It's more like programming the microcontroller on your escort to not accept the motor form a Mustang, even though it would work perfectly (to make you by a mustang, instead of just a motor) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
If anything, Be was another victim of their closed architecture. The reason that Be doesn't exist for the Mac anymore is because apple wouldn't give the information they needed, they could have reverse engineered, but they didn't think that it would be *worth* it. Be is happily selling there PC version. who's a victim here? Mac users who like the OS, that's who. (and lets not forget all the BeOS fans who switched to Intel boxes...) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
really? I'm a mac hater, And I *love* this, whatever's bad for apple is good for me:) on the other hand, I think a mac user might be pretty pissed off.
100 more G4's because of this, it will be worth it.
not if they piss off 101 potential customers.... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actaly, the price of dual CPU systems is going to come down a lot, probably due to the fact that games using the quake3 engen will be able to take advantage of them.
A dual celeron motherboard costs about $120, and the chips are $70 each. that dosn't sound to exspensive. certanly cheaper then a g4 'supercomputer'. Photoshop under NT supports multiple CPUs. You might not like multiple CPUs since mac's can have 'em. but they are there, and they are cheap
BTW, athlon is about 20% faster then a pIII at the same speed. given that you can get one at 800Mhz, I think it's pretty silly to call them compareable "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
what the fuck is that? a supercomputer with just one CPU? hahaha! that's a joke. if your just talking about performance, then the Pentum 75 I got in 1995 was as fast as a supercomputer from a few years ago. The only conclusion I can come to from your post is that you are brainless mac luser. sorry. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Can I plug an Athlon into the P100 I am using? no, but you could plug a 400mhz k6-3, if your using a socket 7 board. if you're using a socket 5 board, you can get a super7 for less then $60
Did Intell release an official PI-PII upgrade Yes they did. it's call a P-Pro overdrive, I belive.
the thing is, g3's and g4 use the same socket, so while you can't upgrade your 386 to an Athlon, do to physical restrictions. you Can take a celeron 266 up to a pIII 600, a p66 up to a k6-3 450 and so on. If a PC chip uses the same interface it *can* be used. there are no software locks "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
people think some species are better then others beacuse some species *are* better then others! are cock roaches on the same level humans? no they are not. Are you trying to shame someone for being a speciest? geez Other anmials have no problems eating, even brutaly killing other kinds of anmials (even for fun sometimes) why should we?
and what about those poor plants? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The side by side demos during Jobs' keynote were quite impressive.
wow, the side by side benchmarks at *my* keynote, proved that the G4, 8 times slower then a athlon.
I was comparing winzip to stuffit.
it's not to hard to make somthign 'impressive' when real benchmarks come out, from reputible sources, I'll buy it. so far, just about every benchmark to come out of apple has been bogus "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
It's more reasonable to compare Windows with MacOS since you can't go out and buy a PC with Linux installed at major retailers,
does Dell count? also, windows *does* have a very usefull CLI, it's called command.com. you can't do much network stuf, but you can pipe output from one app to another, use command line options, and interface with programs in text mode. I'ts not as cool as Bash though "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
No tiresome IRQ or compatibility messes. That's true, but it's getting better
That's why it's a lot easier to get video editing stuff working on the Mac, and it keeps on working once installed. I didn't have any trouble, and I don't know anyone who has (granted I only know one other person with video stuf, but on the other hand, I used to love it when Premiere would crash the Macs at school and I would loose a couple hours worth of work)
A Mac is still a lot more fun to use than a PC, because it has a far more aesthetically pleasing look and feel. maybe for you, but I hate it. what you just said was not a fact but an oppinion. You like the mac, beacuse you're used to it. I've used both macs and PCs, and I prefer the PC. I actualy started out using macs, and switched over, so it can't be *that* great.
Did you ever read John Carmack's.plan update about starting to program the macs? He didn't like the interface ether. Many people find it ugly
The Windows(tm) interface is both ugly and byzantine Again, an unqualified opinion, I think the Mac interface is ugly, windows 3.1 was ugly, but the 95 shell looks pretty nice to me (not as cool as E or something on linux, though). An appropriate thing to say would be "many Mac zealots find The Windows(tm)interface both ugly and Byzantine"
(compare what it takes to get TCP/IP networking work on each platform, for instance).
Hrm, lets see... 1) Plug in Ethernet card 2) plug in cable 3) turn on computer
that's all it took to get *me* on the net (DHCP is nice:)) Getting it to work over a modem, generally requires you to enter a phone number, an L/P, and nothing else. I know, I've done it.
Whenever I need to use mainstream software such as Photoshop, I go gladly to my Mac. I'm glad it's there - and I have Irix, Linux, BeOS and Windows systems. That's fantastic, I will not, and if software isn't available for windows (or linux) I won't use it.
Remember, Macs may have nice hardware setups, but they are by far overpriced (an Imac for $1200 when at the the time you could get an equivalent PC for $600 or less). a lot of people on/. like to mention how much 98 and NT crash. I don't know about NT, but 98 doesn't crash that often (the original 95 was pretty bad though)
In Mac OS is the most unstable Operating System I have ever used. If given a choice, I wouldn't run anything like photoshop, given that I might loose all my work in a system crash. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
And I might want to use it again, it's to bad you posted as AC so I can't credit you, however. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Why don't you read the document, all that this 'NSAKEY' lets the NSA do is build cryptographic plugins for Windows, it doesn't give them the equivalent of root on your system at all! (This if what I got from the article). The *most* that the NSA could do would be to get you to install there component, then they could read information you encrypted with it. And there is *no* reason to think that the NSA even has anything to do with this! Remember, the NSA *does* make encryption products. Remember DES? Microsoft might have put that there to allow easy incorporation of new NSA algorithms
People please, realize that this *does not* give the NSA the ability to look at anything on your windows box, at most it might give them the ability to decrypt information that you encrypt with MSFT products. Since most people don't encrypt anything anyway, this has no baring whatsoever.
Also, I believe that there is a lot of Code in Linux that comes out of the NSA, correct me if I'm wrong "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I belive that the laws apply to anything made *by* an American, in America. I mean, the question of the location of a box is practically retarded. what difference does it make where the actual box your telneting to exists?
You might be on better legal standing if you physically moved the computer, but I seriously doubt that any judge (at least one who didn't question the constitutional merits of the 'law'...) would laugh you out of court if you tried to say that because you were telneting to another country, you were not exporting anything. you still did you *thinking* here
You are still allowed to work on crypto, even download foreign source and play with it. you just can export the results(so if it was GPL, you probably couldn't distribute the results. not with the BSD license though, I think)
I would talk to a lawyer if before trying to physically transport yourself for coding. But it's not really that important for Americans to be able to do this, (for the word, I mean. I realize it is important to Americans themselves). There are many intelligent people in the world working on these problems, they might want our help, but they don't need it. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the BSD licens spesificaly alows relicense with whatever you what. How can you ramble on about how "free" it is and then not exspect me to be able to relicens it under whatever I want?
the GPL can't do anything to *your* code if you don't use it. if you realy don't like it, then don't modify GPL software. remember, someone else wrote it to begin with, and they wanted to use the GPL with *there* code.
personaly, if I was going to do an OSS project, I would use the GPL, just beacuse I wouldn't want anyone else to *profit unfairly* from *my* work. remember, as the author of the origional software, you can do whatever you want. including sell a propritary version. with BSD, *anyone* can sell a propritary version. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
it's way underpowerd for what they are trying to do (be the central FTP server for the world). they should have 5 or 10 boxes running solaris, if they really cared. but they don't. and I can't even log on half the time "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Microsoft *is* propritary software... you don't really think there are *people* in those big buildings at One Microsoft Way, Redmond WA?
it is WA, right?
you could also say that it's busness practices, policys and structures are like software to... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
"I think it was quite a wise decision personally as linux has more developer mindshare (to coin a phrase), "
you did not coin that phrase. Someone else did, you are just using it. don't be exspressionaly illiterate! (to coin a phrase) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
you know, I was really thinking that they might do somthing with this... now? I don't know. It seemed like they had a viable busness plan to. It would be pretty damn funny if Amiga actualy managed to bring down Gateway though:) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
User Bio I am a 36y/o in Georgia. I am a vice president for a rather large company. balh..blah..blah.. ADenton has posted 3 comments (this only counts the last few weeks)
1 Re:umm ok posted on Monday August 30, @08:41PM CDT (Score:1 Replies:1) attached to LinuxPPC challenge rides again
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Gee, I wonder who this could be?? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the string '911' anywhere in a phone number will contact your local emergency phone center. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
so, *most* of them are collage educated, middle class people, just like most white people. as a persentage there are more poor blacks then poor whites, but in total there are more poor whites then poor blacks. this is a common misconseption, but to say The majority of this culture has grown up knowing absolutely nothing but poverty and ignorance... it is not as simple as many have suggested to just state that they now have the oportunities as everyone else. They do not.
is completely wrong, racist and stupid "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
It's not 'The' pentium, it's just "pentium" the correct use of the terms is like this: "I got pentium, so the internet will be faster now". and don't forget the pentium III, it makes the internet imersive "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
actualy, bad sectors *are* caused by software, I once had about 20% of my hard drive marked bad beacuse I had a bios-setting misset, and scandisk couldn't access the rest of the disk.... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
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It's more like programming the microcontroller on your escort to not accept the motor form a Mustang, even though it would work perfectly (to make you by a mustang, instead of just a motor)
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If anything, Be was another victim of their closed architecture.
The reason that Be doesn't exist for the Mac anymore is because apple wouldn't give the information they needed, they could have reverse engineered, but they didn't think that it would be *worth* it. Be is happily selling there PC version. who's a victim here? Mac users who like the OS, that's who. (and lets not forget all the BeOS fans who switched to Intel boxes...)
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really? I'm a mac hater, And I *love* this, whatever's bad for apple is good for me :) on the other hand, I think a mac user might be pretty pissed off.
100 more G4's because of this, it will be worth it.
not if they piss off 101 potential customers....
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Actaly, the price of dual CPU systems is going to come down a lot, probably due to the fact that games using the quake3 engen will be able to take advantage of them.
A dual celeron motherboard costs about $120, and the chips are $70 each. that dosn't sound to exspensive. certanly cheaper then a g4 'supercomputer'. Photoshop under NT supports multiple CPUs. You might not like multiple CPUs since mac's can have 'em. but they are there, and they are cheap
BTW, athlon is about 20% faster then a pIII at the same speed. given that you can get one at 800Mhz, I think it's pretty silly to call them compareable
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what the fuck is that? a supercomputer with just one CPU? hahaha! that's a joke. if your just talking about performance, then the Pentum 75 I got in 1995 was as fast as a supercomputer from a few years ago. The only conclusion I can come to from your post is that you are brainless mac luser. sorry.
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Can I plug an Athlon into the P100 I am using?
no, but you could plug a 400mhz k6-3, if your using a socket 7 board. if you're using a socket 5 board, you can get a super7 for less then $60
Did Intell release an official PI-PII upgrade
Yes they did. it's call a P-Pro overdrive, I belive.
the thing is, g3's and g4 use the same socket, so while you can't upgrade your 386 to an Athlon, do to physical restrictions. you Can take a celeron 266 up to a pIII 600, a p66 up to a k6-3 450 and so on. If a PC chip uses the same interface it *can* be used. there are no software locks
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(and if you believe somehow the humans are superior...that is plain specieism.
H AHAHAH
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people think some species are better then others beacuse some species *are* better then others! are cock roaches on the same level humans? no they are not. Are you trying to shame someone for being a speciest? geez Other anmials have no problems eating, even brutaly killing other kinds of anmials (even for fun sometimes) why should we?
and what about those poor plants?
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The side by side demos during Jobs' keynote were quite impressive.
wow, the side by side benchmarks at *my* keynote, proved that the G4, 8 times slower then a athlon.
I was comparing winzip to stuffit.
it's not to hard to make somthign 'impressive' when real benchmarks come out, from reputible sources, I'll buy it. so far, just about every benchmark to come out of apple has been bogus
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It's more reasonable to compare Windows with MacOS since you can't go out and buy a PC with Linux installed at major retailers,
does Dell count?
also, windows *does* have a very usefull CLI, it's called command.com. you can't do much network stuf, but you can pipe output from one app to another, use command line options, and interface with programs in text mode. I'ts not as cool as Bash though
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No tiresome IRQ or compatibility messes.
.plan update about starting to program the macs? He didn't like the interface ether. Many people find it ugly
:)) Getting it to work over a modem, generally requires you to enter a phone number, an L/P, and nothing else. I know, I've done it.
/. like to mention how much 98 and NT crash. I don't know about NT, but 98 doesn't crash that often (the original 95 was pretty bad though)
That's true, but it's getting better
That's why it's a lot easier to get video editing stuff working on the Mac, and it keeps on working once installed.
I didn't have any trouble, and I don't know anyone who has (granted I only know one other person with video stuf, but on the other hand, I used to love it when Premiere would crash the Macs at school and I would loose a couple hours worth of work)
A Mac is still a lot more fun to use than a PC, because it has a far more aesthetically pleasing look and feel.
maybe for you, but I hate it. what you just said was not a fact but an oppinion. You like the mac, beacuse you're used to it. I've used both macs and PCs, and I prefer the PC. I actualy started out using macs, and switched over, so it can't be *that* great.
Did you ever read John Carmack's
The Windows(tm) interface is both ugly and byzantine
Again, an unqualified opinion, I think the Mac interface is ugly, windows 3.1 was ugly, but the 95 shell looks pretty nice to me (not as cool as E or something on linux, though). An appropriate thing to say would be "many Mac zealots find The Windows(tm)interface both ugly and Byzantine"
(compare what it takes to get TCP/IP networking work on each platform, for instance).
Hrm, lets see...
1) Plug in Ethernet card
2) plug in cable
3) turn on computer
that's all it took to get *me* on the net (DHCP is nice
Whenever I need to use mainstream software such as Photoshop, I go gladly to my Mac. I'm glad it's there - and I have Irix, Linux, BeOS and Windows systems.
That's fantastic, I will not, and if software isn't available for windows (or linux) I won't use it.
Remember, Macs may have nice hardware setups, but they are by far overpriced (an Imac for $1200 when at the the time you could get an equivalent PC for $600 or less).
a lot of people on
In Mac OS is the most unstable Operating System I have ever used. If given a choice, I wouldn't run anything like photoshop, given that I might loose all my work in a system crash.
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And I might want to use it again, it's to bad you posted as AC so I can't credit you, however.
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Why don't you read the document, all that this 'NSAKEY' lets the NSA do is build cryptographic plugins for Windows, it doesn't give them the equivalent of root on your system at all! (This if what I got from the article). The *most* that the NSA could do would be to get you to install there component, then they could read information you encrypted with it. And there is *no* reason to think that the NSA even has anything to do with this! Remember, the NSA *does* make encryption products. Remember DES? Microsoft might have put that there to allow easy incorporation of new NSA algorithms
People please, realize that this *does not* give the NSA the ability to look at anything on your windows box, at most it might give them the ability to decrypt information that you encrypt with MSFT products. Since most people don't encrypt anything anyway, this has no baring whatsoever.
Also, I believe that there is a lot of Code in Linux that comes out of the NSA, correct me if I'm wrong
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perhaps I should have read the GPL before spouting off... :)
anyway, I could still "add" a GPL like licens, if I wanted to...
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I belive that the laws apply to anything made *by* an American, in America. I mean, the question of the location of a box is practically retarded. what difference does it make where the actual box your telneting to exists?
You might be on better legal standing if you physically moved the computer, but I seriously doubt that any judge (at least one who didn't question the constitutional merits of the 'law'...) would laugh you out of court if you tried to say that because you were telneting to another country, you were not exporting anything. you still did you *thinking* here
You are still allowed to work on crypto, even download foreign source and play with it. you just can export the results(so if it was GPL, you probably couldn't distribute the results. not with the BSD license though, I think)
I would talk to a lawyer if before trying to physically transport yourself for coding. But it's not really that important for Americans to be able to do this, (for the word, I mean. I realize it is important to Americans themselves). There are many intelligent people in the world working on these problems, they might want our help, but they don't need it.
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the BSD licens spesificaly alows relicense with whatever you what. How can you ramble on about how "free" it is and then not exspect me to be able to relicens it under whatever I want?
the GPL can't do anything to *your* code if you don't use it. if you realy don't like it, then don't modify GPL software. remember, someone else wrote it to begin with, and they wanted to use the GPL with *there* code.
personaly, if I was going to do an OSS project, I would use the GPL, just beacuse I wouldn't want anyone else to *profit unfairly* from *my* work. remember, as the author of the origional software, you can do whatever you want. including sell a propritary version. with BSD, *anyone* can sell a propritary version.
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Iv'e got one of those in my windows98 box, it works fine
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it's way underpowerd for what they are trying to do (be the central FTP server for the world). they should have 5 or 10 boxes running solaris, if they really cared. but they don't. and I can't even log on half the time
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Microsoft *is* propritary software... you don't really think there are *people* in those big buildings at One Microsoft Way, Redmond WA?
it is WA, right?
you could also say that it's busness practices, policys and structures are like software to...
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"I think it was quite a wise decision personally as linux has more developer mindshare (to coin a phrase), "
you did not coin that phrase. Someone else did, you are just using it. don't be exspressionaly illiterate! (to coin a phrase)
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you know, I was really thinking that they might do somthing with this... now? I don't know. It seemed like they had a viable busness plan to. It would be pretty damn funny if Amiga actualy managed to bring down Gateway though :)
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I am a 36y/o in Georgia. I am a vice president for a rather large company. balh..blah..blah.. ADenton has posted 3 comments (this only counts the last few weeks)
1 Re:umm ok posted on Monday August 30, @08:41PM CDT (Score:1 Replies:1)
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Gee, I wonder who this could be??
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the string '911' anywhere in a phone number will contact your local emergency phone center.
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so, *most* of them are collage educated, middle class people, just like most white people. as a persentage there are more poor blacks then poor whites, but in total there are more poor whites then poor blacks. this is a common misconseption, but to say The majority of this culture has grown up knowing absolutely nothing but poverty and ignorance... it is not as simple as many have suggested to just state that they now have the oportunities as everyone else. They do not.
is completely wrong, racist and stupid
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It's not 'The' pentium, it's just "pentium" the correct use of the terms is like this: "I got pentium, so the internet will be faster now". and don't forget the pentium III, it makes the internet imersive
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actualy, bad sectors *are* caused by software, I once had about 20% of my hard drive marked bad beacuse I had a bios-setting misset, and scandisk couldn't access the rest of the disk....
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