There's an update to the first article - looks like almost the same attack (via the same JavaScript inclusion, using a different exploit of course) was active on Fedoraforum.org last July.
You do realize that Apple has handed over Java support on OSX back to Oracle, right?
For Java 7, yes, Apple doesn't support that. For Java 6, they still do. The Apple version of Java still exists, was vulnerable to the Java 0-day, and missed the patches that fixed it that were first released a couple of weeks ago.
The fix to patch the vulnerability and remove the malware if it's there is available today.
The keyword there is "today." The actual Java patch was available earlier, it's just Apple only bothered patching their version of Java until - well, after they got bitten by the vulnerability, apparently. Apple had been content to just say "applets are no longer supported" and leave it at that.
RTFA. Seriously. There was a patch - but it didn't fully fix the hole. Not to mention that "Apple's version of Java" wasn't affected, only Java 7.
The nice thing about USENET is that so few archive back that far. I have posts saved in my newsreader that I can't find archived online, they are so old. At least then I used a pseudonym I never used since, though I used my real name as well within posts, but then my name here is my real name. Never caused me any trouble, and likely never will.
Errm, chances are that they were archived by DejaNews, later bought by Google. And since we are talking about Google, you can be sure they still have them even though they removed them from public access via Google Groups.
Check out the AOL Lira patents and the discussion around them. They cover scroll bounce in some methods and it is believe that Apple's patent is merely natural evolution of them, ie not patent worthy.
Cite the page, or admit you are wrong. If all you have is belief, you are part of a religion.
Bwahhahaha. That's a good one. Reality check: no iPhone looked like any Sony product ever. The near final design for the first iPhone predates the Jony phone by quite some time - which is actually the result of an article about Sony's latest Walkman whose design was inspired by Apple design according to it's designer.
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal. And at Apple, we have always been shameless about stealing good ideas."
-Steven P. Jobs
And Google and Samsung copied.
"One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest." - T.S. Eliot
Added back the part of the quote not supported by your link. So, let's sum up: you ask a question, answer it yourself - wrong of course, and then try to pretend you were right by pretending you were asking something else. Did I miss something?
Well, not only is that decision not final - look at why it was "invalidated: because they counted a previous patent as prior art - a patent by Apple. IOW even if the "new" patent gets invalidated, the old one still remains valid.
Isn't that one of the many Samsung phones Apple sought an injunction for claiming that it infringed on their iPhone design patent because among other ambiguous design concepts it had rounded corners and was therefor indistinguishable from an iPhone? (yes)
Well, you had a 50% chance and blew it. The answer is no.
Samsung is well known for cross-licensing intellectual property, and it's pragmatic attitude towards litigation.
Yeah, that's why Samsung has sued LG (repeatedly) as well as just about any other LCD maker, Sansdisk, Ericsson, various journalists - not to mention various phone makers for copying their design in 2006. Because they hate litigation, just not as much as they love money.
Exactly. Even if the lawsuit went ahead due to momentum, as leader in charge of the company, wouldn't you be willing to work to end the lawsuit through settlements and get back to business?
Poor battery performance: After updating to Android 4.2, services from Google Play can eat away at battery life immensely. This affects the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and Nexus 4. The Nexus 7, however, also has its own exclusive battery issue; After updating to Android 4.1, Google’s 7-inch tablet tends to charge very slowly in certain circumstances, as some users in the XDA developers forum have acknowledged.
Random reboots: Devices are randomly rebooting after updating to Android 4.2. This bug affects the Nexus 10, Nexus 7, Nexus 4, and Galaxy Nexus – and has occurred while performing tasks and remaining idle. Some Nexus 10 users report suffering from random reboots multiple times each day. Interestingly enough, HTC’s Windows Phone 8X also suffers from the same issue.
Slow and unstable UI: The user interface, which Google boasted to be “buttery smooth,” appears to have taken a turn in the complete opposite direction with the update. Some devices upgraded from Android 4.1.2, (i.e. the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7) are slow and sluggish while opening apps and navigating through the user interface. A factory reset may remedy some of these concerns, but a laggy UI isn’t the only issue. Some Galaxy Nexus owners have said that their screen will light up without any interaction, much like an iPhone when it gets a notification.
You seem to think that an Android device would need to use FAT to use an SD card, even if it were the only device to ever access it. That was my point.
I was under the impression that the user expected to be able to turn the phone off, eject the SD card, and insert it into a PC running Windows without Windows offering to erase everything on the card. This means the Android device cannot just reformat it to Ext.
fucking
Why so vulgar?
Because you are a asshole. Who else would constantly change the definition of things when he's losing an argument. " A tablet can't be a PC because it doesn't have expandable storage - which is needed only to exchange data with a real PC."
I'm not sure what you meant by that post. Allow me to clarify: If an Android tablet is supposed to read and write FAT file systems on SD cards, then the manufacturer of the Android tablet has to pay a royalty to the SD Card Association and to Microsoft. Leaving out support for FAT file systems on SD cards allows Android tablet manufacturers to escape Microsoft's notice.
Well. I'm not surprised that you don't know what it means. You seem to think that an Android device would need to use FAT to use an SD card, even if it were the only device to ever access it. That was my point. Was was you fucking point? I can only guess that you had none.
WTF is up with many tablets not having an SD slot?
Probably tablet makers not wanting to pay their tithe to Microsoft for the use of its file system patents. Windows XP can't write to any file system that isn't FAT or NTFS. Windows Vista and later can write to UDF, but SDXC mandates Microsoft's ExFAT, not UDF.
Yeah, that's a perfectly good reason why Android tablets don't have SD cards.
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Virus scanners on Windows catch Java exploits! Having a virus scanner technology could have prevented this.
Sure. Virus scanners can catch 0-day vulnerabilities. Whatever you say.
There's an update to the first article - looks like almost the same attack (via the same JavaScript inclusion, using a different exploit of course) was active on Fedoraforum.org last July.
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You do realize that Apple has handed over Java support on OSX back to Oracle, right?
For Java 7, yes, Apple doesn't support that. For Java 6, they still do. The Apple version of Java still exists, was vulnerable to the Java 0-day, and missed the patches that fixed it that were first released a couple of weeks ago.
Now that's odd, are you claiming that the 0-day works in Apple's Java 6 despite only working under Java 7? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2013-0431
The fix to patch the vulnerability and remove the malware if it's there is available today.
The keyword there is "today." The actual Java patch was available earlier, it's just Apple only bothered patching their version of Java until - well, after they got bitten by the vulnerability, apparently. Apple had been content to just say "applets are no longer supported" and leave it at that.
RTFA. Seriously. There was a patch - but it didn't fully fix the hole. Not to mention that "Apple's version of Java" wasn't affected, only Java 7.
The nice thing about USENET is that so few archive back that far. I have posts saved in my newsreader that I can't find archived online, they are so old. At least then I used a pseudonym I never used since, though I used my real name as well within posts, but then my name here is my real name. Never caused me any trouble, and likely never will.
Errm, chances are that they were archived by DejaNews, later bought by Google. And since we are talking about Google, you can be sure they still have them even though they removed them from public access via Google Groups.
Funny, my phone was made by Motorola.
Yeah, that really is funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Check out the AOL Lira patents and the discussion around them. They cover scroll bounce in some methods and it is believe that Apple's patent is merely natural evolution of them, ie not patent worthy.
Cite the page, or admit you are wrong. If all you have is belief, you are part of a religion.
We are heading into a Mobile OS monoculture dominated by Google/Android to thundering applause from half the people on this forum.
That's far better than a mobile OS monoculture dominated by the likes of Apple or Microsoft.
Nice try, but Android is a Samsung monoculture.
They have to use sticks with rounded corners now.
Yeah, they call them "baton".
And by equipping front-line personnel with the most fragile peice of telecommunications equipment in the world!
Have they changed their mind and went with the Samsung Galaxy S III? https://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=iphone+5+drop+test
Even the styling of their signature products has been directly copied from other company's work from the 70s.
....they copied Sony http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/07/27/apple-prototypes-show-iphone-inspired-by-sony-and-kickstand-ipad/index.html
Bwahhahaha. That's a good one. Reality check: no iPhone looked like any Sony product ever. The near final design for the first iPhone predates the Jony phone by quite some time - which is actually the result of an article about Sony's latest Walkman whose design was inspired by Apple design according to it's designer.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/01/the-sony-device-samsung-claims-inspired-apples-iphone/?source=yahoo_quote
What next, "the iPad is a copy of that thing in 2001"?
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal. And at Apple, we have always been shameless about stealing good ideas."
-Steven P. Jobs
And Google and Samsung copied.
"One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest." - T.S. Eliot
There may not be a real example, but if you would read on the subject you would know that AOL patented the idea first. For a web browser, even.
And which idea would that be? Do tell us what AOL has patented, and how it relates to Apple's patent.
Apple looking to add Samsung's Galaxy S3 to their injunction
Added back the part of the quote not supported by your link. So, let's sum up: you ask a question, answer it yourself - wrong of course, and then try to pretend you were right by pretending you were asking something else. Did I miss something?
You mean the one that got invalidated as a patent?
http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/76470.html
Well, not only is that decision not final - look at why it was "invalidated: because they counted a previous patent as prior art - a patent by Apple. IOW even if the "new" patent gets invalidated, the old one still remains valid.
Isn't that one of the many Samsung phones Apple sought an injunction for claiming that it infringed on their iPhone design patent because among other ambiguous design concepts it had rounded corners and was therefor indistinguishable from an iPhone? (yes)
Well, you had a 50% chance and blew it. The answer is no.
Samsung is well known for cross-licensing intellectual property, and it's pragmatic attitude towards litigation.
Yeah, that's why Samsung has sued LG (repeatedly) as well as just about any other LCD maker, Sansdisk, Ericsson, various journalists - not to mention various phone makers for copying their design in 2006. Because they hate litigation, just not as much as they love money.
Exactly. Even if the lawsuit went ahead due to momentum, as leader in charge of the company, wouldn't you be willing to work to end the lawsuit through settlements and get back to business?
Yeah, if only Samsung didn't refuse to settle. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57549512-37/samsung-we-dont-intend-to-negotiate-with-apple/
And even that wouldn't really be news anymore.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-4-2-1-update-december-apocalypse-back-on/
Poor battery performance: After updating to Android 4.2, services from Google Play can eat away at battery life immensely. This affects the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and Nexus 4. The Nexus 7, however, also has its own exclusive battery issue; After updating to Android 4.1, Google’s 7-inch tablet tends to charge very slowly in certain circumstances, as some users in the XDA developers forum have acknowledged.
Random reboots: Devices are randomly rebooting after updating to Android 4.2. This bug affects the Nexus 10, Nexus 7, Nexus 4, and Galaxy Nexus – and has occurred while performing tasks and remaining idle. Some Nexus 10 users report suffering from random reboots multiple times each day. Interestingly enough, HTC’s Windows Phone 8X also suffers from the same issue.
Slow and unstable UI: The user interface, which Google boasted to be “buttery smooth,” appears to have taken a turn in the complete opposite direction with the update. Some devices upgraded from Android 4.1.2, (i.e. the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7) are slow and sluggish while opening apps and navigating through the user interface. A factory reset may remedy some of these concerns, but a laggy UI isn’t the only issue. Some Galaxy Nexus owners have said that their screen will light up without any interaction, much like an iPhone when it gets a notification.
You seem to think that an Android device would need to use FAT to use an SD card, even if it were the only device to ever access it. That was my point.
I was under the impression that the user expected to be able to turn the phone off, eject the SD card, and insert it into a PC running Windows without Windows offering to erase everything on the card. This means the Android device cannot just reformat it to Ext.
fucking
Why so vulgar?
Because you are a asshole. Who else would constantly change the definition of things when he's losing an argument. " A tablet can't be a PC because it doesn't have expandable storage - which is needed only to exchange data with a real PC."
You are such a tool.
...because???
Samsung will soon come out with one and you will need to tell the Fanboys why Apple is behind in the important Smart Watch market.
I'm not sure what you meant by that post. Allow me to clarify: If an Android tablet is supposed to read and write FAT file systems on SD cards, then the manufacturer of the Android tablet has to pay a royalty to the SD Card Association and to Microsoft. Leaving out support for FAT file systems on SD cards allows Android tablet manufacturers to escape Microsoft's notice.
Well. I'm not surprised that you don't know what it means. You seem to think that an Android device would need to use FAT to use an SD card, even if it were the only device to ever access it. That was my point. Was was you fucking point? I can only guess that you had none.
WTF is up with many tablets not having an SD slot?
Probably tablet makers not wanting to pay their tithe to Microsoft for the use of its file system patents. Windows XP can't write to any file system that isn't FAT or NTFS. Windows Vista and later can write to UDF, but SDXC mandates Microsoft's ExFAT, not UDF.
Yeah, that's a perfectly good reason why Android tablets don't have SD cards.