The Discovery Channel News Friday nights, and the Discovery Channel in general. I never watch network TV anymore. I've given up on it and anyone that participates in it.
A car speeds down a residential neighborhood at three times the speed limit. A policeman steps out in front of the car and holds his hand up. Same situation, only a forty-ton rock falls from the sky and lands in front of the car.
Ability and authority may be, and often times are, two different things.
It's a fireable offense to use SMS on the MS campus without a valid business reason.
However, on a completely unrelated topic, I have a few comments. Hemp is a miracle plant. You can use it's fibers to produce paper, saving countless trees. It can be made into clothing. Hemp seed oil can be used as an alternate fuel source. Hemp seed oil has more protein that soy bean oil. Hemp is a readily renewable resource, and could be the start of an incredibly profitable and environmentally friendly industry.
Oh yeah, you can smoke it, too [he says tongue-in-cheek].
Wasn't the whole idea of Linux an alternative OS? Well, we now have an alternate OS that will integrate nicely with rest of our pet projects. IT sounds like Be is very forthcoming with the specs for the API's, drivers, and whatnot. Granted, Be is not necessarily a step in the direction of Open Source, but it is an extra step away from the OS dominance of MS.
This can only be a good thing. It's good for them, good for us, and whether you care to admit it or not, good for MS. A little competition never hurts.
The best comment on this was made a few days back, that TPM has to live up to 16 years of expectation.
As I recall back in 1977, there were Star Wars lunchboxes, squirtguns, band-aids, Tshirts, and toys. Taco Bell had Darth Vader cups -- free refills with purchase for the duration of the offer. I remember seeing Carrie Fisher on SNL with the original cast. -- Hype, hype, hype.
I remember reading about Haile Sellassie appearing before the League of Nations in 1936 [?] asking for help against Mussolini and warning the other nations about his Teutonic friend. "I was not crowned emporer of my people to watch them die while you discuss this in a committee."
There *is* nothing new under the sun. Those who can't remember the past are doomed to whine incessantly.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/ is where the Y2K updates are if you want them. Bill would have shot himself in the foot if he didn't release them. I believe '95 is still the most popular OS of the bunch.
I run NT4/SP4, and contrary to what you may have heard, it only goes down when I say "shut down". My main machine's twin is on the other side of the monitor waiting for a few more parts, a switchbox, and the Redhat 6.0 CD.
I like Win '95 OSR2; especially how much I paid for it:). They should have stayed with a product that works. They still could if they were smart, however. . .
Owey, Stingy. I liked the cases from the article of about a month ago better.
Personally, I'd like to get three [just about the right height] machines into a flat-black, featureless case where the ratios of the dimensions are 1x4x9. I'd plant that in the center of my living room and hire some chimpanzees to run around bashing things with Peccary femurs. NO mimes, please; didn't work for Kubrick, but what the hell can one do?
Actually, I'd like to refurbish the 286 full tower case in my closet [that thing would shield from gamma rays!], paint it black, put a large red LED in the center of a chrome bezel, and place a plaque below it that reads HAL 9000. Now, what to do for a processor?
Hmmm . . . I think the idea is that a lot of music can be stored in a small amount of space. People want it to be portable. As an aside, not many people understand my love of LP walkmen, but then I am 6'4"; the 200 watt amp and the 15" drivers don't look too out of place. Then there's the Honda generator on the skateboard dragging behind me . . .
People also want it to have a reproducible sound, i.e. its going to sound the same each time. Granted, I can tell the difference 'twixt a new vinyl album and an MP3, but it's not really that distracting, except to someone such as yourself who makes his living at this. In that clean room environment the LP should sound superb, but otherwise [POP!] [Crackle!] [ZZZZIP!] In that clean room environment [Crackle!] [POP!] the LP should sound great, but otherwise [POP!] [Crackle!] [ZZZZIP!] . . .
I stopped by Costco the other day near Redmond and there were two neat, shrink-wrapped stacks of OS's: the Win '98 upgrade for $89, and Redhat 5.2 for $30. Guess which one I bought? [Hey, I'm a little lazy, and you try downloading Linux from the corporate LAN and not get noticed!]
I do some research 'fore I purchase things, but my eyeball is drawn [er, I have two] to the prettiest packaging. I suppose if Slackware had a tre colio glossy black box there, I may have bought that.
The important thing is that it's Linux, yes?
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Yes it's the Slashdot Mark II Progressives Jazz site! It has to share the dressing room with puppets, though.
Linux as an end user system is not the threat that Microsoft fears, it's Linux as server. Hence this unconfirmed but not unlikely article.
Every Linux CD that's produced and sold for $10x is NT Server with an unlimited number of licenses. Bill cannot bury it forever.
Linux is not one nor five nor ten companies selling a product, it is tens of thousands of people working on something that is tangible and knowable. Each piece of code is a labor of love for all involved. That cannot be stopped.
>>(does anyone know if that ppc dir on the nt cds actually are ppc mac versions of nt?!?
Yesiree Bob! That's exactly what they are. You have to get a conversion utility from Motorola to convert the HFP drives in the Mac to FAT, then you create a small partition to dump a tiny version of NT into, then the install takes over. [My info is mostly correct. Fnord.]
It's goofy, to say the least; a Mac with FAT drives. But NT runs faster than Mac OS on the PPC. It's an odd-bird setup that you won't find any support for in NT 5/Win 2000.
It may sound intriguing, but unless you have an extra Mac just hanging around, I would not do it. Get Virtual PC and install it that way if you absolutely must do this. I have a friend who's done it this way, and is very happy with it.
Or hell, just stick with OS 8.5 or X or your favorite flavor of *nux.
I've had the chance to play with many office suites, and I like MS Office. Office '97 is about as complex as it really needs to be.
If they released MS Office vers 7 -- nee Office '95 with a few polishing touches, that'd be fine. The code base is already there; it's already done. Bugs fixed. It works.
Hey, didn't Jobs say "Good artists create, great artists steal"? Isn't that what Bill does? Actually, he has scads of shiny things, so he can buy these things.
Thirty years ago Unix was born. In the intervening years it has migrated to nearly every system on this planet. Mac OS and Windows are new comers to this territory. They have now both taken steps into the Unix arena with OSX and NT [don't laugh; MS "bought" the DEC team that developed their Unix, VMS, and released NT as a result -- See NT Magazine vol 4, no 12].
This is My Little Bet that I'll place in a hermetically sealed jar and bury somewhere safe: In thirty years time there will be a more or less equal distribution of companies writing kernels, objects, drivers, and GUI's that match an international standard. I'll call it the Microcomputer Architectural/Interface Standard [MCAIS 1.0] of 2010. After the decade of senseless [and sometimes dangerous -- think air traffic, medicine, power distribution, etc.] battles over OS's and hardware configurations, the software and hardware communities and governments will come up with a set of standards out of necessity.
You think I've been eating bad rye bread, huh? Look at the new-fangled miracle device that revolutionized the way human beings communicate, the telephone. They all conform to a standard. Twelve identically labeled keys in a predictable pattern. A predictable placement of the earphone and microphone. An identical set of tones generated each time. I could name many other standard devices that had varied origins and configurations, but settled on a standard over time.
Funny, I didn't realize what I just did! AT&T -- Creators of UNIX and providers of telephone service.
In thirty years Apple and Microsoft may or may not be around, but computers will, and the need for them to interoperate will be paramount. However, the file recycle receptacle on the GUI in my starship will still be named "Cat Box".
FIN
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Buy a used PPC Mac and throw in a G3 daughter card upgrade. Cheaper than a silly-assed, fruit-colored Imac.
If I had more yuppie food coupons I'd do just that and sit it on my desk next to my P233 [It's that pesky informed opinion thing again].
Check with *shudder* the Jan '99 Mac Addict for more info on upgrading Mac's
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Just the facts:
Linux is an OS. Windows 9x/2000/NT is an OS. Mac OS 8.5 is an OS. Mac OS X is an OS. Irix is an OS. QNX is an OS.
The Mac 680x0's and G3's are computers. The Amiga is a computer. The SGI machines are computers. The x86 machines are computers. The Imac is a silly-ass toy;)
There seems to be some confusion over these points. It's possible to tweak, overclock, throw memory at, throw video cards at, and throw OS's at these machines in just about any combination. Doing these things costs $X for some components and $1.5X for others and $.75X for yet others. You can strip down or upgrade your machine to the point that it's an essential part of your home-heating system. However, it's assinine to say that one setup is "better" than any other. Whatever you use is up to you.
If the Amiga comes back in a big way, that'd be cool. It had a lot of genuinely new things to offer. Something else to mess with. [That's my on-topic comment so they don't have to send search planes for me]
My Mac-lovin' roommate and I will be building a Linux server sometime in the near future. It will more than likely be some flavor of AMD machine with a ridiculously large hard drive, but don't make the mistake of calling it a Wintel machine. Bill Gates has a very bad predilection for shiny things. Steve Jobs has repressed anger toward anyone who is not Steve Jobs. Linux developers need to take a walk once in a while.
The point is that whatever you choose is just fine. If you present me a machine/OS or a brand of machine/OS and call it better, I can throw a few dollars at another system/OS and show you up.
The best thing is that you can have Linux on nearly any of these machines. After all, that's the whole point of This Old Slashdot, neh?
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The Discovery Channel News Friday nights, and the Discovery Channel in general. I never watch network TV anymore. I've given up on it and anyone that participates in it.
TDC is owned by ABC however. Hmmm.
A car speeds down a residential neighborhood at three times the speed limit. A policeman steps out in front of the car and holds his hand up. Same situation, only a forty-ton rock falls from the sky and lands in front of the car.
Ability and authority may be, and often times are, two different things.
It's a fireable offense to use SMS on the MS campus without a valid business reason.
However, on a completely unrelated topic, I have a few comments. Hemp is a miracle plant. You can use it's fibers to produce paper, saving countless trees. It can be made into clothing. Hemp seed oil can be used as an alternate fuel source. Hemp seed oil has more protein that soy bean oil. Hemp is a readily renewable resource, and could be the start of an incredibly profitable and environmentally friendly industry.
Oh yeah, you can smoke it, too [he says tongue-in-cheek].
Wasn't the whole idea of Linux an alternative OS? Well, we now have an alternate OS that will integrate nicely with rest of our pet projects. IT sounds like Be is very forthcoming with the specs for the API's, drivers, and whatnot. Granted, Be is not necessarily a step in the direction of Open Source, but it is an extra step away from the OS dominance of MS.
This can only be a good thing. It's good for them, good for us, and whether you care to admit it or not, good for MS. A little competition never hurts.
Poodoo...
Looks like my post from work went through anyway.
[Drifts back into the shadows; trips]
Lick your stamps well; it will short out the leads.
Peyote Puffs would just make this a real humdinger of a party. Just put 'em next to Bob; ya know, the "short" guy next to the weiners.
The best comment on this was made a few days back, that TPM has to live up to 16 years of expectation.
As I recall back in 1977, there were Star Wars lunchboxes, squirtguns, band-aids, Tshirts, and toys. Taco Bell had Darth Vader cups -- free refills with purchase for the duration of the offer. I remember seeing Carrie Fisher on SNL with the original cast. -- Hype, hype, hype.
I remember reading about Haile Sellassie appearing before the League of Nations in 1936 [?] asking for help against Mussolini and warning the other nations about his Teutonic friend. "I was not crowned emporer of my people to watch them die while you discuss this in a committee."
There *is* nothing new under the sun. Those who can't remember the past are doomed to whine incessantly.
Did the sock monkey commercial creep-out anyone else? I was having flashbacks to "Poltergeist".
Yes, give this one some time. I think we'll see these figures become more realistic. I don't think AMD will disappoint us on price, either.
Another ß Windows 2K? Hmm. We're not even internally supporting Office 2K until June, which is ready to ship AFIAK.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/ is where the Y2K updates are if you want them. Bill would have shot himself in the foot if he didn't release them. I believe '95 is still the most popular OS of the bunch.
:). They should have stayed with a product that works. They still could if they were smart, however. . .
I run NT4/SP4, and contrary to what you may have heard, it only goes down when I say "shut down". My main machine's twin is on the other side of the monitor waiting for a few more parts, a switchbox, and the Redhat 6.0 CD.
I like Win '95 OSR2; especially how much I paid for it
Owey, Stingy. I liked the cases from the article of about a month ago better.
Personally, I'd like to get three [just about the right height] machines into a flat-black, featureless case where the ratios of the dimensions are 1x4x9. I'd plant that in the center of my living room and hire some chimpanzees to run around bashing things with Peccary femurs. NO mimes, please; didn't work for Kubrick, but what the hell can one do?
Actually, I'd like to refurbish the 286 full tower case in my closet [that thing would shield from gamma rays!], paint it black, put a large red LED in the center of a chrome bezel, and place a plaque below it that reads HAL 9000. Now, what to do for a processor?
Hmmm . . . I think the idea is that a lot of music can be stored in a small amount of space. People want it to be portable. As an aside, not many people understand my love of LP walkmen, but then I am 6'4"; the 200 watt amp and the 15" drivers don't look too out of place. Then there's the Honda generator on the skateboard dragging behind me . . .
People also want it to have a reproducible sound, i.e. its going to sound the same each time. Granted, I can tell the difference 'twixt a new vinyl album and an MP3, but it's not really that distracting, except to someone such as yourself who makes his living at this. In that clean room environment the LP should sound superb, but otherwise [POP!] [Crackle!] [ZZZZIP!] In that clean room environment [Crackle!] [POP!] the LP should sound great, but otherwise [POP!] [Crackle!] [ZZZZIP!] . . .
See my point? Relax. Don't take it personally.
I stopped by Costco the other day near Redmond and there were two neat, shrink-wrapped stacks of OS's: the Win '98 upgrade for $89, and Redhat 5.2 for $30. Guess which one I bought? [Hey, I'm a little lazy, and you try downloading Linux from the corporate LAN and not get noticed!]
I do some research 'fore I purchase things, but my eyeball is drawn [er, I have two] to the prettiest packaging. I suppose if Slackware had a tre colio glossy black box there, I may have bought that.
The important thing is that it's Linux, yes?
Yes it's the Slashdot Mark II Progressives Jazz site! It has to share the dressing room with puppets, though.
Linux as an end user system is not the threat that Microsoft fears, it's Linux as server. Hence this unconfirmed but not unlikely article.
Every Linux CD that's produced and sold for $10x is NT Server with an unlimited number of licenses. Bill cannot bury it forever.
Linux is not one nor five nor ten companies selling a product, it is tens of thousands of people working on something that is tangible and knowable. Each piece of code is a labor of love for all involved. That cannot be stopped.
The Czar, The King of England, and the Emperor of Austria were all releated in WWI.
Careful with those comparisons!;)
Yeah, came on line in what, 1997? Urbana, Illinois?
Okay, my definition of "a Unix" was really loose; a HAL or hardware dependent code sitting on top of the hardware.
Heck though, golly, didja like the rest of the polysyballic swill I sloshed? Huh?
Hey! I take personal offence at that remark! Star Wars came out it 1977, and Spaceballs came out in 1980 somethin"! Screw that noize!!!
[sudden tug on the monofiliment line]
Oh crap!
[My slippery. fishy, body rockets through the nodes to a suspicious-looking post]
>>(does anyone know if that ppc dir on the nt cds actually are ppc mac versions of nt?!?
Yesiree Bob! That's exactly what they are. You have to get a conversion utility from Motorola to convert the HFP drives in the Mac to FAT, then you create a small partition to dump a tiny version of NT into, then the install takes over.
[My info is mostly correct. Fnord.]
It's goofy, to say the least; a Mac with FAT drives. But NT runs faster than Mac OS on the PPC. It's an odd-bird setup that you won't find any support for in NT 5/Win 2000.
It may sound intriguing, but unless you have an extra Mac just hanging around, I would not do it. Get Virtual PC and install it that way if you absolutely must do this. I have a friend who's done it this way, and is very happy with it.
Or hell, just stick with OS 8.5 or X or your favorite flavor of *nux.
I've had the chance to play with many office suites, and I like MS Office. Office '97 is about as complex as it really needs to be.
If they released MS Office vers 7 -- nee Office '95 with a few polishing touches, that'd be fine. The code base is already there; it's already done. Bugs fixed. It works.
Hey, didn't Jobs say "Good artists create, great artists steal"? Isn't that what Bill does? Actually, he has scads of shiny things, so he can buy these things.
Thirty years ago Unix was born. In the intervening years it has migrated to nearly every system on this planet. Mac OS and Windows are new comers to this territory. They have now both taken steps into the Unix arena with OSX and NT [don't laugh; MS "bought" the DEC team that developed their Unix, VMS, and released NT as a result -- See NT Magazine vol 4, no 12].
This is My Little Bet that I'll place in a hermetically sealed jar and bury somewhere safe: In thirty years time there will be a more or less equal distribution of companies writing kernels, objects, drivers, and GUI's that match an international standard. I'll call it the Microcomputer Architectural/Interface Standard [MCAIS 1.0] of 2010. After the decade of senseless [and sometimes dangerous -- think air traffic, medicine, power distribution, etc.] battles over OS's and hardware configurations, the software and hardware communities and governments will come up with a set of standards out of necessity.
You think I've been eating bad rye bread, huh? Look at the new-fangled miracle device that revolutionized the way human beings communicate, the telephone. They all conform to a standard. Twelve identically labeled keys in a predictable pattern. A predictable placement of the earphone and microphone. An identical set of tones generated each time. I could name many other standard devices that had varied origins and configurations, but settled on a standard over time.
Funny, I didn't realize what I just did! AT&T -- Creators of UNIX and providers of telephone service.
In thirty years Apple and Microsoft may or may not be around, but computers will, and the need for them to interoperate will be paramount. However, the file recycle receptacle on the GUI in my starship will still be named "Cat Box".
FIN
Buy a used PPC Mac and throw in a G3 daughter card upgrade. Cheaper than a silly-assed, fruit-colored Imac.
If I had more yuppie food coupons I'd do just that and sit it on my desk next to my P233 [It's that pesky informed opinion thing again].
Check with *shudder* the Jan '99 Mac Addict for more info on upgrading Mac's
Just the facts:
;)
Linux is an OS.
Windows 9x/2000/NT is an OS.
Mac OS 8.5 is an OS.
Mac OS X is an OS.
Irix is an OS.
QNX is an OS.
The Mac 680x0's and G3's are computers.
The Amiga is a computer.
The SGI machines are computers.
The x86 machines are computers.
The Imac is a silly-ass toy
There seems to be some confusion over these points. It's possible to tweak, overclock, throw memory at, throw video cards at, and throw OS's at these machines in just about any combination. Doing these things costs $X for some components and $1.5X for others and $.75X for yet others. You can strip down or upgrade your machine to the point that it's an essential part of your home-heating system. However, it's assinine to say that one setup is "better" than any other. Whatever you use is up to you.
If the Amiga comes back in a big way, that'd be cool. It had a lot of genuinely new things to offer. Something else to mess with. [That's my on-topic comment so they don't have to send search planes for me]
My Mac-lovin' roommate and I will be building a Linux server sometime in the near future. It will more than likely be some flavor of AMD machine with a ridiculously large hard drive, but don't make the mistake of calling it a Wintel machine. Bill Gates has a very bad predilection for shiny things. Steve Jobs has repressed anger toward anyone who is not Steve Jobs. Linux developers need to take a walk once in a while.
The point is that whatever you choose is just fine. If you present me a machine/OS or a brand of machine/OS and call it better, I can throw a few dollars at another system/OS and show you up.
The best thing is that you can have Linux on nearly any of these machines. After all, that's the whole point of This Old Slashdot, neh?