The GPL spesificaly dissalows 'spesific' restrictions on software. It's ether free, or it's not. So you're software couldn't be distributed with debian, for example -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Dude, if there not in america, they can't be whatever-americans, I mean really. Besides 'sino' is rarely used, most people are ether Asian-american, or straight Asian (There's really of a preponderance of foren born Asians in Ames, Iowa) -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
It wasn't a joke, it was real (though spelled incorectly via Pin Yin) Woh = Wo~ = "Me" or "I"
Woh Duh = Wo~.de = "mine"
Monitor = "Monitor"
Way = Wai~ = "what"
Sa Ma = sem/.me = "reason"
Lan Sha = Lan~si\ = "Blue"
Literaly "My monitor, for what reason blue?"
I'm not exactly sure about the spelling of Lan~si\, also I've marked the four tones with ascii characters. rising is "/" as in "guo/", "contry". Falling is "\" as in "shi\", "is". The 3rd tone, the 'up-down' one is marked with the tildie "~", as in Mai~, "beautifull, sexy". And the 4th tone is a hyphen '-' as in "fei-", fly.
"Wo~ shi\ mei~guo/ ren/" = "I'm an american" -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Shouldn't you have learned not to trust ZDnet? They tried NT, and they crashed and burned.... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Hrm, I can't get this thing to run under windows, and I don't think iv'e got GL setup correctly under Linux, It page faults imediatly, is anyone else having this problem? -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Keen was made by John Carmack and the other people who founded Id software. I don't know if the source was ever relised, though -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, though I could be wrong, I think this law as inacted after the whole IBM thing in the 80's -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The judge said spesificaly that even Mac-OS was considered, he still would have reached the same conclusions -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
You never stated that you 'thought that' so I'll do it for you: "You think" that the DOJ is in the wrong. That's you're oppinion, and an opinion not shared by Judge Jackson. He presided over the case, not you.
Dispite what you think about microsoft, they are a monopoly, defined by the Judge, and that is crime. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, first of all, the judge spesificaly said that even *if* apple's were considered, his findings of fact would be the same.
If by "monopoly" you mean "large market share on intel computers," then I will agree they have a monopoly. But so what? They gained that "monopoly" fair and square, and I as far as I can see they have committed no crimes in defending that monopoly. You could argue that they have violated antitrust law, but it is so vague that practically every successful company has done this.
A monopoly in and of itself is illigal, they may not be laws that you like, but those are the laws that have been implemented by our system of government. Just beacuse you feel a certan way, dosn't mean that you're correct. If you don't like the laws, vote people who will remove them. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I think that Microsoft would be interested in dragging out the case as long as possible. Why? The longer a case drags out, the more money it costs. If a case is drug out long enough, someone is going to run out of money and will be forced to drop the case. And Microsoft certainly isn't going to run out of money first.
Remember, the organization figting microsoft here is the Department of Justice, not some other bankrupt company. The US government rakes in 3 times microsofts entire market cap each year, and if they really need to, they could just rase taxes. I don't think it's costing them that much money though... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Andover.net has no creative control of the site. Crative control was maintaned by Rob "CmndrTaco" Malda, and the other posters (Hemos, Katz, roblimbo, etc).
This was exsplicitly stated in there contract. Also, Rob (and Maybe hemos) sit on andover's board... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, the origional hack LinuxPPC chalage did the same thing. It didn't seem 'wrong' in anyway, basicaly like keeping score in a game. The 'intruders' had nothing to hide.... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I don't really know how you could compare the two, Jessie Ventura's just a guy who got elected to Govenor. He's a little 'diffrent' then most polititions, but really that's for the better.
JP, on the other hand is aberant not only to the 'hacker community' but to humanity in general. Nothing else needs to be said about him, although I am intrested in reading this interview... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Unfortunately (your post not withstanding), the level of intelligent discussion seems to have been dropping steadily in the last six months, maybe even as far back as a year ago. Popularity among the flame-fest loving crowd seems to have driven down the average intelligence level. -A disgusted oldtimer who no longer logs in.
The fact is,/.'s intelligence level will go down, as with anything as the number of people using goes up. Just look at what happend to usenet. (Systems with stupid users won't atract anyone) I'm sorry, just set your threshold high and be happy. *obviously* Rob, Hemos, and Kats want more readers, not less, since the majority of there site content comes from us. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I don't know if this has changend, but for quite a while IE was the only browser with java 1.1 support, Netscape still only used 1.0. In order to even view some of the java on Sun's site, I needed to use IE.
I downloaded m10 tonight, and played with it a little. Pretty crazy stuff. I'll go back to netscape right away, once they reach beta, or somthing. I can't wait.
IE5 is called IEXPLORE.EXE, and explorer.exe is called, well EXPLORER.EXE, They exsist in seperate memory spaces. They are seperate processes. Not linked.
However, Explorer is pretty unstable by itself (much more so then ie5 on my box, actualy). and any stray app can bring it down. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
IE supports Standard Java far better then Netscape. I couldn't even view some of the samples on Java.sun.com in Netscape, worked fine in IE though. I'm still using NS4.05 or somthing along with IE, beacuse I hear the newer versions are even worse.
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Just because Microsoft feels they can release an unstable crappy browser doesn't mean we should loose hope.
IE is not crappy, or unstable. Netscape Is the company that does that, remember? Have you used IE5? it's crashed on me Twice since september. I just downloaded m10 of mozilla, and it looks nice. I'd hardly say it's a month away from reliase though, unless it's going to follow the tradition of all netscape software, buggy as hell -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Many people don't relize this, but I saw someone using AOL once.
they don't use a 'browser' it's all intigrated into AOL software. If aol were to switch to Mozilla, there customers wouldn't even know... -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
IE5 shouldn't bring down the shell, infact IE5 is *much* more stable then IE4 was (and exsplorer, in general to) -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The GPL spesificaly dissalows 'spesific' restrictions on software. It's ether free, or it's not. So you're software couldn't be distributed with debian, for example
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Dude, if there not in america, they can't be whatever-americans , I mean really. Besides 'sino' is rarely used, most people are ether Asian-american, or straight Asian (There's really of a preponderance of foren born Asians in Ames, Iowa)
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It wasn't a joke, it was real (though spelled incorectly via Pin Yin)
Woh = Wo~ = "Me" or "I"
Woh Duh = Wo~.de = "mine"
Monitor = "Monitor"
Way = Wai~ = "what"
Sa Ma = sem/.me = "reason"
Lan Sha = Lan~si\ = "Blue"
Literaly "My monitor, for what reason blue?"
I'm not exactly sure about the spelling of Lan~si\, also I've marked the four tones with ascii characters. rising is "/" as in "guo/", "contry". Falling is "\" as in "shi\", "is". The 3rd tone, the 'up-down' one is marked with the tildie "~", as in Mai~, "beautifull, sexy". And the 4th tone is a hyphen '-' as in "fei-", fly.
"Wo~ shi\ mei~guo/ ren/" = "I'm an american"
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Shouldn't you have learned not to trust ZDnet? They tried NT, and they crashed and burned....
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Hrm, I can't get this thing to run under windows, and I don't think iv'e got GL setup correctly under Linux, It page faults imediatly, is anyone else having this problem?
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Keen was made by John Carmack and the other people who founded Id software. I don't know if the source was ever relised, though
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I belive that starcraft runs unmodified on linux under wine
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Actualy, though I could be wrong, I think this law as inacted after the whole IBM thing in the 80's
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... the justices we have there are much more reasonable than Judge Thomas Pinhead Jackson
I guess since you've called him a 'pinhead' now, all his findings are now irrelivent, right?
btw, how can i get one of those *.rog domains?
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The judge said spesificaly that even Mac-OS was considered, he still would have reached the same conclusions
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You never stated that you 'thought that' so I'll do it for you: "You think" that the DOJ is in the wrong. That's you're oppinion, and an opinion not shared by Judge Jackson. He presided over the case, not you.
Dispite what you think about microsoft, they are a monopoly, defined by the Judge, and that is crime.
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Consumers can download Netscape in a matter of minutes.
Try hours... pluss access charges as high as $2.95 an hour
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Well, first of all, the judge spesificaly said that even *if* apple's were considered, his findings of fact would be the same.
If by "monopoly" you mean "large market share on intel computers," then I will agree they have a monopoly. But so what? They gained that "monopoly" fair and square, and I as far as I can see they have committed no crimes in defending that monopoly. You could argue that they have violated antitrust law, but it is so vague that practically every successful company has done this.
A monopoly in and of itself is illigal, they may not be laws that you like, but those are the laws that have been implemented by our system of government. Just beacuse you feel a certan way, dosn't mean that you're correct. If you don't like the laws, vote people who will remove them.
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I think that Microsoft would be interested in dragging out the case as long as possible. Why? The longer a case drags out, the more money it costs. If a case is drug out long enough, someone is going to run out of money and will be forced to drop the case. And Microsoft certainly isn't going to run out of money first.
Remember, the organization figting microsoft here is the Department of Justice, not some other bankrupt company. The US government rakes in 3 times microsofts entire market cap each year, and if they really need to, they could just rase taxes. I don't think it's costing them that much money though...
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Andover.net has no creative control of the site. Crative control was maintaned by Rob "CmndrTaco" Malda, and the other posters (Hemos, Katz, roblimbo, etc).
This was exsplicitly stated in there contract. Also, Rob (and Maybe hemos) sit on andover's board...
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Actualy, the origional hack LinuxPPC chalage did the same thing. It didn't seem 'wrong' in anyway, basicaly like keeping score in a game. The 'intruders' had nothing to hide....
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I don't really know how you could compare the two, Jessie Ventura's just a guy who got elected to Govenor. He's a little 'diffrent' then most polititions, but really that's for the better.
JP, on the other hand is aberant not only to the 'hacker community' but to humanity in general. Nothing else needs to be said about him, although I am intrested in reading this interview...
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Unfortunately (your post not withstanding), the level of intelligent discussion seems to have been dropping steadily in the last six months, maybe even as far back as a year ago. Popularity among the flame-fest loving crowd seems to have driven down the average intelligence level. -A disgusted oldtimer who no longer logs in.
/.'s intelligence level will go down, as with anything as the number of people using goes up. Just look at what happend to usenet. (Systems with stupid users won't atract anyone) I'm sorry, just set your threshold high and be happy. *obviously* Rob, Hemos, and Kats want more readers, not less, since the majority of there site content comes from us.
The fact is,
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Check out http://www.forbes.com/column ists/penenberg/1999/0927.htm. On forbes.com, second paragraph
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I don't know if this has changend, but for quite a while IE was the only browser with java 1.1 support, Netscape still only used 1.0. In order to even view some of the java on Sun's site, I needed to use IE.
:(
I downloaded m10 tonight, and played with it a little. Pretty crazy stuff. I'll go back to netscape right away, once they reach beta, or somthing. I can't wait.
It wasn't able to render www.public.iastate.edu/~cokere/re correctly though
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IE5 is called IEXPLORE.EXE, and explorer.exe is called, well EXPLORER.EXE, They exsist in seperate memory spaces. They are seperate processes. Not linked.
However, Explorer is pretty unstable by itself (much more so then ie5 on my box, actualy). and any stray app can bring it down.
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IE supports Standard Java far better then Netscape. I couldn't even view some of the samples on Java.sun.com in Netscape, worked fine in IE though. I'm still using NS4.05 or somthing along with IE, beacuse I hear the newer versions are even worse.
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Just because Microsoft feels they can release an unstable crappy browser doesn't mean we should loose hope.
IE is not crappy, or unstable. Netscape Is the company that does that, remember? Have you used IE5? it's crashed on me Twice since september. I just downloaded m10 of mozilla, and it looks nice. I'd hardly say it's a month away from reliase though, unless it's going to follow the tradition of all netscape software, buggy as hell
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Many people don't relize this, but I saw someone using AOL once.
they don't use a 'browser' it's all intigrated into AOL software. If aol were to switch to Mozilla, there customers wouldn't even know...
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IE5 shouldn't bring down the shell, infact IE5 is *much* more stable then IE4 was (and exsplorer, in general to)
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