My point is this: Instead of taking a US map and superimposing it on Europe, take a map of France, and superimpose it anywhere on the US. Then compare the French railroad network to the US network at that location, and see how many US travellers take a comparable train trip to Paris-Lyon.
it would take only a small fraction of inhabited planets making radio beacons to notice them.
We don't have a beacon set up. I can see where other civilization don't have one either. An undirected beacon would take an enormous amount of energy to even be detectable at a few light years distance. And keep in mind that nearly all of the "billions and billions of planets" are really far away. Only a very tiny percentage is as close as a 1000 light years, which could even make a fairly strong beacon beyond our means to detect it.
How plausible is it to you that all civilized species end up with a life expectancy close to that of a human and that they aren't able to extend it at all, or to bring along robots to help build new things when they get there?
I don't think anybody has good estimates, but you don't need extreme values to get the expected spread factor below 1.
Feel free to collect your own data. The Berkeley group, led by Richard Muller, were skeptical of the data, so they started from scratch, using the raw data and their own methodologies. In the end, they found their own results were completely consistent with the "alarmists" results.
But if you feel that they are still wrong, then it can be done again.
But as I discussed in my comment, we don't see any radio waves
Which means very little. Go to the nearest star and aim a large receiving dish at Earth. You won't hear a thing, unless by accident someone on Earth points a focused transmitter at you, at the exact right time.
That means that if one is going only 1 percent of light speed (which does seem doable given what we know of the laws of physics)
At that speed it may take several thousand years to reach another habitable planet. With a million things that could wrong, I can see people voting against the idea of embarking on such a crazy adventure. And even assuming a bunch of people make it to another planet, they have to survive there, and rebuild another civilization capable of doing it again. If the failure rate is too high, the spread will stop.
I didn't say that. I didn't even mention speech. I said freedoms are limited, and the freedom of speech is no exception. There are limits to the things you can say.
The Fermi paradox is easily solved by noticing that the universe is very big, and very empty, and that the limits of technology do not allow sufficiently easy travel.
Most likely that will not be the interpretation of the court. The state can compel you to do various acts you would rather not do, including paying taxes or performing military service or jury duty. These do not fall under 13th Amendment terms. On top of that, Apple is a corporation, not a person, and would be compensated for the effort.
Where I live, there are two last-mile networks: cable and phone. Most of the phone copper is owned by a single company, but that's not a problem because other parties can lease the capacity. The government enforces that they offer the lease, and that they charge a reasonable price. As a result, there are a dozen different providers that I can choose from, and there's a healthy competition between cable and phone to claim the highest bandwidth.
SFC only advises and warns, just like the FSF could do. Ultimately it's the copyright holders that can sue in court, and then it will be a judge or jury that decide the matter.
And if the government then says that toenail clippings are unhygienic and can cause diseases, and makes trading them illegal, then it's not going to be a very popular form of money.
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Several moons, such as Europa and Enceladus, have enough liquid water and energy to possibly support native life forms.
Too far, and simply not worth the trouble.
"outer space is too harsh an environment for humans" FTFY.
And so is taking a stroll on the Sun. Throw enough money at it, and easy peasey.
Just go at night...
My point is this: Instead of taking a US map and superimposing it on Europe, take a map of France, and superimpose it anywhere on the US. Then compare the French railroad network to the US network at that location, and see how many US travellers take a comparable train trip to Paris-Lyon.
It is better to strive and to struggle than to just give up.
If you're going to fail anyway, it's better to enjoy than to struggle.
it would take only a small fraction of inhabited planets making radio beacons to notice them.
We don't have a beacon set up. I can see where other civilization don't have one either. An undirected beacon would take an enormous amount of energy to even be detectable at a few light years distance. And keep in mind that nearly all of the "billions and billions of planets" are really far away. Only a very tiny percentage is as close as a 1000 light years, which could even make a fairly strong beacon beyond our means to detect it.
How plausible is it to you that all civilized species end up with a life expectancy close to that of a human and that they aren't able to extend it at all, or to bring along robots to help build new things when they get there?
I don't think anybody has good estimates, but you don't need extreme values to get the expected spread factor below 1.
So it is like loving a sandwich after all.
Feel free to collect your own data. The Berkeley group, led by Richard Muller, were skeptical of the data, so they started from scratch, using the raw data and their own methodologies. In the end, they found their own results were completely consistent with the "alarmists" results. But if you feel that they are still wrong, then it can be done again.
We've had several dozens civilizations here on Earth that all died out. Ours is past the peak as well.
But as I discussed in my comment, we don't see any radio waves
Which means very little. Go to the nearest star and aim a large receiving dish at Earth. You won't hear a thing, unless by accident someone on Earth points a focused transmitter at you, at the exact right time.
That means that if one is going only 1 percent of light speed (which does seem doable given what we know of the laws of physics)
At that speed it may take several thousand years to reach another habitable planet. With a million things that could wrong, I can see people voting against the idea of embarking on such a crazy adventure. And even assuming a bunch of people make it to another planet, they have to survive there, and rebuild another civilization capable of doing it again. If the failure rate is too high, the spread will stop.
In Christianity, one does not "love" God like one "loves" a person -- or a dog -- or a sandwich. It's not the same thing.
So you've just explained (or rather, given a few examples) of what it is not. Can you now explain what it is ?
So you don't have freedom of speech?
I didn't say that. I didn't even mention speech. I said freedoms are limited, and the freedom of speech is no exception. There are limits to the things you can say.
The Fermi paradox is easily solved by noticing that the universe is very big, and very empty, and that the limits of technology do not allow sufficiently easy travel.
Most likely that will not be the interpretation of the court. The state can compel you to do various acts you would rather not do, including paying taxes or performing military service or jury duty. These do not fall under 13th Amendment terms. On top of that, Apple is a corporation, not a person, and would be compensated for the effort.
it's simply a mathematical impossibility that there are no other planets in the universe capable of supporting some kind of life.
These guys actually did the math, and they disagree. They could be wrong, of course, but you could be wronger.
Keep in mind that there is another party.
The government shouldn't build the infrastructure. It just needs to play referee, and make sure all the private parties are playing nice.
Where I live, there are two last-mile networks: cable and phone. Most of the phone copper is owned by a single company, but that's not a problem because other parties can lease the capacity. The government enforces that they offer the lease, and that they charge a reasonable price. As a result, there are a dozen different providers that I can choose from, and there's a healthy competition between cable and phone to claim the highest bandwidth.
This creates huge problems for people who think France is big. Who in Europe would take a train from Madrid to Tel Aviv ?
Nobody. But plenty of people take the train from Paris to Lyon, or from Brussels to Antwerp.
SFC only advises and warns, just like the FSF could do. Ultimately it's the copyright holders that can sue in court, and then it will be a judge or jury that decide the matter.
There's no such thing as unlimited freedom. You have to pick the freedoms you care about, and then forbid those that would violate it.
And if the government then says that toenail clippings are unhygienic and can cause diseases, and makes trading them illegal, then it's not going to be a very popular form of money.
You're not bothered that a computer scientist is incapable of turning on his own computer?
Not necessarily. Maybe they only have experience working on a Turing Machine.
I don't, but I live in a city, and my house would be quickly overrun by others who didn't think of storing water and food, so what's the point ?
If Apple develops software to crack the encryption you put everyone at risk and you also damage Apple's ability top do business
Then you'll be relieved to hear that this is not what this case is about.