This is just more mindless Google fanboy anti-Apple hate.
It's not like this a trojan you have to turn on the installation of non-market applications and go to a pirate app store to get installed. You actually have to have the device.
And this is just like a jailbreak, so it is a good thing.
Actually, this isn't mindless. This has been a known security issue in iOS since iOS 3 days, that Apple hasn't bothered to fix.
So unless you carry around a charging cable with the data pins removed or never charge at a USB port you don't own yourself, this is an issue (and has been for years).
Google (partially) fixed this on Android when noise first started being made in late 2010, but Apple didn't. Of course, due to fragmentation, that only means it's fixed if you bought your Android phone after mid-2011 or have an upgrade that implements the fix -- but Apple seems to be fragmenting within its own ecosystem, as this fix is iOS 7, and there are now a large number of iOS devices in every day use that aren't won't run iOS 7.
Yes, this is mindless, because it's an issue with all mobile OSs - funny how you managed to find an article that pretends otherwise http://managedsolutions.com/tag/juice-jacking/ doesn't.
BTW: there are commercial chargers that remove malware from Androids http://kapricasecurity.com/ - you really believe the opposite can't be done?
If Apple is that better they would STOP letting their contractor abusing the workers a long time ago
Back in 2010-2011, another contractor, Wintek, caused deaths and injuries to several of its workers due to n-hexane exposure - including one engineer who dropped dead while working
Anyone can come up with any kind of policy, and what Apple is doing is merely giving lip service to their "policy"
Especially after the death and injuries that had occurred in Wintek last time, Apple ought to have wised up and ensure that their so-called "policy" be strictly followed
First of all, do you know what hard-hitting journalistic work the NYT had to do to find out about that incident? They had to look into Apple's 2011 report. That's the source they give, and they obviously didn't know about it before. Wintek used n-hexane for all products for all customers - but only apple reported the incident, and only Apple required Wintek to stop using n-hexane and to provide evidence that they had removed the chemical from their production lines.
And talking about deaths: Samsung has been poisoning their workers for years so they die of cancer - and they don't clean up their act. http://stopsamsung.wordpress.com/
Where's the evidence that Apple cares about anything other than its public image? Apple didn't uncover these problems on its own. China Labor Watch did. The same was true at Foxconn.
Because Apple is a paying China Labor Watch to do what they do - while none of the other customers of either Foxconn or Pegatron do. And then Apple forces the companies CLW cites to change their work conditions - while none of the other customers of either Foxconn or Pegatron do.
It became an officially mandated standard in the EU for cell phones in 2010.
Sure. Which was not only completely voluntary, it also ran out end of last year, and has not been renewed. Mostly because the manufacturers don't think that (Micro-)USB is a good charging standard.
I'm not buying it, how could you possibly screwup a USB charger to the point where it would be lethal? I mean the cables aren't generally thick enough to carry enough 220V current to kill someone before they melt and 5.5V DC certainly isn't going to kill someone.
Well, having it designed by someone like you should make it a killer.
According to reports, a woman in China was tragically electrocuted using her iPhone while it was charging. This seems technically plausible to me if she were using a cheap or counterfeit charger like I describe below. There's 340 volts DC inside the charger, which is enough to kill. In a cheap charger, there can be less than a millimeter separating this voltage from the output, a fraction of the recommended safe distance. These charger sometimes short out (picture), which could send lethal voltage through the USB cable. If the user closes the circuit by standing on a damp floor or touching a grounded metal surface, electrocution is a possibility. If moisture condenses in the charger (e.g. in a humid bathroom), shorting becomes even more likely. Genuine Apple chargers (and other brand-name chargers) follow strict safety regulations (teardown) so I would be surprised if this electrocution happened with a name-brand charger. Since counterfeits look just like real chargers, I'll wait for an expert to determine if a genuine Apple charger was involved or not. I've read suggestions that the house wiring might have been to blame, but since chargers are typically ungrounded I don't see how faulty house wiring would play a role. I should point out that since there are few details at this point, this is all speculation; it's possible the phone and charger weren't involved at all.
" In order to prevent a security threat like this from happening again, we're completely overhauling our developer systems, updating our server software, and rebuilding our entire database."
"We knew about the vulnerability, and didn't do anything about it for months. Hopefully looking like we're doing all this to protect you means you won't sue us and find out."
Our old system was using Java - well known to be full of holes. Of course we were preparing to replace the whole mess for quite some time now.
Now let's assume for a moment that's true - what does the fact tell us that despite what your claim implies "iOS apps are just as invasive and curious about user data as Android apps are" and not more?
If the attacker didn't successfully get in why is Apple completely revamping the site?
Because they had planned a revamp for the near future anyway? Isn't that how most revamps "happen"? Because something else goes wrong and the people in charge decide that going to the new system now not only fixes the problem but takes away the hassle of two downtimes?
"Fascist" has never meant that, except in the fantasy of socialists who can't accept that the National Socialist party really was socialist
As per the definition provided by the Nazis (based on that by Oswald Spengler). "Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not." - Adolf Hitler.
As for Spengler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus#Rebuke_of_Marxism_and_definition_of_.22true_socialism.22 "True socialism according to Spengler would be in the form of corporatism, stating that "local corporate bodies organized according to the importance of each occupation to the people as a whole; higher representation in stages up to a supreme council of the state; mandates revocable at any time; no organized parties, no professional politicians, no periodic elections."
IOW they were "socialist" in the same way they were "Scottish". True,
Sometime in the future.... a gigantic European-American meteorological research station "The Florida Arklab" circles the earth with a crew of two men. Equipped with high-tech machinery, Max Marek, scientist, and Billy Hayes, chief technician, are in charge of global weather forecasts and climate control. Realizing that the radiation to which the capsule is exposed has become incalculable, scientists and politicians on earth are inclined to shut the station down. When a local conflict in the Middle East gets out of control and the American and the Russian fleets converge in the Indian Ocean, the CIA decides to exploit the stations abilities for military purposes. Marek, realizing the devastating effects this climatic manipulation would cause for large areas on earth, - without the knowledge of his colleague Hayes - tries to sabotage the computer program...
I thought we were past the "being surprised that apple products get malware" stage years ago. This seems like a pretty run-of-the-mill scam. I can't really see what's notable about it. Someone help?
But this isn't malware... Or so the OSX fanboys say every time these things come up.
Sure, this is malware - but it is not OS X specific malware. It's just Javascript running on all browsers with Javascript, nothing specific to a Mac.
Get that into your thick skull already, Hateboy, or do you want to prove just how dumb a Hatboy can be?
And they got their nuclear technology from Grand Fenwick, none less. Heck, if they buy missile technology from Cuba, maybe Florida should start worrying.
Actually the problem here is the same. Apple tried to leverage a monopoly in smartphones and tablets into a monopoly in ebooks. Much like Microsoft tried to leverage a monopoly in operating systems to a monopoly on browsers.
MacOS X is mostly irrelevant to this discussion.
Apple must be geniuses to leverage a non-existing "monopoly" in smartphones and a "monopoly" in tablets they wouldn't be able to have until they released both the iPad and the iBook Store together.
So I guess now all those people who said that Apple bundling their browser with their OS is okay (because, unlike MS, they've not been found guilty of abusing their monopoly) are now going to reverse their stance and admit that Apple is evil too, huh?
No because apple is not in a monopoly position. Microsoft was convicted not just because they bundled a browser but because in doing so they tried to use their monopoly in the desktop to try and gain a monopoly in another market. this is what is called abuse of monopoly.
apple is evil but it is not evil for the same reasons as microsoft.
It gets more specific: Microsoft already had been under investigation for monopoly abuse by the FTC and for the settlement signed a consent decree specifically stating that they would not bundle other products with Windows.
"I disagree. In this market, you had en extremely dominant player with 80-90% market share [cnn.com] selling products at a loss."
How can this possibly true given that the paperback versions were pretty much always cheaper again and producing a paperback product is always drastically more expensive than producing a digital version.
What the fuck does paperback price have to do with the ebook marketshare? Are you going for a Wookie defense?
Apple dictated the terms which the publishers agreed too
No, the publishers proposed that all retailers use the "agency model." Apple had proposed that a "most favored nation" cause be added to their contract to prevent Amazon from undercutting their prices, requiring all retailers to be on the same model was the counter-offer made by the publishers.
Amazon has been using MFN clauses for years. As well as the agency model. Even combined. But since they are only a monopoly, that's okay.
This is like asking what is the fair market price for bread. And let's not pretend that all book purchasing is voluntary and optional. Apple got in to the ebook market to replace the current model for school textbooks, which are mandatory purchases.
Yeah - and one of the reasons they sell is that their iBook textbooks are way cheaper than the physical ones they replace. Time for another theory.
Let's not forget that the "military attack" which was supposedly not an "accident" happened because KAL Flight 007 was hundreds of miles off course (ignoring conspiracy theories of why this happened).
That brings us to three now (ArcMap, Banyan, & NavInt) that are known to not be NSA code names. It would be funny if the entire list was in fact known commercial technical terms and/or government divisions.
I've been voted down for pointing out that there is a SEO program called TrafficThief.
You understand that this isn't Apple vs the "publishing biz", right? The publishers were in on it from beginning to end and were set to profit handsomely from the arrangement.
Yeah, if only they didn't get less money out of it. Fun fact: the only party to make more money was Amazon.
Soooo.... shouldn't Amazon be free to set whatever price they choose for what they sell? But, oh, wait, Apple colluded with publishers to set up a market that forced a particular price on Amazon.
At least one publishers offered Amazon to keep using the Wholesale model for ebooks with changed sales windows - they refused. Instead they stopped selling their ebooks and books. IOW it was Amazon who initiated using force.
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This is just more mindless Google fanboy anti-Apple hate.
It's not like this a trojan you have to turn on the installation of non-market applications and go to a pirate app store to get installed. You actually have to have the device.
And this is just like a jailbreak, so it is a good thing.
Actually, this isn't mindless. This has been a known security issue in iOS since iOS 3 days, that Apple hasn't bothered to fix.
See this article coming out of DEFCON 2011:
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/08/19/is-juicejacking-the-new-firesheep/
So unless you carry around a charging cable with the data pins removed or never charge at a USB port you don't own yourself, this is an issue (and has been for years).
Google (partially) fixed this on Android when noise first started being made in late 2010, but Apple didn't. Of course, due to fragmentation, that only means it's fixed if you bought your Android phone after mid-2011 or have an upgrade that implements the fix -- but Apple seems to be fragmenting within its own ecosystem, as this fix is iOS 7, and there are now a large number of iOS devices in every day use that aren't won't run iOS 7.
Yes, this is mindless, because it's an issue with all mobile OSs - funny how you managed to find an article that pretends otherwise http://managedsolutions.com/tag/juice-jacking/ doesn't.
BTW: there are commercial chargers that remove malware from Androids http://kapricasecurity.com/ - you really believe the opposite can't be done?
http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/06/03/0312208/researchers-infect-ios-devices-with-malware-via-malicious-charger - "At the upcoming Black Hat security conference in late July, three researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology plan to show off a proof-of-concept charger..."
If Apple is that better they would STOP letting their contractor abusing the workers a long time ago
Back in 2010-2011, another contractor, Wintek, caused deaths and injuries to several of its workers due to n-hexane exposure - including one engineer who dropped dead while working
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/technology/23apple.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Anyone can come up with any kind of policy, and what Apple is doing is merely giving lip service to their "policy"
Especially after the death and injuries that had occurred in Wintek last time, Apple ought to have wised up and ensure that their so-called "policy" be strictly followed
First of all, do you know what hard-hitting journalistic work the NYT had to do to find out about that incident? They had to look into Apple's 2011 report. That's the source they give, and they obviously didn't know about it before. Wintek used n-hexane for all products for all customers - but only apple reported the incident, and only Apple required Wintek to stop using n-hexane and to provide evidence that they had removed the chemical from their production lines.
And talking about deaths: Samsung has been poisoning their workers for years so they die of cancer - and they don't clean up their act. http://stopsamsung.wordpress.com/
Where's the evidence that Apple cares about anything other than its public image? Apple didn't uncover these problems on its own. China Labor Watch did. The same was true at Foxconn.
Because Apple is a paying China Labor Watch to do what they do - while none of the other customers of either Foxconn or Pegatron do. And then Apple forces the companies CLW cites to change their work conditions - while none of the other customers of either Foxconn or Pegatron do.
Apart from this standard, that is.
... that is only a few months old, with no working hardware expected until next year.
It became an officially mandated standard in the EU for cell phones in 2010.
Sure. Which was not only completely voluntary, it also ran out end of last year, and has not been renewed. Mostly because the manufacturers don't think that (Micro-)USB is a good charging standard.
I'm not buying it, how could you possibly screwup a USB charger to the point where it would be lethal? I mean the cables aren't generally thick enough to carry enough 220V current to kill someone before they melt and 5.5V DC certainly isn't going to kill someone.
Well, having it designed by someone like you should make it a killer.
http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html
According to reports, a woman in China was tragically electrocuted using her iPhone while it was charging. This seems technically plausible to me if she were using a cheap or counterfeit charger like I describe below. There's 340 volts DC inside the charger, which is enough to kill. In a cheap charger, there can be less than a millimeter separating this voltage from the output, a fraction of the recommended safe distance. These charger sometimes short out (picture), which could send lethal voltage through the USB cable. If the user closes the circuit by standing on a damp floor or touching a grounded metal surface, electrocution is a possibility. If moisture condenses in the charger (e.g. in a humid bathroom), shorting becomes even more likely. Genuine Apple chargers (and other brand-name chargers) follow strict safety regulations (teardown) so I would be surprised if this electrocution happened with a name-brand charger. Since counterfeits look just like real chargers, I'll wait for an expert to determine if a genuine Apple charger was involved or not. I've read suggestions that the house wiring might have been to blame, but since chargers are typically ungrounded I don't see how faulty house wiring would play a role. I should point out that since there are few details at this point, this is all speculation; it's possible the phone and charger weren't involved at all.
" In order to prevent a security threat like this from happening again, we're completely overhauling our developer systems, updating our server software, and rebuilding our entire database."
"We knew about the vulnerability, and didn't do anything about it for months. Hopefully looking like we're doing all this to protect you means you won't sue us and find out."
Our old system was using Java - well known to be full of holes. Of course we were preparing to replace the whole mess for quite some time now.
they don't have to ask for permission.
Now let's assume for a moment that's true - what does the fact tell us that despite what your claim implies "iOS apps are just as invasive and curious about user data as Android apps are" and not more?
If the attacker didn't successfully get in why is Apple completely revamping the site?
Because they had planned a revamp for the near future anyway? Isn't that how most revamps "happen"? Because something else goes wrong and the people in charge decide that going to the new system now not only fixes the problem but takes away the hassle of two downtimes?
"Fascist" has never meant that, except in the fantasy of socialists who can't accept that the National Socialist party really was socialist
As per the definition provided by the Nazis (based on that by Oswald Spengler). "Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not." - Adolf Hitler.
As for Spengler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus#Rebuke_of_Marxism_and_definition_of_.22true_socialism.22 "True socialism according to Spengler would be in the form of corporatism, stating that "local corporate bodies organized according to the importance of each occupation to the people as a whole; higher representation in stages up to a supreme council of the state; mandates revocable at any time; no organized parties, no professional politicians, no periodic elections."
IOW they were "socialist" in the same way they were "Scottish". True,
http://www.atlasfilm.com/product/by-genre/classic---cult/the-noahs-ark-principle.html
Sometime in the future.... a gigantic European-American meteorological research station "The Florida Arklab" circles the earth with a crew of two men. Equipped with high-tech machinery, Max Marek, scientist, and Billy Hayes, chief technician, are in charge of global weather forecasts and climate control. Realizing that the radiation to which the capsule is exposed has become incalculable, scientists and politicians on earth are inclined to shut the station down. When a local conflict in the Middle East gets out of control and the American and the Russian fleets converge in the Indian Ocean, the CIA decides to exploit the stations abilities for military purposes. Marek, realizing the devastating effects this climatic manipulation would cause for large areas on earth, - without the knowledge of his colleague Hayes - tries to sabotage the computer program...
Surface was never meant to compete with the iPad. It's more like a laptop/tablet hybrid.
Microsoft is currently running ads comparing Surface to iPad; so, I would guess that Microsoft absolutely intended for Surface to compete with iPads.
And they just added another item "Way, way cheaper than the iPad" to the long list. I'm sure they will be successful now.
I thought we were past the "being surprised that apple products get malware" stage years ago. This seems like a pretty run-of-the-mill scam. I can't really see what's notable about it. Someone help?
But this isn't malware... Or so the OSX fanboys say every time these things come up.
Sure, this is malware - but it is not OS X specific malware. It's just Javascript running on all browsers with Javascript, nothing specific to a Mac.
Get that into your thick skull already, Hateboy, or do you want to prove just how dumb a Hatboy can be?
How close NK is to having a working nuke?
North Korea has and has tested multiple nuclear weapons.
And they got their nuclear technology from Grand Fenwick, none less. Heck, if they buy missile technology from Cuba, maybe Florida should start worrying.
Actually the problem here is the same. Apple tried to leverage a monopoly in smartphones and tablets into a monopoly in ebooks. Much like Microsoft tried to leverage a monopoly in operating systems to a monopoly on browsers.
MacOS X is mostly irrelevant to this discussion.
Apple must be geniuses to leverage a non-existing "monopoly" in smartphones and a "monopoly" in tablets they wouldn't be able to have until they released both the iPad and the iBook Store together.
So I guess now all those people who said that Apple bundling their browser with their OS is okay (because, unlike MS, they've not been found guilty of abusing their monopoly) are now going to reverse their stance and admit that Apple is evil too, huh?
No because apple is not in a monopoly position. Microsoft was convicted not just because they bundled a browser but because in doing so they tried to use their monopoly in the desktop to try and gain a monopoly in another market. this is what is called abuse of monopoly.
apple is evil but it is not evil for the same reasons as microsoft.
It gets more specific: Microsoft already had been under investigation for monopoly abuse by the FTC and for the settlement signed a consent decree specifically stating that they would not bundle other products with Windows.
"I disagree. In this market, you had en extremely dominant player with 80-90% market share [cnn.com] selling products at a loss."
How can this possibly true given that the paperback versions were pretty much always cheaper again and producing a paperback product is always drastically more expensive than producing a digital version.
What the fuck does paperback price have to do with the ebook marketshare? Are you going for a Wookie defense?
No, the publishers proposed that all retailers use the "agency model." Apple had proposed that a "most favored nation" cause be added to their contract to prevent Amazon from undercutting their prices, requiring all retailers to be on the same model was the counter-offer made by the publishers.
Amazon has been using MFN clauses for years. As well as the agency model. Even combined. But since they are only a monopoly, that's okay.
Cote said the conspiracy resulted in prices for some e-books rising to $12.99 or $14.99, when Amazon had sold for $9.99.
So you are arguing that because you have unspecific anecdotal evidence to the contrary, this judge is a liar?
No, the DOJ are liars - the judge is just not well informed.
This is like asking what is the fair market price for bread. And let's not pretend that all book purchasing is voluntary and optional. Apple got in to the ebook market to replace the current model for school textbooks, which are mandatory purchases.
Yeah - and one of the reasons they sell is that their iBook textbooks are way cheaper than the physical ones they replace. Time for another theory.
Let's not forget that the "military attack" which was supposedly not an "accident" happened because KAL Flight 007 was hundreds of miles off course (ignoring conspiracy theories of why this happened).
That brings us to three now (ArcMap, Banyan, & NavInt) that are known to not be NSA code names. It would be funny if the entire list was in fact known commercial technical terms and/or government divisions.
I've been voted down for pointing out that there is a SEO program called TrafficThief.
You understand that this isn't Apple vs the "publishing biz", right? The publishers were in on it from beginning to end and were set to profit handsomely from the arrangement.
Yeah, if only they didn't get less money out of it. Fun fact: the only party to make more money was Amazon.
Soooo.... shouldn't Amazon be free to set whatever price they choose for what they sell? But, oh, wait, Apple colluded with publishers to set up a market that forced a particular price on Amazon.
At least one publishers offered Amazon to keep using the Wholesale model for ebooks with changed sales windows - they refused. Instead they stopped selling their ebooks and books. IOW it was Amazon who initiated using force.