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Amiga's president unexpectedly resigns

TuxDaddy writes "Jim Collas has resigned as president of Amiga-however no details are available yet. " Well, let the speculation machine run rampant-is Amiga serious? Is there anything happening with them?Update: 09/01 07:42 by H :Well, they've announced their new president as Tim Schmidt. Collas has left to "pursue personal interests".

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  1. Incredible drama. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And stealth chips, super-secret designs, slipping hints of Transmeta, CEO's bailing out all of this high drama and churning around... I hope all of this amounts to something more than jedi-minds tricks. To pull the transmeta card during the hype and then not follow through with it in the real product would be *EVIL*.

  2. Amiga Pie by Om · · Score: 1


    ... and this one time... at band camp.. we were talking about bringing back the Amiga.. and it was.. like.. so cool...

    ... Hey guys!. I know what we could do... we could like... tell lies about the Amiga.. but this time.. say the lies backwards... that would be so cool... like: "Revolution new the start will we." That would be sooo funny..

  3. Re:The Curse Of the Amiga - TI too by British · · Score: 1

    The TI-994/A had this, much along the lines of the Amiga.
    There was always interesting projects done by people in the TI field doing revolutionary software or hardware, but then, suddenly out of nowhere, the author dies, or gets completely fed up with the TI scene, and disappears altogether.

  4. Just a note... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inside Gateway Amiga Inc. has the reputation of being the place that they send people that they can't get rid of. Despite all of the press, I really don't believe the upper management at Gateway gives a rip about the Amiga. Ex-GW2K Emp.

  5. Re:Collas out.. by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    The classic Amiga is doomed in the long run by its tight coupling with NTSC/PAL video and custom hardware tied to that legacy.

    Just one nit to pick... the Amiga isn't tightly coupled with NTSC/PAL at all. Many Amiga users with graphics cards haven't seen an Amiga chipset screenmode in years. Heck, the Draco Amiga clone didn't even have all that hardware. The Amiga does indeed have a few problems with being held back by legacy concerns, but graphics/display isn't one of them.


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  6. What's the deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the deal with Amiga? What are they doing? How are they doing it? When will they do it? What will it cost? How much money do they have? Etc, etc, etc. If they don't give us something other than vapor and strange rumors, nobody's going to care when they bring whatever it is their doing to market.

  7. Real Amiga People? by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    Are any of the real (read: original) Amiga people still with Amiga? Are Collas and/or his replacement longtime Amiga people, or were they brought in in the last few years? It'd be nice if they still had some of the original people around. What would really suck is if they make something completely unrelated to the Amiga but slap the "Amiga" name on it just for the hell of it (and because they own the rights to the name).

    1. Re:Real Amiga People? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't kill the idea nor the dream. Sure, but it's my dream. Real Amiga oldsters will remember the "Swabby", Red's Dream.

    2. Re:Real Amiga People? by downix · · Score: 1

      Ok, not to found quite insane, but:
      I was a die-hard PC fan, just bought myself a brand-new Compaq Presario 600, 486-DX2 CPU. I was rocken w/ 256 colors. I thought nothing could toast me.
      Then I saw my first Amiga.
      It was nothing too spectacular, an Amiga 3000. Commodore had been bankrupt and gone for 5 months at this point, but this little 25Mhz box was ripping my 66Mhz box a new posterior. I felt jipped.
      What did I do?
      I kept on using my Compaq, upset that it wasn't the coolest or the smartest thing since sliced bread.
      After that, I bought myself another PC, Pentium 166. Thought "Aha, I can beat that Amiga now" so I went to my friends house again. Nope, couldn't do it.
      Guess what I did then... I bought myself an Amiga! Amiga 1200 w/ PPC/060 card. I've had problems with workbench, but otherwise, the machine is fine. I had never worked on such a logical machine before.
      When I'd heard that Gateway had bought the Amiga, I groaned. I knew that Gateway couldn't bring out a decent product. So far, all indications say that I am right.
      Something about the Amiga is different than any other computer. It's not the OS, it's not the hardware. It's the fact that everything works together. No PC or Mac in the world can do the same feat, nor will they ever. They're designed by committe, not by inspiration. The "new Amiga" is no inspired design, not from the likes of gateway. It is yet another "ok folks, what can we hack together to make money with?"
      One day, the Amiga's concepts will live again, in some new machine w/o an Amiga logo on it. Probably won't even be backwards compatable. Actually, I'll guarantee that it's not. But, the ideology will be the same. Integrate, cooperate and distribute.
      My 2-bits

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  8. Here's where he went! Atari! by hatless · · Score: 1

    I hear Collas is heading to the new Atari Computer, a division of SGI that will be using intellectual property from the 400/800/XL/XE series, the revolutionary "poor man's Mac" ST series, and the mighty Jaguar to make a new 4-processor system, each processor completely different from the others.

    It's going to be amazing stuff. They've been demoing a prototype running a new version of Star Raiders at 1600x1280 on stereoscopic goggles. It's fully immersive, especially if you use the full-body tactile suit.

  9. McEwen is out too by R3 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what this guy was exactly doing (look like some sort PR/evangelist)...he quit today, too:

    http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/31_8mcewen. html

  10. Re:Optimistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the Amiga is so dead, why are we all still here talking about it? I was a great concept that we refuse to let die. It still is a great concept. The mistake AI have made, was the assumption that the Amiga concept can not be updated. I for one think it can. By donning the IBM-clone/Linux cloak they lower themselves into the abyss of anonymity. Although, I am really enjoying my G3! ;) Glad to hear it :-) Although if it's the processor you're impressed by, why don't who dig out an Amiga and put one of the new G3 boards in ($700 for 400mhz G3 - not bad :-)

  11. A2000 by Y2K+is+bogus · · Score: 1

    They can't, the A2000 is already a compute they made! :)

  12. Re:More Fun New Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot shuts up about Amiga stuff since the Amiga _doesn't_fscking_exist_!!!"

    Oh? What's this thing on my desk. Well bless my soul, it's an Amiga.

  13. Re:The Curse Of the Amiga - TI too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gateway must be a Voodoo witch doctor then, because they also bought the cursed remanents of the TI-994/A.

  14. Computing Aesthetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you're talking about here, is "computing aesthetic" Something which the modern computer industry just doesn't understand. It's not about how fast this machine is, or how many polygons this machine can shift. It's about beauty and aesthetic.

  15. Re:Get out while the getting is good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is not that i think Amiga has a chance or anything... but that last part on your statement. Dude are you on drugs or something? P.S: no i don't have a dell nor Micron, nor gateway computer... i bought the parts, so i guess you could call it home-bread heheh :)

  16. More Fun New Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another fun new game we can play! It's called "Slashdot shuts up about Amiga stuff since the Amiga _doesn't_fscking_exist_!!!"

    Anyone else in?

  17. FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Intersting then, that Collas chose to become president of Amiga.

  18. Re:The real reason Collas left... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which is selling at about $95 now, down thanks to him

    On what information do you base that supersition?

  19. Re:It's a Conspiracy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you might be right, but conspiracy is the wrong word I suspect. Collas thought the Amiga people deserved being kept informed about the goings-on on the understanding that what we learnt be kept under our hats. The simple truth is, no company can be run on such a basis. Following all the high-profile press coverage in recent weeks, it seems the attention Amiga was drawing to itself (and Gateway) became a little to much.

    In short, I suspect the stealth mode has been initiated for no other reason than to avert the eyes of competitors.

  20. Marc Barrett, is that YOU? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chripes this reminds me of comp.os.amiga.advocacy....all we need now is Jerry J. Shekhel to raise his ugly spectre.

    Blazemonger forever!!!

  21. Gratuitous Startrek-Like Quote. by Inoshiro · · Score: 1

    Captain Kirk and the Amiga are walking, and Kirk is about to go into his, "you must sleep with me because I'm a captain and it's in my contract" spiel, when suddeny..

    Steve Jobs: There you are! Revenge!
    (Stabs Amiga with new G4-virus poisoned Klingon Knife)
    Amiga: Ahhh!

    Kirk: Emergency beam up, now!
    (Weeooohoowoo)

    (In transporter room)
    Bones: 20ccs of Torvaldsisol...
    (Injects Amiga, Amiga seems to struggle for life, but then stops moving).
    Bones: She's dead, Jim...

    Jim: Damn. I guess I find a new job now.

    So much for Jim's job :-)

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  22. ...and the first TalkBack poster... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is none other than Dave "watch me whittle a katana" Haynie, Amiga Hardware Engineer.

    Wow, small world.

  23. That's BLAZEMONGER! you cretin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The BLAZEMONGER! Customer "service" Department will be around to break your legs shortly.

    Ahh, I remember the old "Amiga vs NeXT" flame wars, and the "Amiga vs OS/2" flame wars....

    And while the Romans fought amongst themselves, the barbarians conquored the Empire.

  24. "pursue personal interests". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    more like "jump off the sinking USS Vaporware"

  25. Precisely! by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2

    Except of course that Jay Miner is still dead... Who else could they get?

    Still dead, you say? Ahh, but that's what Transmeta's really working on!


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    1. Re:Precisely! by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

      Still dead, you say? Ahh, but that's what Transmeta's really working on!

      They'd be better off calling the 'Psychic Fraud^h^h^heinds Network then. :-)

  26. Read my lips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Amiga is DEAD!"

    DEAD! DEAD DEAD!

    It's DEAD I tell you.

    It's been dead for like 8 years. Let's let it rest in peace.

  27. This is no TROLL... (Offtopic: Nick) by Sun+Tzu · · Score: 2

    ...for he is tattooed with the number of the BEAST! He just looks like a troll. ;-)

  28. how many times are you going to post this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just wondering...

  29. You got that straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man oh man, I was an Amiga diehard in the a500 days, showing off to the PC bretheren, preaching the way etc etc, but now I am one of the'lowly' PC users, ( gotta hate all that topnotch 3d cards / soundcards /PIII - Athlon etc :-) ) and I have to say it is a shame to see AMIGA go this way. Constant wafling on direction , technology etc. Basically I think they have blown it. The QNX scenario was a pretty cool idea.... but there you go. Linux wasn't the direction to take in my opinion, and was just AMIGA Int. trying to bandwagon on the current press Lx is enjoying right now. Too many chiefs and all that I guess. "All they are is dust in the wind....... "

  30. speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Collas was big on the linux thing and the consumer-multimedia-box thingy, while the rest of us hardcore Amigans want a computer with a powerfull AmigaOS.

    Who made you the offical spokesman for the "rest of" the Amiga community?

  31. Yup, just like SGI by Zico · · Score: 1

    Step 1: Witness your business struggling. Step 2: In a last ditch effort, embrace Linux. Step 3: Watch your company leader leave posthaste as your company crumbles.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

    1. Re:Yup, just like SGI by madprof · · Score: 1

      Last ditch effort = months of research, does it?
      Just because QNX decided to pretend that they'd not been dropped and bring out their tech just before the Amiga was finally announced properly, doesn't mean that was a last minute decision.
      I think it was quite a wise decision personally as linux has more developer mindshare (to coin a phrase), there are fewer licence restrictions and if you believe the rumours it is not as if Linus Torvalds is not too far away to get advice from, is it?
      Why don't we al wait till November to see what is released, or if you're impatient, the next press release? Might save premature obituaries.

  32. "IBM Crap"??? What year is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, when was the last time IBM was a force in the PC industry...last time I checked they just made NT boxes like everyone else.

  33. Re:Hmm! by ninjaz · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.. Maybe it's time for another Freedows article. :)

  34. Re:Get out while the getting is good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, then they better hurry and start shipping dual and quad PowerMac G4s. And MacOS X too. Once they have all of those things in place then they can truly compete with SGI and Intergraph.
    As for the supercomputer thing, well, it's obvoulsy marketing speak BS, but it will be intersting to see a P3, Athlon and G4 benchmarks.

    Anyways, this is totally offtopic, I can't wait for the next installment of the Amiga soap opera.

  35. Optimistic by scottgfx · · Score: 1

    I didn't buy a Mac until 2 years after Commodore closed it's doors. I just bought a new G3 system. Yet I look forward to seeing a new Amiga... some day. I'm optimistic because I have a feeling that Jim Collas didn't leave because he wanted to. Lets look at the past couple of months... There's all sorts of odd messages coming out of Amiga. Nothing really fits, and nothing is very consistant. QNX to Linux in a couple of months??? Where the heck are they going?

    Fast forward to today. I imagine a room full of Gateway execs looking at the goings on and deciding that something has got to change. I also imagine a bunck of Amiga execs wishing that the spotlight would go away so they can get some work done. So they get rid of Collas to return some sanity to the workplace. Anyone else out there buy this?

    If the Amiga is so dead, why are we all still here talking about it? I was a great concept that we refuse to let die.

    Although, I am really enjoying my G3! ;)

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  36. Re:Schmidt appointed new Amiga president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone notice that Dave Haynie was the first person to post to that item's talkback?

  37. Re:Well... by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    ya ha.. that was the signature.

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  38. Re:My Lame 2 cents by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    Thank you.

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  39. My thoughts as paraphrased... by yAm · · Score: 1
    O: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I adn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!

    C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!

    O: No no! 'E's pining!

    C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

    :s/Parrot/Amiga/g

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  40. Re:Let it die. by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    Hey now there's a good question.. is there source to this wonderful Amiga OS? Even now?

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  41. end of an era by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where is the 'amiga anonymous' site again?? i've had had it. that's it, history, zilch, no more amiga for me. i'm going out today and getting a linux box, and that's that.

  42. Re:This is a publicity stunt by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    or read the reviews on slashdot.

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  43. WE WILL FIGHT ON FOREVER AND NEVER SURRENDER. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!! NEVER!! NEVER!!! The Amiga was, is and always will be the BEST multimedia computer ON EARTH and neither Apple with their lame-ass G4 Velocity nor Intel with their ultra-wuss PIII can ever change that!! Back in the day we were KING, KING I tell you with millions of colors outta the box, full multitasking OS and ALL THAT and we will be again some day, JUST YOU WAIT!!! It'll HAPPEN!!!

    Didn't they say Apple was dead back in the day?! Just a few years ago??! Yeah, "Apple, it's over, they'll never come back blah blah blah" and then Steve Jobs gets in there and WHAMMO!!! They're rollin' hot again with 7 consecutive profitable quarters, growing market share and the works!! And this with shitty suck-puters like the iMac and the G3!! We'll be back!! One day when you all wake up to the news that Amiga Inc. has released the voice-activated Amiga OS 5.0 with a new Transmeta 5Ghz box with 1 Gig RAM on board and a 1Tbyte HD and it's all TRULY REVOLUTIONARY and cost's only two hundred bucks American THAT'S when you nay-sayers'll EAT YOUR WORDS!!!! COUNT ON IT!!!!!!!

    DESTINY IS WHAT WE MAKE IT. BANZAI, FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY, GOD BLESS AMERICA AND LONG LIVE THE AMIGA!!!! (Insert stirring strains of "Amiga uber alles" here).

    Heh. How's *that* for frightening, eh? ;-)

    1. Re:WE WILL FIGHT ON FOREVER AND NEVER SURRENDER. by metaphysicist · · Score: 1

      SING IT BROTHER! [OR SISTER]

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    2. Re:WE WILL FIGHT ON FOREVER AND NEVER SURRENDER. by scottgfx · · Score: 1

      ROFL! I think I took this in the spirit that it was intended! ;) I just want Deluxe Paint back!!!

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  44. Re:My Lame 2 cents by eponymous+cohort · · Score: 2

    There's no absolute proof that they are using a Transmeta CPU. There's also no proof that Transmeta is even making CPUs, so therefore it must be true!

    Seriously I had read an account that a presentation that Amiga was giving used the name "Transmeta" in it. The people giving the presentation would not comment on it.

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  45. Re:The real reason Collas left... by venkman · · Score: 1

    well when I posted, I had just finished checking the NASDAQ for Gateway. The stock was down something like 1.1 % for the day and there was 852,000 shares traded. If someone dropped 118,000 shares (as mentioned in the ZDNet article) that would normally cause the price to dip. Granted 1.1 % ain't much, and could have been caused by other market forces, but its a good chance that his sale had something to go with it.

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  46. Re: algorithm by xinos · · Score: 1

    Ok, that one cracked me up! =8^)

  47. Amiga by drwiii · · Score: 2

    Just FYI, there's an Amiga section currently getting underway on the new osonline.org discussion site.

  48. Dr. McCoy gets the last word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kirk: "Bones, you must save it"

    McCoy: "I'm a doctor, not a iCEO"

    Pause, McCoy looks at the tricorder readout.

    McCoy" "Its dead Jim"

  49. Re:Collas out.. by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

    Of course, of computers are "doomed to failure in the long run", we'd still be using Altairs & 4040 cpu's (or valves) if it didn't.

    Well, that is true, but then again, when doom came to those products, the companies quit building and selling them.

    But then no-one has said they will develop the Classic hardware, but they will support it as long as it is feasible.

    Actually I've seen more than a few Amiga fans suggest that (at least as an interim step) they more-or-less reintroduce the 'classic' hardware with a few hot-rod type features. Personally I don't think that would be a very commercially viable thing to do since it is unlikely anyone other than a few Amiga diehards would buy one. Especially given the retooling costs, I don't think that they could be built at a reasonable price and still have enough features and performance to be competitive with current PC clone and/or Mac hardware.

    Also, there are several Amiga companies working on PPC systems (although IMHO the early "PowerUP" cards are rather poor), with 68k emulation & porting parts of the OS to PPC.

    That sort of approach would have made sense to do around the time that Apple made their 68K->PPC transition, but it seems a little late in the game to do it now.

  50. Axed because.... by Root+Moose · · Score: 1

    ...he pulled the plug on QNX and now there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of making the deliverables any time soon.

    QA? What's that?

    Transmeta? Don't hold your breath - VC sponsored wankfest with no product to be ever delivered.

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  51. Re:Well... by belbo · · Score: 1

    Well, we are talking about Amiga, aren't we? No possibility to wrap an even weirder theory around their behaviour...

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  52. Hmm! by poptix_work · · Score: 1

    Well, maybe amiga -is- dead =P

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    1. Re:Hmm! by Fideist11 · · Score: 1

      seems like amiga is in the press alot...even though from what i understand they aren't much more than a washed-up company....weird...i guess CmdrTaco likes to cover them

  53. Get out while the getting is good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is absolutely obvious that the introduction of the Apple PowerMac G4 has caused the President of Amiga to resign. Amiga is no longer the king of multimedia and Amiga knows that there is no possible way that they can compete with the new Apple consumer supercomputer. I expect the presidents of Compaq, Dell, Micron and Gateway to follow suit very shortly...

    1. Re:Get out while the getting is good... by webslacker · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think Compaq and Dell are in different markets. Right now Apple's drawing concentric red circles on SGI and Intergraph.

  54. Re: Hmm. First Amiga Goes Silent... by Ignis+De+Maligne · · Score: 0

    Then their "fearless leader" resigns.

    AmigaOS 3.5 must have been a flop :)

  55. The Curse Of the Amiga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wow...the "curse of the Amiga" takes yet another victim. Even if they were to bring product to market today, would anyone have enough faith in the company to purchase it? Somewhere, Mehdi Ali is laughing at all of this...

    1. Re:The Curse Of the Amiga by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

      Wow...the "curse of the Amiga" takes yet another victim.

      Hmmm... I am not sure who is victim and who is villan here, according to what some people have said about this guy.

      Even if they were to bring product to market today, would anyone have enough faith in the company to purchase it?

      No way. I never trusted Commodore enough to buy anything from them. I trusted Escom even less. I've been wondering if Amiga will somehow end up killing Gateway since they bought the corpse of Amiga.

      Somewhere, Mehdi Ali is laughing at all of this...

      Laughing while he counts his ill-gotten gains, no doubt. On the other hand, hindsight being what it is, I don't see that things would have been that much different in the long run had Commodore and Escom had less incompetent and/or corrupt management.

    2. Re:The Curse Of the Amiga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Mehdi Ali is laughing at all of this...

      Now there was a guy that made the current guys look competant...

  56. Maybe it's for the best by mattdm · · Score: 1
    I always thought he looked a bit smarmy.

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    1. Re:Maybe it's for the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn!

      It's the whitest guy alive!

      I'll bet he quit because they kept him buried in peat moss...

  57. Full story here. by mattdm · · Score: 3
    ZDNet has a longer article. Doesn't really say much more though.

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  58. *sigh* by delmoi · · Score: 1

    you know, I was really thinking that they might do somthing with this... now? I don't know. It seemed like they had a viable busness plan to. It would be pretty damn funny if Amiga actualy managed to bring down Gateway though :)
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  59. Excellent News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The guy who screwed the Amiga by scrapping everything his predecessors had done and demanding they make nothing more than another Linux Box has gone.

    THANK GOODNESS.

    Now maybe Amiga can get back to developing a WORTHWHILE ALTERNATIVE.

    Good riddance Collas.

    1. Re:Excellent News! by Zurk · · Score: 1

      yeah. like a web tv clone box for example.

  60. Sorta crushes my idea of buying a new amiga by Sp@mMan · · Score: 0

    I was gonna get a new amiga when they come out, but NOW, think about it, if the president quits, how good can they be? Either side of the coin, if the Amiga is projected to do well, from within the company, wouldnt the president stick with it, either for the money, or the creative recognition? Cant be a good sign at all.

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    1. Re:Sorta crushes my idea of buying a new amiga by GregWebb · · Score: 1

      It could be that the guy went to Amiga hoping it would take less time than working high up in Gateway then found what the Amiga users were like, y'know...

      It's not impossible that he genuinely has resigned for legit reasons, given what the Amiga community's like. I know, I'm still on the fringes of it myself.

      I'm still asking myself whether he was jumped or pushed though. He's annoyed me already with the Linux decision which, realistic as it may be, substantially reduced the probability of it turning out anything revolutionary. Downgraded a near-certain purchase to a fairly likely one. Nonetheless, he seems to have made some good decisions too, so I dunno.

      Either way, this alone shouldn't influence my likelihood of getting one and I can't see why it should for anyone else.

      Greg

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  61. Re:Well... by Squid · · Score: 2

    A good self-consistent paranoid conspiracy theory would be an IMPROVEMENT over the information we (don't) have right now...

  62. Well... by belbo · · Score: 3
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    1. Re:Well... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      I think the whole 'Amiga revival' is a conspiracy by CmdrTaco to keep Slashdot supplied with stories.

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  63. see algorithm below by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if( !CanProduce( ROCKIN_G4_ATX_MOBO ) )
    {
    CleanOutOffice();
    exit( -1 );
    }

  64. Collas out.. by greywire · · Score: 2

    Well this is either real good, or real bad. Maybe both. Collas was big on the linux thing and the consumer-multimedia-box thingy, while the rest of us hardcore Amigans want a computer with a powerfull AmigaOS. Perhaps they decide to lean more towards the computer side and Collas got pissed and left? Maybe AOS 3.5 is a hit. Maybe they just really, really underestimated the Classic Amiga. Maybe they're real scared of IWin and the BoXer and Phase5 and QNX taking all the Amiga's "mindshare" away...

    Or maybe they just fucked up and are about to bankrupt again...

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    1. Re:Collas out.. by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

      Just one nit to pick... the Amiga isn't tightly coupled with NTSC/PAL at all.

      Many of the custom chips in the 'classic' Amigas are built to operate on frequencies derived from NTSC/PAL signals that don't make sense if you are running with a PC style video card. This is true even for things like the Zorro bus timing, sound and floppy disk control.

      Many Amiga users with graphics cards haven't seen an Amiga chipset screenmode in years.

      One of the few niche markets that the Amiga was moderately successful in was video production, where NTSC/PAL video modes make sense. Unfortunately for Amiga, as I point out, NTSC/PAL are going to get phased out in favor of HDTV in the next few years so that will be a dying market.

      Heck, the Draco Amiga clone didn't even have all that hardware.

      And how compatible was it with the typical hardware-hammering software of the 'classic' Amiga period?

      The Amiga does indeed have a few problems with being held back by legacy concerns, but graphics/display isn't one of them.

      Unfortunately for the Amiga, if you are going to use a graphics chipset designed for a x86 PC clone as most of the Amiga video cards do, you lose one of the major differentiators of the Amiga hardware, which was all of the video coprocessors. Also unfortunately for the Amiga, its custom video hardware isn't all that impressive compared to the current state of the art in the x86 PC world.

    2. Re:Collas out.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, of computers are "doomed to failure in the long run", we'd still be using Altairs & 4040 cpu's (or valves) if it didn't. But then no-one has said they will develop the Classic hardware, but they will support it as long as it is feasible. Also, there are several Amiga companies working on PPC systems (although IMHO the early "PowerUP" cards are rather poor), with 68k emulation & porting parts of the OS to PPC.

    3. Re:Collas out.. by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

      I think perhaps the argument with fewer 'maybe's is more likely to be correct.

      The classic Amiga is doomed in the long run by its tight coupling with NTSC/PAL video and custom hardware tied to that legacy. NTSC and PAL are soon going to be dead as they are replaced by HDTV. The Amiga is also aflicted by goofy hardware driven by compromises Commodore made to be 'cheap' that only made sense in the 80's (like the bizare floppy drive hardware), but don't make sense today. And also by the essentially dead (68K, RIP) processor architecture it was tied to.
      A lot of these things could have been overcome if someone had been working continuously on them (as Apple overcame many of the same problems -- proprietary floppy->standard and 68K->PPC). Unfortunately for Amiga, they essentially stood still from about 1993 until recently. Six years is practically three lifetimes in the computer business.

  65. Hey! by Gleef · · Score: 2

    Does this mean tomorrow we're going to find him working for MSN too?

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  66. Re: Hmm. First Amiga Goes Silent... by Squid · · Score: 2

    3.5 ain't even OUT yet. I was kinda hoping they'd release it before the $#!+ hit the fan, so at least we'd get SOMETHING from them before they implode... at this rate, the only actual thing ever done at Amiga Inc. (which isn't even true, they OUTSOURCED it) will probably never be released.

  67. Re:Wake up call. Amiga is DEAD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    In the "glory days" the Amiga totally dominated the home computing, video design and game markets... It was certainly a huge force.

    But that was a long time ago...

    There's still features the Amiga had I miss, and wish there were clean implementations of on Linux:

    Filesystem assigns, datatypes, a graphics subsystem with an easy to use API (X is way to clunky), scrollable "screens" with different resolutions and colour depth visible at the same time (allthough Enlightenment comes close to that one :), Arexx (allthough I hated the language itself, the system was easy to use, and lots of scripts were available so it was seldom I had to resort to writing any).

    And I miss Cygnus Ed.... I've still not found another editor I'm happy with.. Jed is the closest, but I'd still take CED any day. And I miss Asmone etc. too. Simple, elegant and fast - not as heave as DDD, and not nearly as cryptic as running gdb directly.

    Not to mention that I miss programming Amiga E. Now THAT was a nice programming language. Anyone know of a language with similar features? And as clean a syntax? C is a mess... And C++ even worse...

    Sigh. Maybe I'll dig my A3000 out of the closet for nostalgias sake.

  68. For all any of us know..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The GPL got axed by the Lawyers who want to protect the IP of the Amiga.

    (as long as we are throwing about baseless theories)

    Either way, it sounds like the blame game is starting and this is the 1st casulity

  69. Re:The Curse Of the Amiga - TI too by PD · · Score: 1

    The difference between the TI-99/4A is that it was a crappy computer! I know because that was my first machine.

    The basic language that came with the machine was alright, but it lacked any sort of peek or poke command. There was no way to program to the hardware without getting some expensive assembler cartridge. It was also dog slow compared to the competition. The an empty for-next loop iterated about 180 times per second.

    And if you breathed on the cartridge when it was in the slot the machine would crash.

    The "curse" of the TI was simply a bunch of pissed off users yelling "FUCK" because they just lost a lot of work in a crash.

  70. Re:Schmidt appointed new Amiga president by mattdm · · Score: 2
    "Pursue personal interests" is a euphemism if I've ever heard one. They always say that when someone gets the axe.

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  71. Well shave my balls and call me grandma! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can hear it already, the faint sound of the death knell announcing the demise of Amiga's ill-conceived Linux strategy.
    Looks like, by sheer coincidence, someone in the oxygen deprived upper echelons of Gateway's executive ranks has suffered a spontanious mutation and actually grown a brain.

  72. Sounds like the basis of a new game` by spiritual+geek · · Score: 1

    Where In The World is Carmen Sandiago etc was such a hit that Gateway is preparing us for a their new game, Where In The World Will The New Amiga Apear?

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  73. Re:Hardly surprising is it? by Ancipital · · Score: 1

    Hah, they can't even manage the minor eyecandy of 3.5 (the "let's hack some crappy old shareware and call it a new OS release" version).

    Let's just be thankful that no-one asked them to arrange a piss-up in a brewery.

  74. My Lame 2 cents by BadlandZ · · Score: 3
    He left because they have nothing exciting going on, and everyone was looking for something new and amazing from them. He's bailing out before he gets pined as the guy in charge when they fall flat on thier face. :-)

    Gotta admit, there is no basis for this guess, but what basis do you have for Amiga using a Transmeta Super CPU, and becoming the ultimate graphic workstation of the year 2000? People seem to believe that with no evidence, why not just accept they are doing nothing exciting at all?

  75. for $50? by tap · · Score: 1

    In joke for TI99/4a owners....

  76. Re:Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, unless you a) Live in Australia and backwards-engineer it or b) Regard AROS as "the" Amiga OS.

  77. IBM is cool by arielb · · Score: 1

    those IBM G4's don't look like crap to me...

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  78. Re:Let it die. by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    a! I live in Australia and I work on a reverse engineering project. Amiga, open to the community.. open to taking their money.

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  79. Re: Hmm. First Amiga Goes Silent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If that's true John, then I for one would have no problem in pirating it :-(

  80. Gateway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think this scenario has anything to do with Amiga as a machine. It smells more like political upheaval in the Gateway camp. The fact that Collas has sold all his shares in Gateway suggests to me that something sinister is happening at Gateway, the Amiga being nothing more than a unfortunate bystander.

  81. G3? Amigas having G4 in 6 weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, that's $700 for a 400MHz G4 card, due to be shipped on 15th October this year :))))

  82. It's a Conspiracy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently Tom
    Schmidt, senior VP and COO who joined in April from head of an aerospace
    company, has replaced him.

    A conspiracy? Last year Amiga fired Fleecy Moss who took a great deal of
    time to talk with the amiga groups and share infomation. Aug 30th Bill
    McEwen, Amiga evangelist and great supporter of the classic amiga as well
    as amiga groups was told the 31st would be his last day. 1st Sept, Jim
    Collas unexpectedly resigns "to pursue personal interests". Strange that
    the two people who were the spokes people with the community where Jim and
    Bill and this comes in the same week that Amiga have shut off all
    communication with the outside world. Did Tom want Bill to go as he came
    in?

  83. probably off to MS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And tomorrow you will find his name on Bill's list of slaves.

  84. NOT THAT WE CARE. by 1010011010 · · Score: 0

    Amiga needs to shut up and go away until they can announce "we now have out shit together."

    Next week they'll be making julienne fries or something..



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  85. Now I get it! by G-Man · · Score: 3

    All this time I thought they wanted to produce an alternative to Apple products for multimedia content creation. Maybe they just want to be an alternative to Apple in the "corporate soap opera" arena. With things pretty stable in Cupertino, they must see an opening. Of course, they're gonna need to lose a whole lot more money first.

    Maybe they should hire Gil Amelio. He can hire on an original Amiga founder, get dumped, and the other fella can take over as iCEO...

    1. Re:Now I get it! by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

      Maybe they should hire Gil Amelio.

      Hey, Gil is still available I think. :-)

      He can hire on an original Amiga founder, get dumped, and the other fella can take over as iCEO...

      Except of course that Jay Miner is still dead... Who else could they get?

  86. This is becoming a freaking soap opera... by MenTaLguY · · Score: 5

    Last time, Amiga was released from the hospital after a miraculous recovery from total paralysis and amnesia to be reuinted with Jim, her husband. The couple decided to adopt the little orphan Linux. Now, on their first night together after the car accident that separated them, she finds Jim cold and distant...

    [Amiga] What's the matter, Jim? Don't you love me?
    [Jim] No... Amiga... I'm sorry, but you're just not the same woman I fell in love with ... not since the accident...
    [Amiga] It's that hussy Apple, isn't it?! Her and those flashy G4s...
    [Jim] I ... I ...
    [Amiga] ADMIT IT!@#$
    [Jim] I can't lie to you ... your vaporware just can't compare to her firmware ... yes, yes, I'm having an affair with Apple!
    [Amiga] You bastard! GET OUT#(@$&*(@# GET OUT OF MY HOUSE(#@*($#@
    * Jim slams the door
    * Amiga sobs

    Tune in tomorrow for another episode of As The Workbench Turns...


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  87. Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As a person who owned an A500 and a A2000 back when it kicked the PC's ass, who learned C on it and who got good at 68k asm, its sad to see this lingering, dragging death. Amiga was built around very capable hardware and a lean and mean kernel. Its UI (intuition) was pretty sweet as well. I remembered compiling demoes using aztech c and cygnus editor, shuffling floppies in and out on that A500. Remember I was a destitute african student. let it go. the best we can hope for is to open up all the source code so that emulator folks can really implement a full machine. just my opinion, but its really degrading seeing such a soap opera continue.

  88. Amiga getting attn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This all could be to get everyone wound up about Amiga. Much like Linus' company, they may just want to give people the urge to find out what they are all about, so they need things to keep them going. Either that or they really don't know whats what and randomly scratching out ideas on their pad of paper. I don't think they have much paper space left though.

  89. Dead CEO... Re:Now I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey if the CEO is dead, this might be the NeXT idea in the soap opera of the Amiga.

    If dead people can hawk Apples, why not Amiga's?

    (and happy anniversity to the start of WWII...that is, like now, ya know.)

  90. Re:Wake up call. Amiga is DEAD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What made the original Amiga different was the custom system/video chipset. The proprietary silicon integrated with the OS and 32 bit CPU made it something really special compared to the clunky 8088 and 8086 DOS systems the rest of the world was running.

    The advances in video and graphics and bus architecture now make such a proprietary solution almost impossible. No one company could possibly compete using its own proprietary silicon. No one has thata much money!

    I believe the current direction Amiga is headed in is pretty good: compete by offering the best object technology possible. A lot of companies talk a good game of OO, but few have really delivered on the hype. Maybe Amiga can deliver an elegant real object technology, and that would be victory enough.

  91. Re:Wake up call. Amiga is DEAD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I won't let the Amiga Go. Why, becouse even the thought of having an alternitive gives me a slight glimmer of hope. I HATE IBM's, and Macs are even worse. I loved the cool feature the Amiga had, like never running out of interrupts (or even having to assign them). So I wait for a better machine. I don't care what name is on it, who makes it, it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't have the short comming of these poor excuse of machines I'm forced to use now.... Just becouse the president resigned, doesn't make me loose faith. I still hope and wish for something better to come out, some day..... (Forever being stuck with this ibm crap is a living hell)

  92. Jack Tramial's revenge. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the guy whose probably still laughing. What ever happened to him? Remember te story about him and his sons beating up some IBM guys at a Comdex show in order to get more floor space?

  93. This is a publicity stunt by redpants · · Score: 1

    The secret mysterious processor, the sudden silence, and now the departure of their president.

    When an Amiga is released, everyone will be so amazed, that we'll have to buy one just to see that it is real.

  94. phrase by delmoi · · Score: 1

    "I think it was quite a wise decision personally as linux has more developer mindshare (to coin a phrase), "

    you did not coin that phrase. Someone else did, you are just using it. don't be exspressionaly illiterate! (to coin a phrase)
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  95. The real reason Collas left... by venkman · · Score: 1

    After cashing out his Gateway stock ( which is selling at about $95 now, down thanks to him) why would he need to work on the "USS Vapourware" as someone else put it.

    BTW, the math gives him something like $11.2 million from that stock deal.

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  96. The Real Story by jd · · Score: 3
    Jim Collias is to replace David Duchovny in the X-Files. The show will be re-launched as the A-Files, with Skinner being played by Mr. T.

    In other news, Sapphire and Steel (the British version of the X-Files) will also be returning, this time as the new joint presidents of the Amiga. Apparently, mixing the old and the new was causing a timebreak, and will require the sacrifice of AmigaOS and two christmas party hats.

    The new Amiga was last seen in the Bahamas, in the company of Gillian Anderson. Rumours of an electronic affair were denied, but reports suggest Gillian may be getting a surgically-implanted network port for her left arm.

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  97. Hardly surprising is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, it was gonna happen sooner or later (and preferably near the time of the OS 3.5 release). It's clear that everything AInc have been saying for the past few years is just hype so that the remaining Amiga users left will still buy what's left, in the faint hope that something will emerge. Amiga has been dying since 1992 with the release of 3.0, everything since then has been either minor bugfixes (3.1), or additional eye candy (3.5). Having been an Amiga user myself for 7-8 years, I know how people can get entagled in the whole Amiga world, but you gotta step back and get into the real world people. Hopefully this might shut up the fanatics who are *still* saying AmigaNG is gonna be revolutionary and gonna take over the world in, like, 5 days - that's just plain ignorance. Lets just hope that the partnership they had with QNX hasn't plauged QNX with the Amiga virus, cos I would like to see what they can come up with :o)

  98. Schmidt appointed new Amiga president by rrogers · · Score: 2

    Here's the news just 1 hour later from ZDNN:

    Amiga said Wednesday it had appointed Tom Schmidt as it's new president to replace Jim Collas who unexpectedly resigned from the company. A spokesman for the company said Collas had resigned to persue personal interests.