The closest I have found is gvim. It's interface is not that intitive, but it has the power of vi, mouse, and block select.
nedit is nice for the simple search replace across multiple files. It's interface is ugly motif, and it's keyboard shortcuts are picky on order and timing. I would be very happy to see nedit rewritten for gtk2. Even nicer would be a gtk2 version of ultraedit for linux under gpl.
That isn't a problem in 2.2 or 2.4. If you are using metacity just grab the want with your cursor and then hotkey to another desktop. The window will follow you.
I use sawfish, and have no problem with using it with Gnome 2.2 or 2.4. Save settings should work, but you should also be able to use the session settings capplet to set it to restart in the session. I do maintain my own sawfish rpm to get proper edge flipping and workspace layout. Metacity has come farther. He is finally including the patch to disable the animation. You can get a third party program to remember window settings decently. But as you mentioned it is missing edge flipping and I haven't seen a patch to include it.
You can reply the the main menu icon with a gconf setting. It has been complained that it should be a part of the the icon theme.
Windows isn't good working with itself. Windows file sharing is the the first or second most common tech support call I have gotten with working for myself. I have spent hours fighting with it with users to make it work. Most of the time it can be made to work after plenty of hair pulling, and sometimes it just refuses to work for no obvious reason.
I wasn't saying necessarily how much it crashed at the time, but that I found 2-3 different bugs that caused it to crash within 20 minutes of using it. The most annoying was resizing smart bookmarks boxes. About half the time it would crash.
The complete situtation when it comes to compilers is there are three. gcc 3.3, gcc 3.2, and gcc 2.96.
3.3 is gcc, 3.2 is gcc32, 2.96 is compat-gcc.
Mozilla, the kernel, and other code have issues with 3.3. I personally ran into an issue with Mozilla 1.4 complaining about a bug that mangled long long when using -pedantic. I wanted to compile with gcc 3.2, but found the c++ part was missing. I didn't want to go back to 2.96 so I used the --disable-pedantic option.
I agree with you, Epiphany sucks. But after investigating the issue closely Red Hat was between a rock and a hard place. On one side they wanted to include Mozilla 1.4 gtk2 and on the other they might have wanted to include Galeon. Galeon 1.3.5 is far from stable. In a matter of 20 minutes I found 2-3 different ways to crash it. They couldn't include Galeon 1.2.11, because it depends on Mozilla 1.4 gtk1. So that left them with Epiphany. Another thing that was part of their motivation is the Gnome project is dumping Galeon in favor of Epiphany.
Personally I have already recompiled Mozilla 1.4 to disable gtk2 and compiled my own Galeon 1.2.11. If you are interested reply with a request.
Ugh, the new look seems pretty ugly. I am really not fond of the huge square buttons. Though it is hard to tell the rest without a decent gtk2 theme. I am fond of Crux myself. I use it for gtk1 and gtk2.
I am actually pretty happy with the current layout of everything. The thing I would like to see is to fix all the little annoying bugs, especially the ones that cause it to hang. They have started on them with 1.4.3, like the messages still show in the preview window after deletion till you expunge it or click on a different message.
The number one reason is being able to play multiple wave files at once without pieces of crap like arts or esd. Hopefully there are some onboard sound cards these days that fix this issue.
The second is I have found that it is normally tougher to get a working linux driver for my onboard sound card. When I first got my current motherboard the driver was in the kernel but failed to work. It required hunting for a patch from Alan Cox.
Currently I have a SB Live! MP3+ in both my computers, and I am happy with them.
It is the reinitalization sequence used by XFree86 in the mouse code for imps/2. If you want to write it in a real language, use C. You could probably even do some cut and paste from the XFree86 code. Or if you Really wanted to do it right you would modify the XFree86 code to see the problem and reinitalize the mouse. There is already code to detect erratic mouse movement and reset the mouse. It just needs to be turned on all the time.
There is a workaround using XFree86 4.3 and a script I created. When combined the mouse fixes itself when switching machines for a second time. First you have to change the mouse type to auto from imps/2. Another workaround is to use ps/2 as the type, but then you lose your wheel. Then make this file, and make it excutable and setuid.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict; use warnings;
use Time::HiRes qw(sleep);
open(OUT,">/dev/psaux"); print OUT "\xF5"; sleep 0.5; print OUT "\xF3\xC8\xF3\x64\xF3\x50\xF2"; sleep 0.5; print OUT "\xF4"; close OUT;
The above requires the Time:HiRes perl module and perl-setuid installed. You can likely remove the Time:HiRes requirement and sleeps, but not sure . Then you bind the script to the scroll lock key. I do this via sawfish, my window manager. But there are probably a dozen different ways to bind it. If you are switching between two Linux boxes both need the script and XFree86. I currently am switching between RedHat 8.0(4.2) and RedHat 8.1 beta3(4.3, phoebe3). The beta works right and the non beta doesn't. 4.2 does hae auto detection, but when I tried it and someone else tried it it said in the logs it couldn't detect the type.
"How come we can get over 200 completely unique elements..."
Where do people get this crap? I have recently run into this belief with some coworkers. They also seemed to believe there were over 200 elements. There are around 112-118 elements. After around 92 they are man made. Somewhere around 110 they are only last few a split second and are only seen indirectly by their decay. Do yourself a favor and look at a recent periodic chart, or even just do a google search.
While I agree with your general point I can definitely tell the difference between my father's dual P3 650 with 1gb of memory and my Athlon XP 1700+ with 768mb. The faster being my Athlon XP. It isn't a huge difference, but a general snappiness feel.
While what you say about GConf reassures me about it in some ways. It is still a central repostiory of keys and values. That alone reminds me way too much of the registery. Even with comments it is still a pain. Another serious problem is when many developers say Oh, I think 1% of users will use this option so you will have to set it in GConf instead of the application. I think that is really wrong. Especially since most of the time what they think is 1% is really like 25%.
Of course GConf isn't nearly as horrible as the new menu system which is just god awful.
Yeah, I had trouble finding the source too. Then I went to #evolution on irc.gnome.org and was pointed to the Gnome Evolution directory. You will also want to get gal 0.21, gtkhtml 1.1.6, soup 0.7.4, etc.
As mentioned below there is a "Hide Deleted Messages" option. Evolution annoyed me to no end when I first started using it till I found that option. Mozilla Mail does the same delete purge thing it just always hides the deleted messages. Where this is still annoying is when you ssh into the server and use mutt/pine to check your mail and see all the deleted messages.
Evolution 1.1.90 is already in rawhide, so Evolution 1.2 will likely be in 8.1, but that is probably still many months away. They may even be using Evolution 1.4(gtk2) by then since they switched to Gnome2 with RedHat 8.0.
Personally I had already installed gal 0.21, gtkhtml 1.1.5, and Evolution 1.1.90(Release Candidate) from rawhide. Then when I found 1.2 was out on Slashdot I downloaded gtkhtml 1.1.6 and Evolution 1.2.0 tarballs from the Gnome FTP Server. Then I used the rawhide src rpms, changed the version number, changed the version of Mozilla it was looking for since I am using Mozilla 1.2b(Evolution uses Mozilla's nss and nspr for SSL support), and rebuilt the package.
You main problem is likely red-carpet. Red-carpet does a poor job at handling dependecies and Ximian does a just as bad job at making rpms. Personally I either use RedHat's Rawhide rpms for evolution, or like in the case of 1.2, I compile my own rpm based on their rawhide src.rpm.
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The closest I have found is gvim. It's interface is not that intitive, but it has the power of vi, mouse, and block select.
nedit is nice for the simple search replace across multiple files. It's interface is ugly motif, and it's keyboard shortcuts are picky on order and timing. I would be very happy to see nedit rewritten for gtk2. Even nicer would be a gtk2 version of ultraedit for linux under gpl.
I agree with this completely.
That isn't a problem in 2.2 or 2.4. If you are using metacity just grab the want with your cursor and then hotkey to another desktop. The window will follow you.
I use sawfish, and have no problem with using it with Gnome 2.2 or 2.4. Save settings should work, but you should also be able to use the session settings capplet to set it to restart in the session. I do maintain my own sawfish rpm to get proper edge flipping and workspace layout. Metacity has come farther. He is finally including the patch to disable the animation. You can get a third party program to remember window settings decently. But as you mentioned it is missing edge flipping and I haven't seen a patch to include it.
/apps/panel/profiles/default/objects/main_menu/cus tom-icon -t bool true /apps/panel/profiles/default/objects/main_menu/cus tom-icon-file /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
You can reply the the main menu icon with a gconf setting. It has been complained that it should be a part of the the icon theme.
gconftool-2 --set
gconftool-2 --type string --set
killall gnome-panel
I have also tried switching to KDE a few times. I come back after finding it is buggy when you tweak it too much.
Windows isn't good working with itself. Windows file sharing is the the first or second most common tech support call I have gotten with working for myself. I have spent hours fighting with it with users to make it work. Most of the time it can be made to work after plenty of hair pulling, and sometimes it just refuses to work for no obvious reason.
Not sure exactly if it made a difference, but I am not running test2 with sched G6. xmms seems to be run much smoother.
Thank you for mentioning it.
I will give it a try now.
I wasn't saying necessarily how much it crashed at the time, but that I found 2-3 different bugs that caused it to crash within 20 minutes of using it. The most annoying was resizing smart bookmarks boxes. About half the time it would crash.
The complete situtation when it comes to compilers is there are three. gcc 3.3, gcc 3.2, and gcc 2.96.
3.3 is gcc, 3.2 is gcc32, 2.96 is compat-gcc.
Mozilla, the kernel, and other code have issues with 3.3. I personally ran into an issue with Mozilla 1.4 complaining about a bug that mangled long long when using -pedantic. I wanted to compile with gcc 3.2, but found the c++ part was missing. I didn't want to go back to 2.96 so I used the --disable-pedantic option.
I agree with you, Epiphany sucks. But after investigating the issue closely Red Hat was between a rock and a hard place. On one side they wanted to include Mozilla 1.4 gtk2 and on the other they might have wanted to include Galeon. Galeon 1.3.5 is far from stable. In a matter of 20 minutes I found 2-3 different ways to crash it. They couldn't include Galeon 1.2.11, because it depends on Mozilla 1.4 gtk1. So that left them with Epiphany. Another thing that was part of their motivation is the Gnome project is dumping Galeon in favor of Epiphany.
Personally I have already recompiled Mozilla 1.4 to disable gtk2 and compiled my own Galeon 1.2.11. If you are interested reply with a request.
I doubt we will see this. They can still make money off up2date for the Red Hat Linux Project.
If they were going to support something I would prefer yum at least be included.
Ugh, the new look seems pretty ugly. I am really not fond of the huge square buttons. Though it is hard to tell the rest without a decent gtk2 theme. I am fond of Crux myself. I use it for gtk1 and gtk2.
I am actually pretty happy with the current layout of everything. The thing I would like to see is to fix all the little annoying bugs, especially the ones that cause it to hang. They have started on them with 1.4.3, like the messages still show in the preview window after deletion till you expunge it or click on a different message.
The number one reason is being able to play multiple wave files at once without pieces of crap like arts or esd. Hopefully there are some onboard sound cards these days that fix this issue.
The second is I have found that it is normally tougher to get a working linux driver for my onboard sound card. When I first got my current motherboard the driver was in the kernel but failed to work. It required hunting for a patch from Alan Cox.
Currently I have a SB Live! MP3+ in both my computers, and I am happy with them.
It is the reinitalization sequence used by XFree86 in the mouse code for imps/2. If you want to write it in a real language, use C. You could probably even do some cut and paste from the XFree86 code. Or if you Really wanted to do it right you would modify the XFree86 code to see the problem and reinitalize the mouse. There is already code to detect erratic mouse movement and reset the mouse. It just needs to be turned on all the time.
There is a workaround using XFree86 4.3 and a script I created. When combined the mouse fixes itself when switching machines for a second time. First you have to change the mouse type to auto from imps/2. Another workaround is to use ps/2 as the type, but then you lose your wheel. Then make this file, and make it excutable and setuid.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Time::HiRes qw(sleep);
open(OUT,">/dev/psaux");
print OUT "\xF5";
sleep 0.5;
print OUT "\xF3\xC8\xF3\x64\xF3\x50\xF2";
sleep 0.5;
print OUT "\xF4";
close OUT;
The above requires the Time:HiRes perl module and perl-setuid installed. You can likely remove the Time:HiRes requirement and sleeps, but not sure . Then you bind the script to the scroll lock key. I do this via sawfish, my window manager. But there are probably a dozen different ways to bind it. If you are switching between two Linux boxes both need the script and XFree86. I currently am switching between RedHat 8.0(4.2) and RedHat 8.1 beta3(4.3, phoebe3). The beta works right and the non beta doesn't. 4.2 does hae auto detection, but when I tried it and someone else tried it it said in the logs it couldn't detect the type.
Have any exact urls? I was unable to find a page that gave me a popup.
"How come we can get over 200 completely unique elements..."
Where do people get this crap? I have recently run into this belief with some coworkers. They also seemed to believe there were over 200 elements. There are around 112-118 elements. After around 92 they are man made. Somewhere around 110 they are only last few a split second and are only seen indirectly by their decay. Do yourself a favor and look at a recent periodic chart, or even just do a google search.
While I agree with your general point I can definitely tell the difference between my father's dual P3 650 with 1gb of memory and my Athlon XP 1700+ with 768mb. The faster being my Athlon XP. It isn't a huge difference, but a general snappiness feel.
While what you say about GConf reassures me about it in some ways. It is still a central repostiory of keys and values. That alone reminds me way too much of the registery. Even with comments it is still a pain. Another serious problem is when many developers say Oh, I think 1% of users will use this option so you will have to set it in GConf instead of the application. I think that is really wrong. Especially since most of the time what they think is 1% is really like 25%.
Of course GConf isn't nearly as horrible as the new menu system which is just god awful.
Oh yeah, forgot to say, Havoc Pengington is EVIL!
Wow, this is exactly what I have been thinking and telling people for months. Thank you for this very elegant explanation :) You rock!
Yeah, I had trouble finding the source too. Then I went to #evolution on irc.gnome.org and was pointed to the Gnome Evolution directory. You will also want to get gal 0.21, gtkhtml 1.1.6, soup 0.7.4, etc.
As mentioned below there is a "Hide Deleted Messages" option. Evolution annoyed me to no end when I first started using it till I found that option. Mozilla Mail does the same delete purge thing it just always hides the deleted messages. Where this is still annoying is when you ssh into the server and use mutt/pine to check your mail and see all the deleted messages.
Evolution 1.1.90 is already in rawhide, so Evolution 1.2 will likely be in 8.1, but that is probably still many months away. They may even be using Evolution 1.4(gtk2) by then since they switched to Gnome2 with RedHat 8.0.
Personally I had already installed gal 0.21, gtkhtml 1.1.5, and Evolution 1.1.90(Release Candidate) from rawhide. Then when I found 1.2 was out on Slashdot I downloaded gtkhtml 1.1.6 and Evolution 1.2.0 tarballs from the Gnome FTP Server. Then I used the rawhide src rpms, changed the version number, changed the version of Mozilla it was looking for since I am using Mozilla 1.2b(Evolution uses Mozilla's nss and nspr for SSL support), and rebuilt the package.
I really don't know, but last I heard they had given up on news support. If you want real news support use Pan. Pan has all the nice features.
Pan Homepage
You main problem is likely red-carpet. Red-carpet does a poor job at handling dependecies and Ximian does a just as bad job at making rpms. Personally I either use RedHat's Rawhide rpms for evolution, or like in the case of 1.2, I compile my own rpm based on their rawhide src.rpm.