they are trying to compel Apple... to do something they don't want to do
It is pretty common that people or businesses are being subpoenaed or ordered by the court to cooperate in a criminal investigation, and little care is given for your interest in the matter.
Welcome to the land of the free, where you're completely free to do exactly what the government tells you to.
Drama much ? Apple is asked to cooperate in a criminal investigation, at little cost to them (just a few hours of labor), and no cost to their other lawful customers.
If they do it once they will be asked to do it again. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
But then they would have a chance to verify and appeal the court order every time, and thus alleviating your concerns that it would happen "regardless of the legality of doing so".
This would be analogous to the police demanding the manufacturer of the locks on the searched house break the locks on this house and in effect break every lock they've every sold and will sell in the future.
Not all all. Apple can make firmware so that it only works on this particular phone, and they can modify future phones to prevent this method altogether.
They just need Apple to install the new software. Where's the "disassembly" and "confiscation of all contents", or telling the authorities how to disassemble it ?
Your comparison would only make sense if the warrant included disassembly and confiscation of all contents of the house and the structure of the house itself, including coercing the builder of the house to tell the authorities how to disassemble it.
Not at all. In this case, the FBI wants to try to crack the phone by repeatedly entering passcodes without the phone bricking itself. No disassembly, confiscation or disassembly is required.
If you found my computer encrypted and I said "no, I won't decrypt it for you", do you think you could just get a warrant and have the people who built the encryption just decode it?
I don't know I could "just" get a warrant, but if a proper warrant is obtained, I expect people to cooperate when they can.
The police is more than capable of kicking in doors themselves, and routinely do so without protest. Police can also hire a locksmith to open a door for them, and they routinely do that as well.
And I can tell you from personal experience that a master's degree in CS is very useful. Of course, not every detail is going to be equally valuable to all students. It all depends on the direction you're taking afterwards.
ISIS is sending thousands of fighters into the West, mixed in with the rapefugees. The risk is very real, and people are working hard to make the risk bigger, unlike for instance, the chance of being eaten by a shark, or being killed in traffic.
That doesn't make my statement any less wrong, though, and it just muddies the waters by inviting people to say that Obama is a decent president, and then the discussion shifts to arguing about Obama. The point is, if the republicans could find a single decent candidate, then they'd easily win the elections, so what is stopping them ?
Winning the election doesn't say much about whether some candidate is decent and smart, or just some clown in a suit. Voting is done on very superficial reasons, often including nutty religious morals.
Usually, after a few years of owning a phone, the battery won't charge as well, the case is damaged, the screen is scratched or cracked, the CPU is slow, the memory is lacking, the OS is no longer supported, and the peripherals don't support the latest standards. In other words: it's time for a delicious treat that is a brand new phone.
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they are trying to compel Apple ... to do something they don't want to do
It is pretty common that people or businesses are being subpoenaed or ordered by the court to cooperate in a criminal investigation, and little care is given for your interest in the matter.
Welcome to the land of the free, where you're completely free to do exactly what the government tells you to.
Drama much ? Apple is asked to cooperate in a criminal investigation, at little cost to them (just a few hours of labor), and no cost to their other lawful customers.
Sounds good, but when you put CS in the curriculum something else has to go out.
If they do it once they will be asked to do it again. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
But then they would have a chance to verify and appeal the court order every time, and thus alleviating your concerns that it would happen "regardless of the legality of doing so".
This would be analogous to the police demanding the manufacturer of the locks on the searched house break the locks on this house and in effect break every lock they've every sold and will sell in the future.
Not all all. Apple can make firmware so that it only works on this particular phone, and they can modify future phones to prevent this method altogether.
Which will be used repeatedly in the future on other phones in other cases regardless of the legality of doing so.
It would be a simple matter for Apple to write the patched OS so that it only works on one particular phone.
They just need Apple to install the new software. Where's the "disassembly" and "confiscation of all contents", or telling the authorities how to disassemble it ?
But it doesn't mean the one being searched needs to assist.
That's not what's being asked here. Apple is not the suspect. Do try to focus on the actual point.
Your comparison would only make sense if the warrant included disassembly and confiscation of all contents of the house and the structure of the house itself, including coercing the builder of the house to tell the authorities how to disassemble it.
Not at all. In this case, the FBI wants to try to crack the phone by repeatedly entering passcodes without the phone bricking itself. No disassembly, confiscation or disassembly is required.
If you found my computer encrypted and I said "no, I won't decrypt it for you", do you think you could just get a warrant and have the people who built the encryption just decode it?
I don't know I could "just" get a warrant, but if a proper warrant is obtained, I expect people to cooperate when they can.
The police is more than capable of kicking in doors themselves, and routinely do so without protest. Police can also hire a locksmith to open a door for them, and they routinely do that as well.
What they are being asked to do is write a custom OS for free.
So the problem is they have to spend a few hours, and they're not getting compensation ? It's all about money ?
Obama was a very recent candidate, and he won because his opponents all came from a circus.
So I take it you're also against home and property searches by the police carrying a signed warrant ?
Simple solution: FBI agent hands phone to Apple and shows warrant. Apple installs special firmware on this phone. Apple returns phone to FBI agent.
Maybe it should only be a required course for boys ?
And I can tell you from personal experience that a master's degree in CS is very useful. Of course, not every detail is going to be equally valuable to all students. It all depends on the direction you're taking afterwards.
Math has gone through several major changes too.
ISIS is sending thousands of fighters into the West, mixed in with the rapefugees. The risk is very real, and people are working hard to make the risk bigger, unlike for instance, the chance of being eaten by a shark, or being killed in traffic.
That doesn't make my statement any less wrong, though, and it just muddies the waters by inviting people to say that Obama is a decent president, and then the discussion shifts to arguing about Obama. The point is, if the republicans could find a single decent candidate, then they'd easily win the elections, so what is stopping them ?
Winning the election doesn't say much about whether some candidate is decent and smart, or just some clown in a suit. Voting is done on very superficial reasons, often including nutty religious morals.
So that you've got a 1 in 1.00000000001 billion chance of dying due to terrorism instead of just 1 in 1 billion?
When you can guarantee that number won't increase to 1 in 100 over the next 20 years, you can have your privacy back.
I don't care if they want to fuck compromise, but at least they need to have some brains.
True, but on the republican side the problem has been around much longer, at least starting with GWB.
I still wonder how it is possible that the republicans can't come up with a single decent candidate. And this is not the first time that happened.
Usually, after a few years of owning a phone, the battery won't charge as well, the case is damaged, the screen is scratched or cracked, the CPU is slow, the memory is lacking, the OS is no longer supported, and the peripherals don't support the latest standards. In other words: it's time for a delicious treat that is a brand new phone.