I mean what would be the point of having the info on the net if its all going to be the same?
I should really read what I write more carefully
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Ether that, or highly stupid. I'm pretty sure it's a troll, and a good one at that :P
And as far as servents go, you can still have them now if you happen to have the same relitive wealth of an overloard, but the quality of life for those servents is much better...
Apache, and GCC are both pretty aberant when you compare them to the rest of the computer industry (esp hardware)
Also, nether really presents any new ideas...
Here in Metropolis by the Bay, one city had the brilliant idea of providing "public" bicycles.
Actualy, this system works perfictly in Prog (or Norway or some place like that). Diffrent systems work for diffrent sets of people... Nothing ever gets stolen in japan, but Corporate bribery and stuff runs rampent. Here, its the other way around (AFAIK). There isn't really that much you can do about it.
This is the reaction of somebody with serious emotional problems, as well as a total inability to imagine a society not populated entirely by like [people like this] sociopath.
Right, but regardless of your opinion of him, he's still THERE Isn't he? The problem with the idea of total cooperation is that some people won't cooperate, and then your fucked.
like, if your engineers are so damn great, why is the company going tits up?)
..... so you download the plans from 3M's web site (on your FreeBSD box) and go into production.
Bad management? From someone who doesn't think through all the problematic situations that might arise from ideas?
Meanwhile, your company, the Amalgamated Widget Co...dammit if 3M... didn't invent a groovy new widget
Now, why would 3m even bother employing any engineering staff if anyone could just start copying their ideas? Why would they want to spend millions of dollars coming up with ideas that anyone could use when they could keep using the same ideas for free? There has to be some incentive for people to spend money developing ideas.
We've knocked our life expectancy down to 55 years by hammering ourselves with crap, and then dragged it back up to something reasonable by spending absurd sums on high-tech fixes.
WTF??
Human life expectancy has been increasing thought the industrial revolution, in the middle ages; you'd be lucky to live to 38. If you were not a member of the ruling elite you might get more, Sure, Michelangelo lived to be 80. I can guaranty his farm-tending serf compatriots did not, however. Don't you understand, by flooding the world with cheap crap, it means that everyone can afford itYou and I today, and almost everyone else in the US and other 'first-world' countries has a standard of living that even the richest overlords of pre-industrial era would kill for.
Did you know that there is not enough arable land on earth to feed the human population if we all used pre-industrial agriculture techniques (actually, there isn't even enough active farmland in America to feed it using 1970's tech).
There are a lot more people on this planet then there was in 500bc, exponentially more. We need this tech to survive. In order to go back to a pre-industrial lifestyle, we would need to kill billions of people, and subjugate millions more into abject poverty. To simply satisfy your athesthetic sense...
There is a pretty big difference between morality and atheistic.
By the same token as he says to look at Linux when 2.4 comes out, the same can be said for Windows (or any other OS). Wait until SP2/3 comes out and you'll see marked performance increases. Anyone who builds a sufficiently complex system knows that it takes a while to iron out the wrinkles.
There's a pretty big difference between SPs and kernel versions. 2.4 isn't a 'service pack' for Linux, it's a whole new version with all kinds of new stuff. It would be more like the difference between NT4 SPzero, and Win2k SPzero. Also, windows and windows service packs encompass a lot more then a kernel, you should compare it to something like red-hat or whatever. A 'service pack' would be like the difference between RedHat 6.1 and RedHat 6.0...
Also, the release kernels are usually almost bug free, unlike windows...
How long do you think it will be before we can all have properly operational players the read the whole disks like the unauthorized copiers
.VOB files over IRC. The pirates in Asia a fixed thing, they only produce X amount of fakes. But the other kind is limitless, and, until DeCSS came out practically impossible (how many Skript Kiddiz do you know who own DVD pressing plants?). There was always methods to get the video, but until DeCSS they required huge amounts of hard drive space and moderately expensive equipment (mpeg encoder cards, etc).
We are talking about the real world here, right now, right here in the US. A device like what you are describing would absolutely be illegal under the DMCA. Unlike DeCSS, it would have no purpose other then to copy copy-protected disks. The DMCA never said that the copy protection system had to work, all it asks is that it's there.
So, in answer to your question, probably never (can you think of a legitimate use of such a device other then for copying DVDs?)
What you have to keep in mind here is that there are two kinds of piracy here, big piracy shops in Asia, and kids trading
Now, I'm not going to lie about this, I know that copying the analog signal off of a DVD player into a computer was certainly possible with 'pro-sumer' gear, but that would take a lot more time and effort then it would require. I agree that CSS is a terrible copy protection scheme but it would be much better if there were no DeCSS And, that is exactly what the MPAA is trying to do
HTTP/1.1 GET http://slashdot.org/
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Not to nitpick, but that should be
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: slashdot.org
(note the two newlines at the end of the request).. And that would be in a packet addressed to slashdot.org:80. but, if you don't put the Host: whatever header, http 1.1 implementations (at least apache) will give you an error message. I've spent most of this week coding an HTTP server in java so I'm still 'fresh'
heh... couldn't think of any better reference, but that doesn't mean i should be moderated down.
No, you should get modded down for posting twice
You don't have a "right" to view mp3s, especially ripped off mp3s.
That's right, when will people learn? You have no right to view mp3s!!!
Now, listening, on the other hand, we most certainly do, ether computerized versions of CD's we already own, or the music of people that is released in MP3 format.
75,000MB / 5MB is about 150,000 hours of music.
If that were true, you would have 2 hours of music per meagabyte. Maybe midi music, but not much else...
) you comment on sound cards introducing too much noise into a system; score +1 for a Mac: built in 4 channel 44.1KHz/16 bit audio since the 68040 days. Nowadays, you can mix even more channels; it is only dependant on how much memory is free for the System.
:P), and lots of other goodies.
Typical of a Mac user... Stupid. The guy was talking about the noise on the line, the number of mixing channels has nothing to do with the amount of line noise. At least my PC has a digital SP-DIFF output; can your Mac do that? BTW, with an SBLive I still get almost no analog interference that I can hear. The line noise actually goes DOWN When I turn on the computer. I don't know how the hell it works, but it does.
Oh, and it has 32 wave mixing channels, something like 500 midi ones, actual Hardware Midi inputs, SP-DIFF inputs, 4-speaker Dolby-digital output (and yes, I've got the hardware to play it, my amp is probably worth as much as my computer right now
I wish Linux had good DV + firewire support :(
Um, linux has a 2gb filesize limit on 32bit hardware (such as intel, ppc). you'd need to use Alpha linux if you wanted bigger files.