openpic doesn't need cpu support, so it would be possible to run the K6 in SMP mode, but there's no boards.
Perhaps if slashdot readers emailed Via and Acer Labs this might change.
(k6-3 with it's integrated L2 cache would be a great SMP chip).
Any good mail clients for Linux
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What I need from a mail client:
Graphical interface. (No Pine!)
whoa there! what have you got against pine?
I used netscape for email ever since it started shipping with an email client. (ns3 i think), so for about 3 years. Then last year i got sick of NS4's bloatedness and switched to pine.#
pine is really cool. even better, it's very easy and intuitive to use. there's context help on available commands for every different screen, with extended online. and it's powerful so managing mail is dead easy.
configuration is done via a menu (again with context and online help), no messing with rc files if you don't want it.
if you run in it in an xterm it's graphical - you can click on commands, no typing!
and you can telnet into your machine and run the same email programme as in your Xsessions!
and it's a hell of a lot faster than any X programme ever could be!! and it doesn't crash!!
so what's wrong with pine???
can't see comments - thresholds bug?
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i don't see any comments.
it says: 17 comments below your current threshold, yet i have my threshold set to -1???
they weren't British Army, they were ex-British Army. First world war veterans who had nothing else to do, so they were packed off to Ireland to keep the 'unruly' irish under control.
unfortunately they were ill-disciplined and badly led, and were prone to killing peoplle, burning down houses and the like, for no good reason other than that they felt like it.
this just added to the ill-will felt by the irish towards the british, and solidified the will of the people to get the British out.
wasn't soon after that the cowardly De Valera sent Mick and Arthur Griffith over to London to negotiate a treaty with the Brits.
their motherboards are low-end but well-priced, and decent quality. their support is good aswell. my bios broke after i tried to flash the latest version, and abit sent me a new chip first class post without any fuss.
international staroffice
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uhmm.. no international support in StarOffice?
so how come i've got staroffice with English(UK), Spanish and Dutch support installed???
Actually, latency would be better with 256bit wide bus vs 64bit wide bus.
uhmm.. width of a bus has nothing to do with latency..
Since the time to get the first piece of data is the identical, but with a 256 bit bus you get 4 times as much data in the same amount of time.
if the time is identical then the latency is identical. and relatively speaking a 2GB/s bus with a latency of x ms has a poorer latency than a 1GB/s bus with latency of x ms. (ie the latency has not scaled with the bandwidth).
what the interleaving does do is to reduce wait states during the data transfer, thereby giving a higher bandwidth.
so you can't use the 66MHz memory clock to calculate the bandwidth, because then you're ignoring the effect of interleaving. and that effect is that memory access is multiplexed from the 4 64bit 66MHz dimm's onto a 200MHz 256-bit EV6 bus..
256bit @ 200MHz = 6.4GB/s theoretical peak rate.
which is something else...
although i'm not sure whether the 21264 really has a 200MHz host bus.. could be 100MHz which would equate to 3.2GB/s peak memory bandwidth.
Alpha does it by interleaving the memory. (kinda like raid0 for memory).
AFAIK it interleaves across multiple memory banks. it might also interleave across the memory modules in each bank as well, i'm not sure.
21164 has a 128bit bus width, so needs 2 dimm's or 4 simms in a memory bank. The UX board has 6 dimm sockets -> 3 banks, and there is a noticable increase in performance as you fill up each bank.
the 21264 has 4 dimm's in a bank (256 bit bus), so the potential for bandwidth gains via interleaving are even greater.
so effectively memory interleaving pipelines memory requests from the high-speed host bus and spreads them across multiple banks/modules of memory on a slower bus.
latency is poor, but you do get a huge increase in bandwidth for large memory access.
if this is what they're going to do with K7, it will mean you'll need to install your memory in pairs (or even quads for high-end boards), like you used to have to do with simm's on pentium machines.
i don't use kde, but i need the more familiar behaviour of kdm for some of the users. You can choose between openlook, fvwm95, windowmaker, KDE, staroffice and quake with the sessiontype box.. cool.
works well, and the newer versions of it support PAM aswell.:)
and how do you propose to use IP spoofing to post to slashdot???
hint: http -> tcp -> connection -> two way thing.
IP spoofing, remote end cannot reply to you.... no connection, no http....
ip spoofing works for sending untraceable mutant tcp/ip packets to crash windows machines... but it ain't going to get you very far in communicating with a http server.
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openpic doesn't need cpu support, so it would be possible to run the K6 in SMP mode, but there's no boards.
Perhaps if slashdot readers emailed Via and Acer Labs this might change.
(k6-3 with it's integrated L2 cache would be a great SMP chip).
What I need from a mail client:
Graphical interface. (No Pine!)
whoa there! what have you got against pine?
I used netscape for email ever since it started shipping with an email client. (ns3 i think), so for about 3 years. Then last year i got sick of NS4's bloatedness and switched to pine.#
pine is really cool. even better, it's very easy and intuitive to use. there's context help on available commands for every different screen, with extended online. and it's powerful so managing mail is dead easy.
configuration is done via a menu (again with context and online help), no messing with rc files if you don't want it.
if you run in it in an xterm it's graphical - you can click on commands, no typing!
and you can telnet into your machine and run the same email programme as in your Xsessions!
and it's a hell of a lot faster than any X programme ever could be!! and it doesn't crash!!
so what's wrong with pine???
i don't see any comments.
it says: 17 comments below your current threshold, yet i have my threshold set to -1???
bug somewhere?
have recieved reports from catdoc users, that they was able to read future plans of their bosses, which wasn't intended to be sent just now.
yeah, that's a feature of word's "fast save": it uses versioning. so the old text is still there, but not displayed!!
I heard of someone who used catdoc on a job offer he got, and he was able to read the money they had offered to another person!!
and to think the corporate word relies on Word!!
they weren't British Army, they were ex-British Army. First world war veterans who had nothing else to do, so they were packed off to Ireland to keep the 'unruly' irish under control.
unfortunately they were ill-disciplined and badly led, and were prone to killing peoplle, burning down houses and the like, for no good reason other than that they felt like it.
this just added to the ill-will felt by the irish towards the british, and solidified the will of the people to get the British out.
wasn't soon after that the cowardly De Valera sent Mick and Arthur Griffith over to London to negotiate a treaty with the Brits.
but that's a story in itself.
agree with you about abit.
their motherboards are low-end but well-priced, and decent quality. their support is good aswell. my bios broke after i tried to flash the latest version, and abit sent me a new chip first class post without any fuss.
uhmm.. no international support in StarOffice?
so how come i've got staroffice with English(UK), Spanish and Dutch support installed???
shurely shome mistake, missh moneypenny?
Actually, latency would be better with 256bit wide bus vs 64bit wide bus.
uhmm.. width of a bus has nothing to do with latency..
Since the time to get the first piece of data is the identical, but with a 256 bit bus you get 4 times as much data in the same amount of time.
if the time is identical then the latency is identical. and relatively speaking a 2GB/s bus with a latency of x ms has a poorer latency than a 1GB/s bus with latency of x ms. (ie the latency has not scaled with the bandwidth).
what the interleaving does do is to reduce wait states during the data transfer, thereby giving a higher bandwidth.
so you can't use the 66MHz memory clock to calculate the bandwidth, because then you're ignoring the effect of interleaving. and that effect is that memory access is multiplexed from the 4 64bit 66MHz dimm's onto a 200MHz 256-bit EV6 bus..
256bit @ 200MHz = 6.4GB/s theoretical peak rate.
which is something else...
although i'm not sure whether the 21264 really has a 200MHz host bus.. could be 100MHz which would equate to 3.2GB/s peak memory bandwidth.
Alpha does it by interleaving the memory. (kinda like raid0 for memory).
AFAIK it interleaves across multiple memory banks. it might also interleave across the memory modules in each bank as well, i'm not sure.
21164 has a 128bit bus width, so needs 2 dimm's or 4 simms in a memory bank. The UX board has 6 dimm sockets -> 3 banks, and there is a noticable increase in performance as you fill up each bank.
the 21264 has 4 dimm's in a bank (256 bit bus), so the potential for bandwidth gains via interleaving are even greater.
so effectively memory interleaving pipelines memory requests from the high-speed host bus and spreads them across multiple banks/modules of memory on a slower bus.
latency is poor, but you do get a huge increase in bandwidth for large memory access.
if this is what they're going to do with K7, it will mean you'll need to install your memory in pairs (or even quads for high-end boards), like you used to have to do with simm's on pentium machines.
i've had this set up for ages.
:)
i don't use kde, but i need the more familiar behaviour of kdm for some of the users. You can choose between openlook, fvwm95, windowmaker, KDE,
staroffice and quake with the sessiontype box.. cool.
works well, and the newer versions of it support PAM aswell.
linus called his kernel something like "freax" i believe.
it was another hacker who came up with the name linux and persuaded linus to use that.
and how do you propose to use IP spoofing to post to slashdot???
hint:
http -> tcp -> connection -> two way thing.
IP spoofing, remote end cannot reply to you.... no connection, no http....
ip spoofing works for sending untraceable mutant tcp/ip packets to crash windows machines... but it ain't going to get you very far in communicating with a http server.
K6 could be run in SMP configuration.
You just a socket7 motherboard with a chipset that supports OpenPIC (doesn't exist).