Killistrator is not competition of Illustrator. Why? Because Adobe does not compete in the Unix/non-MS/non-Apple marketplace. While the KIll. program might have been 'inspired' by Adobe's work, it is not a competitor. Not until AIllustrator is available on *BSD, Linux, Herd, or whatever.
But yeah, big whoop. Change the name, life goes on. Grant the copyright of the code/name to FSF and let them pay the 20 quatloos.
I wonder if (for whatever reason) Adobe has something against Unix in general. Perhaps they just don't have the knowhow. This would partially explain their reluctance to have something for the Mac.
I wouldn't fret over the Mac. It took some time for fat binaries to become available. This will be the same thing. (Of course, WRT Adobe products and the new Mac OS, there is a rather large chicken-egg problem)
There was an Ask Slashdot yesterday wherein someone asked how apt-get compares to urpmi. One thing missing in the discussion was the serious number of debian sites and repositories. Why don't these exist for RH? Something like this would make the RPM based packages much better.
Or perhaps they always were. I finally switched to Progeny the other day, being totally fed up with RPMs.
Hey, I'm a flag-waving, apple-pie-eating, baseball playing, gun-toting American just as much as the next guy, but quite frankly, what the US does vis-a-vis Micro-Soft amounts to precisely dick. Let's face it, as a country/government, we are going to roll over and take it in the ass from Bill and friends. It's just the way things are.
Our saviours come in the form of China, India, France, and Brazil (among others). They get a leg up on development (look at all that tasty source!) without playing BS games or paying BS licensing fees.
And yes, right now, in 2001, the US is the economic 800 lb. gorilla. But by the time my son (five weeks old this past Tuesday) is old enough to vote, you better belive various brown/slant-eyed/'furrin' speakin' communists are going to be showing their shit. And quite frankly, it doesn't involve paying Bill and the fam squat.
Let's say that tomorrow, China alone (ignoring India, which would make this more pathetic) had as many PCs per capita that the US did. Furthermore, let's imagine that most of them ran some Open Source OS. All of the sudden, Micro-Soft's 92% domination of the market shrank to what, about %20?? What happened to the monopoly power?
Quite frankly, if either Linux or Micro-Soft wants to get ahead, it's time to have easy-peazy Mandarin support. Or give the Chinese a few years. They'll take care of it themselves. A billion people with a little motivation and direction can really mess things up (or change them for the better depending on your POV).
(Better stop. This is starting to sound like that Chinese or communist tide sketch from Python)
The courts should be non-biased. Barring that, they should decide in favor of the citizenry. Citizens are those who can vote. Corporations can't. The point of the US Govt was to defend the underdog (colonists in the original instance) against people for whom the odds were severely stacked (British Kings). Being in favor of either the American public and Emmanuel Goldstein is logically consistent, not only with each other, but also with tradition.
(BTW, I'm sure the Brits will have a different interpretation of the Colonial Uprising, or whatever they call it;)
You can/should be able to replace the WinME box with a Linux box (but the initial setup may require a Win box. My DSL was setup with NT4.0, but now runs on Linux).
A linux box can be made to read PC disks (Dos, Win3.1->NT), Amiga disks, Mac disks, and a bunch of others.
There is zero problem accessing files over the network amongst these systems. Depending on the mix, you can use NFS, SMB, AppleTalk, ftp, etc.
Finding your NIC is the first step. In the past, I would have reccommended linuxnewbie.org to ask that sort of question. Not sure where these days.
BTW, treat your father like the head of a major corporation: do what you have to do. Don't tell him you switched computers on him. Chances are he'll never notice. I take it you are still in school (be it elementary or university. It doesn't matter) and now have some time off for the summer. Presumably your father works. That gives you plenty of time to fiddle with things. Eventually, you'll get it right, and just leave it on.
I'm not sure why anyone (other than Micro-Soft) would think this would be a sign of forking. Presumably, all will wind up in the kernel, and all will be either compiled in or available as modules for all the major distros. "mount -t auto yadda yadda yadda" should take care of this.
This actually makes Linux stronger, as it provides choice. Got an old system: use ext3. Want speed: use ReiserFS. Want (I don't know. Sorry): use JFS, XFS, fooFS.
This isn't the either/or situation of FAT, FAT-32, and NTFS (not sure if XP will add another FS standard). All versions of the GNU/Linux OS should have the ability to read all of the filesystems.
You do, however, have a point that there is some overlap. I am not a part of any of the devel teams (or any devel teams for that matter) so it would seem, at least from a lay perspective, that having (just for example) Hans, the ext3 group, etc working on and submitting patches for JFS would result in the strongest solution. But there is nothing to preclude this from happening (except, perhaps, for Hans' ego and financial plans. And I don't know how open IBM is. And...)
Anyway, this is fairly early in the development, and the choice of filesystems is hardly as major a concern as the Gnome/KDE schism WRT forking possibilities.
Relying on dmesg to configure a kernel (like the person you replied to) is kinda like relying on the author/editor blurb at the top of a Slashdot story to give an accurate impression of the news (like the person you replied to).
So let's simply disallow versions, author information, and "good status"
messages, ok? For stuff that is useful for debugging (but that the driver
doesn't _know_ is needed), use KERN_DEBUG, so that it doesn't actually end
up printed on the screen normally.
So, he's just talking about copyright notices and that sort of garbage. He's actually keeping the good stuff in. So, this makes sense. Must be a slow newsday, what with no Micro-Soft FUD to report.
Then RH and the rest can choose that (and lpp) in their default kernels. The rest of us can let 'er rip.
I always wanted more messages. That way when rebooting, I looked extra '1ee7. The only thing more frightening to the employees is when they see a kernel compile running. Or a BSOD (a true NT type one with all of that debugger information or whatever it is. Not the wimpy Win9x one)
Was the defacement of city streets with paint that "didn't clean up as well as we thought" intended, or just a nice side effect? Would you reccommend this path to others? Do you know where I can buy some highway paint? I hear that stuff is really tough to clean.
How does Microsoft's current campaign against Open Source in general (and the GPL and Linux) affect thinking and plans in the marketing arm? Is this something to worry about, or just Microsoft redirection? Do you have any plans to get anyone to attend the discussion hosted by O'Reilly? What is the best way for the average person (essentially, non-CIO's) to influence platform shifts?
It depends on whether you buy a plain one, or the 'music' CD-R that has been specially optimized for recording music and playback in traditional CD players (read as: we sent a kickback to RIAA members)
Funny. My plain-jane Maxells work just fine without the extra $.20 tax.
I don't have the linkage, but I think Cringely or someone like that mentioned that it was/is probably a feint or slight of hand to get people to avoid the real issues. I'm not sure that this ISN'T a real issue, but if it is lesser than some other issue that Microsoft is interested in, than their tactic to draw our attention elsewhere has worked marvelously.
That's all fine and well, but it is not an accurate portrayl of Microsoft's position. They are not limiting their criticism of freeopengpl software to university or government developed software; they limit it to ALL software developed under a freeopengpl license, be it from RH, RMS, me, or universities and governments. Otherwise interesting.
The other problem with this viewpoint is that I don't see Microsoft arguing that Merck, et al. should give AIDS drugs (I cringe to use this example, but it is SO appropriate) away for free. Or argue against the private holding of the human genome mappings.
It would be nice (and perhaps even rational) to argue that government/university funded research should be public domain. It probably should. But Microsoft is only interested in this limitation as it pertains to software and algorithms, and would like to extend it to you, me, and IBM.
(Yes, I know the Bill and Melinda Foundation gave a bunch of money to give AIDS drugs to various African countries. But wouldn't that money have been better spent lobbying Congress to change laws such that government funded research is in the public domain? Or to throw a swanky yacht party for the heads of Merck, Pfizer, etc. and convince them to cut their margins to 0?)
Inherent in the same manner that it is inherent that humans breath air. We didn't start breathing air the day that someone wrote it in a biology text. It is the way humans are constructed.
As written, the Constitution of the US takes the position that the rights that it enumerates exist in man. Anything that denies these is as wrong as saying that the moon is made of green cheese.
You are absolutely right. And this is what the US Civil War was over. The war between the states was the inevitable conclusion of the Constitution, illegally passed by the Congress formed to rewrite the Articles of Confederation (is that the right term? It's been 10 years+ since US History).
Originally, the citizen (not person, BTW) was sovereign, followed by states, with the federal government a distant third.
Now we've flip-flopped, and, like you said, the State of Delaware doesn't really matter. (Or MD, OK, etc)
Actually, the US Constitution is merely an enumeration of rights that the founders thought resided in all men by nature.
While I agree with this viewpoint (mostly) I also think that it has and does give rise to some rather foolish notions. (Go back and read about Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt for more information)
Anyway, I'm just saying that the Constitution doesn't give us rights; it enumerates inherent rights.
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Killistrator is not competition of Illustrator. Why? Because Adobe does not compete in the Unix/non-MS/non-Apple marketplace. While the KIll. program might have been 'inspired' by Adobe's work, it is not a competitor. Not until AIllustrator is available on *BSD, Linux, Herd, or whatever.
But yeah, big whoop. Change the name, life goes on. Grant the copyright of the code/name to FSF and let them pay the 20 quatloos.
I wonder if (for whatever reason) Adobe has something against Unix in general. Perhaps they just don't have the knowhow. This would partially explain their reluctance to have something for the Mac.
I wouldn't fret over the Mac. It took some time for fat binaries to become available. This will be the same thing. (Of course, WRT Adobe products and the new Mac OS, there is a rather large chicken-egg problem)
There was an Ask Slashdot yesterday wherein someone asked how apt-get compares to urpmi. One thing missing in the discussion was the serious number of debian sites and repositories. Why don't these exist for RH? Something like this would make the RPM based packages much better.
Or perhaps they always were. I finally switched to Progeny the other day, being totally fed up with RPMs.
Hey, I'm a flag-waving, apple-pie-eating, baseball playing, gun-toting American just as much as the next guy, but quite frankly, what the US does vis-a-vis Micro-Soft amounts to precisely dick. Let's face it, as a country/government, we are going to roll over and take it in the ass from Bill and friends. It's just the way things are.
Our saviours come in the form of China, India, France, and Brazil (among others). They get a leg up on development (look at all that tasty source!) without playing BS games or paying BS licensing fees.
And yes, right now, in 2001, the US is the economic 800 lb. gorilla. But by the time my son (five weeks old this past Tuesday) is old enough to vote, you better belive various brown/slant-eyed/'furrin' speakin' communists are going to be showing their shit. And quite frankly, it doesn't involve paying Bill and the fam squat.
Let's say that tomorrow, China alone (ignoring India, which would make this more pathetic) had as many PCs per capita that the US did. Furthermore, let's imagine that most of them ran some Open Source OS. All of the sudden, Micro-Soft's 92% domination of the market shrank to what, about %20?? What happened to the monopoly power?
Quite frankly, if either Linux or Micro-Soft wants to get ahead, it's time to have easy-peazy Mandarin support. Or give the Chinese a few years. They'll take care of it themselves. A billion people with a little motivation and direction can really mess things up (or change them for the better depending on your POV).
(Better stop. This is starting to sound like that Chinese or communist tide sketch from Python)
Okay, time to go home. Took me three reads to get that one. Wish I had thought of it.
+1 Funny
The courts should be non-biased. Barring that, they should decide in favor of the citizenry. Citizens are those who can vote. Corporations can't. The point of the US Govt was to defend the underdog (colonists in the original instance) against people for whom the odds were severely stacked (British Kings). Being in favor of either the American public and Emmanuel Goldstein is logically consistent, not only with each other, but also with tradition.
(BTW, I'm sure the Brits will have a different interpretation of the Colonial Uprising, or whatever they call it;)
You can/should be able to replace the WinME box with a Linux box (but the initial setup may require a Win box. My DSL was setup with NT4.0, but now runs on Linux).
A linux box can be made to read PC disks (Dos, Win3.1->NT), Amiga disks, Mac disks, and a bunch of others.
There is zero problem accessing files over the network amongst these systems. Depending on the mix, you can use NFS, SMB, AppleTalk, ftp, etc.
Finding your NIC is the first step. In the past, I would have reccommended linuxnewbie.org to ask that sort of question. Not sure where these days.
BTW, treat your father like the head of a major corporation: do what you have to do. Don't tell him you switched computers on him. Chances are he'll never notice. I take it you are still in school (be it elementary or university. It doesn't matter) and now have some time off for the summer. Presumably your father works. That gives you plenty of time to fiddle with things. Eventually, you'll get it right, and just leave it on.
I'm not sure why anyone (other than Micro-Soft) would think this would be a sign of forking. Presumably, all will wind up in the kernel, and all will be either compiled in or available as modules for all the major distros. "mount -t auto yadda yadda yadda" should take care of this.
This actually makes Linux stronger, as it provides choice. Got an old system: use ext3. Want speed: use ReiserFS. Want (I don't know. Sorry): use JFS, XFS, fooFS.
This isn't the either/or situation of FAT, FAT-32, and NTFS (not sure if XP will add another FS standard). All versions of the GNU/Linux OS should have the ability to read all of the filesystems.
You do, however, have a point that there is some overlap. I am not a part of any of the devel teams (or any devel teams for that matter) so it would seem, at least from a lay perspective, that having (just for example) Hans, the ext3 group, etc working on and submitting patches for JFS would result in the strongest solution. But there is nothing to preclude this from happening (except, perhaps, for Hans' ego and financial plans. And I don't know how open IBM is. And...)
Anyway, this is fairly early in the development, and the choice of filesystems is hardly as major a concern as the Gnome/KDE schism WRT forking possibilities.
AFAIK (which ain't much), ext3 has this as a design consideration, or at least as part of the implementation.
I was tempted to wait, but got impatient and used ReiserFS. Perhaps when I upgrade the 20GB drive in there, I'll switch.
Relying on dmesg to configure a kernel (like the person you replied to) is kinda like relying on the author/editor blurb at the top of a Slashdot story to give an accurate impression of the news (like the person you replied to).
So, he's just talking about copyright notices and that sort of garbage. He's actually keeping the good stuff in. So, this makes sense. Must be a slow newsday, what with no Micro-Soft FUD to report.
CONFIG_SUPPRESS_VERBOSE_INIT
????
Then RH and the rest can choose that (and lpp) in their default kernels. The rest of us can let 'er rip.
I always wanted more messages. That way when rebooting, I looked extra '1ee7. The only thing more frightening to the employees is when they see a kernel compile running. Or a BSOD (a true NT type one with all of that debugger information or whatever it is. Not the wimpy Win9x one)
Who gets Xbox, and the hardware (mice, keyboards, game controllers, etc)?
Which of the two companies gets:
Xbox
WinCE
WinXP
So, how stoked are you guys that you frightened VA out of the hardware market? Did you beat up nerds in high school?
Patent that algorithm!
Was the defacement of city streets with paint that "didn't clean up as well as we thought" intended, or just a nice side effect? Would you reccommend this path to others? Do you know where I can buy some highway paint? I hear that stuff is really tough to clean.
How does Microsoft's current campaign against Open Source in general (and the GPL and Linux) affect thinking and plans in the marketing arm? Is this something to worry about, or just Microsoft redirection? Do you have any plans to get anyone to attend the discussion hosted by O'Reilly? What is the best way for the average person (essentially, non-CIO's) to influence platform shifts?
And you are bound to get burned.
Somebody mod this post up, as he provides the linkage I was too lazy to find.
>>(the price of a blank CD is what now?)
It depends on whether you buy a plain one, or the 'music' CD-R that has been specially optimized for recording music and playback in traditional CD players (read as: we sent a kickback to RIAA members)
Funny. My plain-jane Maxells work just fine without the extra $.20 tax.
I don't have the linkage, but I think Cringely or someone like that mentioned that it was/is probably a feint or slight of hand to get people to avoid the real issues. I'm not sure that this ISN'T a real issue, but if it is lesser than some other issue that Microsoft is interested in, than their tactic to draw our attention elsewhere has worked marvelously.
That's all fine and well, but it is not an accurate portrayl of Microsoft's position. They are not limiting their criticism of freeopengpl software to university or government developed software; they limit it to ALL software developed under a freeopengpl license, be it from RH, RMS, me, or universities and governments. Otherwise interesting.
The other problem with this viewpoint is that I don't see Microsoft arguing that Merck, et al. should give AIDS drugs (I cringe to use this example, but it is SO appropriate) away for free. Or argue against the private holding of the human genome mappings.
It would be nice (and perhaps even rational) to argue that government/university funded research should be public domain. It probably should. But Microsoft is only interested in this limitation as it pertains to software and algorithms, and would like to extend it to you, me, and IBM.
(Yes, I know the Bill and Melinda Foundation gave a bunch of money to give AIDS drugs to various African countries. But wouldn't that money have been better spent lobbying Congress to change laws such that government funded research is in the public domain? Or to throw a swanky yacht party for the heads of Merck, Pfizer, etc. and convince them to cut their margins to 0?)
Inherent in the same manner that it is inherent that humans breath air. We didn't start breathing air the day that someone wrote it in a biology text. It is the way humans are constructed.
As written, the Constitution of the US takes the position that the rights that it enumerates exist in man. Anything that denies these is as wrong as saying that the moon is made of green cheese.
You are absolutely right. And this is what the US Civil War was over. The war between the states was the inevitable conclusion of the Constitution, illegally passed by the Congress formed to rewrite the Articles of Confederation (is that the right term? It's been 10 years+ since US History).
Originally, the citizen (not person, BTW) was sovereign, followed by states, with the federal government a distant third.
Now we've flip-flopped, and, like you said, the State of Delaware doesn't really matter. (Or MD, OK, etc)
Actually, the US Constitution is merely an enumeration of rights that the founders thought resided in all men by nature.
While I agree with this viewpoint (mostly) I also think that it has and does give rise to some rather foolish notions. (Go back and read about Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt for more information)
Anyway, I'm just saying that the Constitution doesn't give us rights; it enumerates inherent rights.