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Apple Said To Be Working On a 'Watch-Like Device'

The WSJ reports that Apple is "experimenting with designs for a watch-like device that would perform some functions of a smartphone, according to people briefed on the effort." An excerpt: The company has discussed such a device with its major manufacturing partner Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., one of these people said, as part of explorations of potentially large product categories beyond the smartphone and tablet. Apple's efforts come as companies have introduced various kinds of wearable gadgets, mainly designed to measure physical activity. More sophisticated devices face big technical challenges, but also are attracting investments from large technology companies. Foxconn, as Hon Hai is also known, has been working on a spate of technologies that could be used in wearable devices, one of these people said. In particular, the Taiwan-based company has been working to address the challenges of making displays more power-efficient and working with chip manufacturers to strip down their products."

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  1. The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kind of like this? http://getpebble.com/

    1. Re:The iWatch by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Like that, but with fewer buttons and way more expensive.

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    2. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And locked into the Apple ecosystem.

    3. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Eco or Sewage system?

    4. Re:The iWatch by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

      Or Sony's SmartWatch of a year ago.

    5. Re:The iWatch by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've only had my Pebble for a few days, but I'm finding it pretty convenient when I'm out and about. A lot quicker when I'm walking somewhere, or on the subway, to glance at my wrist to see if I need to respond to an email right away or if it can wait. And the (currently) rudimentary music controls are convenient, too. It's still in a primitive state, but hopefully the developer community will come up with some killer apps for it. Time will tell if it becomes useful enough to survive past the toy stage and become a regular fixture on my arm.

    6. Re:The iWatch by loufoque · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And without e-ink, which means it will need to be recharged every 10 hours.

    7. Re:The iWatch by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      Sewage systems are often part of the ecology of civilizations, so yes.

    8. Re:The iWatch by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      I've only had my Pebble for a few days, but I'm finding it pretty convenient when I'm out and about. A lot quicker when I'm walking somewhere, or on the subway, to glance at my wrist to see if I need to respond to an email right away or if it can wait. And the (currently) rudimentary music controls are convenient, too.

      It's still in a primitive state, but hopefully the developer community will come up with some killer apps for it. Time will tell if it becomes useful enough to survive past the toy stage and become a regular fixture on my arm.

      'Need to respond to an email right away'? Email is an inherently laggy and unreliable messaging system...

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    9. Re:The iWatch by hawguy · · Score: 1

      I've only had my Pebble for a few days, but I'm finding it pretty convenient when I'm out and about. A lot quicker when I'm walking somewhere, or on the subway, to glance at my wrist to see if I need to respond to an email right away or if it can wait. And the (currently) rudimentary music controls are convenient, too.

      It's still in a primitive state, but hopefully the developer community will come up with some killer apps for it. Time will tell if it becomes useful enough to survive past the toy stage and become a regular fixture on my arm.

      'Need to respond to an email right away'? Email is an inherently laggy and unreliable messaging system...

      Maybe you need a new email provider. With both Gmail and my company's Exchange system, emails show up on my mobile device within 10 seconds or so at least 99% of the time. I can't even remember the last time I lost an email I was expecting - sometimes emails get trapped in a spam filter, but almost never with someone I correpspond regularly (like my coworkers).

      Availability of the mobile network on my commute is far less reliable than my email services, but even so there are still times when I'd like to return an email within minutes rather than waiting until I get to work. And if I'm on the train, it's not always convenient to pull out the phone to check my email. Though I still don't think I'd want this smartphone-on-a-wrist.

    10. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope not like that at all, Apple is going to "innovate" the wristwatch in six months and file for a patent. This device could therefore be used as prior art thus it does not exist. It could not exist and in fact it never will exist once Apples stormtroopers (aka IP lawyers) attack.

    11. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not once Apple gets key patents and sues Pebble out of existence.

    12. Re:The iWatch by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      Its an inherent part of the email protocol, add in spam filtering and its unreliable.

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    13. Re:The iWatch by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Its an inherent part of the email protocol, add in spam filtering and its unreliable.

      It may be theoretically unreliable since there's no delivery guarantee (and delivery can be delayed by hours or days), but in practice, email has proven to be as reliable as my internet connection. Gmail outages are rare enough that they are widely reported, our corporate exchange server has provided greater than 99.99% uptime over the past 12 months (including scheduled downtime for maintenance)

    14. Re:The iWatch by hedwards · · Score: 2

      That's only guaranteed if the messages don't need to move between servers. If they do, then there's the theoretical 5 days or so that the servers are supposed to keep trying to find a route before giving up. One of the downsides to the decentralized nature of the net is that sometimes things just get lost.

    15. Re:The iWatch by Memophage · · Score: 1

      Or like this: http://goo.gl/t3rGM

    16. Re:The iWatch by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      add in spam filtering and its unreliable.

      When properly done, spam filtering doesn't make mail unreliable. Sender gets a bounce if his mail doesn't get through, so he will know what's going on, and to retry.

    17. Re:The iWatch by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      One of the downsides to the decentralized nature of the net is that sometimes things just get lost.

      Not lost, just delayed. After those 5 days, your e-mail will either have been delivered to its intended destination, or come back to you with an error message explaining what went wrong. And if delayed for more that 4 hours, you'll usually get an early warning message too...

      Properly set up e-mail works surprisingly well these days. Lost e-mails are usually the result of sub-par providers who take shortcuts, or users who don't know how to use the tool.

    18. Re:The iWatch by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      The sad part if Cook really has no choice in the matter when you think about it. The way steve jobs was able to keep the Apple premium so high for so long is he would find new markets so they were always cutting edge and thus could charge a premium while they are the only game in town or the competition is behind. if Apple sticks with one market too long they risk taking a trip to commodity land which is someplace Apple just doesn't want to go. i mean look at how few Macbooks they sell compared to laptops, or how Android is exploding with a bazillion competitors in the phone and tablet space.

      No if Cook wants to keep that Apple premium they have no choice but to find new markets or end up trapped with their competitors racing to the bottom. Will it work with a watch? i kinda doubt it, watches tend to come off as nerdy not to mention i'm seeing more and more young folks not even bothering with watches because they have a smartphone that they use for everything. But its not like Cook has a choice as the longer they stay in a market the more it will sour. sure there will always be iFans that will buy the latest and great iAnything but as a retailer i can tell you when everything starts becoming equal the customers starts looking at price. Android up to 2.x just wasn't in the same ballpark and now that's not the case, now Cook has to find them a new market so they can keep that trendsetter image and keep the premium high.

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    19. Re:The iWatch by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 3, Funny

      i can't wait for apple to invent the watch and sue those swiss copycats into oblivion.

    20. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      schweet! I want one already

    21. Re:The iWatch by arisvega · · Score: 2

      Like that, but with fewer buttons and way more expensive.

      And with the usual ridiculous patent claims.

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    22. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple products, like them or hate them, have industry-leading battery life. I don't think they'll put out a watch if they can't make it reasonable.

    23. Re:The iWatch by DFurno2003 · · Score: 0
    24. Re:The iWatch by GNious · · Score: 1

      Not envious - no, not at aaaaall envious...

      *grumbles incoherently*

    25. Re:The iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was actually easier for me to type that url than it was for me to copy and paste it in safari....

    26. Re:The iWatch by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      And rounded corners.

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    27. Re:The iWatch by Quila · · Score: 1

      And it'll be the first one the average person actually likes to use.

      Other comments about the Pebble around here show why, with descriptions such as "rudimentary." If Apple does this, it'll be expensive and locked in for sure, but it'll be the first one that really works seamlessly.

    28. Re:The iWatch by Aqualung812 · · Score: 1

      Allow me to help you with communicating in the 21st century:

      1. Send email.
      2. If deadline approaches, resend email.
      3. If response can no longer wait, use SMS/Chat/Phone Call

      I find that I don't have to get to #3 that often, but I waste much less of my time and everyone else's time by not making them stop what they are doing to respond to me THIS SECOND.

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    29. Re:The iWatch by alleycat0 · · Score: 1
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    30. Re:The iWatch by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Allow me to help you with communicating in the 21st century:

      1. Send email.
      2. If deadline approaches, resend email.
      3. If response can no longer wait, use SMS/Chat/Phone Call

      I find that I don't have to get to #3 that often, but I waste much less of my time and everyone else's time by not making them stop what they are doing to respond to me THIS SECOND.

      SMS can take ten minutes to arrive... So in the case of someone saying he may have to respond to an email IMMEDIATELY, SMS is no good either!!!

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    31. Re:The iWatch by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      add in spam filtering and its unreliable.

      When properly done, spam filtering doesn't make mail unreliable. Sender gets a bounce if his mail doesn't get through, so he will know what's going on, and to retry.

      Greylisting is one of THE most effective anti spam techniques.

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  2. I Knew It by longbot · · Score: 4, Funny

    The return of the iPod Nano!

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    1. Re:I Knew It by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      The touchscreen nano is a decent size for a watch; if it could use wireless headphones it might be an interesting proposition.

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    2. Re:I Knew It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure there were wristbands for it.

    3. Re:I Knew It by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      The current ipod nano with six icons on the screen would make a great phone. Possibly good enough for me to buy an iphone.

    4. Re:I Knew It by cygnwolf · · Score: 1

      yes, but it most notably lacks bluetooth support, Sure, you can get a dongle, but that starts to get clunky in a watch situation. Oh, and all of the phone bits too. And apps. Those would be very interesting to see in one that size...

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    5. Re:I Knew It by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      As long as it also had more space than a Nomad.

    6. Re:I Knew It by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The Pebble has "7+ days" battery life, largely due to not having a power hungry touch screen. If you look at a typical phone 90% of the power is split between mobile network standby and the screen, neither of which the Pebble has.

      It looks interesting but I think Glass will be more a practical and useful device.

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  3. Uh, oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple won't be able to blame any malfunctions on "holding it wrong."

    1. Re:Uh, oh... by TheP4st · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You underestimate them.

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    2. Re:Uh, oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're wearing it wrong" will be the new joke then.

  4. Will it display the time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it display the time?

    1. Re:Will it display the time? by scuzzlebutt · · Score: 1

      Yes, Dick Tracy!

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    2. Re:Will it display the time? by fermion · · Score: 1
      One reason that Apple was able to take over the market was because they realized that there is a large number of customers that don't really care if their mobile device is nor a great phone. This seems counter intuitive, but a lot of people predicted that the iPhone would fail because it was a bad phone. History has told the real story. Even with Android Phones I see people buying them because they have a HDMI output, not really because of the quality of phone or ease of use.

      So I assume that watches are going to be no different. As mentioned, it could be something like the iPad nano. What is likely going to the killer feature is connection to an iPhone or iPod for caller id, bluetooth speaker and microphone, viewing new mail, and the like.

      If you look at the watch market, the watch is hardly the killer feature in sales. A watch is piece of jewlery that happens to markt he time. Very few people buy a watch primarily to know the time. This was even before a phone was a more reliable time keeping device than a watch.

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    3. Re:Will it display the time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "Tracy" part was superfluous.

    4. Re:Will it display the time? by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      A watch is piece of jewlery that happens to markt he time. Very few people buy a watch primarily to know the time. This was even before a phone was a more reliable time keeping device than a watch.

      It would be funny if Apple went along with what their critics accuse them of -- selling fashion statements rather than technology -- and just put out a really nice watch that's purely mechanical. I'll admit, if they did it, I might buy one if it was elegant and well made.

      I hope they do something other than put out a souped up nano with a strap. If they get real creative and do something unique it might pique my interest, but I'm not holding my breath.

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    5. Re:Will it display the time? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Im wearing a mechanical self winding watch. A very nice Seiko. I would not want to spoil it with electronic parts.

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  5. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by kthreadd · · Score: 1

    Becuase you may be interested.

  6. It has a touchscreen by naroom · · Score: 5, Funny

    With only one button on it. The button says "PAY".

    1. Re:It has a touchscreen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, i'm just going to wait for my google glasses and google car since those will obviously be free since google is a non-profit organization.

    2. Re:It has a touchscreen by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      Metrosexual man, the single young man with a high disposable income, living or working in the city (because thatâ(TM)s where all the best shops are), is perhaps the most promising consumer market of the decade. In the Eighties he was only to be found inside fashion magazines such as GQ, in television advertisements for Levi's jeans or in gay bars. In the Nineties, heâ(TM)s everywhere and heâ(TM)s going shopping.

      And he's wearing a watch.

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    3. Re:It has a touchscreen by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Metrosexual man, In the Nineties, heâ(TM)s everywhere and heâ(TM)s going shopping.

      And he's wearing a watch.

      Dood, it's 2013, who else do you think could have designed the Windows 8's Metrosexual interface interface?

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  7. Dick Tracy anybody? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His special watch (a "portent of things to come") - in fact, that's EXACTLY the reference I use when speaking to peers (since youngsters may NOT remember this since they're possibly not old enough to get the reference) about modern computing appliances...

    Tablets & such (whatever represents the SMALLER stuff out there now that's 'trendy', that is)...?

    No, it's NOT the "end all/be all" - this WILL be though, as far as external devices folks use/wear (the Dick Tracy watch)... especially once they get holography down better/pat, etc./et al!

    APK

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    ... apk

  8. Oh, the irony! by newcastlejon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

    I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

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    1. Re:Oh, the irony! by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I stopped wearing a watch outside of work recently, for the same reason. However, no one is allowed to bring cell phones, 2-way pager, cameras, or anything that can transmit or connect to a computer. So I wear a simple Casio watch to work and typically take it off when I get home. I'd love to go to a smart watch like Pebble that can connect to my phone, display alerts, play music, etc however I couldn't wear it to work.

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    2. Re:Oh, the irony! by cmseagle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most anyone who works in a somewhat formal environment. Pulling out your cellphone to check the time looks unprofessional.

    3. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joggers/runners.

      Now please get off my lawn, but be sure to stay in the slow side of the sidewalk or you'll get run over by someone wearing a watch.

    4. Re:Oh, the irony! by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Pulling out your cellphone to check the time looks unprofessional.

      Wake up, man! Thats just what Rolex want you to think! :P

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    5. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      Right. Because fishing around in my inside jacket pocket, extracting my phone, figuring out which way is "up" and then pressing the button to wake up the screen to check the time and then put it back again is just soooooo much more convenient than glancing down at the watch on my wrist... I'll keep my Rolex. It makes me happy, and it cost more than the car you were conceived in, to boot.

    6. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my job i am required to have immediate access to the time, down to the second. A mobile phone just doesn't cut it.

    7. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming you know what everyone's doing based simply on appearances is unprofessional.

    8. Re:Oh, the irony! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If you a) don't drive everywhere and b) it gets cold where you live then you don't want to be undoing your overcoat and ferreting around in your pockets when you could just push your sleeve up a bit.

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    9. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking of getting a watch again since I got a Windows phone from work... because Windows Phone 8 keeps the screen 100 % blank when locked, and there is no option to keep even the time on screen. It gets pretty annoying to have to press a button to wake up the phone just to check what time it is.

    10. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unprofessional only in the same way that white, unembossed business cards are unprofessional. Would you say an executive who wore a cheap Casio also looked unprofessional compared to the exec next to him/her with a gold-plated arm ornament?

      Professionalism is in the eye of the beholder, and when I see an expensive watch I think "more money than sense". One can argue about how many smartphones are overpriced toys, but at least they do something more than tell the damn time.

    11. Re:Oh, the irony! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Years ago, I purchased an expensive watch. WHY? Because I discouvered that over the years I had spent that much on a series of CHEAP watches that I would eventually break, or they would simply give up working.

      In 1990, I paid $1500 for a nice watch. It still works today, 23 years later, and I expect I will own it until I die.

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    12. Re:Oh, the irony! by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Finally got fed up of that Disorganiser, eh Vimes?

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    13. Re:Oh, the irony! by paiute · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      Ten years from now: "I stopped carrying a cell phone in my pocket years ago because I can just speak to my wearable device to make a call."

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    14. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I'll keep my Rolex. It makes me happy, and it cost more than the car you were conceived in, to boot.

      You should sell it, then maybe you could move out from under your mom's bridge.

    15. Re:Oh, the irony! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I stopped wearing a watch outside of work recently, for the same reason. However, no one is allowed to bring cell phones, 2-way pager, cameras, or anything that can transmit or connect to a computer. So I wear a simple Casio watch to work and typically take it off when I get home. I'd love to go to a smart watch like Pebble that can connect to my phone, display alerts, play music, etc however I couldn't wear it to work.

      They let someone wearing a simple Casio watch into a high-security environment?

    16. Re:Oh, the irony! by Salo2112 · · Score: 1

      I enjoy long walks - for exercise and stress release. I don't want to be in communication with anyone, but I do want to know roughly how far I have walked and when I should be heading back in, and for this, a watch is perfect.

    17. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      I did the same thing as you, but regret it, and now I'm in the market for a new watch.

      Getting the phone out of my pocket is inconvenient. We've learned this lesson before, when we switched from pocket watches to wrist watches. It's especially annoying to not own a watch when go out on a run.

    18. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mabie you hadn't noticed, But people started using watches becuase they found pulling pocket watches from their pockets inconvienient.
      Oh the irony indeed.

    19. Re:Oh, the irony! by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      What goes around comes around. I just wish that flares would come back into fashion.

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    20. Re:Oh, the irony! by dontbemad · · Score: 1

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      I'm pretty sure those kinds of people are the ones apple is going to try to appeal to with this: The kind who wear watches for fashion more so than functionality.

    21. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped wearing a watch and used the phone, because it's more polite to pretend you're checking something on your phone, than checking the time because you're bored to death.

    22. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking a quick peek at the cheap Casio looks much more sleek than digging through your pockets to pull out your iPhone.

    23. Re:Oh, the irony! by Threni · · Score: 1

      Hideous digital watches never go out of fashion. That is to say, all digital watches look hideous. There's nothing stylish and/or attractive about black plastic rectangles on your wrist.

    24. Re:Oh, the irony! by antdude · · Score: 1

      I still don't own a mobile phone since I am disabled with speech and hearing impediments and can't hold things. However, I do wear and use a Casio calculator watch. It would be nice to have a small and light watch that is like a smartphone.

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    25. Re:Oh, the irony! by Pulzar · · Score: 2

      Professionalism is in the eye of the beholder, and when I see an expensive watch I think "more money than sense".

      You're only hurting yourself by jumping to such conclusions. There is no way that you can accurately estimate the price of the watch you see on someone's arm. More often than not, expensive-looking watches are anything but.

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    26. Re:Oh, the irony! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      well, if your car breaks down, just pull over to a safe area on the road and put on your emergency blinkers.

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    27. Re:Oh, the irony! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      this is VERY generational.

      I'm middle age and I consider it rude to pull out your phone while we are in a meeting (even just lunch); but if you are 20's and 30's age, its COMMON to see people checking their phones every 15 mins or so. people will sit at tables and stare at their phones and poke at it, even when there's another person in their party across from them.

      more and more, the younger generation's ways will be commonplace and accepted.

      would I check my phone if in a meeting with a ceo? probably not. but if its regular people, I might.

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    28. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      Checking the time with a watch*:

      1. Twist wrist.
      2. Look down.

      Checking the time with a smartphone:

      1. Fish phone out of pocket.
      2. Look down.
      3. Press button to wake up phone's display.
      4. Pray battery is not empty.

      Then, add in the need to remember to charge the phone every chance you get (HINT: The lifespan of a watch battery is typically measured in YEARS, not HOURS), factor in cold weather, other crap in your pockets, the commonness of water-resistant watches compared to water-resistant smartphones, and the fact that "fish phone out of pocket" is not an equivalent-as-in-effort step to "twist wrist", and I'll keep wearing my trusty little Casio watch, thank you very much.

      *: A real watch, not some art student bullshit watch that only shows the time if you wave your hand in front of it a certain way, or only if you press a certain combination of buttons, or only if you dance a whimsical little jig before it works. Note, of course, there are some art student bullshit watches that display the time in an entirely tactile fashion, removing the need to even look down.

    29. Re:Oh, the irony! by solios · · Score: 1

      I've worn a watch once in the last four years.

      While my phone was being serviced!

    30. Re:Oh, the irony! by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      Hideous digital watches never go out of fashion. That is to say, all digital watches look hideous. There's nothing stylish and/or attractive about black plastic rectangles on your wrist.

      I agree. I remember during the '04 election I distinctly distrusted John Edwards for two reasons:

      1) He was an ambulance chaser

      2) He wore a digital watch

      Anyone with that much money who doesn't realize how absurd a digital watch looks obviously lacks common sense. As we all know, a scandal revealed this to be true of Edwards.

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    31. Re:Oh, the irony! by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      And if you're 40's or older, glancing at your watch or even a wall clock during a conversation is rude too. It's the same message ("What time is it? This conversation is lasting forever.").

    32. Re:Oh, the irony! by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      I'm used to wearing a watch. It's easier than fishing the phone out of my pocket, but I don't have any of the good reasons others have given, I'm just used to being able to see the time easily.

      It isn't a matter of fashion, it's a slightly ugly Casio because I like gadgets and this is waterproof, has a compass and thermometer. But even without the gadgets I'd still expect to see the time and date just by looking at my wrist.

    33. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I work, the rooms have clocks.

    34. Re:Oh, the irony! by Moofie · · Score: 1

      No, it's not.

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    35. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything, I would be more inclined to trust a candidate if s/he wore a digital watch. A digital watch tells you the time, at a glance and most have stopwatch functions and more built in. It is a no-bullshit timepiece. And I've never heard of someone's digital watch being stolen.

      Compare that to a Gaudy Gold Analog Watch (GGAW), which makes you play a puzzle mini-game to determine the time. Compare the positions of the two hands! Whoops! Watch out! Different hands move at different speeds! Is it 12:30 AM or 12:30 PM? Up to you!!

      Analog watches are only good for impressing shallow people and telling the time after an EMP blast.

    36. Re:Oh, the irony! by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I've worn a watch once in the last four years.

      Me too, and I'm still wearing it.

    37. Re:Oh, the irony! by BooMonster · · Score: 1

      I expect one of the popular features will be an analog face.

      Personally, I would expect the watch to be an IPhone with no touchscreen, with all interactions through Siri.

    38. Re:Oh, the irony! by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Or, you buy ones that are a year or so out of fashion at a massive discount. My Seiko was $150, IIRC, and that was a huge discount off the price when that model was current. Plus, since they tend to last forever, nobody realizes that I got a really good deal on it.

    39. Re:Oh, the irony! by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Indeed, that's why I generally glance at other people's watches during meetings, it's much less likely that anybody will figure out what's going on.

      Also, it's astonishing how many people make those sorts of claims, like the GP, about young folks when it's those young folks parents who apparently failed to instill the values that they're then bitching about young people not having.

    40. Re:Oh, the irony! by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Is that page serious? When did our government cross the line into bats**t crazy territory? That actually makes Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks seem sane and reasonable.

      In fact, it reads like a classic example of how a statement does not prove its converse—all terrorists are people who wear Casio watches, therefore all people who wear Casio watches are terrorists. It's the sort of fundamentally faulty logic that would cause you to fail 10th grade math, assuming you even made it that far.

      Wow. Just. Wow.

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    41. Re:Oh, the irony! by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Speaking of bringing back digital watches, I really hope Apple makes rumoured device go 'beep' on the hour, every hour. Especially in the middle of the night. I really miss that.

      Of course, a simple beep just won't do in this century. Think of the possibilities! It could go 'dong!' or 'cuckoo!', maybe some creepy theremin, or something you paid $2 for on iTunes.

      And just think how many times you've gone longer than one hour without remembering to check Facebook. That could be a thing of the past.

    42. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1990, I paid $1500 for a nice watch. It still works today, 23 years later, and I expect I will own it until I die.

      Or you could have spent $50 every year on a new watch and still be quids-in.

      Unfortunately, spending vast amounts of money is no guarantee of longevity. Parts wear, gaskets corrode. Why do you think services such as TAG Heuer parts replacement exist?

    43. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      Lots of people.

    44. Re:Oh, the irony! by router · · Score: 1

      Watch? Old person or fashionista.
      Talk on cell phone? Old person or poor.

      I'm sure there are exceptions, but first impression.

    45. Re:Oh, the irony! by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1

      I'd be interested to know how many people still wear a watch as anything more than a big piece of jewellery.

      More than enough for Swatch group to report sales in 2012 totalling 8.14bn Swiss francs ($9bn; £5.6bn), up 14% from 2011.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20968837

      Personally I have a watch because it is far more convenient, discrete and (in the case of some activities) safer to check the time by turning your wrist and glancing than it is to dig out your phone, orientate it the right way, press the power button and look down.

      I wouldn't advocate big gaudy oversized watches, but there are plenty of midrange ones out there that look good with whatever style of clothes you are wearing (even a suit) and don't have to be charged every night to be useful.

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    46. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You hit the nail right on the head. The watch has become pretty much only a fashion item. Pioneered by the "disposable" watches from Swatch which were fashionable and priced to be wearable for a year then stuffed in a drawer. As a result there are now a billion watches produced every year.

      Accuracy has long not been the reason to wear a watch. The high end has been this way since the advent of quartz. Even now a really good high end watch has an acceptable loss rate of 4-7 seconds per 24 hours. a quartz watch will lose maybe that much per month.

      For men the fashion aspect is particularly true. Men in general don't wear that much jewelry and the watch is our only "manly" way of wearing jewelry. A wrist mounted computer might work, if it becomes acceptable to have your jewelry-watch on one wrist, and your functional watch on the other. But if you see a dude with two watches on right now he better be a pilot.

    47. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

      My watch is a pocket watch, you insensitive clod!

    48. Re:Oh, the irony! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Now one one hand the whole thing seems ridiculous, but when I first read about that I tried hard to come up with a good explanation. The only one I could come up with is what if you channeled some goods into someone's hands a little ahead of when the market got them, a whole bunch all the same, and then waited to see who they distributed them to as a reward of some kind...

      That in no way justifies imprisoning someone strictly because they wore a certain kind of watch. But I can see how there could be more to the story.

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    49. Re:Oh, the irony! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And if you're 40's or older, glancing at your watch or even a wall clock during a conversation is rude too. It's the same message ("What time is it? This conversation is lasting forever.").

      I'm only 30s and I still consider that rude. But the nice thing about a watch is that you can quickly catch a glance while the other party is looking at something else. If need be, you can knock a fork off the table...

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    50. Re:Oh, the irony! by peragrin · · Score: 1

      funny since 1990 I have owned 4 watches each one costing $20.

      So i spent $80 on watches you spent $1500 at current rate of use in 20 years I will have spent less than 10% of what you did for the same functionality(probably more since I buy a watch that can do more than just tell time)

      Which one of us is an idiot again? which one of us wasted money on a watch?

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    51. Re:Oh, the irony! by kimvette · · Score: 2

      Well, in general we are ape-descended life forms who are amazingly primitive that we still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea...

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    52. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are not talking about discounted prices. We are talking about 10-30k automatic watches worn as status symbols. Those don't get discounted.

      And I wholehartedly agree with the comments on professional working environments. Looking at your smartphone to check time looks very cheap. Does not matter if it is practical, and whether spending 20k on a watch that might easily break makes sense. That's the simple fact of life in business management - image is everything.

    53. Re:Oh, the irony! by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I work for power attorneys and captains of industry. Nobody really gives a shit anymore. It's all about how you carry yourself. If you look at your watch during a meeting, it is just as bad as looking at your cell phone. In reality, my clients are looking at their phones whenever an email or call pops in. But then, they're paying.

    54. Re:Oh, the irony! by Ksevio · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well I've been getting $20-$40 watches about every 5 years, so I think I'll still come out ahead as long as I don't live more than a couple centuries.

    55. Re:Oh, the irony! by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Me. My mechanical watch tells me the time. I know exactly what time it is and all these people that are always late for my meetings be damned...

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    56. Re:Oh, the irony! by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

      You are missing the point. My mechanical watch tells me exactly what time it is and it allows me to pick on everybody else at my meetings for being late and I don't care what time their phones say it is. Meetings start according to my watch...

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    57. Re:Oh, the irony! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Anyone with that much money who doesn't realize how absurd a digital watch looks obviously lacks common sense.

      As a person who has suffered his whole life with dysanalogwatchhandsia, I claim that there are good reasons for wearing digital watches rather than the analog ones. My brain works naturally with numbers in the range of [0,24), not with angles in the range of [0, 360).

      Anyone with that much money who doesn't realize how absurd a digital watch looks obviously lacks common sense.

      That's a non sequitur, if I've ever seen one. And not even the premise is true!

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    58. Re:Oh, the irony! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      its COMMON to see people checking their phones every 15 mins or so

      This suggests that phones need a better way of notifying people that they won't miss, negating the need to manually poll the display every 15 minutes.

      Many Android phones have an LED that flashes periodically when there are unchecked notifications. Perhaps they could also vibrate periodically in case you miss it the first time.

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    59. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prisons typically limit what kind of devices can be introduced into facility. So far no prohibition of personal time pieces in places I have worked, but other items listed above are considered contraband

    60. Re:Oh, the irony! by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      They let someone wearing a simple Casio watch into a high-security environment?

      Crap, I have several Casio watches ... apparently that makes me a security risk.

      I mean, they're rugged durable watches, especially a G-Shock -- nobody would ever want one as a time piece they don't worry about breaking or anything, right?

      If people are being arrested and detained based on owning a Casio watch, that's kinda scary. Because when I travel I usually have about 4 or 5 of them.

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    61. Re:Oh, the irony! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      'G-shock', eh? Concerned about the effects of explosive overpressure on your timepieces are we? Now, how about you come with me and we'll have a little talk about why that might be...

    62. Re:Oh, the irony! by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      In formal environments, you used to pull out your pocketwatch. Then WWI happened, and wristwatches became the style. Now we have cellphones, and they keep accurate time. How is pulling a cellphone out of your pocket any different than pulling out a pocketwatch?

      Having a cellphone is now the social norm. Keeping a specialized device strapped to your wrist and insisting that such a thing is more formal is starting to sound a bit like the guy complaining about the new wrist watch fashion.

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    63. Re:Oh, the irony! by RoTNCoRE · · Score: 1

      I wear a simple titanium analogue dive watch, with a solar face. Pulling out your phone mid conversation or in a meeting is a social faux pas for me and it is easier to be discrete with a watch. A watch is also significantly more durable and water resistant, and doesn't require plugging in every day or two. The watch is still the best tool for the job for me. Yes, if forced I could get by with a phone, but will not get rid of a wristwatch with a battery measured in years that can be submerged.

    64. Re:Oh, the irony! by cmseagle · · Score: 1
      Pocketwatches went out of style because wristwatches were more convenient. Wristwatches were traditionally worn by women, until soldiers in WWI realized that it was impractical to have to dig through your pockets to check the time. This argument still holds against the cellphone. I started wearing a watch after cellphones became a popular accessory, and I'd never go back. I really do find that it's nice to have the time strapped to my wrist.

      Then there's the social aspect. Older generations wear watches, and associate pulling out a cellphone to check the time with teenagers and young people. Maybe once they've retired and are replaced by the younger generation a cellphone will be seen as on-par with a wristwatch.

    65. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... because I can just speak to my wearable device to make a call."

      al la Dick Tracy.

    66. Re:Oh, the irony! by bobaferret · · Score: 1

      NOt that this makes it any better, but this was the only quote that sorta made the whole thing make sense..... and I use that term very very lightly....

      "The detainee was arrested with a specific model Casio watch that is given to graduates of Al Farouq."

    67. Re:Oh, the irony! by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Why should I fumble in my pocket, try to pull out my phone without pulling out my keys and some spare change I dropped in there, when I can just glance at my wrist to see the time?

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    68. Re:Oh, the irony! by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it's easy to glance at my watch without the other person noticing.

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    69. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me, too. However, if this thing has a phone built in, so that I can just use a BT headset, I'm going to start wearing the watch and get rid of the phone in my pocket.

    70. Re:Oh, the irony! by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I sincerely doubt this. You have to position your arm correctly, and time your furtive glance for when they're looking away. You'll be spending so much mental power readying yourself to secretly find out what time it is that you'd be better off just ending the conversation early and politely.

    71. Re:Oh, the irony! by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      I wear a watch with luminous markings on the face when I'm stalking people at night. I can clearly tell the time, but it doesn't give my position away. A bright cell phone would clearly alert my potential victim to my location. Or perhaps more likely, I could check the time in a theater without bothering everyone around me.

    72. Re:Oh, the irony! by spyfrog · · Score: 1

      If I ever end up in a war I will take you up on this advice and start to wear a wristwatch. However, in the meantime I will do fine with the mobile phone. There isn't a lack of clocks around you today. You have one on your computer desktop. Every meeting room that we have has an clock. So I simply don't need to even take out my mobile.

    73. Re:Oh, the irony! by spyfrog · · Score: 1

      Please let me assure you that almost everyone notice that you glance on your watch to....
      Also, I don't see this social problem with checking our mobile - that is common where I work. And we have an high median age on our workforce.

    74. Re:Oh, the irony! by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      If it were a particular model of gold Rolex, that might have some credibility. But it's a Casio watch that costs $8.22 from Amazon and has been in continuous production for more than two decades. Probably half the under-ten children in America own this watch. Slight exaggeration, but not much of one.

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    75. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i used to wear a watch exactly like that when i was 12.

      brb. some men in suits just showed up at my door.

    76. Re:Oh, the irony! by Common+Joe · · Score: 1

      I wear a watch so that I can discretely look at the time. People can wrongfully (or rightfully) assume that I'm bored with them and I don't want to give that impression.

    77. Re:Oh, the irony! by strikethree · · Score: 1

      You are ahead price-wise, granted, but are you ahead satisfaction-wise? I only own one cheap casio g shock watch and i never even wear it, but to some people, a nice watch brings a certain satisfaction when it looks nice with their suits and is reliable.

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    78. Re:Oh, the irony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if I need to record some important note in my mobile device calendar or TODO organizer? In fact, it is very common for people to record important thing in their mobile device.
      As for the age, maybe I am from Asia country. I have a manager who happily check his email on iPhone while vendor presenting. At last, all of us are waiting for his closing speech when the presentation is over (He is still busy reading the email)...
      Another scenario will be a sub committee chairman who happily use his iPad while some representative are presenting...
      both are definately over 40...

  9. rumors... by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    Recently we've been getting some unlikely apple rumors....AppleTV.......watch device......

    What this really means is Apple has started fighting leaks by leaking false rumors. That's what I think this comes from.

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    1. Re:rumors... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      According to MacWorld, Apple critics are all just jealous, mis-informed and or paranoid...

      Dan Moren, senior editor of Macworld, talked tech with cofounder of gdgt Ryan Block, Wired staff writer Christina Bonnington, Ars Technica editor Jacqui Cheng and tech blogger John Gruber.

      In their eyes, Apple’s critics were misinformed, jealous and/or paranoid.

      “People like the underdog,” Bonnington said. “People just cut Apple down because it’s in the headlines all the time.

      http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13995624-apple-rumors-postmacworld

  10. making displays more power-efficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    e-ink. True it cant do multimedia, but its real efficient, and more than enough for many people.

    1. Re:making displays more power-efficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, but updating the screen is slow. It will probably get better as the technology matures though.

      The Pebble watch, by the way, no matter how much they insist on calling it "e-paper", is using a SHARP Memory LCD.
      Basically it's an ordinary monocrome LCD, but each pixel can remember its state and keep it while not having to be refreshed more than once every second. This makes for a screen that can display complex animation (in monochrome), and still draw about as much power as your old Game & Watch.

      Advantage of the monocrome screen of course is that it is eminently readably without backlight, even though it has one.

      Once they start making good reflective colour memory LCD-screens we will most likely see some dramatic advances in the smart-watch market.

    2. Re:making displays more power-efficient by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      It isn't slow, and wouldn't be for a small display like that. They've made eInk displays of similar size that played full motion video.

  11. As with all Apple rumors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only time will tell...

    1. Re:As with all Apple rumors... by jjoelc · · Score: 1

      So much for timeless design

  12. just had a creepy thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wonder how many flops the average apple fanboy will have in home or on person in 5 years to unknowingly offer some random botnet somewhere.

  13. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by clarkkent09 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because everything Apple does is super important! Even a rumor about them possibly thinking about making a gadget that 100 other companies are also working on is important enough to get an immediate front page on Slashdot.

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  14. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because it's news for nerds, and it's stuff that matters.

  15. iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should register this trademark quickly.

    1. Re:iWatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG electronics beat us all to it

      http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4006:iz51m6.4.1

  16. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by theVarangian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And I should give a rat's ass...because???

    Actually you do give a rat's, you posted a message. If you truly didn't give a rat's ass you would have skipped over this story without posting

  17. Watch on time by ColdCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple was so good with daylight saving and news years alarms calculation that a apple watch is certainly a good idea.

  18. Brilliant... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...now we have to look forward to all the Apple fanbois claiming that Apple invented the wrist watch.

  19. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Quite simply, this device will change everything. You no longer have to go through the hassle of going outside to observe your sundial, or look at the desk or the wall in order to make time based decisions.

    You can now simply look at your wrist. It's amazing.

  20. The problem is... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem is:

    A) The display

    B) The interface

    The closest Apple has come to a watch is the iPod Nano (6th gen) which had a whole host of problems, namely that the screen (and therefore the interface) was tiny. Assuming the Nano 6th gen as a template in size, what functions of my smartphone could that easily replace? Music playback would work, but not videos, nor would web or messaging work all that well. I suppose a game or two might not be too bad. But other than that I'm at a loss as to what it could have that my smartphone has. Streaming music perhaps? But really, the screen is going to be too tiny to be usable.

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    1. Re:The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm at a loss as to what it could have

      NFC proximity unlocking of your smartphone and/or laptop for one. And before you complain that someone can steal your watch, it's not that hard to put a pressure sensor in the back so it knows when it's been taken off your wrist. Of all the consumer electronics companies out today, I'd trust Apple to get something like this right.

    2. Re:The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps making phone calls is one of it's target features.

    3. Re:The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a nice leather watch band for the nano 6th-gen and attempted to use it as a watch for a few weeks: your comments are spot on. The screen is too small to interact with or display meaningful content, yet wayyyy too big to look non-stupid sitting on your wrist.

      Perhaps some sort of flip screen?

    4. Re:The problem is... by BooMonster · · Score: 1

      Small time display. Full Siri integration. Maybe even no display. "Siri, what time is it?"

    5. Re:The problem is... by m00sh · · Score: 1

      But other than that I'm at a loss as to what it could have that my smartphone has.

      The answer is possibly a fitness gadget. With the advent of ANT+ and sensors, it would be a pedometer, a GPS based walk or run information recording device like Garmin Forerunner and Motorola Motoactv and possibly apps about calories and food and so on, sleep patterns recorder and whatever other sensors that could record on the state of the human body.

    6. Re:The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You won't use the screen for anything needing more than a click or two, for example you will use an iPhone to configure it. The watch will do basic functions only, time, answer / hang, music tracks, etc.

    7. Re:The problem is... by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      I know Apple has sold a lot of iPhones, but why would you limit the target audience of a watch device to only people with an iPhone? This watch device sounds iffy to me to begin with, I can't imagine that Apple would want to limit the pool of potential buyers at all by requiring an iPhone to configure it.

  21. I hope they do, and there are many copycats by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    I don't wear wristwatches because I am hairy, but I would like a pocketwatch-formfactor MID running Android. Gingerbread would be OK, and QVGA even, as long as it has at least a 2MP camera.

    I looked at iPod Nano even though it is made by Apple but it is just too fragile and getting it coated for liquid resistance is just too expensive.

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    1. Re:I hope they do, and there are many copycats by necro81 · · Score: 1

      I would like a pocketwatch-formfactor MID running Android

      Not a bad idea. However, it's tough to find circular LCD screens. A circular touchscreen, even more so.

    2. Re:I hope they do, and there are many copycats by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Circular LCD and OLED screens are becoming more common, but rectangular or square would be fine with me. My pocket isn't circular, anyway.

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    3. Re:I hope they do, and there are many copycats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 vote on the pocketwatch form factor. Getting the watch off my wrist and into my pocket 15 years ago was true liberation.

      Hey, it's a natural fit for a tiny clamshell phone as well. Do one of these in solid metal / glass like a true pocketwatch, and I'd be first in line.

  22. Pebble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how this will play against Pebble. I am currently waiting for mine.

    -B

  23. summary incorrect by wbr1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It should read "Apple working on likable device that watches you (better). "

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  24. Purpose of the watch is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Counting down until Eric Schidt departs Google.

    1. Re:Purpose of the watch is... by daniel23 · · Score: 1

      They either need some classified source of info for this or they're going to bur the srenn as it shows -1 all the time

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  25. Like Dick Tracy, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In honor of its comic predecessor, the device will be called iDick. The humorous trademark-infringing Chinese knockoff will be called iPud.

  26. Lela! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it was Siri Lela had on her wrist thingy. No wonder she barely ever uses it :)

  27. I called it! by Ken_g6 · · Score: 2

    "Apple needs to move on to a new form factor"

    I hope I didn't start this rumor. It seems like a logical thing to do, but I had no evidence they were doing it.

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  28. Paywalled!!! by icebike · · Score: 1

    If it was really for nerds, would they have cited a pay-walled article?

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    1. Re:Paywalled!!! by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Nerds want everything for free?

    2. Re:Paywalled!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do. It's not going to happen though.

  29. Smokescreen? by goruka · · Score: 1

    The concept seems pretty useless to me, given that your cellphone is almost equally as accessible nowadays. Maybe they are letting out these rumors to force their competition to re-focus their R&D in something useless and make them waste money ant time? The idea of the Apple TV screen kind of rings of the same.

    1. Re:Smokescreen? by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      I dunno. An Apple TV (screen, not set top box) would be a massive hit IMO. All they need to do is make the UI simple and integrated seamlessly with peripherals. My tech-phobic parents absolutely HATE having umpteen random remote controls sitting around (TV, DVD, STB blah blah) and can't wrap their head around the concept of switching between inputs etc. There's a lot of people like that. A magical box that replaces all that current junk and is dead easy to use would be hugely successful.

  30. Sony makes an Android watch ... by kbahey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony already makes an Android watch, the SmartWatch ...

    But this will be Apple's ... Ooooh ... Shiny ...

    1. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by theVarangian · · Score: 1

      Sony already makes an Android watch, the SmartWatch ...

      But this will be Apple's ... Ooooh ... Shiny ...

      Does it come with a root kit? ... Ooooh ... free software ...

    2. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      sony watch: every time its about to strike midnight, it checks the DRM database to see if you're allowed to know the date has changed.

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    3. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      Sony already makes an Android watch, the SmartWatch ...

      But this will be Apple's ... Ooooh ... Shiny ...

      The biggest difference is that I've heard of this non-existent iWatch but I've never heard of Sony's watch. Thanks for the link, though, I'd actually like to check on of those out, just out of curiosity.

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    4. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical Android manufacturers, they are growing so bold now that they don't even wait for Apple to build a device to copy it :(

    5. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Sony already makes an Android watch, the SmartWatch ...

      But this will be Apple's ... Ooooh ... Shiny ...

      I bet Apple are already briefing the lawyers on how it infringes their patents

    6. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      > but I've never heard of Sony's watch

      Probably because the media has such a hard-on for Apple, they write a front page article any time someone at apple burps.

    7. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by bobaferret · · Score: 1

      It's got rounded corners!! Sony is so screwed....

    8. Re:Sony makes an Android watch ... by nightfury · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I hadn't heard of the Sony one, either, but I did pay a bit of attention to options presented at CES.

  31. Some functions of a smartphone... by chronokitsune3233 · · Score: 1

    Point-to-point contact? Is my childhood dream of a real Power Rangers communicator watch-like device finally coming true?! Meh. Don't care. Not a kid anymore.

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    1. Re:Some functions of a smartphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point-to-point contact? Is my childhood dream of a real Power Rangers communicator watch-like device finally coming true?! Meh. Don't care. Not a kid anymore.

      Still a kid to us, tyke. We had our OWN fictional point-to-point wrist communication devices growin' up! And Dick Tracy had 'em! He didn't even have to put on a silly outfit and dance around like an idiot to use the thing!

    2. Re:Some functions of a smartphone... by chronokitsune3233 · · Score: 1

      Okay, admittedly, the few Dick Tracy comics I got to read were pretty awesome. That's some real good stuff there. No superpowers or thousand-dollar gadgets. Just good old-fashioned using the old noggin. I gotta say that I wish things were like that, minus the actual crimes of course. I guess detectives changed with the times, just like the crimes...

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    3. Re:Some functions of a smartphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the iware device will also teleport you to the hidden mac store, steve jobs' chamber to which you will only see his floating head.
      you can also review your mistakes and current troubles in the iscry after directed by iOmega. (the name / company would have been bought out by then, to avoid any confusion by hungry fans.

    4. Re:Some functions of a smartphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the iware device will also teleport you to the hidden mac store, steve jobs' chamber to which you will only see his floating head.
      you can also review your mistakes and current troubles in the iscry after directed by iOmega. (the name / company would have been bought out by then, to avoid any confusion by hungry fans.

      iwear rather

  32. Difficult to patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prior art:
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--ZkMPJMfWl0/UITyARxb--I/AAAAAAAAAhA/dF58FFm6HX4/s1600/dicktracy.jpg

  33. Re:summary incorrect by chronokitsune3233 · · Score: 1

    We're not in Soviet Russia, though... "In Soviet Russia, Apple watch you!" Hmm...then again, maybe we are?!

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  34. Much better read by b1ng0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Tog has a better take on the iWatch: http://asktog.com/atc/apple-iwatch/

  35. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    because this may be the next big thing Samsung copies.

  36. Project iGlass by Kostic · · Score: 1

    "[...]the Taiwan-based company has been working to address the challenges of making displays more power-efficient and working with chip manufacturers to strip down their products[...]" Hm... Maybe they are building iGlasses. Hipsters gonna like that.

  37. Buzz Lightyear to Star Command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you read me?

  38. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to mention that dozens of these are already on the market, some specific to the Android world, some rather generic.
    Sony has bluetooth Smartwatches and LiveView watchs that let you check email, messages, etc without taking the phone out of your pocket.
    These are peripherals for your phone.

    There are also full phones that actually seems to get good reviews. Some of these are actually fairly inexpensive.

    But, hey, if Apple makes it and charges $596, they will sell millions because it will be the best thing ever.

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  39. Considering Apple's lack of success with... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Considering Apple's lack of success with handling alarms, new years, and DST switches, would anyone really want a watch from Apple?

    1. Re:Considering Apple's lack of success with... by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Considering Apple's lack of success with handling alarms, new years, and DST switches, would anyone really want a watch from Apple?

      The alternate point of view would be: now that Apple has been bitten by those bugs and (one hopes) fixed them, that means Apple can re-use the now-correct code in its new products rather than having to write (and then debug) new code.

      It's sort of like getting measles; if you came down with it once, you won't get it again because you're inoculated. Assuming Apple is smart enough to make its date/time algorithms reusable, of course.

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    2. Re:Considering Apple's lack of success with... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

      One would hope that Apple fixes them, but one seems to appear at least once every year.

  40. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by SternisheFan · · Score: 0
    Off-topic: A few recent posts of mine were anti George Bush jr., I instantly had a new 'foe' here. Then a junk email appeared in my Hotmail account containing a pic of a headstone with strange symbols on it (I guess I'm supposed to be 'hexed' since I looked at it). My new foe is "RalphWigum" (and he seems so darned cute on 'The Simpsons'!). There are some weird people using this site, like for example a couple commentors above.

    On-topic: I've tried using regular watches in my life, the faces always got scratched up after awhile, the pins that hold the straps would break and some time later I'd notice my watch is gone. I've gotten away from watches and gotten used to having this phone always on my person, I won't be needing or using this new 'fashion tech'

  41. i prefer one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  42. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by kqs · · Score: 1

    Funny you should mention rats. This is like the experiment where the rats had to choose between food and cocaine. Any rational person would just ignore this story, but many iHaters will keep pressing the "submit" button for their dose of whining and feeling superior.

    So no, you shouldn't care, and (reading these comments) few Apple fans care, but there is a huge pool of people who do care. And who really need to get on with their lives.

    Given Apple's track record, if they do release a watch which binds to a smartphone, it will probably be simple and do what most people want. I can imagine how I might want that to work. But until Apple announces something there is little point having an opinion on the matter.

  43. Now that Apple was forced to license... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Now that Apple was forced to license the Swiss Railway clock design (a la iOS 6), maybe their license extends to future products like iWatches?

  44. Form Factors by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

    The smart phone has retreated from shrinking for good reason - all things, no matter how advanced, reach a limit to their usefulness as input and display devices.

    Ideally, a watch-like "smart phone" would be better as a peripheral, ala the Pebble, acting with a smart phone for additional freedom (and to replace an actual watch with something more flexible in function).

    I can see a future where people throw their hand up to the side of their face with a "phone handset" gesture, speaking into their pinky, listening into their thumb, with a watch-style interface on their wrist to handle it (and some implants in the hand), while a smart phone stays in your pocket or on your belt, ready for more "heavy duty" functions.

    This is the same reason why optical discs have not shrunk... and why sellable media will probably remain no smaller than a typical DS cart or SD card. Too small, and it's easy to lose, even if it handles the volume of data it needs to carry out its function.

  45. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Ignacio · · Score: 1

    Because Apple can do it better</facetious>.

  46. iButtplug by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

    Apple's efforts come as companies have introduced various kinds of wearable gadgets, mainly designed to measure physical activity.

    I'm guessing most of them are cock rings.

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  47. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And during later years Apple will be remembered being the one which "invented" this thing.

  48. This reminds me of Microsoft's SPOT Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in 2004 Microsoft launched its Smart Personal Object Technology (SPOT). The technology wasn't just limited to watches, it also found itself on coffee makers and was promoted as a great solution for a raft of other consumer items.

    I own a couple of SPOT watches...they gave me 24x7 access to stock prices, news headlines, weather and a large selection of other news items that I could customize through the SPOT configuration page (now long gone...)

    Good old SPOT was laid to rest just over a year ago - rendering my SPOT watches new additions to my Microsoft Abandonware shelf...joining the Office Keyboard, my two Zune players, the fingerprint scanner / mouse combo, WebTV Settop box, my copy of Visual Basic for DOS and Windows 3.1 for Pen and countless others.

    I think that SPOT failed for three reasons:

    1) Outrageous annual subscription fee ($55 per year or $99 'Lifetime').
    2) Very limited transmission range for the Direct Band transmission system limited the tool's use to just a handful of Canadian cities.
    3) Microsoft gave up. (Just like they have with everything else in that abaondonware bin...)

    Now it is up to Apple to (once again) show us (and Bill and Steve) how it is done right!

  49. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by DJRumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi, you must be new here. Slashdot is a moderated site, meaning enough people were interested to mod the initial story up so that it made it as a published story. That also means your somewhat slanted view of what is news and what isn't doesn't mesh completely with all the folks on this site. Welcome to the internet. Not everyone will agree with you, or want the same stories as you would like to see.

    I might suggest in the future you simply ignore the post, or mod it down prior to it being published rather than whining about it after the fact, clicking on the link, and posting a response to the story, which in turn makes the post look more valuable in 'clicks' as well as measured by activity.

    You might want to think that through for a moment ;)

  50. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by iamhassi · · Score: 0

    Because everything Apple does is super important! Even a rumor about them possibly thinking about making a gadget that 100 other companies are also working on is important enough to get an immediate front page on Slashdot.

    You're right. The touchscreen phones everyone now has? Were not popular until the iPhone, then every manufacture started making touchscreen phones and completely changed cellphones and communication. Tablets sucked (windows xp tablet edition yuck!) until the iPad. So yeah, apple making a watch is super important.

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  51. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi, you must be new here.

    Don't kid yourself. They were only going for a first post and couldn't think of anything to say that was related to the story.

  52. Microsoft's SPOT Wach by RonMcMahon · · Score: 2

    When Microsoft killed off the 4-year-old SPOT watch in 2008 they should have shown some true leadership and open sourced the entire platform.

  53. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...because???

    Samsung will soon come out with one and you will need to tell the Fanboys why Apple is behind in the important Smart Watch market.

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  54. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Azure+Flash · · Score: 1

    Maybe he values rat's asses more than we do, though. You never know...

  55. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1, Redundant

    What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

  56. Newest Apple Product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get your new iWatch as in "I watch you sleep at night" !

  57. I have a watch-like device already by swschrad · · Score: 1

    it's the newfangled geezer pocket watch, and Siri tells me it also does fancy useful stuff when I ask it things. win-win, Apple's had it out for years now.

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  58. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

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  59. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know- WHAaaaaaa!

  60. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

    Given Apple's record, if they release a watch, it will do what Apple wants.

  61. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Most of us will remember them being the first to make one people actually wanted. This where, instead of crying about it, you take notes.

    Sincerely,
        Not an Apple Fan

  62. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Pseudonym+Authority · · Score: 1

    Wait, this is Slashdot? I thought I had accidentally went to macrumors!

    Which makes me question how unsubstantiated speculations about Apple's (maybe) new (maybe) luxury (maybe) watch is `news for nerds' or `stuff that matters'.

  63. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The GP post serves two useful purposes. The first is, for anyone who modded up the initial story, to point out that it's not necessarily worth modding up a story just because it's Apple. The second is, for anyone reading the comments, to remind them that the story has been modded up just because it's Apple, and so is actually less significant than its presence on the front page of Slashdot would otherwise imply.

  64. I thought .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought CrApple was working on the smelly iToilet ?

  65. Motorola Activ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks, but ill keep my Moto Activ. Phone and text notification, weather, wireless music, fitness features and gps.

  66. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi, you must be new here. Slashdot is a moderated site, meaning enough people were interested to mod the initial story up so that it made it as a published story. That also means your somewhat slanted view of what is news and what isn't doesn't mesh completely with all the folks on this site. Welcome to the internet. Not everyone will agree with you, or want the same stories as you would like to see.

    I might suggest in the future you simply ignore the post, or mod it down prior to it being published rather than whining about it after the fact, clicking on the link, and posting a response to the story, which in turn makes the post look more valuable in 'clicks' as well as measured by activity.

    You might want to think that through for a moment ;)

    I hope your colon smells really good if youre going to spend that much time with your head stuck up it.

    Trust me, no one needs or wants your smug sense of education on how things work. We will all get along fine without someone always feeling the need to chime in and set us all straight with uninsightful and pretentious drivel.

  67. I'd think they'd pursue and advanced CST-01 by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2

    The other sites talk about Apple also pursuing a device with curved glass. I have to wonder if they've taken a page from the CST-01 design validation unit on KickStarter. Could they be pursuing an iDevice in the wrist bracer form factor? I'm looking at the pictures and I'm telling myself that Apple has got to be exploring some sort of electronic device in this form. If so, it is going to be significantly more complex than a watch.

  68. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oh the irony....

  69. Wonder how they are going get around prior art... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...on this one. Going back to 1946.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dt2wrr.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Tracy

  70. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by kqs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So? When Microsoft released the Surface Pro, it did what Microsoft wanted (as limited by technology and budget; I'm sure Microsoft wanted 10 hours of battery life but didn't get it). Same for Samsung, Motorola, etc.

    It seems like you are implying that "Apple releases features that Apple wants, not that consumers want." If you're not saying this, then please clarify. If you are saying this, then I think the evidence proves you wrong.

    Long Long Ago, there were many MP3 players which all did what their manufactures wanted (and what their manufacturers thought consumers wanted). They sold okay, but then Apple released an MP3 player with fewer features but a different interface and musical ecosystem. Tech folks scoffed (No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.) but after a few iterations, consumers found that they loved Apple's features more than other players' features. You can clearly divide the MP3 market into "before Apple" and "after Apple" portions with a huge feature shift for all successful players at the break. Exact same thing happened with smart phones. Exact same thing happened with tablets. Given Apple's record, there is a good chance this could happen with a theoretical iWatch.

    Look, I've got lots of issues with Apple, but arguing that they do not give users what they want is difficult. If you make an argument that contradicts all available data, you must first give an explanation which doesn't involve every consumer except you being a brainless zombie (but only for exactly one product), a nefarious deception performed years ago by forward-thinking Kenyan grandparents, perfect collusion between all climatologists, or some other unlikely conspiracy theory.

  71. Re:Wonder how they are going get around prior art. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems LG beat them to it as well; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEMsW4FE54Y

  72. Watch out for the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    machete carrying muggers!

  73. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    My take on the summary is - Apple has a dream gadget in mind, they're talking to Foxconn, and Foxconn is doing the engineering. I'm scratching my head for a second here. Does Apple not do it's own engineering anymore? Have they outsourced EVERYTHING except marketing? WTF?

    Time to RTFA - baaahhhh - WSJ is doing funky crap with cross site scripting now? Need to find another source - - -

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/10/wsj-apple-testing-iwatch-foxconn/

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/10/wsj-apple-testing-iwatch-foxconn/
    "If Apple does ever release a wearable device, it is said that it’ll be integrated with the iPhone, probably connecting with the device via Bluetooth and allowing the two to have a symbiotic relationship."

    So, they're talking about a bluetooth watch that connects to the iPhone? Doesn't sound very impressive to me. The "technology" seems to center on a curved glass surface for the thing, and more powerful batteries? Phhtt - we're still years away from a Dick Tracy communicator watch thingy.

    The takeaway seems to be that they'll be designed and engineered by Chinese, rather than Americans. Sad - we've gutted our schools, and we no longer educate the people necessary to do this type of work.

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  74. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 0

    Do you also look at your grandmothers, with the same speculation on your mind? Thirty years ago, Shrillary was more repulsive then my grandmothers. I can't imagine that the woman was ever NOT repulsive!

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  75. Will it be kept safe from being copied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by having rounded corners?

  76. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by tooyoung · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And plenty of people on /. will remind us frequently that they didn't invent it, but somehow leave out the detail that all of the existing devices shifted to the Apple form factor and user interface shortly after the Apple release.

  77. Dick Tracy's 2-Way Wrist TV by Trip6 · · Score: 1

    Calling Dick Tracy! Pruneface has escaped!

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  78. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing you said is noteworthy. Why would he take notes?

  79. The Table by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    It is rude to look at your phone while meeting with someone

    That's why you set your phone on the table beforehand, so you can just glance at it.

    People notice you looking at watches, much harder to hide that action.

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  80. Totally agree by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I stopped wearing a watch years ago because I could pull my phone (not even a smart one) out of my pocket to see what time it was.

    Same here - watches always irritated my skin (even hypoallergenic ones), and once I carried a phone always that just made more sense to tell time with. A watch was excess that you had to be careful not to damage.

    I can see watches making a retro comeback of some kind, but I can't see any electronic watch being a mass-market item in the way they used to be.

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  81. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Thanks for a bunch of revisionist history.

    The Nokia Ericsson was a huge seller several years before the iPhone was released and won many "best technological device" awards the year it was released. Popular Mechanics called it one of the most important advances in technology for the time. Not a big seller by today's standards, but cell phone usage in general was proportionally smaller.

    LG had the Prada, Samsung had the F700. Palm of course had several offerings. 15 years ago, there weren't exactly a million different manufacturers like there are today.

  82. The 1970s called by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Well, maybe they will come up with something better than a LED watch.

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    1. Re:The 1970s called by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      "We added an 'O'"

  83. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Yes but Apple`s will be rectangular with rounded corners.

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  84. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

    I'm not so sure. The Apple brand is getting spread pretty darn thin already. It no longer feels special to own Apple gear and their brand was mostly what it's all about for them. The one thing they do really well is marketing though, so maybe they'll be able to milk it for a few more product cycles.

  85. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, genius. This is when you watch Apple turn a pitiful product that's been around for years, and nobody cares about, into a must-have item.

  86. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by node+3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Foxconn and Hon Hai are manufacturers (like the summary says). Apple (and other tech companies) work with them the same way you'd work with, say, a metal foundry somewhere to have them manufacture some parts you've designed. The main reason for this is you can't just invent something (especially technology), and just ask people to build it for you, they need to be able to.

    So, this wrist-contoured glass. It sounds like Foxconn has been working on a new process for this, and have been looking for a way to get customers to pay them to build stuff for them using it. In this case, working with Apple to work it into a new watch.

    The engineering for the watch itself will be all Apple. The engineering behind how to manufacture it will be a collaboration between Apple and Foxconn (or whoever), the same way Apple (and everyone else) has always done it. This is similar to how the processes for manufacturing the unibody aluminum enclosures and the iPhone 5 parts matching system was developed.

    What you're thinking is a private label system, with some companies engage in (not Apple), where you might see the exact same product that gets labeled with different brands from different companies, similar to how some store brands (especially food and household supplies) are done.

  87. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to mention that dozens of these are already on the market, some specific to the Android world, some rather generic.

    And notice how no one uses them or even remembers them until Apple makes one.

    It's not, like you seem to think, that Apple is some also-ran that is late to the party, but somehow gets all the credit. It's that Apple tends to put in the inordinate effort required to take a product that is simply neat tech and make it great.

    That's why people get excited.

    "Sony's making a watch that connects to your phone? That's cool. I probably won't get one (or even see on in person, ever), but it's cool."

    "Apple's making one? I can hardly wait to see what they come up with!"

    Do you get excited when MS comes up with a new online service? Probably not. What about Google? Yeah, me too. Excitement with Apple and hardware works much the same way.

  88. Already have one don't they? by fredgiblet · · Score: 1

    So an iPod Nano with a wrist-strap?

  89. Bigger than a nomad by tepples · · Score: 0

    The Nomad plays Sega Genesis cartridges, the vast majority of which are 4 MB or smaller. The sixth-generation iPod nano, the one that snaps into wristbands to become a watch, was available in 8000 MB and 16000 MB capacities.

    1. Re:Bigger than a nomad by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Uh...I was referring to CmdrTaco's classic "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame." quote.

      See, if it could use wireless headphones, it'd be halfway there!

    2. Re:Bigger than a nomad by tepples · · Score: 1

      The original iPod didn't have less space than a Sega Nomad either.

  90. Dick Tracy... by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

    ...here we come!

    (Depending on features, of course. Can't access the FA.)

  91. Nike Fuel Bands in Apple Stores by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 1

    While walking through the Old Orchard Apple Store recently I was interested to see the variety of non-Apple products on display, which included things like Philips remote-controlled LED mood lighting systems, and the Nike Fuel Bands.

    Because of the presence of the Fuel products, as well as Apple's previous integration of Nike stuff in their iPods, I am slightly more inclined to believe in the idea of an Apple "wrist" device than most of the Apple rumors that I hear.

    G.

  92. who wants this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your life requires you to wear a watch,

    you're living it wrong.

  93. I'm Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FIRST smartwatch.

    I'm Watch

  94. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by mug+funky · · Score: 1

    nothing to take notes for still. we should have been taking notes with the original iPod, but now Apple can very safely trade on their name and nothing more.

    so taking notes will only be useful if you're already Apple.

  95. Already did it years ago by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

    Apple already had a watch out years ago, during the "Think different[sic]" era. I have one. It's much like an ordinary watch, but it goes backwards.

    The annoying thing is that it's no longer compatible with iOS 6, or in fact anything. Battery life is good though.

    1. Re:Already did it years ago by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      > Battery life is good though.

      Sounds nothing like an Apple product then. Probably a fake.

  96. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by icebike · · Score: 1

    I'm not so sure. The Apple brand is getting spread pretty darn thin already. It no longer feels special to own Apple gear and their brand was mostly what it's all about for them. The one thing they do really well is marketing though, so maybe they'll be able to milk it for a few more product cycles.

    Well, my tongue was lodged firmly in my cheek.....
    So I guess we agree for the most part.

    Still when they announce something like this the fanbois will line up a midnight,
    Apple has been reselling to its customers for years, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

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  97. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot tends to be moderated by pompous idiots who believe their views are correct to the exclusion of all others. Thanks for demonstrating.

  98. If this is true, I will sell my stake in AAPL by melted · · Score: 1

    If this is true, I will sell my stake in AAPL and never buy their shares again. This would indicate Tim Cook's lack of vision and focus, and his inability to listen. If true, that is, which I bet it isn't.

    1. Re:If this is true, I will sell my stake in AAPL by Trip6 · · Score: 1

      You should anyway. AAPL is toast.

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    2. Re:If this is true, I will sell my stake in AAPL by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      It's a little late to get out now. It might be fine to hold at this point.

  99. Why Wearing a Watch is a Good Move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you do cooking, have to be on time for some appointment, and just generally need to keep track of time, a watch beats any other device. Specifically, an analog watch with a diver's style bezel, is key for cooking (lets you time various things along with a timer) and if you like to eat you better know how to cook.

    My watch lets me keep track of time at night (I wear it to bed) with a luminous dial/hands; time meetings, keep me on time for numerous appointments, track my time on various tasks, and is to my mind essential for modern day living where keeping track of time is essential. A phone is just that, a phone, handy for making calls, inferior to a specialist device like a watch. No I don't pay a lot of money for my watches, but a good diving style watch, around $80 to $180; from Casio to Wenger to Seiko, will do you fine, and keep you on task far better than a phone.

  100. Hairy wrist? Leather band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are of the hairy persuasion, just wear a leather band or fabric band watch. Leather bands look cool, are nice and fashionable, wear easy on the wrist, and have lots of utility.

    A good watch is a function in great design. The classic Roman Numeral watches hark back to the Victorian era, and the Arabic numeral watches are easy and functional. Seiko mostly just uses dots as positions, but an analog watch is a great tool.

    It can be used as a compass, in a pinch. It allows you to visualize time, how many minutes before a certain time, how many minutes after an event; things like that. And the watch FACE is critical to the enjoyment and utility you get. No digital read out can match the craftsmanship of the designers at Victorinox, Wenger, Seiko, and even Casio. All of which make fine watches at many price points.

    Put it this way, for centuries people have wanted to know, as accurately as possible, what time it was, as quickly as possible. It is now available to you for often, less than $20 or so, to know that, with a convenient wristwatch.

    A leather band watch, try it, will make wearing a watch far more pleasurable (than a steel band watch).

    1. Re:Hairy wrist? Leather band by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If you are of the hairy persuasion, just wear a leather band or fabric band watch. Leather bands look cool, are nice and fashionable, wear easy on the wrist, and have lots of utility.

      I forgot to mention that I am also of the sweaty persuasion.

      Just accept that some are not meant to wear wrist watches, and move on.

      You really don't think that someone capable of constructing a slashdot comment is capable of trying different styles of watch band? Hurr durr I didn't know watch bands could be made of something other than metal?

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    2. Re:Hairy wrist? Leather band by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      Drinkypoo is actually a Sasquatch. The hair is so thick and long that it completely buries and obscures the watch dial. The watches also tend to get broken in Sasquatch rage fits.

  101. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

    Rats ass $0
    Apple watch $?
    Watching Apple priceless.

  102. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by andydread · · Score: 1

    Yes by taking somebody else's idea and modifying it and putting thier logo and tradmark on it then selling for 4 times the price while claiming they invented the paradigm and sueing world + dog out of the market.... Innovation.

  103. Re:summary incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't Google already have multiple patents on that already?

    Posted anonymously for obvious tracking reasons

  104. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dick Tracy had one.
    This is an Apple product, so every Dick Head will have one now.

  105. Old School by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Useless unless it looks like Dick Tracy's watch.

  106. already a patent on that by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Dick Tracy already has the patent on that, goddamnit!

  107. Heck with that! by zodwallopp · · Score: 1

    Give me the iGauntlet or iPowerGlove, let's make a statement that I'm wearing some Apple tech.

  108. iwear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dick tracy

  109. I'm not a luddite but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm working as a programmer. I'm using technology all day long and my life is made of 0's and 1's. I own a smartphone. And very often I just "turn it to silent mode", no vibration and leave it in my car (hidden) or in the corridor.

    There's one time at which I need to disconnect from this "always on" life of 0's and 1's. A smartphone still allows to do that. A watch it's not so convenient.

    Additionally I like 100% mechanical watches that can sustain an EMP blast and that do look good (and it's not necessarily expensive: the japanese are making very fine mechanical watches with quality in-house movemement that do look gorgeous at very reasonable prices ; )

    What about the battery on these new watches btw? Is this something that's going to be soldered to the watch, making the watch yet another throwaway consumerist item? What about the OS / iOS? Is this something, like my old iPhone 3, that at one point shall be just as good as garbage because I can't install the latest iOS on it and hence can't install most of the newer apps?

  110. don't know about you... by Chirs · · Score: 1

    but my devices turn off the screen after a few minutes to save battery life

    1. Re:don't know about you... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      but my devices turn off the screen after a few minutes to save battery life

      Should have bought an iOS device then, which has good enough battery life you can afford to leave the screen on for an hour.

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  111. I paid $30 for a Casio by Chirs · · Score: 1

    It lasted 7 years on the original battery.

    Nowadays I don't wear a watch since I'm in front of a computer all day for work, and when I'm out I generally have my phone.

  112. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

    No, genius. This is when you watch Apple turn a pitiful product that's been around for years, and nobody cares about, into a must-have item.

    Once again proving the old saying "there is a sucker born every minute".

  113. Why do you think it's a watch? by jhhl · · Score: 1

    Just because it's a piece of curved glass on your wrist, it might not be a watch. I'm thinking of the ring-like projectors in Zardoz. Siri + projected virtual touch interface means lightweight ubiquitous cloud access.

    Apple should skip "TV" monitors anyway and go straight to projection.

    Also "Dick Tracy" referrers: Detective Tracy was just the end user, the inventor was Diet Smith. http://dicktracy.wikia.com/wiki/Diet_Smith

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  114. Will it sport and automatic movement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otherwise, I'm not insterested in this so called watch.

  115. The solution is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Siri and VoiceOver for input and output. Seems less than ideal, but presumable Apple has been working on improving both, so they might be nearly ready to go for a nano-ish device.

  116. How it will be used: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lifts wrist to face and says, "Siri, what time is it?"

  117. Jeesh, that's ugly-thick Re:Sony makes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    8 mm thick? Might as well wear a brick and say it's getting heavy every hour.

  118. Re:And I should give a rat's ass... by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    It's that Apple tends to put in the inordinate effort required to take a product that is simply neat tech and make it great.

    Without Jobs? We'll see.